WoundedBird: Zoloft CT, reinstated then stopped, B12 shot went wrong

[WoundedBird]

Hi I hope anybody here could help I had an adverse reaction to zoloft 5 month ago to 2 pills after cold turkey 7 month ago and decided to reinstate because of withdrawals but reaction happened and I panicked and stopped I became anhedonic with brain fog and strong dp/Dr for the last 4 month and devolped severe ocd and started researching all the time for way to recover started reading theories and obssesing about them but about a month ago I had a strong reaction to drinking cup of kefir which put me into wave it was the first time for me to go into a wave/window route because after that cup of kefir I was losing it for about a week and half where my initial symptoms worsend drastically but then experienced a 4day window they were not perfect but it was awesome feeling there was hope but after that for about about 2 weeks I had whole new symptoms which came out of nowhere [anxiety-akathsia-shaking-migranes-head pressure-nerve pain-dark depression-intrusive thoughts] always followed by 3 hour window at the end of each day where I calmed down and actually felt the anhedonia was lifting cause I was feeling again in those tiny windows but then the symptoms got worse and the windows started to become weaker and I started panicking and started obsessing again about theories I read about a sufferer that treated himself by taking b12 shots and I decided what would I lose it is just a vitamin and 2 days ago I took a b12 shot and these past 2 days were hell even worse than my intial reaction to pills extreme apathy and anhedonia returned I feel like I ruined everything and the progress I reached I am now suffering from an awful heat in my brain like it's on fire I have to constantly put my head under cold water for relief,extreme apathy+ anhedonia, awful brain fog,loss of appetite and insomnia I can't sleep and panicking and thinking of ending my life!! 

[Frogie]

@WoundedBird

 

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Because you had an adverse reaction to the Zoloft, not once, but twice, I would not try and reinstate that. You will heal, but no one knows how long it may take. Here are some success stories on members that have healed.

 

the Success Stories

 

 

 

Here is some important information about how these drugs actually work.  This explains why we get symptoms from going off of these medications:

 

How Psychiatric Drugs Remodel Your Brain

 

 

This helps you understand what withdrawal syndrome is: 

 

Video on Recovery from Psych Drugs

 

 

Stability is really important when we are tapering off psych meds.  Please read the link about stability:

 

Keep It Simple, Slow, and Stable

 

 

Why taper by 10% of my dosage?

Dr. Joseph Glenmullen's withdrawal symptom checklist

 

Anhedonia, apathy, demotivation, emotional numbness
 
How do you talk to a doctor about tapering and withdrawal?

Withdrawal Normal Description

 

 

 

B Vitamins can be very stimulating. I would not suggest taking any even by mouth.

The Windows and Waves Pattern of Stabilization

 

Waves and Windows in SSRI Withdrawal

 

 

We don't suggest supplements on here except 2 as they can be very stimulating to the nervous system. If you would like to try one, try a small amount and wait a few days before introducing the other.

 

Magnesium

Omega 3 Fish Oil

 

 

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Edited September 25, 2022 by Frogie
removed diazepam and ativan as they were not on it

[WoundedBird]

Can anybody help after the awful crash from b12 i had window for a day when symptoms eased little my inner restlesness eased and i could sit still and relax and actually enjoyed a meal with my family when i completly lost my aptite the day before but for 3 days i feel horrible my ears are clogged my insomnia got worse i can't sit still and relax i can't do anything not even go to the bathroom without my heart jumping up and down and almost faint my brain feels on fire again i keep taking cold showers to relax for few minutes my anhedonia and emotional numbness are at it's worst even tho i was having windows in those but now it's gone i only get windows from my restlessnes awuful head pressure is there hope for me did i just mess with my cns even more by kindling with that shot. I can't stop thinking about suicide or trying another medication should i do that?

[WoundedBird]

@Altostrata @brassmonkey @Frogie @getofflex

[Frogie]

@WoundedBird

 

Unfortunately, the b12 will take time to leave the system.

 

I found this by googling "how long does b12 stay in the system"

 

https://medicalweightlosscentersofamerica.com/how-long-does-a-vitamin-b12-injection-last/

 

Here some other links you may find useful.

 

Anhedonia, apathy, demotivation, emotional numbness

 

Non-drug techniques to cope with emotional symptoms

 

Non-drug treatments for restless legs

 

Sleep problems - that awful withdrawal insomnia

 

If you feel suicidal, please seek help immediately.

 

 

 

 

Edited September 25, 2022 by Frogie

[WoundedBird]

@Frogie would reinstating a small dose would be a bad idea or trying different medication?

