andy96gr Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Hello,this is my story (sorry for my English), Currently suffering a lot and don't have a good supporting system,I feel so alone and lost and don't know if this nightmare will ever end, any help appreciated. 01/2017-12/2022 ~6 Years on Generic Lexapro (5mg-20mg) because of repeataive panic attacks and anxiety that lead to depression.No idea about withdrawal,dr just said that it will be easy to stop them just like I started them .Just I have to do it slowly when I see myself better.My tapering was not tapering as i read here ,I consider it cold turkey because of wrong directionns of docs. I went from 20mg to 5mg in a short time(4-5 month) and and then 0mg. Withdrawal symptoms: 01/23-04/23 Low mood , anxiety at times, high energy, feeling uncomfortable some times.I was feeling that something is not going very well and something is coming but no idea that was from withdrawl as I thought this poison was already out of my system as I was told by doctors. 04/23-07/23 Lot more stress and anxiety, shortness of breath, higher heart rate, balance problem showed, several panic attacks, difficulties focusing, lower productivity at work as my cognitive skills started to go down,pssd.(Thought just ws high stress and anxiety who caused this maybe need some rest ,still no idea about withdrawal.) 07/23-31/09/23 The terror just started,all the above symptoms but in much more extreme which gradually worsened(I took maca for pssd for 4 days in the beginning of 07/23 possibly worsened my symptoms or just what came was supposed to happen ).In the beginning I couldn't talk , couldn't find the easiest words tos say to complete sentences.My cognitive skills just faded away (I was able to understand that because I used to be a good student at uni so I had great pc skills and was a smart guy high grades ) but my mind just stopped to cooperate.All of this gave me a lot ,a lot of stress I thought I was going insane and I just couldn't accept this.I stopped my work temporary for a month because I thought I need some rest because of anxiety i had and I just needed some rest but the worse was coming.My balance problems worsned a lot more ,and just one day I started to have a headache in back of my head ,It was like someone was burning my brain inside.Then everything went worse i started to have headaches in every part of my head , sometimes feel like there is missing part of my brain ,and i feel that parts of my brain are missing sometimes,Very sensitive to louds and sounds in general cand handle everyday sounds I feel paralyzed ,not able to communicate for a long time or focusing in the words someone says ro me because headache starts and just cant handle (it is like it triggers stressors and if i continue to hear or focus in conversations after the pain this goes me to a panic attack )The same happens if i see a vidio for lot of minutes ,feell like my brain is very sensitive maybe due to the fact that i had so much stress about what was happening.I found about this group accidentally as I was in 2psy docs who suggested that i had relapsing and wante ro give me cocktail of other drugs . I suspected that and started the searching on internet.In the beginning i found a group of pssd because this is a problem I have since my CT,and wanted to know about these other drugs they prescribed me ,then I saw @pugsuccess story which lead me to this amazing forum.And reading here about symptoms and everything about withdrawals things started to make sense ,but I was in shock (I found SA0 12/09/23).I didn't started to get these drugs they prescribed me but Im suffering a lot these days.Worth to mention that when my headache started I had a lot of pain on my brain (I thought I was going insane minute to minute )and I wa unable to tolerate it.My family went me In ER and they gave me sth no idea what it was however they told me to take Lyrica(pregbalin) and see how things will go.I took lyrica next day (50mg) and it helped me a lot to be honest my pain reduced and since then I continue it ,but im afraid as it is also addictive and dont know really in this moment it helps or puts more fuel to the fire,but im afraid to take it off because the terror I saw when i went in ER was out of this world.I don't work anymore as I am not able to concentrate on pc and my cognitive impairment is very low . I live with my family this moment as not able to take care by myself but they don't understand me they think that everything is just in my head and they expectthis to pass day by day putting some sort of pressure on me ,also my friends dont understand me,thay just have not ever heard about everything i say so doesn't make sanse ,Im not not able to seee them a lot because I cant handle conversation for lots o minutes with pepople it trigers me that pain in my head .I don't know what to do anymore,I cant go back to ssri the stole my feelings for years ,but im suffering a lot now and 2 month ( 9 months off srri).Apart from the fact that i dont function normally because of my brain I also have lots of stress daily which also cause high heart rate . My worts days are usually I'm bedridden and just a step away to go in ER(lot of pain inside in my soul like is screaming so loudly but only me can hear it , fatigue,not able to communicate, sensitive to light and sound,and dont know if i will make next hour or not).It goes after 6-7 hours some times takes all day and night but freaks me out.Some moments of the day I feel ok but ar less than the waves. My sleep is (4-5 hours per night) except from some days that I was no able to sleep at all .Try to eat 3xday even though some days i don't have appetite.Exerxice whenever Im able and not beddriden usually (30 -50min biking ride or walking/jogging ~8000steps )5/7 days a week . Im trying to fight this but in we deepest waves i feel so bad ,so weak and not imaggine to tolerate this for much time .I don't know if anything i said makes any sense because my symptoms are a little different from others with lexapro.I just want to ask the moderators if is a good idea to continue with lyrica or not? And what is the best thing to do when acute withdrawal hits because I cannot know if there will be strongers acute waves than these who passed just in case to be prepared.Would be a good idea any benzo or any other way either way? Any support and suggestions appreciated. #Thank you for reading my story.🙂 •01/2017-12/2022 ~6 Years on Generic Escilitopram (5mg-20mg) because of repetitive panic attacks and anxiety that lead to depression. My tapering was not tapering as I read here. I consider it CT because of wrong directions of docs, I went from 20mg to 5mg in a short amount of time and then jumped to 0mg. •01/07/23 Took maca root powder for pssd for 4 days only which I think worsened my symptoms a lot.(Not sure if that was the cause or what came was supposed to come) •15/07/23-01/08/23 Prebagalin) 2x50mg 01/08/23 - 05/08/23. 75x50mg 06/08/23 - 18/08/23 2x75mg an then reduced 19/09/23 - 23-09 to 75x50mg 24/09/23 - 1/12/23 2x50mg. 1/12/22- ongoing 2x45mg( on first week of December happened a mistake in liquid I made and took 4 times double dose ) 15/01/24 - ongoing occasional 5mg diazepam for anxiety. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted October 5, 2023 Administrator Share Posted October 5, 2023 Welcome, @andy96gr Were you taking Lexapro or Celexa? Was your last dose in December 2022? How has your symptom pattern changed since June? What effect do you feel from taking pregabalin? What times o'clock do you take your drugs, with their dosages? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
