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Hello. Hope everybody is ok.

I am since year 2000 on 1 pill of risperidone 3mg plus 2mg clonazepam and since year 2014 2mg of flunitrazepam.

I would appreciate someone's help. I am thinking of beggining to taper off of risperidone. Lowerinng the dose from 3mg to 2,95mg combining the dose with pills plus liquid. 2,5 in pills (1 tablet of risperidone 1mg + half a tablet risperiidone 3mgrs). Here I have 2,5mg, then compleete the dose with 9 drops of liquid risperiidone which is 0,45mg. Here I have the 2,95 dose of risperidone. I am thinking of taking it during 4 weeks and then go on lowering to 2,9mg. Do you think I can do it this way? Kind regards- Thanks in advance. Paul.

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Hello. I'm rainbow. Thanks for your support. The medicines I"ve taken are:

February-March 1998 In the night 1 pill of Thiorizadine Clorhidrate plus one pill of Clobazam

Then:

April 1998-December 1999 just in the night Olanzapine (dont remeber dose), 20mgrs paroxetine, 2mgrs Clonazepam

January 2000-December 2011 just in the night 20 mg paroxetine, 2mg Clonazepam, 3mgrs Risperidone.

January 2012-July 2013 200 mgrs Quetiapine, 3mgrs Risperidone,2mg Clonazepam.

August 2013-December 2022 just in the night 3mgrs risperidone, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam

January 2023-Ocrober 2023 1.5 mgrs risperidone morning. 3mgrs risperidones, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam. (night)

Which PD should I first start to taper off with? Many thanks in advance. (Wednesday 4th October 2023)

 

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Hello to everybody. I would like to shar my history in connection with the medications I've been prescribed in my objective opinion, wrongly. I want to know if the administrator allows me to go on sharing my history. I'll be waiting for your answer. Kind regards. Dario

Hello. I'm rainbow. Thanks for your support. The medicines I"ve taken are:

February-March 1998 In the night 1 pill of Thiorizadine Clorhidrate plus one pill of Clobazam

Then:

April 1998-December 1999 just in the night Olanzapine (dont remeber dose), 20mgrs paroxetine, 2mgrs Clonazepam

January 2000-December 2011 just in the night 20 mg paroxetine, 2mg Clonazepam, 3mgrs Risperidone.

January 2012-July 2013 200 mgrs Quetiapine, 3mgrs Risperidone,2mg Clonazepam.

August 2013-December 2022 just in the night 3mgrs risperidone, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam

January 2023-Ocrober 2023 1.5 mgrs risperidone morning. 3mgrs risperidones, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam. (night)

Which PD should I first start to taper off with? Many thanks in advance. (Wednesday 4th October 2023)

 

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Hellow to everybody. I'm on 1 tablet risperidone 3mg and 1 tablet clonazepam 2mg since year 2000. And the third pill since 2014 is flunitrazepam 2mg. I take the 3 pills together at night.

 

According to some articles I've been reading although am not taking antidipressants it seems to me that the first psychiatric drug I should taper off is risperidone. I have to do a very slow taper. In my country this medication comes in tablets of 1, 2 and 3 mg and in liquid form. I'm thinking of lowering the dose from 3mg to 2,95mg. I'm taking the pill of 3mg and it has a slot to divide it into two exact pieces. I am thinking of taking the 2,95mg of risperidone part in tablet and part in liquid to get the exact dose. My plan is half a tablet of 3mg plus a tablet of 1 mg and here I have the 2,5 mgs then the liquid which should be 0,45mgs which is equivalent to 9 drops. My question, (if somebody knows is). Can I take the dose combination of tablet + liquid. I read on this SA website that it is possible for those who want to take risperidone in liquid to take part in tablet and part in liquid and then move to the liquid form if desired. My thought is: The liquid is absorbed faster than the tablet (perhaps not much faster). My question is can I take part tablet and part liquid of risperidone in spite of the difference of speed absortion? Many thanks.

Hello. I'm rainbow. Thanks for your support. The medicines I"ve taken are:

February-March 1998 In the night 1 pill of Thiorizadine Clorhidrate plus one pill of Clobazam

Then:

April 1998-December 1999 just in the night Olanzapine (dont remeber dose), 20mgrs paroxetine, 2mgrs Clonazepam

January 2000-December 2011 just in the night 20 mg paroxetine, 2mg Clonazepam, 3mgrs Risperidone.

January 2012-July 2013 200 mgrs Quetiapine, 3mgrs Risperidone,2mg Clonazepam.

August 2013-December 2022 just in the night 3mgrs risperidone, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam

January 2023-Ocrober 2023 1.5 mgrs risperidone morning. 3mgrs risperidones, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam. (night)

Which PD should I first start to taper off with? Many thanks in advance. (Wednesday 4th October 2023)

 

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Hi, Rainbow.

 

Welcome to Surviving Antidepressants. 

 

You likely will want to reduce the Risperidone first. 

 

It sounds like you've already done some reading on the site, but just to make sure you have all of the necessary information, I'm going to list a few links. 

 

Tips for tapering off Risperdal (risperidone)

 

Why taper by 10% of my dosage?

 

The Windows and Waves Pattern of Stabilization

 

12 hours ago, rainbow said:

I'm thinking of lowering the dose from 3mg to 2,95mg.

 

This is a very reasonable micro-taper. 

 

12 hours ago, rainbow said:

My plan is half a tablet of 3mg plus a tablet of 1 mg and here I have the 2,5 mgs then the liquid which should be 0,45mgs which is equivalent to 9 drops. My question, (if somebody knows is). Can I take the dose combination of tablet + liquid. I read on this SA website that it is possible for those who want to take risperidone in liquid to take part in tablet and part in liquid and then move to the liquid form if desired. My thought is: The liquid is absorbed faster than the tablet (perhaps not much faster). My question is can I take part tablet and part liquid of risperidone in spite of the difference of speed absortion?

 

 

We do recommend moving from tablet to liquid gradually, so what you are doing is fine and will give your nervous system time to adjust to the liquid, while still having the majority of your dose taken via pill form. We recommend transitioning by no more than 25% increments, so your plan of taking .45 mg via liquid is 15% of your total dose of 2.95 mg, so you are doing less than 25%, which is good. 

 

However, we don't recommend making a reduction while switching over to liquid, so please take .50 mg of the liquid and 2.5 mg in tablet for a few days (for your total dose of 3 mg). If you make a reduction at the same time as you transition over to part liquid and you have a problem, you won't know if it's from the reduction or from the liquid switch. 

 

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On 4/29/2019 at 8:05 PM, rainbow said:

Hellow to everybody. I'm on 1 tablet risperidone 3mg and 1 tablet clonazepam 2mg since year 2000. And the third pill since 2014 is flunitrazepam 2mg. I take the 3 pills together at night.

