Hopefulgul18 Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 (edited) Hi all, I am looking for a bit of support as I am now three weeks off of lexapro. I had been on it for about 2 years and felt it was not working for me anymore. I was tired, bloated, unmotivated and absolutely obsessed with my weight. My husband and I also want to start a family, so, I decided to taper. My dr suggested 15 and 10 EOD, then 10 every day for two weeks, then 10/5 EOD for two weeks, then 5 every day for two weeks and then 5/0 alternating. I then went to 0 and have been without it for 3 weeks. My symptoms have included panic attacks, fatigue, crying, lack of appetite, fog and vertigo. The increase in anxiety has been debilitating. I read on other platforms that getting off SSRI is just impossible- and most go back. How do I know if this is just part of the process? Do I give up? Continue on? some positives of getting off of lexapro: I have my libido again! My husband also said I am so much more like myself- he felt I was distant. any advice is so appreciated- you all are amazing. Edited October 3, 2023 by Emonda Added name to title Started lexapro in Fall of 2021– 10MG, weight gain started with low energy, introduced wellbutrin 150xl. Anxiety increased, and then increased dosage of lexapro to 15 MG. Maintained until May/June- wanted to start family weaned from wellbutrin successfully. July 2023 Began taper from lexapro: 2 weeks: 15/10 MG alternate 2 weeks: 10 MG 2 weeks: 10/5 MG alternate 2 weeks: 5 MG 2 weeks: 5 MG/0 alternate Last dose of Lexapro on 9/7/23 Link to comment
Hopefulgul18 Posted October 2, 2023 Author Share Posted October 2, 2023 (edited) Hello! I started my journey on Lexapro in Fall of 2021. At this point in time, I was very anxious, having panic attacks, and I could not enjoy any bit of life. I also had been getting married and recovering from C-DIFF. I felt like there was something so wrong with me. I never had suicidal thoughts but I was fearful that I would end up like my cousin who successfully committed suicide. My interpretation of mental health was skewed as I thought you could just "snap" as he did (there were not precursors for him, it was truly a shock). I was diagnosed with mild to moderate anxiety and mild OCD. So, I started on 10 MG of lexapro. I don't have the exact timeframe but felt super lethargic and terrible about my body. I added Wellbutrin 150 XL and increased my dosage to 20 MG, and then decreased to 15 MG. Panic deteriorated, I had some energy and I could enjoy life again. Fast forward to Jan/Feb, my husband and I wanted to start a family, I had felt very blah and couldn't even look at myself in the mirror. We decided to start titration in the Spring/early summer 2023. I successfully tapered from Wellbutrin with no issues. In July, I started my taper from 15. My schedule was as followed: - 2 weeks 15/10 MG alternate - 2 weeks 10 MG - 2 weeks 5/10 MG alternate - 2 weeks 5 MG - 2 weeks 5/0 MG - Moving forward: 0 MG. 9/7/23 was the last time I had lexapro. The first week off of it, I was surprisingly fine. It wasn't until about 2 weeks that I started to fall apart. My symptoms have varied: chest pain, panic, disequilibrium, headaches, nausea, reduced appetite, cognitive fog, poor memory, irritation and my least favorite derealization. Despite these symptoms, my libido is back, I'm starting to lose the +20 pounds I gained and my husband feels like I am a partner again/emotionally available. I am taking magnesium and catchecolacalm (I think I spelt that correctly) at night. Now I am looking for guidance. Am I relapsing? I really don't want to be on an SSRI while we try to conceive (I have a lot of issues as is with endometriosis) so I want to give the baby the best chance possible. I also just feel that the lexapro cons were outweighing the positive. But now... here I am. I am looking for some guidance on what to do. I see so many success stories on here, whereas I did not on Reddit. It was doom and gloom there! Also looking for encouragement- how do I get this tightness out of my chest? Thank you so much for your help and guidance. You are all angels on earth. Edited October 3, 2023 by FireflyFyte edited title Started lexapro in Fall of 2021– 10MG, weight gain started with low energy, introduced wellbutrin 150xl. Anxiety increased, and then increased dosage of lexapro to 15 MG. Maintained until May/June- wanted to start family weaned from wellbutrin successfully. July 2023 Began taper from lexapro: 2 weeks: 15/10 MG alternate 2 weeks: 10 MG 2 weeks: 10/5 MG alternate 2 weeks: 5 MG 2 weeks: 5 MG/0 alternate Last dose of Lexapro on 9/7/23 Link to comment
