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In 2012 I was diagnosed as having depression. Dr prescribed me seroquel. Starting dose was 25mg. After taking  this I got anger issues&  gets irritated easily.  So I tried to quit at 2015myself bt I couldn't.  But dr increased my dosage till 100mg . Then I consulted  Ayurveda hospitals but that too didn't work for me. Then upto 2019 I continued seroquel &I stopped . But I got severe withdrawal symptoms including insomnia, anxiety ,hypersensitivity etc. So I visited another psychiatrist but they gave me medicine for anxiety issues (NEXITO 10mg).  So I took for one day & didn't worked from second day, so I stopped. Again I consulted another psychiatrist and he gave me OLANZAPINE. It was effective for one day and no longer effective from the second day. Then in 2021 I reinstated seroquel 25mg but it was overdose for me that  I didn't know.Then the very Next day  seroquel 25mg was no longer effective for me so I increased my dosage to 50mg . Then after 3 days 50mg was no longer effective and I increased to 75mg. Within 2 weeks I reached upto 200mg.But still 200mg is not so effective for me but I didn't want to increase further . About before a month I stopped completely .But due to withdrawal symptoms i restarted 25mg of seroquel 1 week back but didnt feel any effects at all so i stop. I think my brain receptors are downregulated. What to do?

2012-2019 Quetiapine
18/5/2021-Nexito 10mg for 2 days 
5/8/2021-Quetiapine25mg within 2 weeks reached 200mg then tapered down to 50mg&stopped in 24/3/2022
25/3/2022 olanzapine for 2 days
27/3/2022- Quetiapine reinstate at 50mg then tapered down to zero at 20/9/2022
1/11/2022  Quetiapine reinstate 25mg no effects so stopped that day itself

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Posted (edited)

Welcome, @Sarath

 

As I understand it, you have been taking Seroquel for the better part of 10 years. When did you start taking 25mg again?

 

What are the withdrawal symptoms you experienced? What are your most prominent symptoms now.

 

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Hi,thank you for your reply.

Current symptoms

Insomnia,Mood instability,irritability,anger and memory issues,attention problem,anhedonia,low energy,depression,anxiety issues,become an introvert etc

Previous wd symptoms:hypersensitivty,allergy,insomnia,low energy,fever,hypotension,gi issues,eye sight problem,cognitive issues,fatty liver ,personality changes, anxeity etc

2012-2019 Quetiapine
18/5/2021-Nexito 10mg for 2 days 
5/8/2021-Quetiapine25mg within 2 weeks reached 200mg then tapered down to 50mg&stopped in 24/3/2022
25/3/2022 olanzapine for 2 days
27/3/2022- Quetiapine reinstate at 50mg then tapered down to zero at 20/9/2022
1/11/2022  Quetiapine reinstate 25mg no effects so stopped that day itself

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You've only been taking 25mg for 10 days, correct? Have any symptoms reduced since you started it November 1?

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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Hi,I had reinstated 25mg just for one day and stopped that day itself because i didnt have any effect of having that.

2012-2019 Quetiapine
18/5/2021-Nexito 10mg for 2 days 
5/8/2021-Quetiapine25mg within 2 weeks reached 200mg then tapered down to 50mg&stopped in 24/3/2022
25/3/2022 olanzapine for 2 days
27/3/2022- Quetiapine reinstate at 50mg then tapered down to zero at 20/9/2022
1/11/2022  Quetiapine reinstate 25mg no effects so stopped that day itself

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Posted

You would have to take the 25mg for at least several days to see what effect it has.

 

Has your symptom pattern changed over the last few days?

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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Hi, i didnt feel any effect on my body and no reduction in side effects too. 

2012-2019 Quetiapine
18/5/2021-Nexito 10mg for 2 days 
5/8/2021-Quetiapine25mg within 2 weeks reached 200mg then tapered down to 50mg&stopped in 24/3/2022
25/3/2022 olanzapine for 2 days
27/3/2022- Quetiapine reinstate at 50mg then tapered down to zero at 20/9/2022
1/11/2022  Quetiapine reinstate 25mg no effects so stopped that day itself

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Posted

Do you still have these withdrawal symptoms?

 

On 11/9/2022 at 10:33 AM, Sarath said:

Hi,thank you for your reply.

Current symptoms

Insomnia,Mood instability,irritability,anger and memory issues,attention problem,anhedonia,low energy,depression,anxiety issues,become an introvert etc

Previous wd symptoms:hypersensitivty,allergy,insomnia,low energy,fever,hypotension,gi issues,eye sight problem,cognitive issues,fatty liver ,personality changes, anxeity etc

 

Reinstatement of the drug is the only known way to reduce the withdrawal symptoms. You might find that if you took a half-tablet of 12.5mg every day, it may reduce your withdrawal symptoms. Your decision whether you want to do this or deal with withdrawal symptoms for a while.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

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Hi, Since quetiapine has no effects on me i want to stop this medication.if i continue to deal with my current symptoms without quetiapine, how long it will take to get normal?