[Frogie]

@WoundedBird

 

I would not reinstate Zoloft because you had 2 bad reactions to it. I would not try another drug right now.

 

Edited September 25, 2022 by Frogie

[WoundedBird]

@Frogie i never took anything except zoloft i don't know how other medication were put in my signature a mistake probably!

[Frogie]

@WoundedBird

 

I think time and doing non-drug coping things, showers, magnesium baths, meditation and time at this point for the b12 to get out of your system. I wouldn't start another medication at this time, unless you think it is an emergency but even then I would be hesitate if it were me.

 

I will remove the Diazepam from your page.

Edited September 25, 2022 by Frogie
removed diazepam and ativan as they were not on it

[Altostrata]

To help us out, follow these instructions Please summarize your drug and withdrawal history in your signature You may need to use a computer to do this.

 

Your bad reaction to B12 probably will take a week or so to settle out.

 

2 hours ago, WoundedBird said:

i had window for a day when symptoms eased little my inner restlesness eased and i could sit still and relax and actually enjoyed a meal with my family

 

You took too much B12 at once. After your system settles down, I suggest you start with a tiny crumb of a tablet and very gradually increase over a couple of months.

 

We are strong advocates of common sense here.

[Lilly998]

@WoundedBird

Hi Egyptian mate 💙

I am here for you if u needed any support plz don't hesitate to contact me .. I still have WD symptoms since a year and half .. there is also another girl from Egypt that I communicate wiz 

 

Stay strong dear 💙

[Lilly998]

Regarding the suicidal thoughts remember this is not ur thoughts it is neuromemotions due to severe WD 

 

U have passed long way .. keep being strong .. God will heal us for sure ❤

 

What was ur dose of Prozac ( the last dose u CTyed) and how long u have been taking ?

 

Reinstating after being 2 months off is sadly a bad idea ( here in sA they suggest no more than 1 month) and I think this was the reason that caused u adverse Rx 

But it will Pass inshallah 

[Lilly998]

Plz don't think of trying another med.. remember that what has led u to thus is actually a med 

 

I see that u have gone through Windows after kefir this is really awesome .. the feeling of window is like hope in the deep of desperation 

Sadly I haven't had that feeling since a year 

[WoundedBird]

@Lilly998 hi lilly thank you so much for your kind and postive words they truly gave me hope and the motivation to fight this and have patience 💜💜

[WoundedBird]

@Altostrata is it common for burning sensation in head ? I feel like my brain is on fire right now alongside emotional numbness i can't even cry nor react to anything is it inflammation?

[Altostrata]

On 9/25/2022 at 2:30 PM, Altostrata said:

To help us out, follow these instructions Please summarize your drug and withdrawal history in your signature You may need to use a computer to do this.

 

[WoundedBird]

On 9/27/2022 at 4:32 AM, WoundedBird said:

@Altostrata is it common for burning sensation in head ? I feel like my brain is on fire right now alongside emotional numbness i can't even cry nor react to anything is it inflammation?

 

 

 

 

[ChessieCat]

symptoms-burning-brain

 

burning-brain-and-body

[WoundedBird]

I can't do this any more i suffer from sever inner restlessness and terror with intense head pressure at front of my head and sometimes burning brain and i don't even want to start with my anhedonia i think i feel emotions i cry alot and feel love for my family but i am always in despair there no relief from this i just want my life to end i can't do it

[WoundedBird]

I love my family so much i cry everytime i think of doing something to myself because i know how much they would be hurt i don't want to hurt them this pure hell!!

[Altostrata]

Nobody seems to like these adverse drug reactions. Please do not blame yourself. Be patient and let your system slowly recover. Read

 

 

The Windows and Waves Pattern of Stabilization

 

Neuro-emotions

 

Non-drug techniques to cope with emotional symptoms

 

Easing your way into meditation for a stressed-out nervous system

 

Music for self-care: calms hyperalertness, anxiety, aids relaxation and sleep

 

Ways to cope with daily anxiety

 

Dealing With Emotional Spirals

 

Shame, guilt, regret, and self-criticism

 

Deep emotional pain and crying spells, spontaneous weeping

 

For those who are feeling desperate or suicidal

 

[Lilly998]

On 10/16/2022 at 1:05 AM, WoundedBird said:

I can't do this any more i suffer from sever inner restlessness and terror with intense head pressure at front of my head and sometimes burning brain and i don't even want to start with my anhedonia i think i feel emotions i cry alot and feel love for my family but i am always in despair there no relief from this i just want my life to end i can't do it