Moderator LotusRising Posted October 2, 2023 Moderator Share Posted October 2, 2023 (edited) Hi @Hopefulgul18 Welcome to SA, All of your symptoms sound like typical withdrawal symptoms. Despite what you may have read on reddit, there is no reason at all for doom and gloom You mentioned a lot of symptoms - have any of them left, or is the "tight chest" all that remains? I had a lot of chest tightness and what helped the most for me was time, but I also found hot baths and gentle chest stretches to help a little. You might find the below links helpful. What is withdrawal syndrome? About reinstating and stabilizing to reduce withdrawal symptoms The Windows and Waves Pattern of Stabilization We have a lot of info for coping with various symptoms in our Symptoms and self-care area. Also, could you help us out by including the catecholacalm in your signature, as well as any other supplements you might be taking. Please let us know if you have any further questions and post them right here in your thread. Once again, welcome! You are in the right place. LotusRising Edited October 23, 2023 by LotusRising 2003-2009 on and off various SSRI's for short periods 2010-2011 Ativan 2013-2021 ativan 1-1.5mg 10-12x/month, daily starting Oct 21 to help with buspar WD 2016 - Effexor 75mg, short-term 2021 Mar -Jun Buspar ADR at high dose, tapered 3 months Oct 22/21 - Direct switch ativan to clonazepam (don't do this) Tapered clonaz Oct/21 - Apr/23 - 0mg! "Believe that your tragedies, your losses, your sorrows, your hurt, happened for you, not to you. And I bless the thing that broke you down and cracked you open, because the world needs you open" - Rebecca Campbell *** Disclaimer: Please note, my suggestions/comments are based on my own personal experiences. Please consult a knowledgeable practitioner to discuss decisions regarding your medical care *** *** Please do not send me PM's *** Link to comment
Administrator Emonda Posted October 3, 2023 Administrator Share Posted October 3, 2023 Welcome to S.A. @Hopefulgul18 I'm sorry to hear about your experience. What you are experiencing sounds like typical withdrawal symptoms. Have a read of the WD symptom checklist to reassure yourself that it is withdrawal, not a relapse: WD symptom checklist. From personal experience, I would suggest your doctor had you taper off your AD way, way too quickly. I'm ~18 months into my taper and suspect I have another two years to go. S.A. doesn't recommend missing doses as a method of tapering either. The approach used on this site is to taper by no more than 10% of your most recent dose. The reductions get smaller and smaller each month. Have a read of this: Why taper by 10% of my dosage? Where to from here? Some people try to ride it out, and others choose to reinstate a small amount of the AD they just stopped. Reinstating works best when done close to your last dose. You stopped on 7 September, right? For those that reinstate, the idea is not to go back to the original dose, just a small enough dose to relieve the 'debilitating' symptoms you refer to. Once you stabilise on the reinstated dose, a few months later, then you can consider tapering as per the maximum 10% approach. I'll ask another moderator offline for them to chime in on their thoughts about reinstating, what a suitable amount might be, and any implications for pregnancy. In the interim, you may like to read about reinstating at the following link. Please post any updates here in your thread. It is helpful to keep everything related to your journey in one spot. You are very welcome to jump onto someone else's page and interact with them. The encouragement members give each other on this site is wonderful to see. I hope this is sufficient information to point you in the right direction. Sing out with any questions. Once again, welcome to S.A. Emonda. Please don't send me PMs. I am not a doctor. My comments are based on my personal experience with ADs and tapering. Consult your doctor about your own medical decisions. Start of taper: Jan ’22 Vortioxetine 15mg, End year 1: 4.5mg, End year 2: 2.38mg, Year 3: 8 Feb 2.19mg, 21 Mar 1.99mg, 2 May 1.83mg, 13 Jun 1.69mg, 25 Jul 1.50mg, 14 Aug 1.46mg, 3 Sep 1.43mg, 10 Sep 1.40mg, 17 Sep 1.37mg, 16 Oct 1.34mg, 23 Oct 1.32mg, 30 Oct 1.29mg, 6 Nov 1.26mg Link to comment
Hopefulgul18 Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 19 hours ago, MedRN said: You mentioned a lot of symptoms - have any of them left, or is the "tight chest" all that remains? I had a lot of chest tightness and what helped the most for me was time, but I also found hot baths and gentle chest stretches to help a little. Hi again! The symptoms kind of vary but are definitely declining slowly and steadily. I am hesitant about reinstatement because we do want to get pregnant, but in that same thought, am I going to be crazy and hormonal? I never needed SSRI, my anxiety was manageable until it wasn't. I also get anxious for the weekend and situations. For example, I am anxious that I will go to a restaurant and pass out, but have never had that (lol), it's just I'm scared to have a panic attack. How long does withdrawal last and when does the worst happen? Thank you so much! Started lexapro in Fall of 2021– 10MG, weight gain started with low energy, introduced wellbutrin 150xl. Anxiety increased, and then increased dosage of lexapro to 15 MG. Maintained until May/June- wanted to start family weaned from wellbutrin successfully. July 2023 Began taper from lexapro: 2 weeks: 15/10 MG alternate 2 weeks: 10 MG 2 weeks: 10/5 MG alternate 2 weeks: 5 MG 2 weeks: 5 MG/0 alternate Last dose of Lexapro on 9/7/23 Link to comment
