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I have been at 3 mg Paxil (liquid compounded) for a very long time (maybe 5 yrs).    It has been working for me.

 

In May, 2022, I received some news that created high anxiety in my life.

Mid-June, 2022, I began feeling very anxious & had/have intense insomnia (sleeping only about 3 hrs/night).

These are the same symptoms I had in 2008, when I first started to taper my paxil usage (from 20 mg).

The anxiety and insomnia continue (late August 2022).

I am thinking of upping my dosage to see if this will help.   

Reading the reinstatement information, I am wondering how much to increase dosage, 3.5 mg?  4 mg?

2000 Paroxetine 20 mg.

2008 June Begin Taper reduce 2.5 mg each mth, cutting pills

          Oct Withdrawl symptoms @ 5 mg; return to 7.5

           Dec Start using liquid compounded

2009 -2022 down to 3 mg; stayed there

2022 May High Stress Event

2022 June Withdrawl Symptoms Return

2022 June Lorazepam (1 mg) 2 -3 times/week for anxiety & insomnia

2022 AUG  3 mg Paroxetine daily

2022 AUG  1 mg Lorazepam as needed

2022 AUG 20 mg Rosuvastatin

Supplements:  Vit D 1000 IU, Magnesium 250 mg, Calcium 600 mg w/800 IU Vit D, Multi-vitamin

  • ChessieCat changed the title to Cdnorthogirl: Increase dosage?
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Posted

Welcome, @Cdnorthogirl

 

I am confused. When did you last reduce Paxil? It was in 2009?

 

It is unlikely that you have withdrawal symptoms from a decrease made 13 years ago. In May or June, did you skip any doses or take any off-schedule? How old is your liquid, did it expire and lost potency?

 

Did you start taking lorazepam before or after you "began feeling very anxious & had/have intense insomnia (sleeping only about 3 hrs/night)"? Had you been using lorazepam in May?

 

Please note that we do not counsel people about increasing their drugs for therapeutic reasons. That is something you'd have to discuss with your doctor. We can help you reduce or go off your drugs.

 

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

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Probably I reduced to 3 MG about 4 yrs ago.

No, I do not skip any doses.

I take it daily at the same time (9 am) and get the prescription renewed monthly.

I received the Rx for lorazepam at the beginning of July and take it sparingly. 

I just don't know what to do with this anxiety and insomnia coming on.  I will talk to my doctor. Thank you.

 

2000 Paroxetine 20 mg.

2008 June Begin Taper reduce 2.5 mg each mth, cutting pills

          Oct Withdrawl symptoms @ 5 mg; return to 7.5

           Dec Start using liquid compounded

2009 -2022 down to 3 mg; stayed there

2022 May High Stress Event

2022 June Withdrawl Symptoms Return

2022 June Lorazepam (1 mg) 2 -3 times/week for anxiety & insomnia

2022 AUG  3 mg Paroxetine daily

2022 AUG  1 mg Lorazepam as needed

2022 AUG 20 mg Rosuvastatin

Supplements:  Vit D 1000 IU, Magnesium 250 mg, Calcium 600 mg w/800 IU Vit D, Multi-vitamin

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Posted
21 hours ago, Cdnorthogirl said:

Probably I reduced to 3 MG about 4 yrs ago.

 

Did you get withdrawal symptoms at that time?

 

22 hours ago, Altostrata said:

In May or June, did you skip any doses or take any off-schedule? How old is your liquid, did it expire and lost potency?

 

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

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Posted
4 hours ago, Altostrata said:

Did you get withdrawal symptoms at that time?

No, I did not.

 

4 hours ago, Altostrata said:

In May or June, did you skip any doses or take any off-schedule? How old is your liquid, did it expire and lost potency?

 No, I take it daily at approximately the same time (9 a.m.)   I use a compound; I take it daily; I refill it monthly; when I got the symptoms, I talked to the pharmacist; she said that there should be no problem with the Rx.   And that my symptoms, pins-and-needles, insomnia, anxiety are withdrawl symptoms.

