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  2. Im with you today Hibari...very hard day...I am so sorry you are struggling so!! My heart is with you...wish I could give you a big hug...consider this one from afar!! 💜
  3. Dec 10 2am - took 400 mg ibuprofen - fell asleep about 3am 9am - awakened by phone - no cortisol spike but anxiety started to increase 6/10 10am - attempted to meditate but fell asleep 1pm - woke up - anxiety 7/10 - depression 5/10 - weakness/tremor 8/10 - took shower - ate lunch - appetite 1/10 - dizziness 4/10 - palps 2/10 3pm - anxiety 7/10 - depression 5/10 - weakness/tremor 6/10 - dizziness 4/10 4pm - accupuncture appt. - anxiety 3/10 - depression 3/10 - weakness/tremor 5/10 - dizziness 2/10 - appetite 8/10 5pm - grocery shopping - anxiety 6/10 - depression 6/10 - weakness/tremor 8/10 - crying spell 7:30pm - ate dinner - appetite normal - took 2600 mg fish oil - anxiety 4/10 - depression 4/10 - weakness/tremor 5/10 - dizziness 3/10 9pm - diarrhea - headache 2/10 - weakness/tremor 6/10 - anxiety 3/10 - depression 3/10 10pm - took 13.5 mg zoloft liquid + 13.5 mg zoloft pill - anxiety 5/10 - depression 7/10 - weakness/tremor 6/10 - headache 4/10 Question for mods: is it okay to go to full liquid dose tomorrow? Is 2 days on half/half long enough? Thanks!
  4. Andie

    Andie: Tapering off Pristiq

    Yes, the doctors aren’t making the connection. All of them have small snippets of information relevant to their field of interest. I went to see a sleep specialist during that time and even he mentioned to me that they were well aware of the sleep issues that withdrawal from Effexor and Pristiq cause. They can see it on the Sleep study EEG with delay going into REM and then REM rebound toward the morning(mine looked like this). Whenever I hear information like this, I send it to my doctors. I dare not even imagine myself on 200mg of Pristiq. I think I’d spontaneously combust. My psychiatrist did mention someone was sent to him with seratonin syndrome at 200mg that was prescribed by their GP. I only very recently heard of someone taking 400mg!!!
  5. Love the name of the ship Neroli...you will...you are so strong! All that you do with work and all....and reaching out here in spite of your difficult days! You have such a special heart Neroli! I feel blessed to have you on this journey my friend!💜
  6. Hi Carmie..I am so sorry you have been dealing with this!!! I think about you so much! You are so strong and the things that you do inspite of it is incredible!! Blessings to you Carmie! I thought of you when I hauled out my needlepoint!!! You inspired me...to distract!!!! And it has been good.....thank you so very very much!! HUGS!!! 💜
  7. @Hibari Thank you for that Hibari! I hope you are feeling better!! Been thinking about you since checked in with you earlier!💜
  8. @bubbles Thank you SO much bubbles! Hope things are going well for you!!! Take care!! 💜
  9. @Rosetta Thank you Rosetta...I hope so too...just not worrying about all the variance would be nice...if is no difference Ill go back. Sometimes I think brass is right in that if that pharmacy continues to be so off perhaps a call to whoever oversees them would be in order...for me and for others in a similar boat. I dont like doing those kinds of things but it would benefit many and thats important too. I would not have changed but the doctor called them in and he gets upset sometimes if I ask him to undo what he has done...so will see. Dont want to rock that boat...need it to move forward and he is trying hard to be on board. He is not going to be happy and may want to do something....will just have to see. One day at a time. Luv ya! Ill check in on your thread. I talked to my daughter about you and others here...she thinks you are most special!!! And you are! I am feeling sad that I most likely will not get over to see her and Evie tomorrow.....my system is just to revved up and on the brink with this wave. Has been a week and a half since seeing them cause she was working and then she and her husband had time off together and I dont like to intrude on that. So tomorrow was kind of the day. Perhaps tomorrow will be better. I did get out and walk in the sun today...was nice...but later I didnt feel well...like even that was too much today. But I also know the days can quickly change so who knows!! Take care Rosetta. Love and hugs! 💜
  10. ChessieCat

