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Maybe the anaesthesia was something wd made you sensitive to? We can be sensitised to all kinds of stuff we weren’t before all this. Lots of symptoms, sorry you’re suffering. Your husband too, still won’t acknowledge what’s happening to him? Does the dog walking help?

Ill post an update on my page.

Hang in there!

History of depression and anxiety. Symptoms of PTSD. 1998-1999 Venlafaxine 2006-2007 Prozac.2013-15 Sertraline 50mg. 2015 cross-tapered to citalopram 20mg. 2015-2021 Citalopram 20mg (brief increase to 30mg for 2/3 months in 2019). 01/2021 Dropped from 20mg to 10mg, back up to 20mg til June. 25/6/21 stopped CT. Started 50mg 5htp after a week without citalopram in the hope this would balance out my serotonin levels. After 3 days increased to 100mg 5htp. 11/7/21 Stopped 5htp with the intention of reinstating citalopram at 1mg. 16/7/21 Reinstated cit at 1mg. 2/8/21 Increased dose to 2mg. 28/11/21 10% reduction to 1.8mg.

8/12/21 2mg 6/1/22 1.8mg 10/2/22 1.6mg 13/5/22 1.5mg 4/6/22 1.55mg 4/7/22 1.4mg 4/8/22 1.25mg 1/11/22 1.1mg 3/3/23 1mg 18/4/23 0.9mg 2/6/23 0.8mg 4/10/23 0.7mg 11/11/23 jumped off @0.7mg started on 5htp 200mg -400mg, L-Theanine, and L-tyrosine 200mg. 25/11/23 came off 5-htp, l-tyrosine and l-Theanine. 24/12/23 went on 7.5mg mirtazapine. 27/12/23 stopped mirtazapine & reinstated citalopram @.35mg. 1/1/24 increased to 0.5mg. July 14, 2024 0.49mg. July 16 0.47mg. July 21 0.5mg. PTSD diagnosis October 2023. 11/11/23 started EMDR therapy for PTSD. Multiple attempts to taper off citalopram. Vegan/vegetarian, otherwise healthy lifestyle. Other medications; combined HRT. Other supplements; magnesium glycinate, vegan omega3. Completely OFF caffeine (since July 21). Finding it difficult to completely give up alcohol but starting from 14th July 24 will be trying my utmost to abstain. Main symptoms; crushing depression, anhedonia/emotional anesthesia, irritability, rage, anxiety/fear, intrusive thoughts, cognitive fog, inability to focus, restlessness and some insomnia

 

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46 minutes ago, Kat66 said:

Maybe the anaesthesia was something wd made you sensitive to? We can be sensitised to all kinds of stuff we weren’t before all this. Lots of symptoms, sorry you’re suffering. Your husband too, still won’t acknowledge what’s happening to him? Does the dog walking help?

Ill post an update on my page.

Hang in there!

@Kat66 Just got back from dog walking when I saw your email. It helps but it's not easy, heart pounding away when I'm out, not enjoying it as I should but I have good moments too if I briefly see someone to talk to. I think I worry about feeling ill when I'm out and not being able to cope, in short anxiety. My dog walker on holiday this week so have had to make the effort, twice today, my husband took him once also. My husband still getting dizziness, balance issues too, I think it's getting through to him that it could be withdrawal but our doctors say it should be out of his system by now so he's still doubtful😏. Good to hear from you. I'll take a peep at your thread.😊🙏

2008 10 mg Citalopram, 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide

2021 reduced Citalopram over three years,2023 5.2 mg Citalopram for approx. 1 year

Sept 2023 taken off Citalopram and bendroflumethiazide , put on Amitriptyline 10 mg and Ramipril 2.5 mg 

October 2023 taken off Amitriptyline and Ramipril put on Propranolol 10 mg

October 2023 put on Losartan 25 mg 

November 2023 taken off Losartan on Propranolol 10 mg 

December 2023 now on 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide + Citalopram 0.5 mg.