 

According to some articles I've been reading although am not taking antidipressants it seems to me that the first psychiatric drug I should taper off is risperidone. I have to do a very slow taper. In my country this medication comes in tablets of 1, 2 and 3 mg and in liquid form. I'm thinking of lowering the dose from 3mg to 2,95mg. I'm taking the pill of 3mg and it has a slot to divide it into two exact pieces. I am thinking of taking the 2,95mg of risperidone part in tablet and part in liquid to get the exact dose. My plan is half a tablet of 3mg plus a tablet of 1 mg and here I have the 2,5 mgs then the liquid which should be 0,45mgs which is equivalent to 9 drops. My question, (if somebody knows is). Can I take the dose combination of tablet + liquid. I read on this SA website that it is possible for those who want to take risperidone in liquid to take part in tablet and part in liquid and then move to the liquid form if desired. My thought is: The liquid is absorbed faster than the tablet (perhaps not much faster). My question is can I take part tablet and part liquid of risperidone in spite of the difference of speed absortion? Many thanks.

Dear Administrator. In the case I am succesful with the micro taper from 3mg to 1,5mg risperidone at that point I would be with the following combination possible according to how the tablets come in 1, 2 and 3mg. The tablet of 3mg can be divided in two exactly pieces but may be it would be convenient to go on with the combined dose tablet + liquid of risperidone.

Then I would begin taking th 1mg tablet + 0,5mg liquid risperidone. but in this case 0,5mg liquid represents 33,33% of the total dose of 1,5mg. Would there be an inconvenience at this point because the proportion of decrease in liquid would be more than 25% of the total dose. What do you think? Will I be able to go on with the transitioning?
Many thanks in advance.

Hello. I'm rainbow. Thanks for your support. The medicines I"ve taken are:

February-March 1998 In the night 1 pill of Thiorizadine Clorhidrate plus one pill of Clobazam

Then:

April 1998-December 1999 just in the night Olanzapine (dont remeber dose), 20mgrs paroxetine, 2mgrs Clonazepam

January 2000-December 2011 just in the night 20 mg paroxetine, 2mg Clonazepam, 3mgrs Risperidone.

January 2012-July 2013 200 mgrs Quetiapine, 3mgrs Risperidone,2mg Clonazepam.

August 2013-December 2022 just in the night 3mgrs risperidone, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam

January 2023-Ocrober 2023 1.5 mgrs risperidone morning. 3mgrs risperidones, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam. (night)

Which PD should I first start to taper off with? Many thanks in advance. (Wednesday 4th October 2023)

 

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20 hours ago, rainbow said:

Dear Administrator. In the case I am succesful with the micro taper from 3mg to 1,5mg risperidone at that point I would be with the following combination possible according to how the tablets come in 1, 2 and 3mg

 

Rainbow, I'm having trouble understanding this. What is your proposed taper rate to go from 3 mg to 1.5 mg? 

 

20 hours ago, rainbow said:

Then I would begin taking th 1mg tablet + 0,5mg liquid risperidone. but in this case 0,5mg liquid represents 33,33% of the total dose of 1,5mg. Would there be an inconvenience at this point because the proportion of decrease in liquid would be more than 25% of the total dose. What do you think? Will I be able to go on with the transitioning?

 

By the time you get to this point, you'll have a better idea of how you are responding to the liquid. If your previous history is good and you were able to tolerate the liquid, you may be okay with a 33.33% liquid amount.

 

Please let us know how you're feeling. How are you sleeping? 

 

 

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12 hours ago, Shep said:

 

Rainbow, I'm having trouble understanding this. What is your proposed taper rate to go from 3 mg to 1.5 mg? 

 

 

By the time you get to this point, you'll have a better idea of how you are responding to the liquid. If your previous history is good and you were able to tolerate the liquid, you may be okay with a 33.33% liquid amount.

 

Please let us know how you're feeling. How are you sleeping? 

Hi Shep. Thanks for your back up. I'm slleping just 6 hours but uniterruptedly. My first aim is to slowly taper the risperidone down to 1mg or 0,5mg.. Then I don´t know if go on with the sleeping inductor flunitrazepam or with the clonazepam. The disadvantage is that flunitrazepam doesn't come in liquid and the tablet is impossible to split because it's sand like. I think this is made on purpose. 😞

Hello. I'm rainbow. Thanks for your support. The medicines I"ve taken are:

February-March 1998 In the night 1 pill of Thiorizadine Clorhidrate plus one pill of Clobazam

Then:

April 1998-December 1999 just in the night Olanzapine (dont remeber dose), 20mgrs paroxetine, 2mgrs Clonazepam

January 2000-December 2011 just in the night 20 mg paroxetine, 2mg Clonazepam, 3mgrs Risperidone.

January 2012-July 2013 200 mgrs Quetiapine, 3mgrs Risperidone,2mg Clonazepam.

August 2013-December 2022 just in the night 3mgrs risperidone, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam

January 2023-Ocrober 2023 1.5 mgrs risperidone morning. 3mgrs risperidones, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam. (night)

Which PD should I first start to taper off with? Many thanks in advance. (Wednesday 4th October 2023)

 

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14 hours ago, rainbow said:

My first aim is to slowly taper the risperidone down to 1mg or 0,5mg.

 

As long as you don't go faster than 10% of your previous dose, you should be fine:

 

Why taper by 10% of my dosage?

 

If this is too fast, you may want to consider a micro-taper:

 

Micro-taper instead of 10% or 5% decreases

 

The Brassmonkey Slide Method of Micro-tapering

 

14 hours ago, rainbow said:

Then I don´t know if go on with the sleeping inductor flunitrazepam or with the clonazepam. The disadvantage is that flunitrazepam doesn't come in liquid and the tablet is impossible to split because it's sand like. I think this is made on purpose.

 

Flunitrazepam has a long half-life of 18 - 26 hours, but it's active metabolite lasts 36 - 200 hours. Clonazepam's half-life is 18 - 50 hours, so from the standpoint of half-life, they both are relatively long. 

 

Do you take both of these drugs at the same time? Are they both for sleep? 

 

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8 hours ago, Shep said:

 

As long as you don't go faster than 10% of your previous dose, you should be fine:

 

Why taper by 10% of my dosage?

 

If this is too fast, you may want to consider a micro-taper:

 

Micro-taper instead of 10% or 5% decreases

 

The Brassmonkey Slide Method of Micro-tapering

 

 

Flunitrazepam has a long half-life of 18 - 26 hours, but it's active metabolite lasts 36 - 200 hours. Clonazepam's half-life is 18 - 50 hours, so from the standpoint of half-life, they both are relatively long. 

 

Do you take both of these drugs at the same time? Are they both for sleep? 