2000 Paroxetine 20 mg.

2008 June Begin Taper reduce 2.5 mg each mth, cutting pills

          Oct Withdrawl symptoms @ 5 mg; return to 7.5

           Dec Start using liquid compounded

2009 -2022 down to 3 mg; stayed there

2022 May High Stress Event

2022 June Withdrawl Symptoms Return

2022 June Lorazepam (1 mg) 2 -3 times/week for anxiety & insomnia

2022 AUG  3 mg Paroxetine daily

2022 AUG  1 mg Lorazepam as needed

2022 AUG 20 mg Rosuvastatin

Supplements:  Vit D 1000 IU, Magnesium 250 mg, Calcium 600 mg w/800 IU Vit D, Multi-vitamin

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Posted
17 hours ago, Cdnorthogirl said:

And that my symptoms, pins-and-needles, insomnia, anxiety are withdrawl symptoms.

 

What times o'clock do you take your drugs, with their dosages? Are these symptoms better or worse at any particular times of day? How do you feel when you wake up compared to how you feel after you take paroxetine?

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

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Posted
5 hours ago, Altostrata said:

What times o'clock do you take your drugs, with their dosages?

Paroxetine:  9 am 3 mg compounded liquid.

Lorazepam:  1 mg;2 or 3 times per week to help with sleep; various times during day.

 

5 hours ago, Altostrata said:

Are these symptoms better or worse at any particular times of day?

 

Pins-and-needles:  varies throughout the day.

Insomnia:   Sleep 3 hrs some nights 5 hrs some nights; only 1 night at 7 hrs since mid-June.

Anxiety: varies throught the day and night.

 

5 hours ago, Altostrata said:

How do you feel when you wake up compared to how you feel after you take paroxetine?

 

I don't see any difference; I am anxious and tired from lack of sleep.

2000 Paroxetine 20 mg.

2008 June Begin Taper reduce 2.5 mg each mth, cutting pills

          Oct Withdrawl symptoms @ 5 mg; return to 7.5

           Dec Start using liquid compounded

2009 -2022 down to 3 mg; stayed there

2022 May High Stress Event

2022 June Withdrawl Symptoms Return

2022 June Lorazepam (1 mg) 2 -3 times/week for anxiety & insomnia

2022 AUG  3 mg Paroxetine daily

2022 AUG  1 mg Lorazepam as needed

2022 AUG 20 mg Rosuvastatin

Supplements:  Vit D 1000 IU, Magnesium 250 mg, Calcium 600 mg w/800 IU Vit D, Multi-vitamin

  • Administrator
Posted

How do you feel after you take paroxetine in the morning? Please keep daily notes of times o’clock you take your drugs, their dosages, and your symptoms throughout the day. We need to know how you feel before and after taking each drug, and your symptoms in between. Post 24 hours of notes at a time in this topic, in a simple list format with time o’clock on the left and notation (symptom or drug and dosage) on the right. This can show what your drugs are doing.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

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Posted
1 hour ago, Altostrata said:

How do you feel after you take paroxetine in the morning? 

I don't notice any change.

 

1 hour ago, Altostrata said:

Please keep daily notes

Will do.

2000 Paroxetine 20 mg.

2008 June Begin Taper reduce 2.5 mg each mth, cutting pills

          Oct Withdrawl symptoms @ 5 mg; return to 7.5

           Dec Start using liquid compounded

2009 -2022 down to 3 mg; stayed there

2022 May High Stress Event

2022 June Withdrawl Symptoms Return

2022 June Lorazepam (1 mg) 2 -3 times/week for anxiety & insomnia

2022 AUG  3 mg Paroxetine daily

2022 AUG  1 mg Lorazepam as needed

2022 AUG 20 mg Rosuvastatin

Supplements:  Vit D 1000 IU, Magnesium 250 mg, Calcium 600 mg w/800 IU Vit D, Multi-vitamin

