Nolita Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 (edited) Good afternoon! I have taken paroxetine from 2008 to 2016. That year my mother died and my dose was raised from 20 mg to 40 mg. As it was not enough, he switched me to venlafaxine retard. I was lowering the dose and for about a year I was taking the lowest dose, 37.5 mg. 4 months ago I began to open the capsules and lower the dose. The capsule has 80 granules and the last dose I took was 10 granules (this lasted for about a month). I stopped taking the 10 granules 15 days ago and I am increasingly anxious, impatient, irascible... I don't want to go to the psychiatrist again because he tells me that this has nothing to do with antidepressant withdrawal (Argentina). Should I start taking it and reduce the dose of 10 granules? Maybe I didn't do it right. I read Horowicz's paper and other writings. Thank you! I don't speak in english. I use a traductor. Thanks! Edited August 22, 2023 by Altostrata removed code March 2008: Paroxetine 20 mg. September 2016: venlafaxine Effexor XR 75 mg. July 2022: venlafaxine Effexor XR 37.5 mg. April 2023: 40 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. May 2023: 20 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. June 16, 2023: 15 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. July 24, 2023: 10 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. August 4, 2023: I stop medication. August 13/14, 2023 I start with anxiety, insomnia, anguish. August 19, 2023: 5 beds venlafaxine Effexor XR. August 20, 2023: 10 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. August 27, 2023: 15 beads Venlafaxine Effexor XR. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted August 22, 2023 Administrator Share Posted August 22, 2023 Hello, @Nolita It sounds like you have withdrawal from going off venlafaxine too fast. If I were you, I'd immediately start taking the 10 beads per day. Wash down with a large glass of water. Please let us know how you're doing. To help us out, follow these instructions Please summarize your drug and withdrawal history in your signature You may need to use a computer to do this. Please post only plain text in your responses. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Nolita Posted August 22, 2023 Author Share Posted August 22, 2023 Thank you!! 1 March 2008: Paroxetine 20 mg. September 2016: venlafaxine Effexor XR 75 mg. July 2022: venlafaxine Effexor XR 37.5 mg. April 2023: 40 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. May 2023: 20 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. June 16, 2023: 15 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. July 24, 2023: 10 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. August 4, 2023: I stop medication. August 13/14, 2023 I start with anxiety, insomnia, anguish. August 19, 2023: 5 beds venlafaxine Effexor XR. August 20, 2023: 10 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. August 27, 2023: 15 beads Venlafaxine Effexor XR. Link to comment
Nolita Posted August 22, 2023 Author Share Posted August 22, 2023 (edited) Good afternoon! I took paroxetine from 2008 to 2016 (20mg). In 2016 they increase the dose to 40 mg. I don't get better and they switch me to venlafaxine retard 75 mg. I kept lowering the dose. 4 months ago I started opening 37.5 capsules, lowering the quantity. 2 weeks ago I stopped taking (I stayed 15 days with 10 granules and stopped taking). I have anxiety, insomnia, anger, impatience, anguish. Awful! Today Altostrata tell me that I should go back to 10 granules. I have read that there are people who should lower 1 or two granules per month. I use traductor. My english is not good.Thank you! Edited August 22, 2023 by Nolita error ortografico March 2008: Paroxetine 20 mg. September 2016: venlafaxine Effexor XR 75 mg. July 2022: venlafaxine Effexor XR 37.5 mg. April 2023: 40 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. May 2023: 20 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. June 16, 2023: 15 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. July 24, 2023: 10 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. August 4, 2023: I stop medication. August 13/14, 2023 I start with anxiety, insomnia, anguish. August 19, 2023: 5 beds venlafaxine Effexor XR. August 20, 2023: 10 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. August 27, 2023: 15 beads Venlafaxine Effexor XR. Link to comment