2012-2019 Quetiapine
18/5/2021-Nexito 10mg for 2 days 
5/8/2021-Quetiapine25mg within 2 weeks reached 200mg then tapered down to 50mg&stopped in 24/3/2022
25/3/2022 olanzapine for 2 days
27/3/2022- Quetiapine reinstate at 50mg then tapered down to zero at 20/9/2022
1/11/2022  Quetiapine reinstate 25mg no effects so stopped that day itself

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Posted

That is unknown. Could be months.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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Hi,Quetiapine doesnt help with my withdrawal  symptoms especially insomnia and it doesnt have any effects on me.Is this tachyphylaxis?should i continue to take this medicine or what should i do ?

2012-2019 Quetiapine
18/5/2021-Nexito 10mg for 2 days 
5/8/2021-Quetiapine25mg within 2 weeks reached 200mg then tapered down to 50mg&stopped in 24/3/2022
25/3/2022 olanzapine for 2 days
27/3/2022- Quetiapine reinstate at 50mg then tapered down to zero at 20/9/2022
1/11/2022  Quetiapine reinstate 25mg no effects so stopped that day itself

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Posted

How long have you been taking 25mg quetiapine?

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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Hi,since November 1 

2012-2019 Quetiapine
18/5/2021-Nexito 10mg for 2 days 
5/8/2021-Quetiapine25mg within 2 weeks reached 200mg then tapered down to 50mg&stopped in 24/3/2022
25/3/2022 olanzapine for 2 days
27/3/2022- Quetiapine reinstate at 50mg then tapered down to zero at 20/9/2022
1/11/2022  Quetiapine reinstate 25mg no effects so stopped that day itself

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Posted

You have been taking 25mg quetiapine every day since November 1? How has your symptom pattern changed in the last week?

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

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Posted

No there is no change.

2012-2019 Quetiapine
18/5/2021-Nexito 10mg for 2 days 
5/8/2021-Quetiapine25mg within 2 weeks reached 200mg then tapered down to 50mg&stopped in 24/3/2022
25/3/2022 olanzapine for 2 days
27/3/2022- Quetiapine reinstate at 50mg then tapered down to zero at 20/9/2022
1/11/2022  Quetiapine reinstate 25mg no effects so stopped that day itself

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Posted

Which of these have gotten better or worse?

 

On 11/9/2022 at 10:33 AM, Sarath said:

Current symptoms

Insomnia,Mood instability,irritability,anger and memory issues,attention problem,anhedonia,low energy,depression,anxiety issues,become an introvert etc

 

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

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  • 2 months later...
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No change at all

2012-2019 Quetiapine
18/5/2021-Nexito 10mg for 2 days 
5/8/2021-Quetiapine25mg within 2 weeks reached 200mg then tapered down to 50mg&stopped in 24/3/2022
25/3/2022 olanzapine for 2 days
27/3/2022- Quetiapine reinstate at 50mg then tapered down to zero at 20/9/2022
1/11/2022  Quetiapine reinstate 25mg no effects so stopped that day itself

Posted

Its been 3months since i quit quetiapine. Still there is no change from withdrawal symptoms. Is it tachyphylaxis ? Whether i should start another drug or wait somedays and then reinstating quetiapine

2012-2019 Quetiapine
18/5/2021-Nexito 10mg for 2 days 
5/8/2021-Quetiapine25mg within 2 weeks reached 200mg then tapered down to 50mg&stopped in 24/3/2022
25/3/2022 olanzapine for 2 days
27/3/2022- Quetiapine reinstate at 50mg then tapered down to zero at 20/9/2022
1/11/2022  Quetiapine reinstate 25mg no effects so stopped that day itself

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Posted
On 11/16/2022 at 11:15 PM, Altostrata said:

Reinstatement of the drug is the only known way to reduce the withdrawal symptoms. You might find that if you took a half-tablet of 12.5mg every day, it may reduce your withdrawal symptoms. Your decision whether you want to do this or deal with withdrawal symptoms for a while.

 

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

All postings © copyrighted.

  • 2 weeks later...
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Hi,i had reinstated quetiapine for 3 days and there is no change in withdrawal symptoms.Then i consulted a psychiatrist and he prescribed me olanzapine and it reduced my withdrawal symptoms about 50% . Should i continue olanzapine or wait for few days and reinstated quetiapine?