    Andie: Tapering off Pristiq

    That's interesting. I met someone recently who was taking 200mg Pristiq and showing signs of serotonin toxicity. She may have been taking some other drug as well, I can't remember, maybe something for sleep. Watching her agitation and scattered thinking during lunch time reminded me of what I had been like. I wrote down the information of SA and also the name serotonin toxicity for her and told her to speak to the doctor about it.
  11. ChessieCat

    Tattycorum: Introduction

    If you have only just started dividing your Ativan I suggest that you wait a while before changing the dose time for a split dose of Zoloft. Keep it Simple, Slow and Stable The half life of Zoloft is about 26 hours so provided you didn't take a dose later, you should be okay. However, if you do decide that you would prefer to split the dose it is better to move part of the dose by 1 hour each day. I suggest that you keep notes on paper to see how it is affecting you. If you usually take the dose in the morning, taking 1/2 at night time may affect your sleep. If that happened you could either reduce the evening dose and move the balance earlier by an hour each day until the same time as the morning dose or you could move the entire evening dose forward by an hour each day until you are taking it earlier in the day and it doesn't affect your sleep.
  12. Andie

    Andie: Tapering off Pristiq

    This sounds all too familiar to me. I was sweating in the middle of winter, sweating under bright lights and sweating having hot drinks. Just sweating ALL the time. I would carry a hand Fan in my bag and I’d have to pull it out at the most embarrassing times. I was also covered in excema from the constant sweating. I went to Singapore when it was at its worst and that was a very interesting time to say the least! Then my blood pressure and heart rate shot up and I was getting that heart flipping you describe. To me it felt like heart lurching. My GP was concerned (but didn’t make the connection to the Pristiq) and I was then sent to a Cardiologist. It was the cardiologist that then advised that I must try and come off the Pristiq. He said he sees many women around my age (early 30s) on SSRIs and SNRIs presenting to him with similar complaints. Like you Chessie, I was very agitated and I felt fogged out and disconnected. In hindsight I was probably having bouts of confusion too. I never realised any of this until I started coming down. To me that is the thing that upsets me the most- not knowing myself. I was clueless. Totally and utterly clueless about what were and weren’t adverse effects of Pristiq. I feel really very shell shocked.
  13. jen84

    jen84: Effexor withdrawal

    Today is a very rough day. First of all, I called in sick to work, i did manage to get out of bed around 1030, and went to work for noon. I left work at 430, and cried the entire drive home. I've been crying on and off for the past 4 hours. I did keep track of my schedule and emotions today, I can post those if necessary. I emailed my boss tonight and told him what's going on with my anxiety. I dont know why I did that, reaching out for help I suppose. I have made contact with a few counsellors today, and should hopefully have an apt this week sometime. This is crazy, I feel out of control and I'm terrified. I dont know what to do, im trying to rode it out, but it just keeps coming at me. I dont know what to do.
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  15. @PoetJester please stop making drug recommendations.
  16. @PoetJesterDerek you know that you should not be making drug recommendations.
  17. ChessieCat