 

We really do need a signature so that the moderators can get your drug history quickly without having to read through your posts. 

 

Please add a signature.  Include drugs, doses, dates, and discontinuations & reinstatements in the last 12-24 months. Also include supplements. This will help us give you the most accurate advice we can. 

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1) Do you take both of these drugs at the same time? 2) Are they both for sleep?  Answers: 1) I was never prescribed clonazepam to sleep although I was prescribed this drug in year 2000. And in June 2013 I was admitted to a clinic because 2 of my brothers said I was "odd" then, they sent me there. I was violently treated by a he nurse and couldn't sleep for exactly 20 days. It was like hell having to "pass" those days at that clinic. I take both clonazepam and flunitrazepam and risperidone at night at the same hour.

Hello. I'm rainbow. Thanks for your support. The medicines I"ve taken are:

February-March 1998 In the night 1 pill of Thiorizadine Clorhidrate plus one pill of Clobazam

Then:

April 1998-December 1999 just in the night Olanzapine (dont remeber dose), 20mgrs paroxetine, 2mgrs Clonazepam

January 2000-December 2011 just in the night 20 mg paroxetine, 2mg Clonazepam, 3mgrs Risperidone.

January 2012-July 2013 200 mgrs Quetiapine, 3mgrs Risperidone,2mg Clonazepam.

August 2013-December 2022 just in the night 3mgrs risperidone, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam

January 2023-Ocrober 2023 1.5 mgrs risperidone morning. 3mgrs risperidones, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam. (night)

Which PD should I first start to taper off with? Many thanks in advance. (Wednesday 4th October 2023)

 

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Thanks for the additional information, Rainbow.

 

Please let us know how your risperidone taper goes. 

 

 

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Tapering off from Klonopin (clonazepam 2mg)

 

Hello, 

Hope you are doing well.

 

I am trying to taper off from Clonapine. Until June/2020 I was taking 1 pill of this drug (2mg) and since June 15th I take 3/4 of the pill. I wanted to reduce 12,5% but I couldn't get down the dose 1/8 of the pill so I cut the pill in 2 halves and I'm taking 3/4 of te pill. That's to say the reduction was of 25% I didn't have much problem. The first week my sleeping was a bit less but then I got used to the new dose. So I've been taking 1,5mg for 2 months and a half aproximately. Now I'm thinking of reducing a bit more but with the pill the exact reduction would be another quarter of the pill (now I'm taking half a pill of 2mg+ 1/4 of the pill of 2mg). This time I think reducing 25% would be too much and I think it wouldn't work. Thrn I'm thinging of taking 1/2 a pill of 2mg of clonapine plus the drug in liquid. 7 drops is equivalent to 0,5 mg. Thrn I'm thinking of taking 1/2 a pill + 7 drops of clonapine for 1 week to see if there's no problem. Then if there's no proble I would beguin reducing. I would take 1/2 a pill + 5 drops for two weeks then reduce to 3 drops. Do you think this way I would be doing it correctly? Many thanks in advance. Rainbow

 

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Hello. I'm rainbow. Thanks for your support. The medicines I"ve taken are:

February-March 1998 In the night 1 pill of Thiorizadine Clorhidrate plus one pill of Clobazam

Then:

April 1998-December 1999 just in the night Olanzapine (dont remeber dose), 20mgrs paroxetine, 2mgrs Clonazepam

January 2000-December 2011 just in the night 20 mg paroxetine, 2mg Clonazepam, 3mgrs Risperidone.

January 2012-July 2013 200 mgrs Quetiapine, 3mgrs Risperidone,2mg Clonazepam.

August 2013-December 2022 just in the night 3mgrs risperidone, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam

January 2023-Ocrober 2023 1.5 mgrs risperidone morning. 3mgrs risperidones, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam. (night)

Which PD should I first start to taper off with? Many thanks in advance. (Wednesday 4th October 2023)

 

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What drugs are you currently taking, drug name and dose please?

 

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Please post telling us what drug changes (dates and doses) you have made since you were last here in May 2019.  Thank you.

 

What drugs are you currently taking, drug name and dose please?

 

I will ask the other mods to respond to your post.

Hello ChessieCat. Thanks for your answer. Well regarding risperidone I just tried to cut a bit of the pill of risperidone to taper off from it but I didn't succeed. I didn't try the reduction with pill + liquid as I first wanted. I will do it in the future.

If you think it's convenient I can re-write or copy/paste my original plan. I tried tapering risperidone in June 2019. But cutting the pill with a knife didn't allow me to get an exact quantity. And now 2 months and a half ago I began trying to taper off Clonapine. I'm taking 3mg risperidone, 1.5 mg clonazepam (Clonapine, Klonopin), and 2 mg of flunitrazepam (Rohypnol). It's 2 months and a half since I began reducing the Clonapine. From 1 pill I reduced to 3/4 of a pill that's to say 25% reduction. But now I think reducin the pill of 2mg instead of 3/4 to 1/2 a pill would be too much. That's why I'm thinking of combining the pill of clonazepam with the liquid. I would start taking 1/2 a pill of 2mg plus 7 drops of liquid which represents 0,5 mg. Thanks for your help. After getting rid of Clonapine If I can I would go on with the tapering of risperidone. Thank you ChessieCat

Hello. I'm rainbow. Thanks for your support. The medicines I"ve taken are:

February-March 1998 In the night 1 pill of Thiorizadine Clorhidrate plus one pill of Clobazam

Then:

April 1998-December 1999 just in the night Olanzapine (dont remeber dose), 20mgrs paroxetine, 2mgrs Clonazepam

January 2000-December 2011 just in the night 20 mg paroxetine, 2mg Clonazepam, 3mgrs Risperidone.

January 2012-July 2013 200 mgrs Quetiapine, 3mgrs Risperidone,2mg Clonazepam.

August 2013-December 2022 just in the night 3mgrs risperidone, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam

January 2023-Ocrober 2023 1.5 mgrs risperidone morning. 3mgrs risperidones, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam. (night)

Which PD should I first start to taper off with? Many thanks in advance. (Wednesday 4th October 2023)

 

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24 minutes ago, rainbow said:

I'm taking 3mg risperidone, 1.5 mg clonazepam (Clonapine, Klonopin), and 2 mg of flunitrazepam (Rohypnol).

22 minutes ago, rainbow said:

It's 2 months and a half since I began reducing the Clonapine. From 1 pill I reduced to 3/4 of a pill that's to say 25% reduction. But now I think reducin the pill of 2mg instead of 3/4 to 1/2 a pill would be too much. That's why I'm thinking of combining the pill of clonazepam with the liquid. I would start taking 1/2 a pill of 2mg plus 7 drops of liquid which represents 0,5 mg.

 

Please only reduce by 10% or less each month. Since you have liquid clonazepam, you can do a slow liquid titration. 