U gonna pass it dear .. i promise u gonna pass it like many people have passed it 

Many thousands of people was there and felt there is no hope but they waited and it have passed .. many of them never imagined they will make it but they did 

 

U are strong 

U are a believer 

God is wiz us dear he won't leave us alone 

I promise there is light at the end of tunnel 

 

 

I know it is unbearable but God doesn't give a test that is beyond our burden 

 

U are strong dear 

And we gonna write our success story so soon insha'Allah 

[WoundedBird]

@Lilly998 no no this not going anywhere almost all severe cases suffer from the head pressure and heat sennsation i am experiencing and guess what they never recover i am doomed it's obvious whish there was way to leave this world without causing trauma to anyone 

[Lilly998]

9 minutes ago, WoundedBird said:

@Lilly998 no no this not going anywhere almost all severe cases suffer from the head pressure and heat sennsation i am experiencing and guess what they never recover i am doomed it's obvious whish there was way to leave this world without causing trauma to anyone 

I my self in the beginning was having head pressure and burning sensation .. I also had pins and needles sensation in my legs 

 

I didn't heal yet but I am having small improvements and have many physical symptoms being resolved thankfully ..

Don't forget that all what we are doing is waiting .. we haven't tried any remedy/supplement and stick to it for considerable time 

Because I believe that there is a solution to this besides time 

Time is not the only healer 

[WoundedBird]

On 10/23/2022 at 8:50 AM, Lilly998 said:

I my self in the beginning was having head pressure and burning sensation .. I also had pins and needles sensation in my legs 

 

I didn't heal yet but I am having small improvements and have many physical symptoms being resolved thankfully ..

Don't forget that all what we are doing is waiting .. we haven't tried any remedy/supplement and stick to it for considerable time 

Because I believe that there is a solution to this besides time 

Time is not the only healer 

I understand but the complete worsening of my condition is not something to be postive about either i am stable or improving or atleast see windows but that's not the case how can i be postive of healing when literally severe cases that lasts for years have exactly my issues

[WoundedBird]

I suffer from these symptoms don't know how i got here
.head pressure in frontal lobe
.tinnitus
.anhedonia
.emtional numbness *sometimes i cry*
.zero libido
.low skin sensation not numb 
.extremly dry skin i have flakes all over my body
.some times sensation of burning head
.inner akathisia and terror
.contispation
.extreme fatigue
.suicidal ideation
.some times loss of appetite when symptoms flares up
.messed up hormones

[WoundedBird]

My family is pushing everyday to take meds they think it will solve everything they can't see me this way my mum cries everyday they don't accept that this could be a protracted withdrawal even i don't accept it they won't sit down and watch me die everyday they live in panic my sister told me i can't work i constantly in fear

[Roserdl]

You might want to join Baylissa Fredrick online support group compassionfocusedhealing.com.  Other people's timelines are not relevant to your story.   If you read success stories there are people healed within a couple years or less. Not everyone gets windows either.  Those aren't indicators of time-frames or outcomes.   Consider the support group.  I know it's very hard.  The mods here are going to tell you to stay steady.  Don't be at yourself up because people in severe pain will do anything to stop it.  I have many of your symptoms. I get it.  You might stabilize quicker than you think if if you give your body a chance.  I'm so sorry it's so hard.  You will get better if you can endure but I know that's hard to hear when things are so rough

  

[WoundedBird]

On 10/30/2022 at 2:13 PM, Roserdl said:

You might want to join Baylissa Fredrick online support group compassionfocusedhealing.com.  Other people's timelines are not relevant to your story.   If you read success stories there are people healed within a couple years or less. Not everyone gets windows either.  Those aren't indicators of time-frames or outcomes.   Consider the support group.  I know it's very hard.  The mods here are going to tell you to stay steady.  Don't be at yourself up because people in severe pain will do anything to stop it.  I have many of your symptoms. I get it.  You might stabilize quicker than you think if if you give your body a chance.  I'm so sorry it's so hard.  You will get better if you can endure but I know that's hard to hear when things are so rough

  

Yes thank you so much sometimes the symptoms can be indeed deblitating and make you fall into spiral of hoplesness and doom comparing yourself to everyone unfortuntally but i know i must just put foot infront of the other and wait it out untill i eventually stablize currently i am coming out of the hardest wave kinda feel decent today it is just matter of trying to not feed myself hoplesness when a wave hits and remember it's not always like this