2012-2019 Quetiapine
18/5/2021-Nexito 10mg for 2 days 
5/8/2021-Quetiapine25mg within 2 weeks reached 200mg then tapered down to 50mg&stopped in 24/3/2022
25/3/2022 olanzapine for 2 days
27/3/2022- Quetiapine reinstate at 50mg then tapered down to zero at 20/9/2022
1/11/2022  Quetiapine reinstate 25mg no effects so stopped that day itself

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Posted
55 minutes ago, Sarath said:

Hi,i had reinstated quetiapine for 3 days and there is no change in withdrawal symptoms.Then i consulted a psychiatrist and he prescribed me olanzapine and it reduced my withdrawal symptoms about 50% . Should i continue olanzapine or wait for few days and reinstated quetiapine?

 

I am not a moderator but ended up on Olanzapine after a terrible withdrawal from Latuda. How long have you been on the Olanzapine? If it's helping, I would stay on the Olanzapine, stabilize, and then begin a very slow taper of no more than 10% per month.

 

Pre- October 2022: Wellbutrin, Escitalopram, CitalopramSertraline, Adderall IR, Vyvanse, Propranolol, Buspar, Ativan, and Latuda

Oct 13, 2022 - Oct 24, 2022 and Oct 31, 2022 - Present: Zyprexa (2.5 mg).  Jan 29, 2023 = 2.375mg -> Jan 22, 2024 = 0.97mg -> Jan 14, 2025 = 0.25mg

Oct 14, 2022 - Present: Prozac (40mg) upped from 20mg on Nov 1, 2022.

Oct 31, 2022 - Present: Gabapentin (300mg 3x day) -> May 3, 2023 = 300mg 2x day ->  Jan 7, 2024 = 400mg

 

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Just popping in to say I hope you feel better soon! 

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Started on Prozac in early 2000s to treat cPTSD, been on various cocktails ever since.

2002-2004, 2017-2022: Buspar, tapered down to 0

2016-present: 100mg Seroquel for sleep -> May 2023: 90mg -> June 2023: 81mg -> September 2023: 72mg -> switched to brand name, much too strong, down to 60mg -> October 2023: 54mg -> November 2023: 50mg -> January 2024: 45mg -> April 2024: 40.5mg -> May 2024: 41mg -> June 2024: 35mg -> July 2024: 31mg -> August 2024: 28mg -> September 2024: 25mg

2016-Present: 100mg Wellbutrin SR -> January 2023: 75mg IR (37.5mg 2x a day, a mistake, don't replicate) -> February 2023 (33.75mg 2x a day) -> July 2023 (30.37mg 2x a day) -> August 2023: 25mg 2x a day -> October 2024: 22mg 2x a day

2018-present: 25mg Pristiq

2015-present: 600mg Gabapentin (200mg 3x a day) -> December 2022: 300mg Gabapentin (100mg 3x a day) per GP's recommendation after side effects -> March 2023: 90mg 3x a day (switched to liquid suspension) -> April 2023: 81mg 3x a day -> September 2023: bad generic, switched back to homemade liquid; too strong after bad generic, down to 70mg 3x a day, still bad. Adjusted slowly till at 60mg 3x a day, much better. Long hold till -> December 2023: 54mg, still feels too high after November Seroquel switch from brand name to generic, doc recommended 50mg which feels better -> January 2024: When Wellbutrin went down, Gabapentin started putting me to sleep, went down to 45mg, then 41mg to stay awake, so far so good -> February 2024: 36mg, still too high, 34mg -> March 2024: 31mg, STILL too high, 30mg down to 25mg

Supplements: Multivitamin w/magnesium, probiotics, digestive enzymes, anti-viral nitric oxide nose spray as needed

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Posted

If you feel better, we don't argue with that. What are this psychiatrist's plans for tapering olanzapine?

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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Posted

I had olanzapine for 1 week and it reduced my anxiety a little bit bt no changes in any other withdrawal  symptoms . But after 1 week  there is no effects on having olanzapine similar like qutipine .Is it tachyphylaxis ? 

2012-2019 Quetiapine
18/5/2021-Nexito 10mg for 2 days 
5/8/2021-Quetiapine25mg within 2 weeks reached 200mg then tapered down to 50mg&stopped in 24/3/2022
25/3/2022 olanzapine for 2 days
27/3/2022- Quetiapine reinstate at 50mg then tapered down to zero at 20/9/2022
1/11/2022  Quetiapine reinstate 25mg no effects so stopped that day itself

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Posted

If you are seeking additional drug treatment, please talk to your prescriber. We do not provide counseling for new drug treatment here.

 

We don't know of any miracle solution to withdrawal syndrome. Reinstatement of a low dose of the original drug is the most reliable option, but it may not immediately reverse withdrawal. As explained earlier about your attempt to reinstate quetiapine:

 

On 11/15/2022 at 11:23 PM, Altostrata said:

You would have to take the 25mg for at least several days to see what effect it has.