February 2024, taken off bendroflumethiazide, on bisoprolol 1.25 mg

February 2024, taken off bisoprolol, on ramipril 1.25 mg + 0.5mg Citalopram, stopped ramipril. June 2024 0.45 mg Citalopram. July 204 0.4 mg. ( nothing else).

 

 

 

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Hi, here I am with another migraine, should have know it was coming two days ago when I felt so cold I had to go to bed in the day with a hot water bottle. It's ramped up my withdrawal symptoms for sure. Symptoms are so similar to withdrawal, flu like, light and sound sensitivity, neck stiffness and pain, ringing in ears, vertigo and dizziness, balance issues, nasal congestion, mood changes, anxiety, depression, exhaustion - the list goes on. It's a no wonder withdrawal symptoms have ramped up. I must be around 14 weeks now on 0.4 mg Citalopram and around 10 months since reinstating to 0.5 mg. I don't feel any better on it, worse if anything. I get headaches, muzziness, dizziness for up to 3 hours after taking it. I thought reinstating would alleviate symptoms but it doesn't seem to be happening for me.😏 Not sure what to think, tempted to give it a miss for a day or two.🤔 I know I tried it before and had to give in but time is going on and I'm getting nowhere. It's like one step forward and two steps backwards. I want to drive my car but just don't feel that I can. Best wishes to all.🙏😊

2008 10 mg Citalopram, 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide

2021 reduced Citalopram over three years,2023 5.2 mg Citalopram for approx. 1 year

Sept 2023 taken off Citalopram and bendroflumethiazide , put on Amitriptyline 10 mg and Ramipril 2.5 mg 

October 2023 taken off Amitriptyline and Ramipril put on Propranolol 10 mg

October 2023 put on Losartan 25 mg 

November 2023 taken off Losartan on Propranolol 10 mg 

December 2023 now on 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide + Citalopram 0.5 mg.

February 2024, taken off bendroflumethiazide, on bisoprolol 1.25 mg

February 2024, taken off bisoprolol, on ramipril 1.25 mg + 0.5mg Citalopram, stopped ramipril. June 2024 0.45 mg Citalopram. July 204 0.4 mg. ( nothing else).

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Sonia009 said:

tempted to give it a miss for a day or two.🤔

There's a reason a topic called "Never skip your dose" exists. You know you're fragile now, think of the adventure with tooth removal. Best to play it safe if not much is there to win, right?

2 minutes ago, Sonia009 said:

It's like one step forward and two steps backwards.

Feeling the same. I suppose we all do at times. Windows and waves. Hope you'll eventually go down to 0 and regain your life, but at least I hope you can hold and have a happy Christmas with your family this time.

22.10.2020 sertraline (50 upped to 100mg for two months) and pregabalin (150mg for half year)

2021 mirtazapine (30mg for some months), amitryptyline (cascading dose but doctor took me off it before reaching five tablets), olanzapine (5mg), lithium (this one I reacted to terribly as well, maybe due to my Hashimoto disease)

2022 duloxetine, reboxetine, venlafaxine (all unsuccessful attemps stopped after one day with no side effects following days, only reboxetine pushed through with one box)

2023 mainly bupropion (150mg stopped after few weeks, 300mg stopped after few another weeks, 150mg stopped after few months) until IAR, buspirone (5mg) tried for 3 days 

autumn 2023 - 150mg bupropion daily,

12.12.2023 - bupropion stopped,

16.12.2023 - 100mg sertraline,

18.12.2023 - 150mg bupropion,

19, 20 & 21.12.2023 - 150mg bupropion & 5mg buspirone,

Nothing ever since 21.12.2023, but 25mcg levothyroxine since around summer 2023 until 10.07.2024 for Hashimoto disease (non-psychiatric drug)

 

First wave: 18.07.2023; immediate adverse reaction to sertraline and first CNS crash: 16.12.2023: late onset protracted withdrawal from bupropion: 13.04.2024; third crash: 16.07.2024; currently still in acute phase of PAWS as of September 2024

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30 minutes ago, BaccatePlayer said:

There's a reason a topic called "Never skip your dose" exists. You know you're fragile now, think of the adventure with tooth removal. Best to play it safe if not much is there to win, right?