 

Please see:

 

Why taper by 10% of my dosage?

 

From 1.5 mg clonazepam, you would want to reduce down to no more than 1.35 mg, which is a 10% reduction. 

 

Please let us know the brand of prescription liquid clonazepam you are using and the concentration ratio. This ratio will be listed as a mg / mL ratio on your brand of liquid. 

 

Once you provide this information, we can guide you in setting up a liquid taper.

 

Questions - how much are you sleeping each night? Do you feel like you've stabilized since you decreased 2.5 months ago? If not, please hold until you're feeling better. Since it's been 2.5 months since your last reduction, an updose may not be very effective. So your best path forward will be to hold until you're as stable as possible and then decrease by no more than 10% a month. 

 

 

 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Shep said:

 

Please only reduce by 10% or less each month. Since you have liquid clonazepam, you can do a slow liquid titration. 

Hello Shep. Thanks for your reply. in the expression "liquid titration" i don't understand what the meaning of "titration" is.

11 minutes ago, Shep said:

Please see:

 

Why taper by 10% of my dosage?

 

From 1.5 mg clonazepam, you would want to reduce down to no more than 1.35 mg, which is a 10% reduction. 

Ok Shep. I understand. Can I combine tablet + liquid clonazepam.

 

Please let us know the brand of prescription liquid clonazepam you are using and the concentration ratio. This ratio will be listed as a mg / mL ratio on your brand of liquid. 

The brand of clonazepam is Clonazam 2,5 mg/ml and the prospect informs that 35 drops of liquid clonazepam is equivalent to 2,5 mg. So 1,35mg would be 18,9 drops and thiswould be to say 19 drops. Right? (the container of the liquid comes wiyh just 10ml). It's a bit expensive and each jar woul last for 18,42 days.

 

Once you provide this information, we can guide you in setting up a liquid taper.

 

Questions - how much are you sleeping each night? Do you feel like you've stabilized since you decreased 2.5 months ago? If not, please hold until you're feeling better. Since it's been 2.5 months since your last reduction, an updose may not be very effective. So your best path forward will be to hold until you're as stable as possible and then decrease by no more than 10% a month. 

I am sleeping between 6,5 and 7 hours. I feel pretty stable. 

I would like to know If I could combine pill with liquid for the dose.

Many thanks. Shep.

11 minutes ago, Shep said:

 

 

 

 

Hello. I'm rainbow. Thanks for your support. The medicines I"ve taken are:

February-March 1998 In the night 1 pill of Thiorizadine Clorhidrate plus one pill of Clobazam

Then:

April 1998-December 1999 just in the night Olanzapine (dont remeber dose), 20mgrs paroxetine, 2mgrs Clonazepam

January 2000-December 2011 just in the night 20 mg paroxetine, 2mg Clonazepam, 3mgrs Risperidone.

January 2012-July 2013 200 mgrs Quetiapine, 3mgrs Risperidone,2mg Clonazepam.

August 2013-December 2022 just in the night 3mgrs risperidone, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam

January 2023-Ocrober 2023 1.5 mgrs risperidone morning. 3mgrs risperidones, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam. (night)

Which PD should I first start to taper off with? Many thanks in advance. (Wednesday 4th October 2023)

 

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22 hours ago, rainbow said:

in the expression "liquid titration" i don't understand what the meaning of "titration" is.

 

You will see the words "liquid titration" used on the forum to refer to reducing a drug using a liquid formula (either prescription liquid or dissolving a tablet in water). 

 

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The brand of clonazepam is Clonazam 2,5 mg/ml and the prospect informs that 35 drops of liquid clonazepam is equivalent to 2,5 mg. So 1,35mg would be 18,9 drops and thiswould be to say 19 drops. Right? (the container of the liquid comes wiyh just 10ml).

 

Many people find It's actually easier to mix concentrated clonazepam in water in order to taper. As you get down to the lower doses, it will be harder to measure by drops. Since 35 drops = 2.5 mg, then each drop equals .0714 mg. This is too high a dose to stop taking, so you'll want a taper method that allows you to decrease by smaller amounts. 

 

For more information on liquid tapering, please see: 

 

How to make a liquid from tablets or capsules

 

Using an oral syringe and other tapering techniques

 

This is a video that may be helpful. Please note that she is using a pill and not a liquid concentrate, but it will show you how to use a cylinder and syringe to measure. There are other videos out there on YouTube which you may want to watch. 

 

Use water to taper your benzo! video (4.5 minutes)

 

The ratio for your concentrate is: 

 

2.5 mg : 1 mL

 

Add 1 mL liquid Klonopin to 249 mL of water to equal a total of 250 mL 

 

The ratio is now:

 

2.5 mg : 250 mL = .01 mg in each mL

 

To take 1.35 mg, you would take 135 mL of the solution. 

 

 

 

22 hours ago, rainbow said:

I would like to know If I could combine pill with liquid for the dose.

 

Yes, you can combine pill with liquid. We recommend transitioning over from pill to liquid slowly. So you may want to take 25% by liquid and 75% by pill for a few days. Then 50% each. And then 25% pill and 75% liquid. And then transition over completely to liquid. 

 

Some people like to continue to take part of their doses by pill and only use liquid in the dose they are taking. So you could do a combination. Please let me know if this answers your questions.

 

Important note - please do not make a reduction while you are switching from pill to liquid. Only make one change at a time. Once you are finished switching from pill to liquid, please hold for at least a week before making a reduction. This allows your nervous system to adjust to the change from pill to liquid. 

 

23 hours ago, rainbow said:

I am sleeping between 6,5 and 7 hours. I feel pretty stable. 

 

This is excellent. I'm glad you are feeling stable. 

 

 

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You will see the words "liquid titration" used on the forum to refer to reducing a drug using a liquid formula (either prescription liquid or dissolving a tablet in water). 

 

 

Many people find It's actually easier to mix concentrated clonazepam in water in order to taper. As you get down to the lower doses, it will be harder to measure by drops. Since 35 drops = 2.5 mg, then each drop equals .0714 mg. This is too high a dose to stop taking, so you'll want a taper method that allows you to decrease by smaller amounts. 

 

For more information on liquid tapering, please see: 

 

How to make a liquid from tablets or capsules

 

Using an oral syringe and other tapering techniques

 

This is a video that may be helpful. Please note that she is using a pill and not a liquid concentrate, but it will show you how to use a cylinder and syringe to measure. There are other videos out there on YouTube which you may want to watch. 

 

Use water to taper your benzo! video (4.5 minutes)

 

The ratio for your concentrate is: 

 

2.5 mg : 1 mL

 

Add 1 mL liquid Klonopin to 249 mL of water to equal a total of 250 mL 

(Hi Shep, hope you are fine. The sentence above of adding 1ml liquid Klonopin to 249ml of water is an example of "titration" Right?)