andy96gr Posted October 5, 2023 Author Share Posted October 5, 2023 Hello Altrostata,thank you for answering.I was taking escilitopram (generic) of lexapro.Last dose 31/12/22.Well is hard to explain but I feel that headaches tension headaches and burning sensation in the back of my head has been improved slightly so I do not suffer the same but is a lot to be done yet . There is big problem with concentration and balance and cognitive part still is bad. I have all these symptoms back in a very stressful day or in a wave lets say.But my really problem now is anxiety it is really very high most days of the week that i'm not able to control it .Sometime heart rate while staying still is 100 per minute and intrusive thoughts are there almost all day.So let's say that this moment because for the future we cannot now is that there is a improve in physical part but the psychological is worse.I feel that I am very sensitive about everything now ,even when door ringbell makes me anxius and haert rate increases.Well about pregabalin,it was given to me because I was in an ER,I couldn't even talk then because of the pain in my head and the tension I had.So it helped me with reducing the pain I felt immediately (nex day after taking first pill).This moment I don't know if Pregabalin plays any role in my system . I take 2x50mg at 10 a clock approximately.I asked a psychiatrist about this and he just said you can stop it (CT)without any problem,while a neurologist said that I can reduce it 25 mg each 4 weaks and then from 25mg jump to 0.Of course im afraid to do that ,im stick now at 2x50mg and dont know if reducing it would make my symptoms worse.What ia your suggestion about pregabalin (How to taper it and when) or anything I can do to reduce my symptoms in general because i suffer so much some times and don't know how to manage , I'm afraid that worse waves will come and won't be able to handle. Thank you for your answering @Altostrata. •01/2017-12/2022 ~6 Years on Generic Escilitopram (5mg-20mg) because of repetitive panic attacks and anxiety that lead to depression. My tapering was not tapering as I read here. I consider it CT because of wrong directions of docs, I went from 20mg to 5mg in a short amount of time and then jumped to 0mg. •01/07/23 Took maca root powder for pssd for 4 days only which I think worsened my symptoms a lot.(Not sure if that was the cause or what came was supposed to come) •15/07/23-01/08/23 Prebagalin) 2x50mg 01/08/23 - 05/08/23. 75x50mg 06/08/23 - 18/08/23 2x75mg an then reduced 19/09/23 - 23-09 to 75x50mg 24/09/23 - 1/12/23 2x50mg. 1/12/22- ongoing 2x45mg( on first week of December happened a mistake in liquid I made and took 4 times double dose ) 15/01/24 - ongoing occasional 5mg diazepam for anxiety. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted October 5, 2023 Administrator Share Posted October 5, 2023 No, you will need to taper pregabalin. What times o'clock do you take your drugs, with their dosages? Be very careful to take them at the same time each day. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
andy96gr Posted October 6, 2023 Author Share Posted October 6, 2023 23 hours ago, andy96gr said: moment I don't know if Pregabalin plays any role in my system . I take 2x50mg at 10 a clock approximately.I asked a psychiatrist about this and he just said you can stop it (CT)without any problem,while a neurologist said that I can reduce it by 25 mg (in a 4 days) and then from 25mg jump to 0.Of course I'm afraid to do that because Im withdrawal of lexapro but in other hand i dont want to be a lot in this drug and create depence on it because 10% rule while im only 2 month on this might make me stay more than a year on this drug so I don't want this.Please @Altostratagive your suggestion whenever you are able. •01/2017-12/2022 ~6 Years on Generic Escilitopram (5mg-20mg) because of repetitive panic attacks and anxiety that lead to depression. My tapering was not tapering as I read here. I consider it CT because of wrong directions of docs, I went from 20mg to 5mg in a short amount of time and then jumped to 0mg. •01/07/23 Took maca root powder for pssd for 4 days only which I think worsened my symptoms a lot.(Not sure if that was the cause or what came was supposed to come) •15/07/23-01/08/23 Prebagalin) 2x50mg 01/08/23 - 05/08/23. 75x50mg 06/08/23 - 18/08/23 2x75mg an then reduced 19/09/23 - 23-09 to 75x50mg 24/09/23 - 1/12/23 2x50mg. 1/12/22- ongoing 2x45mg( on first week of December happened a mistake in liquid I made and took 4 times double dose ) 15/01/24 - ongoing occasional 5mg diazepam for anxiety. Link to comment
andy96gr Posted October 6, 2023 Author Share Posted October 6, 2023 @Altostrata,is a good idea to taper it 10% in 2 weeks?Also dont know ho to doo this stuff,can i just weight the amount of power and put in a glass a water and drink it? •01/2017-12/2022 ~6 Years on Generic Escilitopram (5mg-20mg) because of repetitive panic attacks and anxiety that lead to depression. My tapering was not tapering as I read here. I consider it CT because of wrong directions of docs, I went from 20mg to 5mg in a short amount of time and then jumped to 0mg. •01/07/23 Took maca root powder for pssd for 4 days only which I think worsened my symptoms a lot.(Not sure if that was the cause or what came was supposed to come) •15/07/23-01/08/23 Prebagalin) 2x50mg 01/08/23 - 05/08/23. 75x50mg 06/08/23 - 18/08/23 2x75mg an then reduced 19/09/23 - 23-09 to 75x50mg 24/09/23 - 1/12/23 2x50mg. 1/12/22- ongoing 2x45mg( on first week of December happened a mistake in liquid I made and took 4 times double dose ) 15/01/24 - ongoing occasional 5mg diazepam for anxiety. Link to comment
andy96gr Posted October 6, 2023 Author Share Posted October 6, 2023 (edited) Pregabalin(Lyrica) tapering Hello all, I'm in withdrawal of escilitopram (9month off) and started Lyrica 1.5 months ago because of my tension headaches that made me go ER. I want to get rid off this drug after searching info about this and how addictive it can be ,dosc( 2 psychiatrist said that I can CT it without problem) lol.My neurologist said I can taper it 25 mg each 4 days.I went from 2x50mg daily to 2x75mg for 10 days and after that decided to go down to 2x50mg in mater of 10 days. I know that the most save option is 10%taper but this means that I should be in this drug for more than a year while tapering and that would be a problem because I have already have lost 12 kg in a month (dont know if it is from lyrica or of my high anxiety from withdrawal)but in general i feel that this thing is doing bad on me.My headaches are much better now so i don't have any reason to take it at all but the problem is tapering. Did anyone else had any experience with lyrica like me ? Any suggestion? Edited October 6, 2023 by manymoretodays name to topic title, merged with first Introduction, title added •01/2017-12/2022 ~6 Years on Generic Escilitopram (5mg-20mg) because of repetitive panic attacks and anxiety that lead to depression. My tapering was not tapering as I read here. I consider it CT because of wrong directions of docs, I went from 20mg to 5mg in a short amount of time and then jumped to 0mg. •01/07/23 Took maca root powder for pssd for 4 days only which I think worsened my symptoms a lot.