Hopefulgul18 Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 Thank you so much for this-- I have read about reinstatement but am torn as I have made it this far. Has anyone tried doing something for the panic? (NOT Xanax or anything addictive) I feel like I am just waiting to have panic and then I spiral. Any tips and tricks? Started lexapro in Fall of 2021– 10MG, weight gain started with low energy, introduced wellbutrin 150xl. Anxiety increased, and then increased dosage of lexapro to 15 MG. Maintained until May/June- wanted to start family weaned from wellbutrin successfully. July 2023 Began taper from lexapro: 2 weeks: 15/10 MG alternate 2 weeks: 10 MG 2 weeks: 10/5 MG alternate 2 weeks: 5 MG 2 weeks: 5 MG/0 alternate Last dose of Lexapro on 9/7/23 Link to comment
Moderator FireflyFyte Posted October 3, 2023 Moderator Share Posted October 3, 2023 58 minutes ago, Hopefulgul18 said: How long does withdrawal last and when does the worst happen? We can't predict this as it is different for everyone. You can better understand the patterns of withdrawal by reading The Windows and Waves Pattern of Stabilization. 38 minutes ago, Hopefulgul18 said: Has anyone tried doing something for the panic? (NOT Xanax or anything addictive) We do not recommend other medications, this is something that you should discuss with your doctor. We do recommend the following supplements though - King of supplements: Omega-3 fatty acids (fish oil) Magnesium, nature's calcium channel blocker We suggest adding one at a time to ensure there are no adverse reactions. 40 minutes ago, Hopefulgul18 said: Any tips and tricks? We have a list of recommendations at Non-drug techniques to cope with emotional symptoms Pre- October 2022: Wellbutrin, Escitalopram, Citalopram, Sertraline, Adderall IR, Vyvanse, Propranolol, Buspar, Ativan, and Latuda Oct 13, 2022 - Oct 24, 2022 and Oct 31, 2022 - Present: Zyprexa (2.5 mg). Jan 14, 2023 -> Began transition to liquid suspension. Jan 29, 2023 = 2.375mg -> Feb 12, 2023 = 2.25mg -> Feb 27, 2023 = 2.14mg -> Mar 12, 2023 = 2.025mg -> Mar 27, 2023 = 1.93mg -> Apr 10, 2023 = 1.82mg -> Apr 23, 2023 = 1.74mg -> May 7, 2023 = 1.64mg -> May 21, 2023 = 1.56mg -> June 4, 2023 = 1.48mg -> June 19, 2023 = 1.4mg -> July 2, 2023 = 1.33mg -> July 16, 2023 = 1.26mg -> July 31, 2023 = 1.2mg -> Aug 13, 2023 = 1.14mg -> Aug 27, 2023 = 1.08mg -> Sep 13, 2023 = 1.02mg -> Jan 22, 2024 = 0.97mg -> Feb 4, 2024 = 0.92mg -> Feb 19, 2024 = 0.87mg -> Mar 3, 2024 = 0.83mg -> Mar 17, 2024 = 0.78mg -> Mar 31, 2024 = 0.74mg -> Apr 14, 2024 = 0.7mg -> Apr 28, 2024 = 0.66mg -> May 12, 2024 = 0.63mg -> May 27, 2024 = 0.6mg -> June 9, 2024 = 0.57mg -> June 24, 2024 = 0.54mg -> July 6, 2024 = 0.51mg -> July 21, 2024 = 0.48mg -> Aug 6, 2024 = 0.455mg -> Aug 20, 2024 = 0.43mg -> Sep 3, 2024 = 0.41mg -> Sep 17, 2024 = 0.39mg -> Oct 1, 2024 = 0.37mg -> Oct 16, 2024 = 0.35mg -> Oct 29, 2024 = 0.33mg Oct 14, 2022 - Present: Prozac (40mg) upped from 20mg on Nov 1, 2022. Oct 31, 2022 - Present: Gabapentin (300mg 3x day) -> May 3, 2023 = 300mg 2x day -> Oct 1, 2023 = 570mg -> Oct 15, 2023 = 540mg -> Oct 29, 2023 = 510mg -> Nov 13, 2023 = 484mg -> Nov 27, 2023 = 460mg -> Dec 9, 2023 = 436mg -> Dec 24, 2023 = 414mg -> Jan 7, 2024 = 400mg Link to comment
Moderator LotusRising Posted October 3, 2023 Moderator Share Posted October 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Hopefulgul18 said: I am hesitant about reinstatement because we do want to get pregnant, but in that same thought, am I going to be crazy and hormonal? Are you thinking that an SSRI would prevent you from being crazy and hormonal? Have you considered that you might want to experience the emotional ups and downs when you get pregnant? 1 hour ago, Hopefulgul18 said: I am anxious that I will go to a restaurant and pass out, but have never had that (lol), it's just I'm scared to have a panic attack. Have you ever tried CBT? It can be really helpful for these situations. Also, "The Anxiety and Phobia Workbook" is an excellent resource for overcoming anxiety/panic. I found it really helpful many years ago. Dr. Claire Weekes' book "Hope and Help for Your Nerves" is another great resource. 2003-2009 on and off various SSRI's for short periods 2010-2011 Ativan 2013-2021 ativan 1-1.5mg 10-12x/month, daily starting Oct 21 to help with buspar WD 2016 - Effexor 75mg, short-term 2021 Mar -Jun Buspar ADR at high dose, tapered 3 months Oct 22/21 - Direct switch ativan to clonazepam (don't do this) Tapered clonaz Oct/21 - Apr/23 - 0mg! "Believe that your tragedies, your losses, your sorrows, your hurt, happened for you, not to you. And I bless the thing that broke you down and cracked you open, because the world needs you open" - Rebecca Campbell *** Disclaimer: Please note, my suggestions/comments are based on my own personal experiences. Please consult a knowledgeable practitioner to discuss decisions regarding your medical care *** *** Please do not send me PM's *** Link to comment