The ratio is now:

 

2.5 mg : 250 mL = .01 mg in each mL

 

To take 1.35 mg, you would take 135 mL of the solution. 

 

 

 

 

Yes, you can combine pill with liquid. We recommend transitioning over from pill to liquid slowly. So you may want to take 25% by liquid and 75% by pill for a few days. Then 50% each. And then 25% pill and 75% liquid. And then transition over completely to liquid. (Shep in my case the pill can be divided in 4 quarters, so the minimun division I can get of the pill is 0,25mg, and now I'm taking 1,5mg of Klonopin in pill that's to say 3/4 of the 2mg pill) then Could it be possible to take half a pill of clonazepam (1mg Klonopin) in tablet + 0,5 mg in liquid Klonopin. This would be in percentage 66,66% in tablet and 33,33% in liquid (the nearest to the 75% in pill and 25% in liquid you recomend or suggest) . And according to your explanation of the ratio 2,5mg Klonopin in 250 ml of water, then it would be 0,5mg liquid Klonopin in 50ml of water. Right?  I should add 50ml of water to the 0,5mg liquid Klonopin, right? I would take it for a few days as you said, (let's say a week if it's ok) and then move from 1,5 mg Klonopin to 1,35mg which would be as you said a 10% reduction and keep the 1,35mg for a month or two). Thanks indeed Shep. I look forward to receiving your answer.

 

Some people like to continue to take part of their doses by pill and only use liquid in the dose they are taking. (Sorry Shep i didn't understand when you say "...part of the dose by pill and <<<only use liquid in the dose they are taking>>>"). Thanks indeed. So you could do a combination. Please let me know if this answers your questions.

 

Important note - please do not make a reduction while you are switching from pill to liquid. Only make one change at a time. Once you are finished switching from pill to liquid, please hold for at least a week before making a reduction. This allows your nervous system to adjust to the change from pill to liquid. 

 

 

This is excellent. I'm glad you are feeling stable. 

 

Hello. I'm rainbow. Thanks for your support. The medicines I"ve taken are:

February-March 1998 In the night 1 pill of Thiorizadine Clorhidrate plus one pill of Clobazam

Then:

April 1998-December 1999 just in the night Olanzapine (dont remeber dose), 20mgrs paroxetine, 2mgrs Clonazepam

January 2000-December 2011 just in the night 20 mg paroxetine, 2mg Clonazepam, 3mgrs Risperidone.

January 2012-July 2013 200 mgrs Quetiapine, 3mgrs Risperidone,2mg Clonazepam.

August 2013-December 2022 just in the night 3mgrs risperidone, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam

January 2023-Ocrober 2023 1.5 mgrs risperidone morning. 3mgrs risperidones, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam. (night)

Which PD should I first start to taper off with? Many thanks in advance. (Wednesday 4th October 2023)

 

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14 hours ago, rainbow said:

(Shep in my case the pill can be divided in 4 quarters, so the minimun division I can get of the pill is 0,25mg, and now I'm taking 1,5mg of Klonopin in pill that's to say 3/4 of the 2mg pill) then Could it be possible to take half a pill of clonazepam (1mg Klonopin) in tablet + 0,5 mg in liquid Klonopin. This would be in percentage 66,66% in tablet and 33,33% in liquid (the nearest to the 75% in pill and 25% in liquid you recomend or suggest) .

 

Thanks for this information, rainbow. I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were working with 2 mg pills (although you do have it in your signature). Are you able to get a prescription for 1 mg or 0.5 mg pill strength? The goal is not to make a sudden transfer from pill to liquid, but to transfer gradually. So if you aren't able to get a smaller pill size, you'll have to work with what you have. 

 

If you transfer a larger percentage to liquid, please give yourself more time to stabilize before transferring more to liquid. Your nervous system needs to adjust to the change to liquid. So if you use 33.33%, please give yourself a few more days before going to 66.66%.

 

Please let me know if this answers your question. 

 

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And according to your explanation of the ratio 2,5mg Klonopin in 250 ml of water, then it would be 0,5mg liquid Klonopin in 50ml of water. Right?  I should add 50ml of water to the 0,5mg liquid Klonopin, right? I would take it for a few days as you said, (let's say a week if it's ok) and then move from 1,5 mg Klonopin to 1,35mg which would be as you said a 10% reduction and keep the 1,35mg for a month or two). Thanks indeed Shep. I look forward to receiving your answer.

 

I'm not sure I understand. Are you wanting to cross over completely to a liquid taper? Or are you wanting to combine taking pills and using the liquid portion to make your decreases? If you wish to keep taking part of your dose in tablet and part in liquid, then yes, you could use a smaller amount of the drug and a smaller amount of the additional water. 

 

However, because the ratio of your liquid is 2.5 mg : 1 mL, in order to get 0.5 mg, you will need 0.2 mL of the prescription medication. So you would add the 0.2 mL of the prescription to 49.8 mL of water. This will give you 0.5 mg (.2 mL) in 50 mL total liquid. 

 

Please let me know if this answers your question. 

 

 

 

 

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Thanks for this information, rainbow. I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were working with 2 mg pills (although you do have it in your signature). Are you able to get a prescription for 1 mg or 0.5 mg pill strength? The goal is not to make a sudden transfer from pill to liquid, but to transfer gradually. So if you aren't able to get a smaller pill size, you'll have to work with what you have. 

 

If you transfer a larger percentage to liquid, please give yourself more time to stabilize before transferring more to liquid. Your nervous system needs to adjust to the change to liquid. So if you use 33.33%, please give yourself a few more days before going to 66.66%.

Hello Shep, I found out if in my country pills of clonazepam with less strenght were sold and I discovered to my surprise that it also comes in 0,5mg but not in pills of 1mg. (they are different brands and different laboratories).  So in pills I can get tablets of 0,5mg and tablets of 2mg.  The transition of clonazepam pill to liquid I agree that it has to be done as slowly as possible so that I give time to the Nervous System to adjust. Thinking of the pill of 2mg which it comes with 2 grooves or slots (so I it can be divided into 4 pieces I can get 3/4 of 2mg that's to say 1,5 mg).  Probably the 0,5mg pill comes with 1 or 2 grooves to make 1 or 2 divisions of the pill getting 2 and 4 equal parts respectively.

On 8/28/2020 at 9:37 AM, Shep said:

 

Please let me know if this answers your question. 

 

 

I'm not sure I understand. Are you wanting to cross over completely to a liquid taper? Or are you wanting to combine taking pills and using the liquid portion to make your decreases? If you wish to keep taking part of your dose in tablet and part in liquid, then yes, you could use a smaller amount of the drug and a smaller amount of the additional water. 