(Not sure if that was the cause or what came was supposed to come) •15/07/23-01/08/23 Prebagalin) 2x50mg 01/08/23 - 05/08/23. 75x50mg 06/08/23 - 18/08/23 2x75mg an then reduced 19/09/23 - 23-09 to 75x50mg 24/09/23 - 1/12/23 2x50mg. 1/12/22- ongoing 2x45mg( on first week of December happened a mistake in liquid I made and took 4 times double dose ) 15/01/24 - ongoing occasional 5mg diazepam for anxiety. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted October 6, 2023 Administrator Share Posted October 6, 2023 Please do not change your drugs. Do your symptoms follow any daily pattern? Please keep daily notes of times of day you take your drugs, their dosages, and your symptoms throughout the day. Post 24 hours of notes at a time in this topic, in a simple list format with time of day on the left and notation (symptom or drug and dosage) on the right. We need to know how you feel before and after each dose. This will help figure out next steps. 1 This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
andy96gr Posted October 7, 2023 Author Share Posted October 7, 2023 Hello again @Altostrata. I'm really having a bad day and I'm afraid that worse will come and i won't be able to catch the phone and write again here.I will do that you asked for but really don't know how things will go.My main problem these last 6days is that i cannot sleep don't know if it is from reducing lyrica from 150mg daily to 100mg daily in 10 days,from high anxiety that i have feom this stuff going on ,or from withdrawal from escilitopram.But just I cant sleep and i feel not tired at all and that makes everything else worse . Seeing the symptoms I have written today and which I remeber have these last days after taking the lyrica is that . 1)I have almost 24/7 tinittus 2) Palpitations almost all day 3)Lot of worry , anxiety, crying spells. 4) Nausea ,I forced to ate my breakfast today was almost vomiting. 5)Dry mouth 6)Tachycardia 7)Lot of tension in my head ,I feel my head beating like my hart. 8) Blurry vision 9) Balance problem and concentrating problems. 10) Insomnia,I cant sleep and no feel tired ,but this thing if continues I will be destroyed because cannot function normally and don't know how things will go. 11) Inability to percive the time passing 12)when i feel asleep feel like musqitos are bitting all my body for some minites and that happens after an hour after taking lyrica. And things like cognitive impairment problems that I have before starting lyrica ,no feellings ,pssd, negative thoughts taht have been increased lately, I wanted to know which are the best options we have here in these conditions because I am afraid i will end in hospital and then everything could be worse because they may put me in benzos or other antidepressant starting in high doses and other stuff that may destroy me completely. If is there to start any antidepressant again which one would recommend and in which starting dose?Had seen something about cilitopram but cant remember. What about Lyrica?,what are the options I know the 10% rule but it would take 2 years to take off this poison which i have only 50 days on it .And to be honest this is why my anxiety is so bad because this about Lyrica has made me crazy thinking that i should take this poioson for 2 years to taper and don't even know when will be better from withdrawal from escilitopram. And also for sleep I want to try melatonin 1mg but in pharmacies here I cannot find it as only melatonin.there may be with other indigrients like chamomile and pasiflore would be a good idea to try ? Sorry to disturb again but I feel very bad these daus and Im afraid. •01/2017-12/2022 ~6 Years on Generic Escilitopram (5mg-20mg) because of repetitive panic attacks and anxiety that lead to depression. My tapering was not tapering as I read here. I consider it CT because of wrong directions of docs, I went from 20mg to 5mg in a short amount of time and then jumped to 0mg. •01/07/23 Took maca root powder for pssd for 4 days only which I think worsened my symptoms a lot.(Not sure if that was the cause or what came was supposed to come) •15/07/23-01/08/23 Prebagalin) 2x50mg 01/08/23 - 05/08/23. 75x50mg 06/08/23 - 18/08/23 2x75mg an then reduced 19/09/23 - 23-09 to 75x50mg 24/09/23 - 1/12/23 2x50mg. 1/12/22- ongoing 2x45mg( on first week of December happened a mistake in liquid I made and took 4 times double dose ) 15/01/24 - ongoing occasional 5mg diazepam for anxiety. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted October 7, 2023 Administrator Share Posted October 7, 2023 Please keep daily notes of times of day you take your drugs, their dosages, and your symptoms throughout the day. Post 24 hours of notes at a time in this topic, in a simple list format . Thank you. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
andy96gr Posted October 8, 2023 Author Share Posted October 8, 2023 Hello again @Altostrata.I Im really scared today as my to knees are very weak and i can't barely stand.Also I had an tremendous pain in both two legs from knees and down in 03/10/23 almos all night and I don't know what it can be ? An adverse affect or from withdrawal.Has you hear anything like this before? •01/2017-12/2022 ~6 Years on Generic Escilitopram (5mg-20mg) because of repetitive panic attacks and anxiety that lead to depression. My tapering was not tapering as I read here. I consider it CT because of wrong directions of docs, I went from 20mg to 5mg in a short amount of time and then jumped to 0mg. •01/07/23 Took maca root powder for pssd for 4 days only which I think worsened my symptoms a lot.(Not sure if that was the cause or what came was supposed to come) •15/07/23-01/08/23 Prebagalin) 2x50mg 01/08/23 - 05/08/23. 75x50mg 06/08/23 - 18/08/23 2x75mg an then reduced 19/09/23 - 23-09 to 75x50mg 24/09/23 - 1/12/23 2x50mg. 1/12/22- ongoing 2x45mg( on first week of December happened a mistake in liquid I made and took 4 times double dose ) 15/01/24 - ongoing occasional 5mg diazepam for anxiety. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted October 8, 2023 Administrator Share Posted October 8, 2023 Do you do a lot of sitting? What do you do for exercise? On 10/7/2023 at 10:30 AM, Altostrata said: Please keep daily notes of times of day you take your drugs, their dosages, and your symptoms throughout the day. Post 24 hours of notes at a time in this topic, in a simple list format . Thank you. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus manymoretodays Posted October 10, 2023 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted October 10, 2023 Hi andy96gr, What was the month and day that you went from 150 mg of Lyrica to 100 mg of Lyrica? Overall......do you feel like your symptoms have worsened on the Lyrica? As I know you had lot's of symptoms from your fast taper, or more abrupt WD(withdrawal) from escitalopram. Try not to think that going to the hospital, and trying even more drugs(which would likely be the result of that) is your only answer/solution. What can you do now? Are you eating? Preparing meals? Showering or bathing and changing clothes? Getting out at all? Talking to someone? If sleep just isn't coming, do try to just rest in bed, in the dark for several hours. If your thoughts are too much then use some background noise, t.v. is okay as long as it isn't anything distressing. More tips around insomnia: Tips to help sleep: so many of us have that awful withdrawal insomnia And we saw your list of symptoms......pretty intense when there are so many, most do sound like WD, and then perhaps the Lyrica has some adversities too. The below are common, believe or not.......WD symptoms........you'll see many of yours there. Also sometimes seen as adverse effects of drugs too, or side effects. We can get into more on managing them too, if need be. You'll find topics on many of them in our Symptoms and Self Care section. You're not alone. On 10/1/2023 at 5:31 PM, Emonda said: Here is a screenshot of the symptom checklist link I posted above from Dr Glenmullen: Next......here's a sample note, as to what we'd love to see, only put your own stuff in. Times on the left. Your drug by name and dose to the right of the time. More times both before and after your drug, with symptoms described when they occur. Put in any other supplements as well that you might take. That will help us make sense of what is happening now. You can do it! Post the first 24 hours once you have it done, right in a reply. Note the date at the top. Example: DATE: 6 a.m. Woke with anxiety 8 a.m. Took 2.5mg Lexapro 10 a.m. Stomach is upset 10:30 a.m. Ate breakfast 11:35 a.m. Got a headache, lasted one hour 12:35 p.m. Ate lunch 4 p.m. Feel a bit better 5 p.m. Took 2.5mg Lexapro 6 p.m. Ate dinner 9:20 p.m. Headache 10:00 p.m. Took 50mg Seroquel 10:20 p.m. Feeling dizzy 10:30 p.m. Fell asleep 2:30 a.m. Woke, took 3mg Ambien (NOT "took 1/2 tablet Ambien") 2:45 a.m. Fell asleep 4:30 a.m. Woke but got back to sleep Okay, better days are coming andy96gr. L, P, H, and G, mmt 1 Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks. Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022, and again finally 5/25/24. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment
andy96gr Posted October 10, 2023 Author Share Posted October 10, 2023 I'm not doing well.I was yesterday to ER for heart problems I fealt a pain in my chest and almost fainted.I haven't been able to take notes as because I'm suffering so much. The left me go home as didn't find anything in my heart,did all the blody check test and everything.But my burning joint continues and is going worse as I now i feel burning sensation in my arms and in my intensines, today all day my intensines have been in fire and feel exhausted. Don't really understand what is happening,is all that caused from high stress levels or adverse effect or withdrawal dont really understand.But my situation is worsening .I used to go jogging/walking (~30 min)+ bicycling almost everyday until 04/10/23 when this joint pain began which in my legs and elbows.Don't know really what to do maybe tonight Im going again at ER as feel horrible . There so many symptoms that im not able to track them at all. Tinittus24/7, palpitations almost hours of the day, burning sensation in arms ,joints and today in intensities,tension headache, fatigue, nausea,and have almost 6 days with Insomnia (barley sleep 1-2 hour a night) which makes everything else worse, anxiety in very high levels,heart racing dry mouth. @manymoretodaysI edited my signature concerning lyrica.I think i should stop this pill maybe fast tapering but im afraid.However in this pill things are going worse so something should be done. •01/2017-12/2022 ~6 Years on Generic Escilitopram (5mg-20mg) because of repetitive panic attacks and anxiety that lead to depression. My tapering was not tapering as I read here. I consider it CT because of wrong directions of docs, I went from 20mg to 5mg in a short amount of time and then jumped to 0mg. •01/07/23 Took maca root powder for pssd for 4 days only which I think worsened my symptoms a lot.(Not sure if that was the cause or what came was supposed to come) •15/07/23-01/08/23 Prebagalin) 2x50mg 01/08/23 - 05/08/23. 75x50mg 06/08/23 - 18/08/23 2x75mg an then reduced 19/09/23 - 23-09 to 75x50mg 24/09/23 - 1/12/23 2x50mg. 1/12/22- ongoing 2x45mg( on first week of December happened a mistake in liquid I made and took 4 times double dose ) 15/01/24 - ongoing occasional 5mg diazepam for anxiety. Link to comment
andy96gr Posted October 10, 2023 Author Share Posted October 10, 2023 Seeing my journal(Prebagalin since 17/09 17/09(2*75mg) - sleep 9 hours , moderte anxiety,good energy(75%) ,head pressur and headache. 18/09(2*75mg) - sleep 7,16 hours energy(70%) ,heart discomfort all day but in night little better, headache problems, moderate to high anxiety 19/09(1*50+1*75mg)- sleep 4-5 hours ,energy 70% Anxiety moderate to high.headache pressure almost all day and heart discomfort but bearble. 20/09(1*50mg+1*75mg)- sleep 9+ hours .Almost all day strong headache and tension headache better in night. 21/09 •01/2017-12/2022 ~6 Years on Generic Escilitopram (5mg-20mg) because of repetitive panic attacks and anxiety that lead to depression. My tapering was not tapering as I read here. I consider it CT because of wrong directions of docs, I went from 20mg to 5mg in a short amount of time and then jumped to 0mg. •01/07/23 Took maca root powder for pssd for 4 days only which I think worsened my symptoms a lot.(Not sure if that was the cause or what came was supposed to come) •15/07/23-01/08/23 Prebagalin) 2x50mg 01/08/23 - 05/08/23. 75x50mg 06/08/23 - 18/08/23 2x75mg an then reduced 19/09/23 - 23-09 to 75x50mg 24/09/23 - 1/12/23 2x50mg. 1/12/22- ongoing 2x45mg( on first week of December happened a mistake in liquid I made and took 4 times double dose ) 15/01/24 - ongoing occasional 5mg diazepam for anxiety. Link to comment
andy96gr Posted October 10, 2023 Author Share Posted October 10, 2023 Seeing my journal(Prebagalin since 17/09 17/09(2*75mg) - sleep 9 hours , moderte anxiety,good energy(75%) ,head pressure and headache. 18/09(2*75mg) - sleep 7,16 hours energy(70%) ,heart discomfort all day but in night little better, headache problems, moderate to high anxiety 19/09(1*50mg+1*75mg)- sleep 4-5 hours , energy 70% Anxiety moderate to high.headache pressure almost all day and heart discomfort but bearable. 20/09(1*50mg+1*75mg) - sleep 9+ hours .Almost all day strong headache and tension headache better at night. 21/09(1*50mg+1*75mg) -8 hours not very good sleep, energy(72%),mostly headache through the day . 22/09(1*50mg+1*75mg) - 5 to 6 hours with very bad dreams, energy(70%)very depressive day and negative thoughts and pressure headache,high anxiety, 23/09(1*50mg+1*75mg) - 7 hours not very good sleep, energy(75%), very strong headaches during the day and breath shortness,the previous night very depressive mood,strong headache which became worse at night,high anxiety 24/09(2*50mg)( sleep forgot to note),stressful day , breath shortness, bearable headaches through the day. 25/09(2*50mg) (no sleep),energy 70%,very stressful day , not feeling comfortable through the day ,depressive mood some hours of day,moderate headaches before sleeping ,heart racing , palpitations and shortness of breath . 