Feeling the same. I suppose we all do at times. Windows and waves. Hope you'll eventually go down to 0 and regain your life, but at least I hope you can hold and have a happy Christmas with your family this time.

@BaccatePlayer Thank you. Just feeling so crappy right now, frustrated and demoralised😒. You are going through a lot yourself yet you still find the time to respond with wisdom. Sometimes I just like to vent, makes me feel better. I hope you are feeling a little better. 🙏😊

 

2008 10 mg Citalopram, 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide

2021 reduced Citalopram over three years,2023 5.2 mg Citalopram for approx. 1 year

Sept 2023 taken off Citalopram and bendroflumethiazide , put on Amitriptyline 10 mg and Ramipril 2.5 mg 

October 2023 taken off Amitriptyline and Ramipril put on Propranolol 10 mg

October 2023 put on Losartan 25 mg 

November 2023 taken off Losartan on Propranolol 10 mg 

December 2023 now on 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide + Citalopram 0.5 mg.

February 2024, taken off bendroflumethiazide, on bisoprolol 1.25 mg

February 2024, taken off bisoprolol, on ramipril 1.25 mg + 0.5mg Citalopram, stopped ramipril. June 2024 0.45 mg Citalopram. July 204 0.4 mg. ( nothing else).

 

 

 

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@Sonia009Sorry to know you are not doing good. I  feel that with situations like this it is more difficult for females. For me it is hard living like this from day to day. I believe we will heal but  meanwhile how to process getting through each day. How do you process and cope with getting through?  Thank you 

Maria George 

Started mirtazapine Dec. 20 2023 and stopped January 20,2024.

Only 1 antidepressant

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1 hour ago, mariamisery said:

@Sonia009Sorry to know you are not doing good. I  feel that with situations like this it is more difficult for females. For me it is hard living like this from day to day. I believe we will heal but  meanwhile how to process getting through each day. How do you process and cope with getting through?  Thank you 

@mariamisery@mariamiseryHi, so sorry to hear you're still suffering. How do I process and cope?🤔 Just got to get on with it, I still have to cook and clean, walk the dog etc. It's probably the same for you. Thankfully I don't work unlike some who don't have a choice even though they feel horrible like us.

This morning I walked my dog and just felt so awful, dizzy, balance off, migraine. My dog needed his walk, my husband couldn't take him, he was asleep after being awake all night with his insomnia. At times like this I keep reminding myself that it is just withdrawal and temporary and that helps to reassure me.  On really bad days when symptoms take over, I try to pace myself and do only what  needs to be done. Take care.🙏😊
 

2008 10 mg Citalopram, 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide

2021 reduced Citalopram over three years,2023 5.2 mg Citalopram for approx. 1 year

Sept 2023 taken off Citalopram and bendroflumethiazide , put on Amitriptyline 10 mg and Ramipril 2.5 mg 

October 2023 taken off Amitriptyline and Ramipril put on Propranolol 10 mg

October 2023 put on Losartan 25 mg 

November 2023 taken off Losartan on Propranolol 10 mg 

December 2023 now on 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide + Citalopram 0.5 mg.

February 2024, taken off bendroflumethiazide, on bisoprolol 1.25 mg

February 2024, taken off bisoprolol, on ramipril 1.25 mg + 0.5mg Citalopram, stopped ramipril. June 2024 0.45 mg Citalopram. July 204 0.4 mg. ( nothing else).

 

 

 

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It should be over but thus nagging  emotionally feeling that is hitting me so strong daily. Thinking it is my nervous system that is deregulated. Wish I knew for sure.Yes life must go on. Hoping we get  a break soon. This is very challenging. 

Maria George 

Started mirtazapine Dec. 20 2023 and stopped January 20,2024.

Only 1 antidepressant

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11 hours ago, mariamisery said:

It should be over but thus nagging  emotionally feeling that is hitting me so strong daily. Thinking it is my nervous system that is deregulated. Wish I knew for sure.Yes life must go on. Hoping we get  a break soon. This is very challenging. 