Am thinking of transitioning from pill to liquid but slowly in order to give the necessary time to my nervous system to adjust. When I reach te point of taking between 7 and 10 drops then I would yes like to taper with the liquid. Is it possible Shep? (7 drops is equal to 0.5mg of clonazepam.)

 

However, because the ratio of your liquid is 2.5 mg : 1 mL, in order to get 0.5 mg, you will need 0.2 mL of the prescription medication. So you would add the 0.2 mL of the prescription to 49.8 mL of water. This will give you 0.5 mg (.2 mL) in 50 mL total liquid.  Good, I understand. Many thanks for the huge help you are providing me with. If you have an idea using the 0,5 clonazepam pill please let me know. Many thanks Shep.

 

Please let me know if this answers your question. 

 

 

 

Hello. I'm rainbow. Thanks for your support. The medicines I"ve taken are:

February-March 1998 In the night 1 pill of Thiorizadine Clorhidrate plus one pill of Clobazam

Then:

April 1998-December 1999 just in the night Olanzapine (dont remeber dose), 20mgrs paroxetine, 2mgrs Clonazepam

January 2000-December 2011 just in the night 20 mg paroxetine, 2mg Clonazepam, 3mgrs Risperidone.

January 2012-July 2013 200 mgrs Quetiapine, 3mgrs Risperidone,2mg Clonazepam.

August 2013-December 2022 just in the night 3mgrs risperidone, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam

January 2023-Ocrober 2023 1.5 mgrs risperidone morning. 3mgrs risperidones, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam. (night)

Which PD should I first start to taper off with? Many thanks in advance. (Wednesday 4th October 2023)

 

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21 hours ago, rainbow said:

Am thinking of transitioning from pill to liquid but slowly in order to give the necessary time to my nervous system to adjust. When I reach te point of taking between 7 and 10 drops then I would yes like to taper with the liquid. Is it possible Shep? (7 drops is equal to 0.5mg of clonazepam.)

 

Yes, but I would add the liquid medication to additional water instead of measuring by drops. 

 

If you wish to take part of your dose in pill and part in liquid to taper, that will work fine. 

 

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Shep said:

 

Yes, but I would add the liquid medication to additional water instead of measuring by drops. 

 

If you wish to take part of your dose in pill and part in liquid to taper, that will work fine. 

 

 

Hello Shep. Yes, I am of the idea of taking my dose part in pill and part in  liquid to taper. Now that I know that tablets of clonazepam 0,5mg are being sold in my country will we include this tablet of 0,5mg to compose the dose? Thank you Shep.

Hello. I'm rainbow. Thanks for your support. The medicines I"ve taken are:

February-March 1998 In the night 1 pill of Thiorizadine Clorhidrate plus one pill of Clobazam

Then:

April 1998-December 1999 just in the night Olanzapine (dont remeber dose), 20mgrs paroxetine, 2mgrs Clonazepam

January 2000-December 2011 just in the night 20 mg paroxetine, 2mg Clonazepam, 3mgrs Risperidone.

January 2012-July 2013 200 mgrs Quetiapine, 3mgrs Risperidone,2mg Clonazepam.

August 2013-December 2022 just in the night 3mgrs risperidone, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam

January 2023-Ocrober 2023 1.5 mgrs risperidone morning. 3mgrs risperidones, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam. (night)

Which PD should I first start to taper off with? Many thanks in advance. (Wednesday 4th October 2023)

 

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5 hours ago, Shep said:

 

Yes, but I would add the liquid medication to additional water instead of measuring by drops. 

Shep, how would this be done? I mean: adding the liquid medication to aditional water instead of measuring by drops.

 

If you wish to take part of your dose in pill and part in liquid to taper, that will work fine. 

 

 

 

Hello. I'm rainbow. Thanks for your support. The medicines I"ve taken are:

February-March 1998 In the night 1 pill of Thiorizadine Clorhidrate plus one pill of Clobazam

Then:

April 1998-December 1999 just in the night Olanzapine (dont remeber dose), 20mgrs paroxetine, 2mgrs Clonazepam

January 2000-December 2011 just in the night 20 mg paroxetine, 2mg Clonazepam, 3mgrs Risperidone.

January 2012-July 2013 200 mgrs Quetiapine, 3mgrs Risperidone,2mg Clonazepam.

August 2013-December 2022 just in the night 3mgrs risperidone, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam

January 2023-Ocrober 2023 1.5 mgrs risperidone morning. 3mgrs risperidones, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam. (night)

Which PD should I first start to taper off with? Many thanks in advance. (Wednesday 4th October 2023)

 

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Please read this post from earlier in your thread, as it contains the instructions, along with links to the liquid tapering thread and a video which shows you the type of instruments such as a graduated cylinder and a syringe that you'll need: 

 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/20468-rainbow-help-to-slowly-taper-risperidone-3mg/?tab=comments#comment-498428

 

And this post  contains information on making part of your dose (0.5 mg) in liquid: 

 

On 8/28/2020 at 8:37 AM, Shep said:

However, because the ratio of your liquid is 2.5 mg : 1 mL, in order to get 0.5 mg, you will need 0.2 mL of the prescription medication. So you would add the 0.2 mL of the prescription to 49.8 mL of water. This will give you 0.5 mg (.2 mL) in 50 mL total liquid. 

 

Please note that for now, you need to continue taking your full dose. Please don't decrease your dose until you've moved over to liquid and stabilized. 

 

If you have questions about using a graduated cylinder or syringe, you may want to contact your local pharmacist for assistance. 

 

 

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Hello Shep. The graduated cylinder should come with a lid or cover, right? Thank you.

 

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Hello. I'm rainbow. Thanks for your support. The medicines I"ve taken are:

February-March 1998 In the night 1 pill of Thiorizadine Clorhidrate plus one pill of Clobazam

Then:

April 1998-December 1999 just in the night Olanzapine (dont remeber dose), 20mgrs paroxetine, 2mgrs Clonazepam

January 2000-December 2011 just in the night 20 mg paroxetine, 2mg Clonazepam, 3mgrs Risperidone.

January 2012-July 2013 200 mgrs Quetiapine, 3mgrs Risperidone,2mg Clonazepam.

August 2013-December 2022 just in the night 3mgrs risperidone, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam

January 2023-Ocrober 2023 1.5 mgrs risperidone morning. 3mgrs risperidones, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam. (night)

Which PD should I first start to taper off with? Many thanks in advance. (Wednesday 4th October 2023)

 

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Hi Shep. If taking my dose of clonazepam part in pill and part in liquid to taper works fine then How should I do it? Is there one way or two ways of doing this? Thank you.