Posted

Aug 29

4:30 am Wake up

5 am  High Anxiety/Meditate

9 am  Pins/needles in Legs

9 am Paroxetine 3 mg

10 am pins/needles gone; calm

11 am eat big breakfast; 

11 am Rosuvastatin 20 mg, Calcium 600 mg

Noon Tired & hungry

2 pm Rest but no sleep

3 - 5 pm Physical work

7 pm Eat Dinner 

7 pm  Multi-vitamin

11 pm Magnesium 250 mg, Vit D 1000 IU, Nitetime Aleve 220 mg of naproxen sodium and 25 mg of diphenhydramine hydrochloride

2:30 am Wake up

2:30 - 6  in and out of sleep (yeah!) with pins&needles but no anxious thoughts.

2000 Paroxetine 20 mg.

2008 June Begin Taper reduce 2.5 mg each mth, cutting pills

          Oct Withdrawl symptoms @ 5 mg; return to 7.5

           Dec Start using liquid compounded

2009 -2022 down to 3 mg; stayed there

2022 May High Stress Event

2022 June Withdrawl Symptoms Return

2022 June Lorazepam (1 mg) 2 -3 times/week for anxiety & insomnia

2022 AUG  3 mg Paroxetine daily

2022 AUG  1 mg Lorazepam as needed

2022 AUG 20 mg Rosuvastatin

Supplements:  Vit D 1000 IU, Magnesium 250 mg, Calcium 600 mg w/800 IU Vit D, Multi-vitamin

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Posted

When did you add rosuvastatin? Please update your signature.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

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Posted
23 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

When did you add rosuvastatin? Please update your signature.

I have been taking it all along.  Sorry!

2000 Paroxetine 20 mg.

2008 June Begin Taper reduce 2.5 mg each mth, cutting pills

          Oct Withdrawl symptoms @ 5 mg; return to 7.5

           Dec Start using liquid compounded

2009 -2022 down to 3 mg; stayed there

2022 May High Stress Event

2022 June Withdrawl Symptoms Return

2022 June Lorazepam (1 mg) 2 -3 times/week for anxiety & insomnia

2022 AUG  3 mg Paroxetine daily

2022 AUG  1 mg Lorazepam as needed

2022 AUG 20 mg Rosuvastatin

Supplements:  Vit D 1000 IU, Magnesium 250 mg, Calcium 600 mg w/800 IU Vit D, Multi-vitamin

  • Administrator
Posted

Please review adverse effects of rosuvastatin. Could this be the cause of your symptoms?

 

You didn't skip any doses in May-June, take paroxetine off-schedule, drink alcohol, or take an antibiotic, correct? Did the brand or formulation of your paroxetine change?

 

If not any of these factors, it could be you are experiencing "poop-out" from paroxetine, with what's called tolerance withdrawal.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

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Posted

August 30

6 am awake

9 am Paroxentine 3 mg

9 am – noon pins/needles

Noon  Lunch

Noon Rosuvastasin 20 mg, Calcium 600 mg

Noon – 3 pins/needles

3 – 7 no Pins/needles

7 Dinner w. Wine (last one)

7 pm Vitamin E 1000 IU and multi-vitamin

11 pm Bed Sleep till 12:30

12:30 to 1:30 am awake

1:30 am ZZquil diphenhydramine hydrochloride 50 mg

1:30 to 3:30 am sleep

3:30 am awake, read, rest, think anxious thoughts, ruminate, try to meditate

8:30 am out of bed

2000 Paroxetine 20 mg.

2008 June Begin Taper reduce 2.5 mg each mth, cutting pills

          Oct Withdrawl symptoms @ 5 mg; return to 7.5

           Dec Start using liquid compounded

2009 -2022 down to 3 mg; stayed there

2022 May High Stress Event

2022 June Withdrawl Symptoms Return

2022 June Lorazepam (1 mg) 2 -3 times/week for anxiety & insomnia

2022 AUG  3 mg Paroxetine daily

2022 AUG  1 mg Lorazepam as needed

2022 AUG 20 mg Rosuvastatin

Supplements:  Vit D 1000 IU, Magnesium 250 mg, Calcium 600 mg w/800 IU Vit D, Multi-vitamin

Posted
17 hours ago, Altostrata said:

Please review adverse effects of rosuvastatin. Could this be the cause of your symptoms?

