Adel: Violent Symptoms after Stopping Valporate, Perphenazine and Seroquel

[Adel]

Back in February i was put on Valporate, Perphenazine Seroquel and Lithium (i never took the Lithium). After three months i abruptly discontinued and had brutal withdrawal for four weeks.

 

At this point i was only on a small dose of Seroquel and Four weeks ago i stopped taking that and reached zero psych drug level. I also had a nicotine addiction for around ten years. I chewed a pretty substantial amount of gums perhaps equal to the nicotine content of two packs of cigarettes a day and i stopped it abruptly with the seroquel. It has been three weeks of zero and i'm experiencing horrific symptoms like the first week of my anti-psychotic withdrawal. These are very scary and literally paralyzing.

 

I wonder if you can help with it. 

 

I have to tell you that for some reason i have done it without telling my parents. They still think i am taking the drugs while i flush them. I am sorry but i was not going to sign up for tardive diskinesia . I was an athlete before this and i stopped going to the gym. I also lost my hair almost all of the middle portion probably acceleration of male pattern by valporate or valporate induced alopecia or both.

 

I almost dropped out of school and it is uncertain how helpful they will be. I did research and my best guess is PAWs but i don't quite understand. I don't know how to describe this symptom but it is very physical almost like violent charges of electricity that empties my whole being of substance with the corresponding emotional pain.

 

I have never been closer to comitting suicide in my life than this afternoon. I think i am gonna do it very soon. I am very scared. I had a very bad episode around fifteen years ago and did ECT and i would say i got better. TBH i rather do ECT than taking anti-psychotics because ECT's side effects are more reversable. Thank you for your great website. 

Love

Adel

Edited July 4, 2023 by manymoretodays
name to topic title, spacing for ease of readability, moved from Success stories to Intros

[manymoretodays]

Hi Adel,  I moved you to the que awaiting approval, for new Introductions, and wanted to give you this topic now:

 

[Altostrata]

Welcome, @Adel

 

6 hours ago, Adel said:

I also had a nicotine addiction for around ten years. I chewed a pretty substantial amount of gums perhaps equal to the nicotine content of two packs of cigarettes a day and i stopped it abruptly with the seroquel. It has been three weeks of zero and i'm experiencing horrific symptoms like the first week of my anti-psychotic withdrawal. These are very scary and literally paralyzing.

 

When did you take your last dose of Seroquel? What was the dosage?

 

What are the symptoms you have now that you attribute to withdrawal?

 

To help us out, follow these instructions Please put your drug and withdrawal history in your signature You may need to use a computer to do this.

[Adel]

Hello there

 

I had horrific withdrawal symptoms the first week i abruptly stopped perphenazine (8) and valporate (45) and cut my seroquel (50) dosage in half.

 

I could not walk out of bed. I could not even watch tv or look at my phone while i was in bed. All i could think about was death, humiliation and self-injury.

 

But as i said earlier these "emotional parralelIs" accompany  distinctly physical sensations like currents of electricity my whole body responds to physically. This happens when i am half-asleep and  have to "wake myself" up with a emotional and physical shudder. I think it might have something to do with "dopamine supersensitivity" but i am not sure.

 

I have been at the zero level for four weeks now. I think my stopping of nicotine might have intensofied what appears to be a case of PAWS. These symptoms are not "relapse" as psychiatrists might suggest because i never had these. My initial symptoms were totally different. But i am sure they can weasel themselves out of it by dishonest sophistry.

 

But even if these are "relapse" i have chosen to preferably treat it by alternative means than anti-psychotics and mood stabilizers. 

 

Thank you for your help, 

 

[Altostrata]

Your symptoms sound like withdrawal symptoms.