Hello. I'm rainbow. Thanks for your support. The medicines I"ve taken are:

February-March 1998 In the night 1 pill of Thiorizadine Clorhidrate plus one pill of Clobazam

Then:

April 1998-December 1999 just in the night Olanzapine (dont remeber dose), 20mgrs paroxetine, 2mgrs Clonazepam

January 2000-December 2011 just in the night 20 mg paroxetine, 2mg Clonazepam, 3mgrs Risperidone.

January 2012-July 2013 200 mgrs Quetiapine, 3mgrs Risperidone,2mg Clonazepam.

August 2013-December 2022 just in the night 3mgrs risperidone, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam

January 2023-Ocrober 2023 1.5 mgrs risperidone morning. 3mgrs risperidones, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam. (night)

Which PD should I first start to taper off with? Many thanks in advance. (Wednesday 4th October 2023)

 

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26 minutes ago, rainbow said:

The graduated cylinder should come with a lid or cover, right?

 

I don't think it will have a cover.  The pictures graduated cylinders that I have seen online don't have a lid / cover.

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I don't think it will have a cover.  The pictures graduated cylinders that I have seen online don't have a lid / cover.

Hello ChessieCat. Thanks a lot. Till next communication.

Hello. I'm rainbow. Thanks for your support. The medicines I"ve taken are:

February-March 1998 In the night 1 pill of Thiorizadine Clorhidrate plus one pill of Clobazam

Then:

April 1998-December 1999 just in the night Olanzapine (dont remeber dose), 20mgrs paroxetine, 2mgrs Clonazepam

January 2000-December 2011 just in the night 20 mg paroxetine, 2mg Clonazepam, 3mgrs Risperidone.

January 2012-July 2013 200 mgrs Quetiapine, 3mgrs Risperidone,2mg Clonazepam.

August 2013-December 2022 just in the night 3mgrs risperidone, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam

January 2023-Ocrober 2023 1.5 mgrs risperidone morning. 3mgrs risperidones, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam. (night)

Which PD should I first start to taper off with? Many thanks in advance. (Wednesday 4th October 2023)

 

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13 hours ago, rainbow said:

Hi Shep. If taking my dose of clonazepam part in pill and part in liquid to taper works fine then How should I do it? Is there one way or two ways of doing this? Thank you.

 

Whatever way is best for you will be fine. Some people will take part of their dose in liquid and use that portion to make their reductions. And the rest they take in pill form. 

 

So if you're on 1.5 mg clonazepam, you could make 0.5 mg in liquid and take 1 mg in pill form. To make a 10% reduction, you would reduce the liquid by 0.15 mg (which is 10% of the full 1.5 mg dose). 

 

Please let me know what you decide to do - how much you wish to take in pill and how much in liquid, and I can help you with the math for your taper. For the initial transfer from pill to liquid, please don't make any reductions. See how you do with the liquid before reducing your dose. One change at a time is always best. 

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Shep said:

 

Whatever way is best for you will be fine. Some people will take part of their dose in liquid and use that portion to make their reductions. And the rest they take in pill form. 

 

So if you're on 1.5 mg clonazepam, you could make 0.5 mg in liquid and take 1 mg in pill form. To make a 10% reduction, you would reduce the liquid by 0.15 mg (which is 10% of the full 1.5 mg dose). 

 

Please let me know what you decide to do - how much you wish to take in pill and how much in liquid, and I can help you with the math for your taper. For the initial transfer from pill to liquid, please don't make any reductions. See how you do with the liquid before reducing your dose. One change at a time is always best. 

 

Hello Shep. As I told you about two weeks ago with the 1,5mg dose I 'm taking I feel pretty stable but not 100% stable. I would like to take 1,75mg which I think would do me better and begin the decrease from 1,75mg. First I have to see the Dr. to get the prescription for the liquid clonazepam. Then I'm thinking of two posible combination of doses 1st) Taking 1,5mg of clonazepam in pill+0,25mg in liquid or 2) Take 1mg of clonazepam in pil + 0,75mg in liquid. Which of the two options do you find more adequate? Thanks in advance.

Hello. I'm rainbow. Thanks for your support. The medicines I"ve taken are:

February-March 1998 In the night 1 pill of Thiorizadine Clorhidrate plus one pill of Clobazam

Then:

April 1998-December 1999 just in the night Olanzapine (dont remeber dose), 20mgrs paroxetine, 2mgrs Clonazepam

January 2000-December 2011 just in the night 20 mg paroxetine, 2mg Clonazepam, 3mgrs Risperidone.

January 2012-July 2013 200 mgrs Quetiapine, 3mgrs Risperidone,2mg Clonazepam.

August 2013-December 2022 just in the night 3mgrs risperidone, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam

January 2023-Ocrober 2023 1.5 mgrs risperidone morning. 3mgrs risperidones, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam. (night)

Which PD should I first start to taper off with? Many thanks in advance. (Wednesday 4th October 2023)

 

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4 hours ago, Shep said:

 

Whatever way is best for you will be fine. Some people will take part of their dose in liquid and use that portion to make their reductions. And the rest they take in pill form. 

 

So if you're on 1.5 mg clonazepam, you could make 0.5 mg in liquid and take 1 mg in pill form. To make a 10% reduction, you would reduce the liquid by 0.15 mg (which is 10% of the full 1.5 mg dose). 

 

Please let me know what you decide to do - how much you wish to take in pill and how much in liquid, and I can help you with the math for your taper. For the initial transfer from pill to liquid, please don't make any reductions. See how you do with the liquid before reducing your dose. One change at a time is always best.  Ok Shep for the initial transfer from pill to liquid I won't make any reductions for at least two or three weeks if you estimate this period of time could be adequate. Kind regards and Many thanks.

 

 

Hello. I'm rainbow. Thanks for your support. The medicines I"ve taken are:

February-March 1998 In the night 1 pill of Thiorizadine Clorhidrate plus one pill of Clobazam

Then:

April 1998-December 1999 just in the night Olanzapine (dont remeber dose), 20mgrs paroxetine, 2mgrs Clonazepam

January 2000-December 2011 just in the night 20 mg paroxetine, 2mg Clonazepam, 3mgrs Risperidone.

January 2012-July 2013 200 mgrs Quetiapine, 3mgrs Risperidone,2mg Clonazepam.

August 2013-December 2022 just in the night 3mgrs risperidone, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam

January 2023-Ocrober 2023 1.5 mgrs risperidone morning. 3mgrs risperidones, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam. (night)

Which PD should I first start to taper off with? Many thanks in advance. (Wednesday 4th October 2023)

 

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I don't think it will have a cover.  The pictures graduated cylinders that I have seen online don't have a lid / cover.

Hello ChessieCat. Hope you are doing well. Could you please tell me what does the graduated cylinder is for? or How does it work? Thanks in advance.