I did not know that rosuvastasin had these side effects.   I have been taking it since the early 2000’s

17 hours ago, Altostrata said:

You didn't skip any doses in May-June, take paroxetine off-schedule, drink alcohol, or take an antibiotic, correct? Did the brand or formulation of your paroxetine change?

I did drink wine 1 X per week, during this period.   I will not drink any more.

17 hours ago, Altostrata said:

 

If not any of these factors, it could be you are experiencing "poop-out" from paroxetine, with what's called tolerance withdrawal.

Re: tolerance withdrawal:   I have been reading various articles regarding this on the website.   I am confused as to what my next step should be.

Side note:  In early May, my son let us know that he, wife, kids were moving across the continent, due to vaccine mandates here.  Created high stress in me; family doctor and counsellor say this is the cause of my anxiety, insomnia.   But, symptoms feel similar to 2008, when I first started to reduce dose.   Husband says maybe I should give it a couple of months to get used to them being gone.

My major symptom is inability to stay asleep.  I can fall asleep at night; cannot go back to sleep.   Cannot nap during the day.

2000 Paroxetine 20 mg.

2008 June Begin Taper reduce 2.5 mg each mth, cutting pills

          Oct Withdrawl symptoms @ 5 mg; return to 7.5

           Dec Start using liquid compounded

2009 -2022 down to 3 mg; stayed there

2022 May High Stress Event

2022 June Withdrawl Symptoms Return

2022 June Lorazepam (1 mg) 2 -3 times/week for anxiety & insomnia

2022 AUG  3 mg Paroxetine daily

2022 AUG  1 mg Lorazepam as needed

2022 AUG 20 mg Rosuvastatin

Supplements:  Vit D 1000 IU, Magnesium 250 mg, Calcium 600 mg w/800 IU Vit D, Multi-vitamin

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Posted
1 hour ago, Cdnorthogirl said:

I did drink wine 1 X per week, during this period.   I will not drink any more.

 

How often do you have a glass of wine, up to present? This could be the cause of your symptoms. 

 

Please continue the daily notes.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

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Posted
19 hours ago, Altostrata said:

 

How often do you have a glass of wine, up to present? This could be the cause of your symptoms. 

Only one night a week (Thursdays).   I will stop.

 

AUG 31

8:30 am  out of bed

9 am Paroxetine  3 mg

10 am Eat Rosuvastasin 20 mg

 2 pm Lunch multi vit, vit D

7 pm Dinner Calcium

10 pm Magnesium

11 pm Bed

2 am, 4 am, 6 am wake up, but back to sleep!

Day was rough; due to terrible sleep the night before, amazed I had a full night’s sleep without taking anything

2000 Paroxetine 20 mg.

2008 June Begin Taper reduce 2.5 mg each mth, cutting pills

          Oct Withdrawl symptoms @ 5 mg; return to 7.5

           Dec Start using liquid compounded

2009 -2022 down to 3 mg; stayed there

2022 May High Stress Event

2022 June Withdrawl Symptoms Return

2022 June Lorazepam (1 mg) 2 -3 times/week for anxiety & insomnia

2022 AUG  3 mg Paroxetine daily

2022 AUG  1 mg Lorazepam as needed

2022 AUG 20 mg Rosuvastatin

Supplements:  Vit D 1000 IU, Magnesium 250 mg, Calcium 600 mg w/800 IU Vit D, Multi-vitamin

  • Administrator
Posted

Please settle on a consistent drug schedule. It would be best if you took rosuvastatin in the afternoon or evening, apart from paroxetine.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

All postings © copyrighted.