    Andie: Tapering off Pristiq

    I too was taking 100mg Pristiq and experiencing sweating in the middle of winter. My diastolic blood pressure went up after my dose was increased from 50mg to 100mg and I would experience what I felt as my heart flipping, which I think others call missing a beat. As my dose got lower I also realised that I had been feeling confusion and agitation. I believe this to be mild serotonin toxicity. My doctor did not make the connection between the increased dose and the increase in blood pressure.
  18. The skills I have now are things that I have learned since I joined SA and started tapering. I wish I had learned them many years ago when I was in my teens. This is the link: happy2heal-my-victory-statement And yes, you should feel proud. You may have been worn out after the full first day back yesterday. Remember one day at a time, and if necessary hour by hour. If you start to feel anxiety, I suggest that you don't post about it it here when it starts happening. That can make your anxiety worse because you are thinking about it and living the experience and feelings. Instead, start using the calming techniques and non drug coping methods to settle yourself down. Then later you can post about how you dealt with the episode, as long as writing about it doesn't trigger another attack of anxiety.
  19. Hi all and thank you for your messages on my thread. You're all very inspiring to me. All the suffering we're going through yet you all still go out of your way to help others. Just an update: it seems that my high anxiety has lifted for now. The only thing I've done different is that I've been eating every 3 hours. I also make it a goal to finish my plate within 15 - 20 mins. I've been losing a lot of weight. I've always been skinny and i continue dropping weight which is scary. Even as i eat every 3 hrs, I'm losing weight.... but it seems to "feed" my anxiety. Ever since i started doing this i experienced a 3-day window. Then i had 1 day where i felt fatigued but the anxiety was gone. The next 2 days after were also windows. Not 100%, but it's a big relief. The only troublesome thing I'm experiencing in the past 2 nights is when i lay down to sleep my chest/ ab muscle seems to be super weak. I can't even explain it. It feels extremely uncomfortable to lay down like my rib cage isn't supported and hard to breathe. Yet this morning, i woke up and that feeling was gone! For now, I'm enjoying these windows. I'm monitoring myself and nervous about how I'll do on my next period. The last one was horrible for like 2 weeks. Hopefully, it's a bit more manageable this time around!
  20. DrugSlave