Hopefulgul18 Posted October 5, 2023 Author Share Posted October 5, 2023 Hi- You make such a great point about pregnancy. I really should take it as is and roll with it. Week 4 into withdrawal I am slowly and steadily improving. The derealization and disequilibrium has subsided, however, in the mornings and at the end of the week I am SO anxious. Has anyone felt this?Thank you for the resources, I am going to check those out. I have done CBT, I don't know if it takes a while to work but I struggle with it... Maybe it's me? Started lexapro in Fall of 2021– 10MG, weight gain started with low energy, introduced wellbutrin 150xl. Anxiety increased, and then increased dosage of lexapro to 15 MG. Maintained until May/June- wanted to start family weaned from wellbutrin successfully. July 2023 Began taper from lexapro: 2 weeks: 15/10 MG alternate 2 weeks: 10 MG 2 weeks: 10/5 MG alternate 2 weeks: 5 MG 2 weeks: 5 MG/0 alternate Last dose of Lexapro on 9/7/23 Link to comment
Moderator LotusRising Posted October 6, 2023 Moderator Share Posted October 6, 2023 22 hours ago, Hopefulgul18 said: Week 4 into withdrawal I am slowly and steadily improving This is great to hear 22 hours ago, Hopefulgul18 said: I have done CBT, I don't know if it takes a while to work but I struggle with it... Maybe it's me? I don't think it's you. CBT and other non-drug coping strategies take time, but with practice they become more ingrained in our every day lives. Keep at it. 2003-2009 on and off various SSRI's for short periods 2010-2011 Ativan 2013-2021 ativan 1-1.5mg 10-12x/month, daily starting Oct 21 to help with buspar WD 2016 - Effexor 75mg, short-term 2021 Mar -Jun Buspar ADR at high dose, tapered 3 months Oct 22/21 - Direct switch ativan to clonazepam (don't do this) Tapered clonaz Oct/21 - Apr/23 - 0mg! "Believe that your tragedies, your losses, your sorrows, your hurt, happened for you, not to you. And I bless the thing that broke you down and cracked you open, because the world needs you open" - Rebecca Campbell *** Disclaimer: Please note, my suggestions/comments are based on my own personal experiences. Please consult a knowledgeable practitioner to discuss decisions regarding your medical care *** *** Please do not send me PM's *** Link to comment
Hopefulgul18 Posted October 15, 2023 Author Share Posted October 15, 2023 Hi, providing an update. I am on week 6 of no lexapro!! My nausea and headaches are also gone. So all that remains is panic that occurs here and there. I also sometimes feel like I can’t stop thinking about my anxiety- is that normal? I know I’m doing better, I have energy but I do feel like sometimes life isn’t real- not in the derealization way though, I can’t explain it. Is this just what it feels like to be human again? I still am doing talk therapy every other week. Im just over analyzing. Anyone have any advice? Thank you all for giving me hope and showing that meds aren’t always the answer. Started lexapro in Fall of 2021– 10MG, weight gain started with low energy, introduced wellbutrin 150xl. Anxiety increased, and then increased dosage of lexapro to 15 MG. Maintained until May/June- wanted to start family weaned from wellbutrin successfully. July 2023 Began taper from lexapro: 2 weeks: 15/10 MG alternate 2 weeks: 10 MG 2 weeks: 10/5 MG alternate 2 weeks: 5 MG 2 weeks: 5 MG/0 alternate Last dose of Lexapro on 9/7/23 Link to comment
Hopefulgul18 Posted October 22, 2023 Author Share Posted October 22, 2023 Hi all, I am 7 weeks off lexapro after two years of being on 10-15 mg and I’m struggling. I had started meds because I was in a bit of a hole with my anxiety taking over my life. I decided to stop my meds because we want to get pregnant and I’m also in a different space than I was two years ago. Tapering was done incorrectly (I have now learned as I went from 5 to 0 mg). I had a slew of symptoms from withdrawal: derealization, depression, panic attacks, dizziness. My PCP prescribed hydroxzine for panic as needed, however, it doesn’t stop my brain. Now at 7 weeks I’m left with this feeling of frustration and irritability. I can’t stop thinking about anxiety. It’s not one thought, rather general thoughts about going back to meds because I’m not “anxiety free” (unrealistic). I have a therapist and I know there are supplements such as l-theanine and ashgawanda that can help. But at what point do I admit defeat? I really don’t want to go back to meds but I also want to slow down my thoughts and just exists… is this normal? Prior to meds, I would get anxiety within situations but I didn’t think about it to the extent that I do now. It does amplify a bit on the weekends. I try to do breathing but it’s like my brain doesn’t want to slow down and the thoughts or feelings persist. I can’t describe it. Looking for positive feedback and guidance…. So many of you have done it- should I still be feeling this at 7 weeks? I do want to say everything has steadily improved, just left with the mental. Sorry for the