Moderator FireflyFyte Posted August 24, 2023 Moderator Share Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/22/2023 at 12:19 PM, Nolita said: Good afternoon! I took paroxetine from 2008 to 2016 (20mg). In 2016 they increase the dose to 40 mg. I don't get better and they switch me to venlafaxine retard 75 mg. I kept lowering the dose. 4 months ago I started opening 37.5 capsules, lowering the quantity. 2 weeks ago I stopped taking (I stayed 15 days with 10 granules and stopped taking). I have anxiety, insomnia, anger, impatience, anguish. Awful! Today Altostrata tell me that I should go back to 10 granules. I have read that there are people who should lower 1 or two granules per month. I use traductor. My english is not good.Thank you! Nolita, I merged your separate topic here as we ask that members keep their questions under their one introductory post. Pre- October 2022: Wellbutrin, Escitalopram, Citalopram, Sertraline, Adderall IR, Vyvanse, Propranolol, Buspar, Ativan, and Latuda Oct 13, 2022 - Oct 24, 2022 and Oct 31, 2022 - Present: Zyprexa (2.5 mg). Jan 14, 2023 -> Began transition to liquid suspension. Jan 29, 2023 = 2.375mg -> Feb 12, 2023 = 2.25mg -> Feb 27, 2023 = 2.14mg -> Mar 12, 2023 = 2.025mg -> Mar 27, 2023 = 1.93mg -> Apr 10, 2023 = 1.82mg -> Apr 23, 2023 = 1.74mg -> May 7, 2023 = 1.64mg -> May 21, 2023 = 1.56mg -> June 4, 2023 = 1.48mg -> June 19, 2023 = 1.4mg -> July 2, 2023 = 1.33mg -> July 16, 2023 = 1.26mg -> July 31, 2023 = 1.2mg -> Aug 13, 2023 = 1.14mg -> Aug 27, 2023 = 1.08mg -> Sep 13, 2023 = 1.02mg -> Jan 22, 2024 = 0.97mg -> Feb 4, 2024 = 0.92mg -> Feb 19, 2024 = 0.87mg -> Mar 3, 2024 = 0.83mg -> Mar 17, 2024 = 0.78mg -> Mar 31, 2024 = 0.74mg -> Apr 14, 2024 = 0.7mg -> Apr 28, 2024 = 0.66mg -> May 12, 2024 = 0.63mg -> May 27, 2024 = 0.6mg -> June 9, 2024 = 0.57mg -> June 24, 2024 = 0.54mg -> July 6, 2024 = 0.51mg -> July 21, 2024 = 0.48mg -> Aug 6, 2024 = 0.455mg -> Aug 20, 2024 = 0.43mg -> Sep 3, 2024 = 0.41mg Oct 14, 2022 - Present: Prozac (40mg) upped from 20mg on Nov 1, 2022. Oct 31, 2022 - Present: Gabapentin (300mg 3x day) -> May 3, 2023 = 300mg 2x day -> Oct 1, 2023 = 570mg -> Oct 15, 2023 = 540mg -> Oct 29, 2023 = 510mg -> Nov 13, 2023 = 484mg -> Nov 27, 2023 = 460mg -> Dec 9, 2023 = 436mg -> Dec 24, 2023 = 414mg -> Jan 7, 2024 = 400mg Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted August 25, 2023 Administrator Share Posted August 25, 2023 @Nolita, please paste only plain text in your responses, not the formatted text from the translator. Did you take 10 beads of Effexor XR? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Nolita Posted August 25, 2023 Author Share Posted August 25, 2023 No, granules. March 2008: Paroxetine 20 mg. September 2016: venlafaxine Effexor XR 75 mg. July 2022: venlafaxine Effexor XR 37.5 mg. April 2023: 40 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. May 2023: 20 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. June 16, 2023: 15 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. July 24, 2023: 10 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. August 4, 2023: I stop medication. August 13/14, 2023 I start with anxiety, insomnia, anguish. August 19, 2023: 5 beds venlafaxine Effexor XR. August 20, 2023: 10 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. August 27, 2023: 15 beads Venlafaxine Effexor XR. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted August 26, 2023 Administrator Share Posted August 26, 2023 What do the granules look like? Did you take them? Did you feel any effect? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Nolita Posted August 26, 2023 Author Share Posted August 26, 2023 I open the venlafaxine xr 37.5 capsules. I started taking 10 granules and I'm better! March 2008: Paroxetine 20 mg. September 2016: venlafaxine Effexor XR 75 mg. July 2022: venlafaxine Effexor XR 37.5 mg. April 2023: 40 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. May 2023: 20 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. June 16, 2023: 15 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. July 24, 2023: 10 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. August 4, 2023: I stop medication. August 13/14, 2023 I start with anxiety, insomnia, anguish. August 19, 2023: 5 beds venlafaxine Effexor XR. August 20, 2023: 10 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. August 27, 2023: 15 beads Venlafaxine Effexor XR. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted August 26, 2023 Administrator Share Posted August 26, 2023 @Nolita, please paste only plain text in your responses, not the formatted text from the translator. Please post a photo of your granules. Good to hear reinstatement worked for you. You might stabilize for a month or so, then go off granule by granule later. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Nolita Posted September 4, 2023 Author Share Posted September 4, 2023 Good night. I can't stabilize. I woke up very upset. Will I have to increase the granules? It's hard to write here because I don't know english and there are no pages in Spanish that I can consult... March 2008: Paroxetine 20 mg. September 2016: venlafaxine Effexor XR 75 mg. July 2022: venlafaxine Effexor XR 37.5 mg. April 2023: 40 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. May 2023: 20 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. June 16, 2023: 15 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. July 24, 2023: 10 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. August 4, 2023: I stop medication. August 13/14, 2023 I start with anxiety, insomnia, anguish. August 19, 2023: 5 beds venlafaxine Effexor XR. August 20, 2023: 10 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. August 27, 2023: 15 beads Venlafaxine Effexor XR. Link to comment