    DrugSlave: Tapering Effexor

    I decided on a 1.7% reduction from 23.1mg to 22.7mg over 5 weeks. Super cautious for now. I felt pretty good today... according to my journal, the best day in almost two months. I worked from home this afternoon but I think I could have gone in. I've been going for walks and doing yoga. Both activities seem to help a little.
  21. Okay, it’s been around a month since I last posted, here’s an update. I want to be more specific than this and clearer but due to brain fog and fatigue this is as best I can make it. First, sleep: Still irregular (I’m now getting anywhere around 3 1/2-8 hrs of sleep each night, mostly around 6-7 hrs, i got the 8 hrs maybe twice), I wake up 2-4 times each night still, falling asleep at bedtime is better (takes an hr. or under), I don’t have any noticeable night symptoms anymore, but if I wake up in middle of the night and stay awake for too long, my body starts trembling and then I’ll get agitated/anxious (this also happens if I can’t fall asleep in an hour at bedtime) Supplements: I added vitamin D3 since my doctor said I have a deficiency. She told me to take 2,000iu. My multivitamin already has 400iu and due to fear of withdrawal worsening, I’m only taking around 500iu vitamin d3 tablet a day. So 900iu in total each day. I’ll increase if my next blood test says I’m still deficient or when sleep becomes a lot better. After SOOOO many experimentations and careful observations of symptoms, this is what I now decided on how to take my supplements Magnesium glycinate 50mg after breakfast, one 4 hrs. later, one 1-1 1/2 hrs. after melatonin, one if wake up and can’t fall asleep, one more if wake up again and can’t fall asleep Melatonin .2-.4mg during or after dinner (around 9-9:30pm), since changing melatonin from .75 to this, i have been sleeping better B12 reduced to 1250mcg taken after breakfast (2500mcg made me dizzy and anxious I think, also taken later in day feels like it makes insomnia worse) Multivitamin and fish oil at breakfast (only one fish oil a day since two feels like makes sleep worse) Vitamin D3 after breakfast If I forget to take b12, I’ll not take it again until next day at right time since I believe taking it too late causes bad sleep and worsened wd symptoms Day symptoms: Mostly Tiredness, heavy brain fog, depression, neuro-emotions (was in a constant rage the last 3-5 days, prob. exacerbated by PMS) Other things I want to mention: If I can sleep less than 6 hrs, I know I did something wrong, unless it’s due to something I can’t help (stress from an event or whatever). If I can sleep at least 7 hrs, I won’t have any wd day symptoms except for mostly brain fog and mild fatigue. If I sleep less than that, I get a bunch of symptoms I don’t think I experienced any waves yet or at least they are really short. Maybe my magnesium and supplements are holding it back. My period hasn’t start yet, it’s been 24 days. It usually comes by now. I want my period to start so bad since I know i’ll feel a lot better and also get away from this pms. I also like periods since it makes me feel cozy and warm. I think i developed seasonal affective disorder. The sun sets so early where I live. I don’t think it has ever set this early this time of year before. It sets at 4:20pm. My depression gets worse after sunset.
  22. Well, last night was the first time in a very long while I've experienced things that felt similar to WD. This whole process of selling and buying has been a total nightmare, unlike any other time I've made this kind of transition. I think anyone would have melted down as I have a number of times over it. Last night, I had hot and cold flashes, and a very strange feeling in my head. Not brain zaps, but more a feeling that my brain wasn't quite right. I did a lot of qi gong, which helped both those symptoms, as well as the emotional bent I was on. At times, anxiety has felt similar to what I felt during WD. People keep reminding me that moving is one of the top 5 stressors. I'm finding it hard going through it alone, even though some friends have been very caring and supportive. It's still just me making all the decisions and paying for everything on my own. I only have 1 month until I move, with a lot to be done in that time. Am doing my best to take one step at a time, but I do feel overwhelmed in some moments. Last week, I bought a couple of audiobooks which I highly recommend. Of course, they may not be appropriate for everyone and probably wouldn't be the right thing at certain places of WD. But for this time of real difficulty, both of them have been extremely helpful: https://www.soundstrue.com/store/guided-meditations-for-difficult-times-1376.html https://www.soundstrue.com/store/self-compassion-step-by-step-3172.html I haven't been on here to read lately. Having enough of my own angst, without becoming overwhelmed by all the suffering on here. But that's totally about caring for myself through this time; I still care about people on here going through WD.
  23. Oh Tania! I have to laugh (not at you). You have a withdrawal sister Over here for sure! I go into what I call total body failure as well. My symptoms are identical and I know hard it is to keep the rest of your life going when you feel like that. Pristiq is basically Effexor’s evil twin. My story is really similar to yours. I’ve been taking Pristiq for 8 plus years and it was only supposed to be a short term thing. My GP prescribed it. The only reason I kept/keep taking it, is to keep the withdrawal at bay so I can function like a normal person. How are your side effects? I was sweating 24/7 and I was having periods of intense tachycardia and high blood pressure. That was when my Doctor said enough was enough and I had to come off. A childhood friend of mine came off Effexor and has been free now for many years using a slow taper and then a switch to Another medication. She’s doing really well. It is possible to come off. Using the 10 percent method described here, I’m down to 12mg of Pristiq from 100mg with only a couple of bumps along the way.
  24. It's reassuring (though sad) to hear someone else has similar symptoms to me. Most people I have spoken to have one or two, maybe three symptoms. But for me... it's pretty much total body failure!
  25. Ok. As long as you have capsules to take. I'm thinking of you. Hopefully the new V will be better.
  26. Hi Chessie and Tania Just in regards to using the mix of Effexor and EnlafAx. That’s a really clever idea. When I was very first trying to come off Pristiq my Psychiatrist tried to switch me to Venlafaxine and use the bead counting method. Because I was so very sensitive, he wanted me to use the TevaPharm Venlafaxine as 1 bead was equal to 1mg. I could then be much more precise in my reductions. I realise the TevaPharm is going to need to be paid out of pocket too and I’m not sure if it’s even available in NZ Just something I remembered and thought I’d share.
  27. Thank you @Songbird. That's what I figured, but I guess I can't blame her for being careful. I dont have kidney or heart issues. She is well meaning but clueless. As long as she keeps writing the scripts (which she seems more than happy to do), she can be as clueless as she wishes. The good thing about a doctor who thinks these drugs are beneficial is that they tend to support long tapers, right? Not that we are on the same page, but more like a confluence of interests. Had my first accupuncture treatment today. 20 minutes in, I felt the anxiety and depression drain from my body and I suddenly felt very hungry. I've not had much appetite at all for several weeks. I also caught myself smiling, which hasn't happened in a while either. Afterward, I went with my brothers to the grocery store. My anxiety heightened during the trip, I definitely felt the weakness in my legs, and I had a short crying spell when I got home, but I'm still glad I did it. I even managed to make a couple of jokes. I don't think I could have managed the trip without the accupuncture. I'm looking forward to next week's appointment to see if I get the same affect. I'm still pretty chill right now. Really liking my ND so far.
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