ramble, thank you for reading and any insight! Started lexapro in Fall of 2021– 10MG, weight gain started with low energy, introduced wellbutrin 150xl. Anxiety increased, and then increased dosage of lexapro to 15 MG. Maintained until May/June- wanted to start family weaned from wellbutrin successfully. July 2023 Began taper from lexapro: 2 weeks: 15/10 MG alternate 2 weeks: 10 MG 2 weeks: 10/5 MG alternate 2 weeks: 5 MG 2 weeks: 5 MG/0 alternate Last dose of Lexapro on 9/7/23 Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted October 22, 2023 Administrator Share Posted October 22, 2023 I'm sorry that you're now dealing with withdrawal syndrome. We don't have any sure-fire remedies. Many people find fish oil and magnesium supplements helpful, see https://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/36-king-of-supplements-omega-3-fatty-acids-fish-oil/ https://survivingantidepressants.org/topic/15483-magnesium-natures-calcium-channel-blocker/ You might try a little bit of one at a time to see how it affects you. If you find withdrawal syndrome intolerable or it's getting worse, it's likely a low dose reinstatement, such as 0.5mg escitalopram or its milder sibling citalopram would help. You'd taper off by tiny amounts later. See What is withdrawal syndrome? About reinstating and stabilizing to reduce withdrawal symptoms The Windows and Waves Pattern of Stabilization Please let us know how you’re doing. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Hopefulgul18 Posted October 23, 2023 Author Share Posted October 23, 2023 At what point does withdrawal syndrome end? Started lexapro in Fall of 2021– 10MG, weight gain started with low energy, introduced wellbutrin 150xl. Anxiety increased, and then increased dosage of lexapro to 15 MG. Maintained until May/June- wanted to start family weaned from wellbutrin successfully. July 2023 Began taper from lexapro: 2 weeks: 15/10 MG alternate 2 weeks: 10 MG 2 weeks: 10/5 MG alternate 2 weeks: 5 MG 2 weeks: 5 MG/0 alternate Last dose of Lexapro on 9/7/23 Link to comment
Moderator LotusRising Posted October 23, 2023 Moderator Share Posted October 23, 2023 Unfortunately, there just isn't a way to know how long your symptoms will last, as we're all unique and have different factors influencing the healing process. Some things that can help along the way are avoiding alcohol, consuming a healthy diet, stress management and practicing good sleep hygiene. As per Alto's previous post, there are some great links in What is Withdrawal Syndrome?. Hopefully, it will view some insignt. You might also revisit the windows and waves link. I find it helpful to keep a journal of my symptoms, so I can see improvements over time. You might give that a try: Best, LotusRising 2003-2009 on and off various SSRI's for short periods 2010-2011 Ativan 2013-2021 ativan 1-1.5mg 10-12x/month, daily starting Oct 21 to help with buspar WD 2016 - Effexor 75mg, short-term 2021 Mar -Jun Buspar ADR at high dose, tapered 3 months Oct 22/21 - Direct switch ativan to clonazepam (don't do this) Tapered clonaz Oct/21 - Apr/23 - 0mg! "Believe that your tragedies, your losses, your sorrows, your hurt, happened for you, not to you. And I bless the thing that broke you down and cracked you open, because the world needs you open" - Rebecca Campbell *** Disclaimer: Please note, my suggestions/comments are based on my own personal experiences. Please consult a knowledgeable practitioner to discuss decisions regarding your medical care *** *** Please do not send me PM's *** Link to comment
Hopefulgul18 Posted November 5, 2023 Author Share Posted November 5, 2023 Hi all, I am officially 8 weeks off lexapro, and wow it has been a journey. I’ve learned that I didn’t do withdrawal correctly which led to a slew of symptoms ranging from daily panic, crying, increased ruminating thoughts, and so on. I still have ruminating thoughts- those that I feel I can’t escape. As a child, I never had anxiety. I was confident, and I miss that part of me. My anxiety and spiral was triggered by a family members suicide and a very emotionally abusive relationship. I kind of got worse after COVID and my wedding. My therapist diagnosed me with mild to moderate GAD and mild OCD. I then started lexapro and was on it for about two years. It certainly wasn’t all sunshine and rainbows. I gained weight, and felt like my shine was greatly dimmed. No libido, nothing. So I got off of it, but now, 8 weeks off, my anxiety has turned into panic. I have hydroxyzine which kind of works, but I feel like such a failure. Was getting off meds a mistake? Do meds have to be forever? What is wrong with me? Any tips and tricks? Started lexapro in Fall of 2021– 10MG, weight gain started with low energy, introduced wellbutrin 150xl. Anxiety increased, and then increased dosage of lexapro to 15 MG. Maintained until May/June- wanted to start family weaned from wellbutrin successfully. July 2023 Began taper from lexapro: 2 weeks: 15/10 MG alternate 2 weeks: 10 MG 2 weeks: 10/5 MG alternate 2 weeks: 5 MG 2 weeks: 5 MG/0 alternate Last