Posted

September 1

8:30 am  out of bed

9:30 am Paroxetine

10:30 am Walk, read

1 pm Eat Rosuvastatin

1-3 pm Read, walk,

3 pm Multi Vitamin

6 pm Dinner, Calcium Vitamin D

10 pm Magnesium

11 -2 am Slept

2 am on Brain would not shut off

7:30 am out of bed

18 hours ago, Altostrata said:

Please settle on a consistent drug schedule. It would be best if you took rosuvastatin in the afternoon or evening, apart from paroxetine.

Start doing both today.

 

2000 Paroxetine 20 mg.

2008 June Begin Taper reduce 2.5 mg each mth, cutting pills

          Oct Withdrawl symptoms @ 5 mg; return to 7.5

           Dec Start using liquid compounded

2009 -2022 down to 3 mg; stayed there

2022 May High Stress Event

2022 June Withdrawl Symptoms Return

2022 June Lorazepam (1 mg) 2 -3 times/week for anxiety & insomnia

2022 AUG  3 mg Paroxetine daily

2022 AUG  1 mg Lorazepam as needed

2022 AUG 20 mg Rosuvastatin

Supplements:  Vit D 1000 IU, Magnesium 250 mg, Calcium 600 mg w/800 IU Vit D, Multi-vitamin

  • Administrator
Posted

Read this about improving your sleep

 

 

Tips to help sleep -- so many of us have that awful withdrawal insomnia

 

Path to Better Sleep FREE online for everyone from the US Veterans Administration

 

Music for self-care: Calms hyperalertness, anxiety, aids relaxation and sleep

 

White noise devices for sleep

 

TV or computer use in evening can disrupt sleep: Bright light signals the brain that it's daytime

 

Other than that, it does not appear that you had significant drug-related symptoms yesterday?

 

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

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Posted

Sept 2

7:30 am out of bed

8 am Pins/needles

9 am Paroxetine

10 am Eat Slight anxiety, no pin/needles

Noon Multi-vitamin, lunch

Noon – 3 pm  Clean, Read

3 pm Calcium, Pins/needles

5 pm Vit D Eat, Pin/needles, tightness in chest

7 pm Rosuvacstasin

8 pm No Pins/needles

9:30 Magneium

10:30 Nightime Aleve for unrelated aches

5 am  Slept thru till 5 am

 

18 hours ago, Altostrata said:

Other than that, it does not appear that you had significant drug-related symptoms yesterday?

 

That is true.   

2000 Paroxetine 20 mg.

2008 June Begin Taper reduce 2.5 mg each mth, cutting pills

          Oct Withdrawl symptoms @ 5 mg; return to 7.5

           Dec Start using liquid compounded

2009 -2022 down to 3 mg; stayed there

2022 May High Stress Event

2022 June Withdrawl Symptoms Return

2022 June Lorazepam (1 mg) 2 -3 times/week for anxiety & insomnia

2022 AUG  3 mg Paroxetine daily

2022 AUG  1 mg Lorazepam as needed

2022 AUG 20 mg Rosuvastatin

Supplements:  Vit D 1000 IU, Magnesium 250 mg, Calcium 600 mg w/800 IU Vit D, Multi-vitamin