26/09 (2*50mg) (6-7 hours good sleep),energy 72%,stressful and not very comfortable day , shortness of breath ,dificoulting funtiong properly through the day 27/09 (2*50mg) - sleep 7,5 hours,bad mood through the day ,headaches through the day . 28/09 (2*50mg) - sleep 9 hours,balance problems and headaches throughout day . 29/09 (2*50mg) - sleep 4-5 hours (not quality sleep),productive day but at night strong headache ,balance problems 30/09 (2*50mg) - sleep 5-6 hours ,the worst day while in WD,very strong headaches,,tension headaches,heart racing,,lot drinking water and urinating ,burning sensation in head ,fatigue, palpitations,lot of anxiety , sensitivity to light and loud. 1/10 (2*50mg) -sleep 5-6 hours sleep(not continues ),lots of crying spells ,not able tommanage stress ,crying spells,loud sensitivity ,shortness of breath before sleeping 2/10 (2*50mg) - sleep 4-5 hours , lot of stress, low mood,balance problems,palpiations,tachycardia ,head pressure. 3/10 (2*50mg)- no sleep ,60% energy ,strange first time burning /pain in my feet knees and down all night ,fatigue ,lots of anxiety,lotsof stress,very bad mood ,no feelings,not lot of headaches ,sensitivity to light ,sadness 4/10 (2*50mg) -1 hour sleep,65% energy,lot of anxiety ,palpiations,negative thoughts,pain in my intestines,balance problems Since then I haven't been able to note anything because everything worsned and lack of sleep makes everything worse . Seeing what I have noted looks like everything went worse since I reduced prebagalin ,is there any possibility that because of the reduction I have these symptoms and would you suggest increasing the dosage again? Thank you @Altostrata and @manymoretodays for your help. •01/2017-12/2022 ~6 Years on Generic Escilitopram (5mg-20mg) because of repetitive panic attacks and anxiety that lead to depression. My tapering was not tapering as I read here. I consider it CT because of wrong directions of docs, I went from 20mg to 5mg in a short amount of time and then jumped to 0mg. •01/07/23 Took maca root powder for pssd for 4 days only which I think worsened my symptoms a lot.(Not sure if that was the cause or what came was supposed to come) •15/07/23-01/08/23 Prebagalin) 2x50mg 01/08/23 - 05/08/23. 75x50mg 06/08/23 - 18/08/23 2x75mg an then reduced 19/09/23 - 23-09 to 75x50mg 24/09/23 - 1/12/23 2x50mg. 1/12/22- ongoing 2x45mg( on first week of December happened a mistake in liquid I made and took 4 times double dose ) 15/01/24 - ongoing occasional 5mg diazepam for anxiety. Link to comment
Kostas Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) Hi andi , Most probably all bizarre symptoms you described ,are due to withdrawal from the drug . You have been already to the er doctors didn't find any medical problems and I doubt they will find anything if you go again. Most of the symptoms you described ,from joint pains ,weak legs ,loss of appetite difficulty in sleeping ect ect ,are very familiar to me during my withdrawal period. However since I was finally convinced that nothing fatal was happening to me ,I was able gradually to accommodate them in my life and trying to keep going.. Gradually, to my surprise one by one started to fade away, and gradually gone .. Please do not despair , and face every day doing something pos itive ignoring them as possible, till they gradually improve ,with your system gradually been used to the new normal .. Edited October 10, 2023 by Altostrata removed blank lines Citalopram 20 mg Mid June 1994- end March 1995 Then tapering 3 months Mid August 1995-end August 1996 Tapering 6 months Mid January 2000-end September 2001 Tapering 6 months Mid October 2003-end October 2005 Tapering 7 years. More detailed drug history is here - ☼-kostas Off any drug from October 2012 Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted October 10, 2023 Administrator Share Posted October 10, 2023 It surely would be helpful to get those daily notes requested several times, to see if perhaps you're having an adverse reaction to Lyrica. Otherwise, your guess is as good as mine. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus manymoretodays Posted October 13, 2023 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted October 13, 2023 Hi andy96gr, On 10/10/2023 at 7:52 AM, andy96gr said: I edited my signature concerning lyrica.I think i should stop this pill maybe fast tapering but im afraid.However in this pill things are going worse so something should be done. Yes, I see this, that on 24th of September you went down to 100 mg of Lyrica, and have stayed there. Prior to that you alternated doses a bit. Please don't fast taper now. You've been on it long enough to have developed a physiologic dependency. How are things different since the 24th of September, if at all? That's about 2 and 1/2 weeks now. Let's start simple with NOTES/daily drug and symptoms logs. Note the date. Then time(s) on the left. To the right of the times note your Lyrica and dose, when you take it. IF, you are up to it.........to the left of times, note your symptoms before and after you take the Lyrica. And HOLD, at 100 mg total dosage per day. Any of the sleep tips helpful? Try the lights out, background noise if needed, and stay in bed for awhile at night. You sound really anxious. Breathing exercises or guided meditations can be helpful too. Pick some out before you lay down. I like 4-7-8 breathing, in a pinch when spinning with anxiety. Here's one: Some specific to help with sleep came up too, when I searched youtube........hoping you can find one that appeals. It's just in through the nose with a 4 count, hold for a 7 count, and out through the nose or mouth(at first) for a count of 8. Then repeat. Once you can get it down then continue for at least 4 rounds. It's always worked well for me. Hold on andy96gr. L, P, H, and G, mmt Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks. Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022, and again finally 5/25/24. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment
andy96gr Posted October 13, 2023 Author Share Posted October 13, 2023 11/10/2023 8:00 wake up 8:40 high anxiety ,(low)burning joints,and just a feeling like musqitos are bitting my body . 10:00 went walking 30 min 10:30 breakfast (cereals with an half apple) 11:00 50mg lyrica 11:30 palpitations 12:00 higher anxiety 13:00 An very starnge headache started in the center of my head , thought I fainted couldn roll my eyes a pressure felt in my head like someone was pricking it , burning sanstion not only in my joints but in other parts of my body, feeling not well. 13:20 The pain still there but little better, palpitations ,heart racing 13:35 burning sensation still there, 14:35 feeling little better from anxiety,heart rate in normal levels,still disturbs my head in my head after the pain. 15:57 felt sleepy and lay down from14:45 didn't sleep,pain in head continues but bearble, burning sensation is there but not intense. 17:55 palpitations, anxiety little better 18:15 Ate soup with chicken and patatoes and chesse ,half glass fresh orange juice 18:30 went for cycling 30 min 19:42 anxiety normal level ,that pain on top on my head continues 21:25 Burning sensation not only in my joints of arms and feet but also in my skin is felt , tinittus noticeable 23:00 lyrica 50mg 23:20 ate yogurt,an egg and some pomegranate 12/10/23 1:00 melatonin. 1,75mg,pain and burning sensation in my intensines + parts of skin body 2.28 wake up, 6:31 wake up again, feeling shaky and cold and nausea 6:55 burning sensation in my joints high intensity and body, mousqitos biting feeling, anxiety and stressed 7:05 palpitations 9:53 burning sensation continues in my body and joints feel my legs and arms weaker 10:54 eye twitching 11:00 breakfast (cereals with milk) 11:10 lyrica 50mg 12:28 anxiety 13:57 burning sensation all over the body 15:30 cannot control my head properly starange feeling with balance 16:00 ate chesepie with yogurt 16:28 palpitations,heart racing 16:52 heart racing, anxiety 17:28 Very difficult to walk as result of joint pain having these period,im becoming worse ,i feel that if that continues I won't be able to walk 18:00 drilling headache on top of my head , burning sensation continues in my joints (elbws and kness) 20:00 drilling headache on top of my head , burning sensation continues in my joints (elbws and kness)also in some places of my skin 21:44 burning sanstion everywhere,very intense burning in my intensines 22:29 intense burning sensation everywhere,feel like on fire what is this?Can it be adverse effect or this thing triggered any autoimmune disease 13/10/23 0:30 lyrica 50 mg , burning is still there 1:37 difficulty breathing 2:55 burning sensation is there ,naussa, tinittus noticeable , dawn back pain 4:46 heavy chest no sleep tonight 8:00 naussa, burning sensation in my joints and im my upper back spinal cord., anxiety, palpitations,heart racing 9:00 yogurt with chesepie and 1 omega3 capsule 10:10 high anxiety,high heart rate, palpitations , burning sensation is there feel very week joints 11:45 lyrica 50 mg 12:00 been horrible,no strength can stand in my feet, burning is there in my joints also in my upper back i feel a strange pain that makes my nausea worse,no idea what is happening is this frwm withdrawl from stress or adverse hiw you guys got through these situations,alsy my mood is very down today ,maybe everything is like because i didn't sleep dont know 13:00 Orange juice,feel palpitations an all above 19:29 Not able to write the previous hours as i was in very bad condition,front part of head was in pain couldn't even open the eyes, I'm scared guys @Altostrata @manymoretodays @ChessieCatshould i consider reinstating selexa 0.1 mg which are the odds? have you seen successful reinstatement after such a long time?what if we try 0.05mg? •01/2017-12/2022 ~6 Years on Generic Escilitopram (5mg-20mg) because of repetitive panic attacks and anxiety that lead to depression. My tapering was not tapering as I read here. I consider it CT because of wrong directions of docs, I went from 20mg to 5mg in a short amount of time and then jumped to 0mg. •01/07/23 Took maca root powder for pssd for 4 days only which I think worsened my symptoms a lot.(Not sure if that was the cause or what came was supposed to come) •15/07/23-01/08/23 Prebagalin) 2x50mg 01/08/23 - 05/08/23. 75x50mg 06/08/23 - 18/08/23 2x75mg an then reduced 19/09/23 - 23-09 to 75x50mg 24/09/23 - 1/12/23 2x50mg. 1/12/22- ongoing 2x45mg( on first week of December happened a mistake in liquid I made and took 4 times double dose ) 15/01/24 - ongoing occasional 5mg diazepam for anxiety. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted October 13, 2023 Administrator Share Posted October 13, 2023 I am confused. What times o'clock do you take your drugs, with their dosages? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
andy96gr Posted October 13, 2023 Author Share Posted October 13, 2023 Usually between 11:00 and 12 in morning and evn,just yesterday forgot to take in time. •01/2017-12/2022 ~6 Years on Generic Escilitopram (5mg-20mg) because of repetitive panic attacks and anxiety that lead to depression. My tapering was not tapering as I read here. I consider it CT because of wrong directions of docs, I went from 20mg to 5mg in a short amount of time and then jumped to 0mg. •01/07/23 Took maca root powder for pssd for 4 days only which I think worsened my symptoms a lot.(Not sure if that was the cause or what came was supposed to come) •15/07/23-01/08/23 Prebagalin) 2x50mg 01/08/23 - 05/08/23. 75x50mg 06/08/23 - 18/08/23 2x75mg an then reduced 19/09/23 - 23-09 to 75x50mg 24/09/23 - 1/12/23 2x50mg. 1/12/22- ongoing 2x45mg( on first week of December happened a mistake in liquid I made and took 4 times double dose ) 15/01/24 - ongoing occasional 5mg diazepam for anxiety. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus manymoretodays Posted October 13, 2023 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted October 13, 2023 Lyrica 50 mg at 11 in the morning and then again at 2300, or 11 at night. Is this what you try for? Try and keep consistent with timing andy96gr. Same drug and dose within 1/2 hour of 11 each day. Have things worsened since September 24th when you did the 33% drop in your Lyrica daily dose? Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks. Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022, and again finally 5/25/24. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment
andy96gr Posted October 13, 2023 Author Share Posted October 13, 2023 Seeing my journal(Prebagalin since 17/09 17/09(2*75mg) - sleep 9 hours , moderte anxiety,good energy(75%) ,head pressure and headache. 18/09(2*75mg) - sleep 7,16 hours energy(70%) ,heart discomfort all day but in night little better, headache problems, moderate to high anxiety 19/09(1*50mg+1*75mg)- sleep 4-5 hours , energy 70% Anxiety moderate to high.headache pressure almost all day and heart discomfort but bearable. 20/09(1*50mg+1*75mg) - sleep 9+ hours .Almost all day strong headache and tension headache better at night. 21/09(1*50mg+1*75mg) -8 hours not very good sleep, energy(72%),mostly headache through the day . 22/09(1*50mg+1*75mg) - 5 to 6 hours with very bad dreams, energy(70%)very depressive day and negative thoughts and pressure headache,high anxiety, 23/09(1*50mg+1*75mg) - 7 hours not very good sleep, energy(75%), very strong headaches during the day and breath shortness,the previous night very depressive mood,strong headache which became worse at night,high anxiety 24/09(2*50mg)( sleep forgot to note),stressful day , breath shortness, bearable headaches through the day. 25/09(2*50mg) (no sleep),energy 70%,very stressful day , not feeling comfortable through the day ,depressive mood some hours of day,moderate headaches before sleeping ,heart racing , palpitations and shortness of breath . 26/09 (2*50mg) (6-7 hours good sleep),energy 72%,stressful and not very comfortable day , shortness of breath ,dificoulting funtiong properly through the day 27/09 (2*50mg) - sleep 7,5 hours,bad mood through the day ,headaches through the day . 28/09 (2*50mg) - sleep 9 hours,balance problems and headaches throughout day . 