dose of Lexapro on 9/7/23 Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus getofflex Posted November 6, 2023 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) Previous post moved to your intro topic to keep your history all in one place. Please post questions and discussion about your situation in this one thread, and do not start any new threads, to avoid confusion and duplication of efforts. Thank you. On 11/5/2023 at 6:38 AM, Hopefulgul18 said: Was getting off meds a mistake? I can only speak for myself. I firmly believe that getting off meds for me was a good thing, and not a mistake. You have only been off Lexapro for 8 weeks, and that was after a fast taper involving varying doses. Your nervous system is probably still destabilized. Our nervous systems are incredibly complex, and it takes many months, to even years, to fully recover. Not only that, you have been through some really stressful events - the suicide, an abusive relationships are things that can seriously stress even a person not in withdrawal. The keys to getting off these drugs and staying off, are time, patience, perseverance, and being willing to go through discomfort for a while, in order to have a better future. No, meds do not have to be forever, but many health care people would have you think otherwise. Have you learned about how these drugs literally change our nervous systems? It then takes a really long time for them to change back to their predrug state. How Psychiatric Drugs Remodel Your Brain This helps you understand what withdrawal syndrome is: Video on Recovery from Psych Drugs Windows and Waves Pattern of Stabilization When we get off drugs, I believe it is very important to learn non drug ways to cope with anxiety, depression, etc. And, to be truthful, some anxiety and depression are just part of life. We are humans, not robots, and it is natural to have emotional ups and downs. Learn to accept and live with this. This link has a plethora of coping techniques for various withdrawal symptoms. Non Drug Ways to Cope with Withdrawal Symptoms Edited November 6, 2023 by getofflex 1 Please do not private message me. Only tag me for urgent questions about tapering and reinstating - thank you. ***Please note this is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a doctor who understands psych meds and how to withdraw from them, if you can find one. Lexapro Started Apr 15 2010 - 10 mg; started taper August 2017, recent taper info: Apr 2 '20 0.18 mg; Jul 16 0.17 mg, Aug 23 0.16 mg, Oct 7 0.15 mg, Nov 8 - 0.14, Jan 16 '21 - 0.13, Feb 7 - 0.12, Feb 22 - 0.11, Mar 26 - 0.10, May 21 - 0.09, June 15 - 0.08 Aug 16 - 0.07, Oct 6 - 0.06, Nov 21 0.05, Dec. 17 0.04, Jan 14 '22 0.03, Feb 19 0.02, Apr 18 0.01, May 15 0.005, Jul 8, 0.00. Psych Drug Free as of July 8, 2022!! Woohoo!!! other meds: Levothyroxine 75 mg magnesium in small amounts at 4 AM, before bed suppl AM: fish oil, flax oil, vit C, vit E, multivitamin, zinc suppl 8 PM: magnesium 350 mg, extended release vitamin C, melatonin 2 mg Paxil 2002 - 2010, switched to Lexapro 2010 Trazodone 50 mg. 2002 - 2019, fast tapered in 2019 Xanax 0.5 mg as needed 2002 - 2019, up to 3x weekly Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus getofflex Posted November 6, 2023 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted November 6, 2023 I also wanted to post this for you, since you asked several times how long withdrawal would take. How Long is Withdrawal Going to Take, Factors Affecting Withdrawal 1 Please do not private message me. Only tag me for urgent questions about tapering and reinstating - thank you. ***Please note this is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a doctor who understands psych meds and how to withdraw from them, if you can find one. Lexapro Started Apr 15 2010 - 10 mg; started taper August 2017, recent taper info: Apr 2 '20 0.18 mg; Jul 16 0.17 mg, Aug 23 0.16 mg, Oct 7 0.15 mg, Nov 8 - 0.14, Jan 16 '21 - 0.13, Feb 7 - 0.12, Feb 22 - 0.11, Mar 26 - 0.10, May 21 - 0.09, June 15 - 0.08 Aug 16 - 0.07, Oct 6 - 0.06, Nov 21 0.05, Dec. 17 0.04, Jan 14 '22 0.03, Feb 19 0.02, Apr 18 0.01, May 15 0.005, Jul 8, 0.00. Psych Drug Free as of July 8, 2022!! Woohoo!!! other meds: Levothyroxine 75 mg magnesium in small amounts at 4 AM, before bed suppl AM: fish oil, flax oil, vit C, vit E, multivitamin, zinc suppl 8 PM: magnesium 350 mg, extended release vitamin C, melatonin 2 mg Paxil 2002 - 2010, switched to Lexapro 2010 Trazodone 50 mg. 2002 - 2019, fast tapered in 2019 Xanax 0.5 mg as needed 2002 - 2019, up to 3x weekly Link to comment