Posted

Sept 3

8 am Out of Bed

8:30 am  Walk, minor Pins/needles

9 am Paroxetine

10 am very minor Pins/needles

11 am Multi-vitamin no Symptoms

1 pm 81 mg aspirin no symptoms

3 pm Calcium, eat

5 p, Vitmin D

7:45 pm Rosuvastasin Minor Pins/needles

10 pm Magnesium

1:30 am wake up, listen to guided meditation, fall asleep again

3 am wake up, harsh Pins/needles, Night Sweat no more sleep

7:30 am out of bed

2000 Paroxetine 20 mg.

2008 June Begin Taper reduce 2.5 mg each mth, cutting pills

          Oct Withdrawl symptoms @ 5 mg; return to 7.5

           Dec Start using liquid compounded

2009 -2022 down to 3 mg; stayed there

2022 May High Stress Event

2022 June Withdrawl Symptoms Return

2022 June Lorazepam (1 mg) 2 -3 times/week for anxiety & insomnia

2022 AUG  3 mg Paroxetine daily

2022 AUG  1 mg Lorazepam as needed

2022 AUG 20 mg Rosuvastatin

Supplements:  Vit D 1000 IU, Magnesium 250 mg, Calcium 600 mg w/800 IU Vit D, Multi-vitamin

  • Administrator
Posted

Did your pins and needles etc. move to the evening, after you take rosuvastatin?

 

It appears you do not have a withdrawal problem or a tapering problem. It appears you have a potential adverse reaction to rosuvastatin. We do not treat people for that here. Please talk to your doctor about it.

 

Please come back when you want to taper off a psychiatric drug.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

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Posted
28 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

Did your pins and needles etc. move to the evening, after you take rosuvastatin?

I only have 3 days (including today) that I took my rosuvastasin in the evening.     I had these same middle-of-the-night pins.needles and night sweats, the week before (when I was taking the Paroxetine and rosuvastatin together in the morning).

 

Can I continue posting my daily diary until I see my doctor (beginning of October) to see if the post-rosuvastatin pin/needles symptoms continue?

2000 Paroxetine 20 mg.

2008 June Begin Taper reduce 2.5 mg each mth, cutting pills

          Oct Withdrawl symptoms @ 5 mg; return to 7.5

           Dec Start using liquid compounded

2009 -2022 down to 3 mg; stayed there

2022 May High Stress Event

2022 June Withdrawl Symptoms Return

2022 June Lorazepam (1 mg) 2 -3 times/week for anxiety & insomnia

2022 AUG  3 mg Paroxetine daily

2022 AUG  1 mg Lorazepam as needed

2022 AUG 20 mg Rosuvastatin

Supplements:  Vit D 1000 IU, Magnesium 250 mg, Calcium 600 mg w/800 IU Vit D, Multi-vitamin

  • Administrator
Posted

As you know, we offer peer support for going off psychiatric drugs here. Sorting out people's adverse reactions to their drug cocktails including non-psychiatric drugs is not a service we offer, nor do we offer monitoring of your drug regimen -- that is your doctor's job. 

 

It's bad enough that I had to spend my unpaid time looking up "pins and needles" from rosuvastatin. To be an informed consumer, you should read up on the adverse effects of all your drugs.

 

You might keep daily notes to take to your doctor and discuss the possibilities with him or her. Please let us know when you want to go off a psychiatric drug.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

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Posted

Thank you very much for all the help you have given me.

I will talk to my doctor.

I really appreciate the work that you do, and am making a donation to the cause.

 

2000 Paroxetine 20 mg.

2008 June Begin Taper reduce 2.5 mg each mth, cutting pills

          Oct Withdrawl symptoms @ 5 mg; return to 7.5

           Dec Start using liquid compounded

2009 -2022 down to 3 mg; stayed there

2022 May High Stress Event

2022 June Withdrawl Symptoms Return

2022 June Lorazepam (1 mg) 2 -3 times/week for anxiety & insomnia

2022 AUG  3 mg Paroxetine daily

2022 AUG  1 mg Lorazepam as needed

2022 AUG 20 mg Rosuvastatin

Supplements:  Vit D 1000 IU, Magnesium 250 mg, Calcium 600 mg w/800 IU Vit D, Multi-vitamin

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Posted

Thanks so much. Sorry to turn you away, but I have my boundaries.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

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