29/09 (2*50mg) - sleep 4-5 hours (not quality sleep),productive day but at night strong headache ,balance problems 30/09 (2*50mg) - sleep 5-6 hours ,the worst day while in WD,very strong headaches,,tension headaches,heart racing,,lot drinking water and urinating ,burning sensation in head ,fatigue, palpitations,lot of anxiety , sensitivity to light and loud. 1/10 (2*50mg) -sleep 5-6 hours sleep(not continues ),lots of crying spells ,not able tommanage stress ,crying spells,loud sensitivity ,shortness of breath before sleeping 2/10 (2*50mg) - sleep 4-5 hours , lot of stress, low mood,balance problems,palpiations,tachycardia ,head pressure. 3/10 (2*50mg)- no sleep ,60% energy ,strange first time burning /pain in my feet knees and down all night ,fatigue ,lots of anxiety,lotsof stress,very bad mood ,no feelings,not lot of headaches ,sensitivity to light ,sadness 4/10 (2*50mg) -1 hour sleep,65% energy,lot of anxiety ,palpiations,negative thoughts,pain in my intestines,balance problems Since then I haven't been able to note anything because everything worsned and lack of sleep makes everything worse . Yes I have been worse, especially my sleep,don't know if that is due to the fact I reduced the dose of lyrica or Just withdrawal started to show the real teeth now. •01/2017-12/2022 ~6 Years on Generic Escilitopram (5mg-20mg) because of repetitive panic attacks and anxiety that lead to depression. My tapering was not tapering as I read here. I consider it CT because of wrong directions of docs, I went from 20mg to 5mg in a short amount of time and then jumped to 0mg. •01/07/23 Took maca root powder for pssd for 4 days only which I think worsened my symptoms a lot.(Not sure if that was the cause or what came was supposed to come) •15/07/23-01/08/23 Prebagalin) 2x50mg 01/08/23 - 05/08/23. 75x50mg 06/08/23 - 18/08/23 2x75mg an then reduced 19/09/23 - 23-09 to 75x50mg 24/09/23 - 1/12/23 2x50mg. 1/12/22- ongoing 2x45mg( on first week of December happened a mistake in liquid I made and took 4 times double dose ) 15/01/24 - ongoing occasional 5mg diazepam for anxiety. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted October 13, 2023 Administrator Share Posted October 13, 2023 If you have been taking pregabalin inconsistently, which appears to be a longstanding practice, nothing in your notes can be attributed to effect of pregabalin. If you're seeing no benefit from it, you might as well stop taking it altogether. It appears that you have protracted withdrawal syndrome from going off escitalopram. 1 This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
andy96gr Posted October 13, 2023 Author Share Posted October 13, 2023 I have been taking it consistently, Last night I just forgot.Its difficult to stop it,im afraid that things become worse, and don't know what symptoms I'm going to have after stoping lyrica.Yes I believe that I am in protracted withdrawal syndrom. I asked you about considering reinstating selexa 0.1 mg which are the odds? have you seen successful reinstatement after such a long time? what if we try 0.05mg?I need to know in case I don't have another joice. Have you seen successful results and how often?Becaouse there is a lot of possibility I end in a ER and they prescribe me without wanting or being able to deny antidepressants to take in full doses which means disaster.So better to have a shot in 0.05mg or 0.1mg selexa than starting any otherantidepressant in this stage. •01/2017-12/2022 ~6 Years on Generic Escilitopram (5mg-20mg) because of repetitive panic attacks and anxiety that lead to depression. My tapering was not tapering as I read here. I consider it CT because of wrong directions of docs, I went from 20mg to 5mg in a short amount of time and then jumped to 0mg. •01/07/23 Took maca root powder for pssd for 4 days only which I think worsened my symptoms a lot.(Not sure if that was the cause or what came was supposed to come) •15/07/23-01/08/23 Prebagalin) 2x50mg 01/08/23 - 05/08/23. 75x50mg 06/08/23 - 18/08/23 2x75mg an then reduced 19/09/23 - 23-09 to 75x50mg 24/09/23 - 1/12/23 2x50mg. 1/12/22- ongoing 2x45mg( on first week of December happened a mistake in liquid I made and took 4 times double dose ) 15/01/24 - ongoing occasional 5mg diazepam for anxiety. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted October 13, 2023 Administrator Share Posted October 13, 2023 We don't know what the odds of improvement after reinstatement might be. Some people do better. You might try 0.5mg citalopram (not escitalopram) to start and see if it helps. You will need to take your doses at the same time and same dosage every day. Please let us know how you're doing. 1 This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
andy96gr Posted October 13, 2023 Author Share Posted October 13, 2023 In your experience @Altostrata approximately 20% 10% 5%? •01/2017-12/2022 ~6 Years on Generic Escilitopram (5mg-20mg) because of repetitive panic attacks and anxiety that lead to depression. My tapering was not tapering as I read here. I consider it CT because of wrong directions of docs, I went from 20mg to 5mg in a short amount of time and then jumped to 0mg. •01/07/23 Took maca root powder for pssd for 4 days only which I think worsened my symptoms a lot.(Not sure if that was the cause or what came was supposed to come) •15/07/23-01/08/23 Prebagalin) 2x50mg 01/08/23 - 05/08/23. 75x50mg 06/08/23 - 18/08/23 2x75mg an then reduced 19/09/23 - 23-09 to 75x50mg 24/09/23 - 1/12/23 2x50mg. 1/12/22- ongoing 2x45mg( on first week of December happened a mistake in liquid I made and took 4 times double dose ) 15/01/24 - ongoing occasional 5mg diazepam for anxiety. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted October 13, 2023 Administrator Share Posted October 13, 2023 Unknown means unknown. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
andy96gr Posted October 14, 2023 Author Share Posted October 14, 2023 Thank you, I'm not doing it yet.I will do it only as my last option as i am afraid of any adverse reaction.I wanted ta ask about naproxen @Altostratafor my joint pain .Is that save to take and for so long?Any interaction between lyrica and naproxen? Also what would be tĥe best plañ to start taper lyrica in this phase? •01/2017-12/2022 ~6 Years on Generic Escilitopram (5mg-20mg) because of repetitive panic attacks and anxiety that lead to depression. My tapering was not tapering as I read here. I consider it CT because of wrong directions of docs, I went from 20mg to 5mg in a short amount of time and then jumped to 0mg. •01/07/23 Took maca root powder for pssd for 4 days only which I think worsened my symptoms a lot.(Not sure if that was the cause or what came was supposed to come) •15/07/23-01/08/23 Prebagalin) 2x50mg 01/08/23 - 05/08/23. 75x50mg 06/08/23 - 18/08/23 2x75mg an then reduced 19/09/23 - 23-09 to 75x50mg 24/09/23 - 1/12/23 2x50mg. 1/12/22- ongoing 2x45mg( on first week of December happened a mistake in liquid I made and took 4 times double dose ) 15/01/24 - ongoing occasional 5mg diazepam for anxiety. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted October 14, 2023 Administrator Share Posted October 14, 2023 Tips for tapering off pregabalin (Lyrica) This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus manymoretodays Posted October 14, 2023 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted October 14, 2023 7 hours ago, andy96gr said: Thank you, I'm not doing it yet.I will do it only as my last option as i am afraid of any adverse reaction.I wanted ta ask about naproxen @Altostratafor my joint pain .Is that save to take and for so long?Any interaction between lyrica and naproxen? Also what would be tĥe best plañ to start taper lyrica in this phase? Can you access Drugs.com? It's not showing any: https://www.drugs.com/interactions-check.php?drug_list=1937-2171,1690-0 Medscape is another Drug information resource and place you can check interactions. Do utilize one or the other andy96gr. Try heat, maybe Epsom salts in a hot bath(if on no other magnesium products), and possibly heat patches. Any of those might help. Is it a WD symptom? Ever had it before drugs? Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks. Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022, and again finally 5/25/24. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment
andy96gr Posted October 15, 2023 Author Share Posted October 15, 2023 No i didn't have this symptom before ,this joint pain is continues and is very disturbing.It looks like reuhmatid arthritis or loupus flare ,dont know what is this really maybe I'm going to have blood work next week too see what is happening but not sure l will get answers quickly.May it be any wd symptom or adverse effect from lyrica or Is caused by withdrawal dont really know l. •01/2017-12/2022 ~6 Years on Generic Escilitopram (5mg-20mg) because of repetitive panic attacks and anxiety that lead to depression. My tapering was not tapering as I read here. I consider it CT because of wrong directions of docs, I went from 20mg to 5mg in a short amount of time and then jumped to 0mg. •01/07/23 Took maca root powder for pssd for 4 days only which I think worsened my symptoms a lot.(Not sure if that was the cause or what came was supposed to come) •15/07/23-01/08/23 Prebagalin) 2x50mg 01/08/23 - 05/08/23. 75x50mg 06/08/23 - 18/08/23 2x75mg an then reduced 19/09/23 - 23-09 to 75x50mg 24/09/23 - 1/12/23 2x50mg. 1/12/22- ongoing 2x45mg( on first week of December happened a mistake in liquid I made and took 4 times double dose ) 15/01/24 - ongoing occasional 5mg diazepam for anxiety. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted October 16, 2023 Administrator Share Posted October 16, 2023 Do you have lupus or arthritis? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus manymoretodays Posted October 17, 2023 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted October 17, 2023 Hey andy96gr, Here's a couple relevant topics to your symptoms and perhaps some coping nuggets: Tinnitus: What does all that noise mean? Burning sensations from withdrawal- skin, mouth, head, elsewhere Irregular heartbeats, palpitations,tachycardia, bradycardia Tips to help sleep: so many of us have that awful withdrawal insomnia Can you do a current 24 hour NOTES, like what you did here again? Include any additions or subtractions to your drugs please. Sounds miserable and I am so sorry andy96gr. A better day coming soon. It may not be too long in finding out if there is something inflammatory ongoing........I hope not. I know I had worries, and I think my doctor got an ESR done. A blood test. It did come back in normal range thankfully. Quite awhile ago. Hang on. Rooting for you!!! Tough stuff. L, P, H, and G, mmt Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks. Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022, and again finally 5/25/24. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment
andy96gr Posted October 30, 2023 Author Share Posted October 30, 2023 On 10/16/2023 at 10:56 PM, Altostrata said: Do you have lupus or arthritis? Hello @Altostrata and @manymoretodaysdon't really know what I have anymore because I have lot o symptoms Is taht true that based in your experience here that in months 10-12 acute withdrawal usually hit??.I had my blood work done recently and I'm going to talk with my reuhmtologist tomorrow.In my understanding My inflammation markers were ok .But I saw my thyroid wasn't very ok(never had any trouble with thyroid) also was deficient in B9. This autoimmune stuff is very complicated to be honest because in the beginning stages usualy the inflammatory markers are negative but with time can turn pozitive,also there are people with autoimmune that are always negative (seronegative) but have the symptoms and the condition of the desease.But my condition now is so bad so I am not able to focus on this stuff anymore , I have over 30 symptoms daily some of them new some of them go some of them are there staying like my joint pain , strange headaches, cognitive impairment, balance problems, fatigue,weak legs and arms, anxiety, depression,no emotion or interest in anything,pssd, tinnitus, Palpitations, insomnia,irrability,hopplesness, muscle pain, hungry all time,vision problems,loud sensitivity,chest pain ,flu like symptoms, cold sensitivity,sometimes breathing problems ,and more is a f@ hell and is becoming worse. •I think I should see an neurologist and do an MRI to see if there is no damage in my brain as my cognitive is very scary (dont know if it is common and with time improves)also headaches are very scary too. •Also I should see a nutritionist and maybe do all my vitamins and mineral bloodworks tests , furthermore I want to check my hormone levels and see if there is any need for any supplement or diet changing.I already have an elimination diet(no sugars, dairy,or wheat). The reality is that I really want to fight this but this period I'm very weak ,my fatigue and weaknesses doesn't let me exercise or maybe doing any sauna or even walking so I feel very bound and not able to do much. And the fear is that maybe things will be worse because the tendency week by week shws this. I was thinking to add magnesium in my diet but not sure which one.I saw that some people had good results with magnesium l-threonate but dont know if is worth what do you think?And do you have any other suggestions how to improve the situation and any other test I should do ? @manymoretodaysMy ESR was ok but anything can change any moment so is not something sure unfortunately 😔. •01/2017-12/2022 ~6 Years on Generic Escilitopram (5mg-20mg) because of repetitive panic attacks and anxiety that lead to depression. My tapering was not tapering as I read here. I consider it CT because of wrong directions of docs, I went from 20mg to 5mg in a short amount of time and then jumped to 0mg. •01/07/23 Took maca root powder for pssd for 4 days only which I think worsened my symptoms a lot.(Not sure if that was the cause or what came was supposed to come) •15/07/23-01/08/23 Prebagalin) 2x50mg 01/08/23 - 05/08/23. 75x50mg 06/08/23 - 18/08/23 2x75mg an then reduced 19/09/23 - 23-09 to 75x50mg 24/09/23 - 1/12/23 2x50mg. 1/12/22- ongoing 2x45mg( on first week of December happened a mistake in liquid I made and took 4 times double dose ) 15/01/24 - ongoing occasional 5mg diazepam for anxiety. Link to comment
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