Hello. I'm rainbow. Thanks for your support. The medicines I"ve taken are:

February-March 1998 In the night 1 pill of Thiorizadine Clorhidrate plus one pill of Clobazam

Then:

April 1998-December 1999 just in the night Olanzapine (dont remeber dose), 20mgrs paroxetine, 2mgrs Clonazepam

January 2000-December 2011 just in the night 20 mg paroxetine, 2mg Clonazepam, 3mgrs Risperidone.

January 2012-July 2013 200 mgrs Quetiapine, 3mgrs Risperidone,2mg Clonazepam.

August 2013-December 2022 just in the night 3mgrs risperidone, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam

January 2023-Ocrober 2023 1.5 mgrs risperidone morning. 3mgrs risperidones, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam. (night)

Which PD should I first start to taper off with? Many thanks in advance. (Wednesday 4th October 2023)

 

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19 hours ago, rainbow said:

As I told you about two weeks ago with the 1,5mg dose I 'm taking I feel pretty stable but not 100% stable. I would like to take 1,75mg which I think would do me better and begin the decrease from 1,75mg.

 

When were you last at a dose higher than 1.5 mg? This is important because updoses in benzos work best within a month of being on that dose. 

 

16 hours ago, rainbow said:

Could you please tell me what does the graduated cylinder is for? or How does it work?

 

Some people use a graduated cylinder to measure their dose in mL (milliliters). Others find that they can measure their dose in mL by using a syringe. So it's really personal preference. 

 

For more information on liquid tapering, please see: 

 

How to make a liquid from tablets or capsules

 

Using an oral syringe and other tapering techniques

 

Questions and answers about liquid medications

 

LearningTools: Reading Syringes video (14 minutes)

 

You'll find quite a number of videos on YouTube for liquid tapering benzos. You may want to watch a few before you begin transitioning over to liquid. Here are a couple to get you started. Please note that while these videos involve a homemade liquid using pills, the procedure and equipment used are the same for using prescription liquid. 

 

Benzodiazepine Withdrawal - Ativan (Lorazepam) Liquid Micro Taper video (6 minutes)

 

Use water to taper your benzo! video (4.5 minutes)

 

 

 

 

 

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On 8/26/2020 at 11:05 AM, Shep said:

 

 

Hello Shep. Hope you are doing well. According to my calculations and taking into acount that 2,5mg is equivalent to 35 drops liquid clonazepam; from the liquid clonazepam the least I can get would be 2,5x1/35=0.0714mg. I want to let you know that I had to beguin from the start because I was not feeling that well with the 1,5mg dose. I began taking a combination of 2mg pill + 0,5mg pill: 2mgx3/4+0,5mgx3/4=1,5mg+0,375mg=1,875mg which is 6,25% reduction of 2mg of clonazepam. I began this past October 11th and so far I'm very well. Thank you very much.

Hello. I'm rainbow. Thanks for your support. The medicines I"ve taken are:

February-March 1998 In the night 1 pill of Thiorizadine Clorhidrate plus one pill of Clobazam

Then:

April 1998-December 1999 just in the night Olanzapine (dont remeber dose), 20mgrs paroxetine, 2mgrs Clonazepam

January 2000-December 2011 just in the night 20 mg paroxetine, 2mg Clonazepam, 3mgrs Risperidone.

January 2012-July 2013 200 mgrs Quetiapine, 3mgrs Risperidone,2mg Clonazepam.

August 2013-December 2022 just in the night 3mgrs risperidone, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam

January 2023-Ocrober 2023 1.5 mgrs risperidone morning. 3mgrs risperidones, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam. (night)

Which PD should I first start to taper off with? Many thanks in advance. (Wednesday 4th October 2023)

 

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21 hours ago, rainbow said:

According to my calculations and taking into acount that 2,5mg is equivalent to 35 drops liquid clonazepam; from the liquid clonazepam the least I can get would be 2,5x1/35=0.0714mg.

 

Thanks for the update, Rainbow. I'm glad to read you're doing well.

 

Just an FYI that if you do wish to taper more slowly, you can add the drops to water in order for it not to be so concentrated. You would then calculate how many milligrams of the drug are in each millimeter of water in order to taper. This allows you to taper as slowly as you wish. You may want to do this toward the end of your taper, since .0714 mg is sometimes too high a dose to stop. 

 

 

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No Shep, thank you for having asked me if in my country I could get 0,5mg in pill of clonazepam. Thanks to your question I began asking at the pharmacies and thanks to God I was gladly surprised there was a brand which made clonazepam pill in 0,5mg. Within 1 or 2 months I will tell you how I'm doing with the next changes of dose reduction. In November 15th I will be beguinning to take clonazepam 2mgx3/4+0,5mgx1/2. Thanks indeed Shep for your help. Kind regards.

 

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Hello. I'm rainbow. Thanks for your support. The medicines I"ve taken are:

February-March 1998 In the night 1 pill of Thiorizadine Clorhidrate plus one pill of Clobazam

Then:

April 1998-December 1999 just in the night Olanzapine (dont remeber dose), 20mgrs paroxetine, 2mgrs Clonazepam

January 2000-December 2011 just in the night 20 mg paroxetine, 2mg Clonazepam, 3mgrs Risperidone.

January 2012-July 2013 200 mgrs Quetiapine, 3mgrs Risperidone,2mg Clonazepam.

August 2013-December 2022 just in the night 3mgrs risperidone, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam

January 2023-Ocrober 2023 1.5 mgrs risperidone morning. 3mgrs risperidones, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam. (night)

Which PD should I first start to taper off with? Many thanks in advance. (Wednesday 4th October 2023)

 

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Hello Shep. I beg byour pardon for me having almost disappeared. Sorry indeed. Your help has been and is very helpful and effective for me. I was tapering from clonazepam and thanks to your help and also my saint Jesus I'm doing well with the tapering. Could I tell you about how I'm dealing with the taper after having had to postpone the decreasing of the dose for around 8 or 9 months?

 

Many thanks in advance,

 

Pablo.

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Hello. I'm rainbow. Thanks for your support. The medicines I"ve taken are:

February-March 1998 In the night 1 pill of Thiorizadine Clorhidrate plus one pill of Clobazam

Then:

April 1998-December 1999 just in the night Olanzapine (dont remeber dose), 20mgrs paroxetine, 2mgrs Clonazepam

January 2000-December 2011 just in the night 20 mg paroxetine, 2mg Clonazepam, 3mgrs Risperidone.

January 2012-July 2013 200 mgrs Quetiapine, 3mgrs Risperidone,2mg Clonazepam.

August 2013-December 2022 just in the night 3mgrs risperidone, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam

January 2023-Ocrober 2023 1.5 mgrs risperidone morning. 3mgrs risperidones, 2mgrs Clonazepam, 2mgrs flunitrazepam. (night)

Which PD should I first start to taper off with? Many thanks in advance. (Wednesday 4th October 2023)

 

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