 

This is important Please put your drug and withdrawal history in your signature 

[Adel]

5 July 2023
7:30 horrible mood right after i wake up, ate some breakfast (no coffee). 
8:30 palpitations, tightness of chest, abnormal breathing, tremor
9:30 try to read
10:30 mood improvement 
11:30 try to read
13:00 sudden low mood,  butterflies,  palpitations, tremor
13:45 ate lunch, sudden improvement 
14:00 online
15:00 errand for parent
16:00 abnormal breathing, tightness of chest, low mood, suicidal thoughts
17:30 mood improvement, watch tv
19:00 went out for a jog
20:00 feeling like a normal human being
22:00 still feeling normal watch tv

 

[Adel]

Hello there, 

I was never depressed before the two months that i was put on these drugs. The symptoms have become pretty tough. From your experience is it a good idea to start taking a small dose of Zoloft. I am thinking 12.5 miligrams? 

[Adel]

6 July 2023
4:45 woke up, horrible thoughts, missing my ex grilfriend, try to go back to sleep
6:00 fell asleep 
9:00 woke up, horrible thoughts 
10:00 hypersexuality, low mood
11:00 thoughts of self-harm, suicide
12:00 heart palpitation, abnormal breathing, low mood
13:00  low mood
14:00 ate lunch, low mood, involuntary ingestion of propranolol (10)
15:00 hot shooting pain, back of the neck, low mood, tight chest, bad breathing, feeling like i'm sinking in my bed, feeling angry-suicidal, never felt like this in my life, agressively suicidal, feeling ready to do it. 
Fall asleep and out, "electrocution" symptom, wake up with violent jerk, feel it all over, hot stiff neck. 
16:00 calmed down a bit, surf online
17:00 watch tv
19:00 went out for a jog
20:00 feel normal
21:00 intense nicotine craving, tightness of chest, bad breathing, pectoral muscle aches

[Altostrata]

Waves of withdrawal symptoms are typical. See The Windows and Waves Pattern of Stabilization

 

On 7/6/2023 at 3:49 PM, Adel said:

From your experience is it a good idea to start taking a small dose of Zoloft. I am thinking 12.5 miligrams? 

 

This is a peer support site for going off psychiatric drugs. If you want to add drugs, see your doctor. If you ever want to go off those drugs, also see your doctor. 

 

We volunteer our time here, please don't waste our time.

[Adel]

This site does not give peer-support  for going off psych drugs and my time was wasted terribly on it. 

[Altostrata]

Nobody here told you to cold-turkey your drugs.

 

What kind of support do you want regarding your withdrawal symptoms?

[Adel]

It is ok. I will figure something out. Happy Birthday. 

[Adel]

I think i misunderstood the purpose of your website or something. Doesn't matter. Sorry for bothering you. 

[Altostrata]

We don't work miracles, and we cannot comment on your starting an entirely different psychiatric drug for your problems, which you've been doing since 2008. If this is the way you want to do it, see your doctor.

[Adel]

Well i have a perscription that i flush down the toilet and i see the damned doctor once a months. 

There is this problem. I have to go to this particular doctor for staying on sick leave from school. I tried talking to her. I told her i do not like valporate and it makes me depressed. But she doubled down on it and gave me lithium instead. And well at that point i decided that the better course of action is to show up and get the letter from her in a couple of months. And i was right i lost my hair. I had to do an expensive transplant. And when she saw my scarred scalp she finally cut the valporate dose in half and doubled the lithium but that was last week and i wasnt taking anything at that point. 

My perscription includes zoloft 25 and since i was having pretty touch depressive symptoms i thought i might try taking a small dose temporarily. 

 

[Altostrata]

While you're taking psychiatric drugs, you might feel depressed or demotivated. This is an expected adverse effect of the drugs.

 

If you quit your drugs suddenly, you might feel withdrawal symptoms, "depression" among them. When people go off their drugs suddenly, withdrawal symptoms are to be expected.

 

If you want to treat whatever feelings you have with drugs, you should see a doctor. We offer peer support, we don't treat depression or anything else here.

 

We help people cope with withdrawal symptoms. Often this involves taking care of yourself while symptoms slowly go away. We cannot make the symptoms disappear.

 

Many people find these to be helpful:

Magnesium, nature's calcium channel blocker 

Omega-3 fatty acids (fish oil) 

 

You might try a low dose of one at a time to see what it does for you.