Hopefulgul18 Posted November 12, 2023 Author Share Posted November 12, 2023 On 11/6/2023 at 11:05 AM, getofflex said: Previous post moved to your intro topic to keep your history all in one place. Please post questions and discussion about your situation in this one thread, and do not start any new threads, to avoid confusion and duplication of efforts. Thank you. I can only speak for myself. I firmly believe that getting off meds for me was a good thing, and not a mistake. You have only been off Lexapro for 8 weeks, and that was after a fast taper involving varying doses. Your nervous system is probably still destabilized. Our nervous systems are incredibly complex, and it takes many months, to even years, to fully recover. Not only that, you have been through some really stressful events - the suicide, an abusive relationships are things that can seriously stress even a person not in withdrawal. The keys to getting off these drugs and staying off, are time, patience, perseverance, and being willing to go through discomfort for a while, in order to have a better future. No, meds do not have to be forever, but many health care people would have you think otherwise. Have you learned about how these drugs literally change our nervous systems? It then takes a really long time for them to change back to their predrug state. How Psychiatric Drugs Remodel Your Brain This helps you understand what withdrawal syndrome is: Video on Recovery from Psych Drugs Windows and Waves Pattern of Stabilization When we get off drugs, I believe it is very important to learn non drug ways to cope with anxiety, depression, etc. And, to be truthful, some anxiety and depression are just part of life. We are humans, not robots, and it is natural to have emotional ups and downs. Learn to accept and live with this. This link has a plethora of coping techniques for various withdrawal symptoms. Non Drug Ways to Cope with Withdrawal Symptoms Thank you so much for this response. I’m really struggling and my dr wants me to try Prozac to stabilize myself… does anyone know how it compares to lexapro? Will it take a while to experience relief? I feel like I failed but I had multiple panic attacks and just needed help. Started lexapro in Fall of 2021– 10MG, weight gain started with low energy, introduced wellbutrin 150xl. Anxiety increased, and then increased dosage of lexapro to 15 MG. Maintained until May/June- wanted to start family weaned from wellbutrin successfully. July 2023 Began taper from lexapro: 2 weeks: 15/10 MG alternate 2 weeks: 10 MG 2 weeks: 10/5 MG alternate 2 weeks: 5 MG 2 weeks: 5 MG/0 alternate Last dose of Lexapro on 9/7/23 Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus getofflex Posted November 12, 2023 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Hopefulgul18 said: I’m really struggling and my dr wants me to try Prozac to stabilize myself… does anyone know how it compares to lexapro? The mission of this forum is to help people taper off drugs and manage withdrawal. You will have to take this up with your doctor. Please explain what you mean by "really struggling". What symptoms are you having, and what is your symptom pattern? This forum believes that a better route would be to temporarily reinstate a small amount of Lexapro, rather than jump on another drug. But we start with a very low dose, to reduce the risk of kindling your nervous system. Many doctors are notorious for putting people on drug carousels, by putting them on one drug after another, and more often than not, it does more harm than good. But, it is your choice. Let us know what you would like to do. Edited November 12, 2023 by getofflex 1 Please do not private message me. Only tag me for urgent questions about tapering and reinstating - thank you. ***Please note this is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a doctor who understands psych meds and how to withdraw from them, if you can find one. Lexapro Started Apr 15 2010 - 10 mg; started taper August 2017, recent taper info: Apr 2 '20 0.18 mg; Jul 16 0.17 mg, Aug 23 0.16 mg, Oct 7 0.15 mg, Nov 8 - 0.14, Jan 16 '21 - 0.13, Feb 7 - 0.12, Feb 22 - 0.11, Mar 26 - 0.10, May 21 - 0.09, June 15 - 0.08 Aug 16 - 0.07, Oct 6 - 0.06, Nov 21 0.05, Dec. 17 0.04, Jan 14 '22 0.03, Feb 19 0.02, Apr 18 0.01, May 15 0.005, Jul 8, 0.00. Psych Drug Free as of July 8, 2022!! Woohoo!!! other meds: Levothyroxine 75 mg magnesium in small amounts at 4 AM, before bed suppl AM: fish oil, flax oil, vit C, vit E, multivitamin, zinc suppl 8 PM: magnesium 350 mg, extended release vitamin C, melatonin 2 mg Paxil 2002 - 2010, switched to Lexapro 2010 Trazodone 50 mg. 2002 - 2019, fast tapered in 2019 Xanax 0.5 mg as needed 2002 - 2019, up to 3x weekly Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus getofflex Posted November 12, 2023 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted November 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, Hopefulgul18 said: I feel like I failed but I had multiple panic attacks and just needed help. There are non drug ways to reduce and cope with panic attacks. Here are some. video: Claire Weekes: Managing Anxiety video: Claire Weekes on Anxiety and Panic Emotional Spirals Acknowledge Accept Float Music to Calm Anxiety Breathing Technique for Anxiety Anxiety Stuff - all kinds of stuff about anxiety attacks and things that help ... 