 

At this point, you might try reinstating 10mg quetiapine and see if that helps.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

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Posted

I had 10mg quetiapine, and it seems to be no longer effective.should i take drug holiday or what else should i do?

2012-2019 Quetiapine
18/5/2021-Nexito 10mg for 2 days 
5/8/2021-Quetiapine25mg within 2 weeks reached 200mg then tapered down to 50mg&stopped in 24/3/2022
25/3/2022 olanzapine for 2 days
27/3/2022- Quetiapine reinstate at 50mg then tapered down to zero at 20/9/2022
1/11/2022  Quetiapine reinstate 25mg no effects so stopped that day itself

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Posted
10 hours ago, Sarath said:

I had 10mg quetiapine, and it seems to be no longer effective.should i take drug holiday or what else should i do?

 

When did you take 10mg quetiapine?

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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Posted

Im taking for 3 days.

2012-2019 Quetiapine
18/5/2021-Nexito 10mg for 2 days 
5/8/2021-Quetiapine25mg within 2 weeks reached 200mg then tapered down to 50mg&stopped in 24/3/2022
25/3/2022 olanzapine for 2 days
27/3/2022- Quetiapine reinstate at 50mg then tapered down to zero at 20/9/2022
1/11/2022  Quetiapine reinstate 25mg no effects so stopped that day itself

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Posted

What do you mean, "no longer effective"?

 

On 11/2/2022 at 1:50 AM, Sarath said:

But due to withdrawal symptoms i restarted 25mg of seroquel 1 week back but didnt feel any effects at all so i stop.

 

 

What were the withdrawal symptoms you had after September 9, 2022, when you went off quetiapine again?

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

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Posted

Usually quetiapine uplift my mood and helps me to get deep sleep.Bt now i didnt have any feeling of taking it.

Actually i reinstated quitiapine so to reduce my withdrawal symptoms. But when i had taken there was no change in that and it remain the same through the period . It didnt help me in dealing with withdrawal symptoms so no effective

2012-2019 Quetiapine
18/5/2021-Nexito 10mg for 2 days 
5/8/2021-Quetiapine25mg within 2 weeks reached 200mg then tapered down to 50mg&stopped in 24/3/2022
25/3/2022 olanzapine for 2 days
27/3/2022- Quetiapine reinstate at 50mg then tapered down to zero at 20/9/2022
1/11/2022  Quetiapine reinstate 25mg no effects so stopped that day itself

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Posted
8 hours ago, Sarath said:

Actually i reinstated quitiapine so to reduce my withdrawal symptoms.

 

What were your withdrawal symptoms?

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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Posted

Insomnia,OCD,dementia,emotional blunting,feeling disconnected,Twitching,irritated,no sex drive,ED,no motivation,low energy,low mood.

2012-2019 Quetiapine
18/5/2021-Nexito 10mg for 2 days 
5/8/2021-Quetiapine25mg within 2 weeks reached 200mg then tapered down to 50mg&stopped in 24/3/2022
25/3/2022 olanzapine for 2 days
27/3/2022- Quetiapine reinstate at 50mg then tapered down to zero at 20/9/2022
1/11/2022  Quetiapine reinstate 25mg no effects so stopped that day itself

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Posted

How are you taking 10mg quetiapine? Are you using a liquid? What time o'clock do you take it?

 

How do you feel after you take it compared to how you feel before you take it?

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

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Posted

Initially i was taking it as oral tablets.Then i found it no more effective i tried it as liquid solution too.Usually i take  at 10PM but there was no effect so i take it whenever im sleepy.Sometimes i feel sleepy only at morming so i take it at that time.Initial days,i take it as a sleep aid and it helps me to sleep but now it was not effective at all.

2012-2019 Quetiapine
18/5/2021-Nexito 10mg for 2 days 
5/8/2021-Quetiapine25mg within 2 weeks reached 200mg then tapered down to 50mg&stopped in 24/3/2022
25/3/2022 olanzapine for 2 days
27/3/2022- Quetiapine reinstate at 50mg then tapered down to zero at 20/9/2022
1/11/2022  Quetiapine reinstate 25mg no effects so stopped that day itself

  • Administrator
Posted

Are you making your own liquid? How long have you been taking it as a liquid?

 

It's important that you take quetiapine at the same times each day. Inconsistent dosing might be why it doesn't "work".

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

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Posted

I dilute quetiapine tablet into a solution.

2012-2019 Quetiapine
18/5/2021-Nexito 10mg for 2 days 
5/8/2021-Quetiapine25mg within 2 weeks reached 200mg then tapered down to 50mg&stopped in 24/3/2022
25/3/2022 olanzapine for 2 days
27/3/2022- Quetiapine reinstate at 50mg then tapered down to zero at 20/9/2022
1/11/2022  Quetiapine reinstate 25mg no effects so stopped that day itself

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