Mentor FindRest Posted September 4, 2023 Mentor Share Posted September 4, 2023 (edited) Stabilization will likely take a few more weeks or even a month or longer. It will slowly happen. What date did you start taking the 10 granules? Do your granules look like tiny beads? Edited September 4, 2023 by FindRest 1988-1996 Various AD’s, all classifications. 1996-2019 Effexor XR 37.5mg to 150mg. Jan 2017 onward, 37.5 mg. 2019 Apr 11 - July 24: Trials of Latuda then Rexulti. CT'd off per dr. Jul 24: CT Effexor (per dr) Sep 9-19: Viibryd, CT (per dr). Sep 23-27: Trintellix. CT (per dr). Sep 28 - Oct 24: Prozac 10mg. Oct 24: Stop Prozac, began Pristiq 25mg->50->25mg. 2020 Feb 1: CT Pristiq. Feb 1: Reinstated Effexor XR (10 large beads) gradually increasing to 22 beads (15L+7M) or 9.072mgai on Mar, 2020. 2021 Started Jan w 21 beads (13L+8M) or 8.47mgai ended Dec: 17 beads (7L+9M+1S) or 6.19mgai. Severe COVID + TIA. 2022 Ended yr w 14 beads (3L+5M+5S+1XS) or 4.5mgai. Major jaw injury during year + family tragedy. 2023 Jan: 13 beads (2L+5M+5S+1XS) or 4.2mgai; Feb: 12 beads (2L+4M+5S+1XS) or 3.9mgai; Mar: 11 beads (2L+4M+4S+1XS) or 3.6mgai, Apr: 10 beads (2L+3M+4S+1XS) or 3.3mgai; Jun: 9 beads (2L+3M+3S+1XS) or 3mgai, Current: July, 2023: Effexor XR - 9 beads (2L+3M+3S+1XS) or 2.7 mgai Other current meds: Ambien 10mg 3.935mg , clonazepam .125mg .107mg, omeprazole, Synthroid, Premarin. Supplements: D3, C, probiotic, K2-MK7, Mg Glycinate Link to comment
Nolita Posted September 4, 2023 Author Share Posted September 4, 2023 (edited) Hello! Thanks for answering. August,20/2023 10 beads. August,27/2023 15 beads, (small, white. Effexor XR). I also wake up at night and it's hard for me to fall asleep again. Edited September 4, 2023 by Nolita Add information March 2008: Paroxetine 20 mg. September 2016: venlafaxine Effexor XR 75 mg. July 2022: venlafaxine Effexor XR 37.5 mg. April 2023: 40 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. May 2023: 20 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. June 16, 2023: 15 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. July 24, 2023: 10 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. August 4, 2023: I stop medication. August 13/14, 2023 I start with anxiety, insomnia, anguish. August 19, 2023: 5 beds venlafaxine Effexor XR. August 20, 2023: 10 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. August 27, 2023: 15 beads Venlafaxine Effexor XR. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted September 6, 2023 Administrator Share Posted September 6, 2023 Please be considerate, stop posting like this: On 9/4/2023 at 3:32 AM, Nolita said: Hello! Thanks for answering. August,20/2023 10 beads. August,27/2023 15 beads, (small, white. Effexor XR). I also wake up at night and it's hard for me to fall asleep again. Quote Hello! Thanks for answering. August,20/2023 10 beads. August,27/2023 15 beads, (small, white. Effexor XR). I also wake up at night and it's hard for me to fall asleep again. How has your symptom pattern changed since you increased to 15 beads? Please do not increase your dosage until you can see the full effect of what you're taking. What is your sleep pattern? How much sleep do you get now compared to when you were taking 10 beads? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Nolita Posted September 6, 2023 Author Share Posted September 6, 2023 I'm sorry I don't understand how the post should be. So I won't write so as not to cause problems. March 2008: Paroxetine 20 mg. September 2016: venlafaxine Effexor XR 75 mg. July 2022: venlafaxine Effexor XR 37.5 mg. April 2023: 40 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. May 2023: 20 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. June 16, 2023: 15 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. July 24, 2023: 10 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. August 4, 2023: I stop medication. August 13/14, 2023 I start with anxiety, insomnia, anguish. August 19, 2023: 5 beds venlafaxine Effexor XR. August 20, 2023: 10 beads venlafaxine Effexor XR. August 27, 2023: 15 beads Venlafaxine Effexor XR. Link to comment
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