15 hours ago, ChessieCat said: Audio: First Aid for Panic (4 minutes) Female voice - getselfhelp.co.uk Audio: First Aid for Panic (4 minutes) Male voice - getselfhelp.co.uk Meditation Please do not private message me. Only tag me for urgent questions about tapering and reinstating - thank you. ***Please note this is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a doctor who understands psych meds and how to withdraw from them, if you can find one. Lexapro Started Apr 15 2010 - 10 mg; started taper August 2017, recent taper info: Apr 2 '20 0.18 mg; Jul 16 0.17 mg, Aug 23 0.16 mg, Oct 7 0.15 mg, Nov 8 - 0.14, Jan 16 '21 - 0.13, Feb 7 - 0.12, Feb 22 - 0.11, Mar 26 - 0.10, May 21 - 0.09, June 15 - 0.08 Aug 16 - 0.07, Oct 6 - 0.06, Nov 21 0.05, Dec. 17 0.04, Jan 14 '22 0.03, Feb 19 0.02, Apr 18 0.01, May 15 0.005, Jul 8, 0.00. Psych Drug Free as of July 8, 2022!! Woohoo!!! other meds: Levothyroxine 75 mg magnesium in small amounts at 4 AM, before bed suppl AM: fish oil, flax oil, vit C, vit E, multivitamin, zinc suppl 8 PM: magnesium 350 mg, extended release vitamin C, melatonin 2 mg Paxil 2002 - 2010, switched to Lexapro 2010 Trazodone 50 mg. 2002 - 2019, fast tapered in 2019 Xanax 0.5 mg as needed 2002 - 2019, up to 3x weekly Link to comment
Hopefulgul18 Posted November 12, 2023 Author Share Posted November 12, 2023 28 minutes ago, getofflex said: There are non drug ways to reduce and cope with panic attacks. Here are some. video: Claire Weekes: Managing Anxiety video: Claire Weekes on Anxiety and Panic Emotional Spirals Acknowledge Accept Float Music to Calm Anxiety Breathing Technique for Anxiety Anxiety Stuff - all kinds of stuff about anxiety attacks and things that help ... 15 hours ago, ChessieCat said: Audio: First Aid for Panic (4 minutes) Female voice - getselfhelp.co.uk Audio: First Aid for Panic (4 minutes) Male voice - getselfhelp.co.uk Meditation Wow! I need these, thank you so much. I just have ruminating thoughts of anxiety. I’m stuck in a loop of being fearful of being anxious which then in turn makes me more anxious. I feel like I’m missing out or my life will end and I’ll have so many regrets. 1 Started lexapro in Fall of 2021– 10MG, weight gain started with low energy, introduced wellbutrin 150xl. Anxiety increased, and then increased dosage of lexapro to 15 MG. Maintained until May/June- wanted to start family weaned from wellbutrin successfully. July 2023 Began taper from lexapro: 2 weeks: 15/10 MG alternate 2 weeks: 10 MG 2 weeks: 10/5 MG alternate 2 weeks: 5 MG 2 weeks: 5 MG/0 alternate Last dose of Lexapro on 9/7/23 Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus getofflex Posted November 12, 2023 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted November 12, 2023 Claire weeks would help you then. What happens is that we get secondary anxiety about the primary anxiety and then it just spirals down and gets worse and worse. If we can get control of the secondary anxiety, it can really make it much more manageable. She has lots of resources on Amazon check them out. Please do not private message me. Only tag me for urgent questions about tapering and reinstating - thank you. ***Please note this is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a doctor who understands psych meds and how to withdraw from them, if you can find one. Lexapro Started Apr 15 2010 - 10 mg; started taper August 2017, recent taper info: Apr 2 '20 0.18 mg; Jul 16 0.17 mg, Aug 23 0.16 mg, Oct 7 0.15 mg, Nov 8 - 0.14, Jan 16 '21 - 0.13, Feb 7 - 0.12, Feb 22 - 0.11, Mar 26 - 0.10, May 21 - 0.09, June 15 - 0.08 Aug 16 - 0.07, Oct 6 - 0.06, Nov 21 0.05, Dec. 17 0.04, Jan 14 '22 0.03, Feb 19 0.02, Apr 18 0.01, May 15 0.005, Jul 8, 0.00. Psych Drug Free as of July 8, 2022!! Woohoo!!! other meds: Levothyroxine 75 mg magnesium in small amounts at 4 AM, before bed suppl AM: fish oil, flax oil, vit C, vit E, multivitamin, zinc suppl 8 PM: magnesium 350 mg, extended release vitamin C, melatonin 2 mg Paxil 2002 - 2010, switched to Lexapro 2010 Trazodone 50 mg. 2002 - 2019, fast tapered in 2019 Xanax 0.5 mg as needed 2002 - 2019, up to 3x weekly Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted November 12, 2023 Administrator Share Posted November 12, 2023 This is what we recommended earlier: On 10/22/2023 at 4:40 PM, Altostrata said: I'm sorry that you're now dealing with withdrawal syndrome. We don't have any sure-fire remedies. Many people find fish oil and magnesium supplements helpful, see https://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/36-king-of-supplements-omega-3-fatty-acids-fish-oil/ https://survivingantidepressants.org/topic/15483-magnesium-natures-calcium-channel-blocker/ You might try a little bit of one at a time to see how it affects you. If you find withdrawal syndrome intolerable or it's getting worse, it's likely a low dose reinstatement, such as 0.5mg escitalopram or its milder sibling citalopram would help. You'd taper off by tiny amounts later. See What is withdrawal syndrome? About reinstating and stabilizing to reduce withdrawal symptoms The Windows and Waves Pattern of Stabilization Please let us know how you’re doing. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
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