@mariamisery It's just another symptom that will take its course, just like the time you had breathing issues, that passed with time. It is challenging for sure but try not to let it drag you down.🙏😊

2008 10 mg Citalopram, 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide

2021 reduced Citalopram over three years,2023 5.2 mg Citalopram for approx. 1 year

Sept 2023 taken off Citalopram and bendroflumethiazide , put on Amitriptyline 10 mg and Ramipril 2.5 mg 

October 2023 taken off Amitriptyline and Ramipril put on Propranolol 10 mg

October 2023 put on Losartan 25 mg 

November 2023 taken off Losartan on Propranolol 10 mg 

December 2023 now on 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide + Citalopram 0.5 mg.

February 2024, taken off bendroflumethiazide, on bisoprolol 1.25 mg

February 2024, taken off bisoprolol, on ramipril 1.25 mg + 0.5mg Citalopram, stopped ramipril. June 2024 0.45 mg Citalopram. July 204 0.4 mg. ( nothing else).

 

 

 

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Hi, so Saturday night I ate prawn curry take away, I was so tired from no sleep the night before so I slept good. Sunday morning started off feeling dizzy then nausea and vomiting started and lasted the whole day. I couldn't keep water down so when I took my dose I must have brought it back. I was disoriented, had weird nonsense thoughts, thought I was losing it. Bed all day. I managed to eat one slice of toast that night, nothing else. Monday felt weak as a kitten, but managed to eat small meals. Felt a lot better by afternoon. Monday woke up dizzy again with nausea. Had some weird dreams before waking up and weird thoughts. I think it may be because I missed my dose through vomiting causing withdrawal symptoms. I hope nausea isn't going to be a new thing for me. It's just one thing after another.😕 Best wishes all.🙏😊

 

2008 10 mg Citalopram, 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide

2021 reduced Citalopram over three years,2023 5.2 mg Citalopram for approx. 1 year

Sept 2023 taken off Citalopram and bendroflumethiazide , put on Amitriptyline 10 mg and Ramipril 2.5 mg 

October 2023 taken off Amitriptyline and Ramipril put on Propranolol 10 mg

October 2023 put on Losartan 25 mg 

November 2023 taken off Losartan on Propranolol 10 mg 

December 2023 now on 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide + Citalopram 0.5 mg.

February 2024, taken off bendroflumethiazide, on bisoprolol 1.25 mg

February 2024, taken off bisoprolol, on ramipril 1.25 mg + 0.5mg Citalopram, stopped ramipril. June 2024 0.45 mg Citalopram. July 204 0.4 mg. ( nothing else).

 

 

 

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Hi everyone, the nausea persists but dizziness is worse. I think last Saturday I vomited all day and didn't keep my dose down. I watched a Dr Mark Horowitz video yesterday and he said missing one dose can start withdrawal symptoms, I think this is happening to me. I feel like I'm back to square one. I have a tickly/scratchy throat, stuffed sinuses, sneezing so I tested myself for covid but it was negative. At least that could have explained some of my symptoms. I'm also stressed with my husband's situation especially insomnia and all that goes with it. Ah well, upwards and onwards.😕

2008 10 mg Citalopram, 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide

2021 reduced Citalopram over three years,2023 5.2 mg Citalopram for approx. 1 year

Sept 2023 taken off Citalopram and bendroflumethiazide , put on Amitriptyline 10 mg and Ramipril 2.5 mg 

October 2023 taken off Amitriptyline and Ramipril put on Propranolol 10 mg

October 2023 put on Losartan 25 mg 

November 2023 taken off Losartan on Propranolol 10 mg 

December 2023 now on 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide + Citalopram 0.5 mg.

February 2024, taken off bendroflumethiazide, on bisoprolol 1.25 mg

February 2024, taken off bisoprolol, on ramipril 1.25 mg + 0.5mg Citalopram, stopped ramipril. June 2024 0.45 mg Citalopram. July 204 0.4 mg. ( nothing else).

 

 

 

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Looks like you got similair symptoms that I did lately. Ironically, I also considered covid, but it was a false red herring. I think once your CNS gets instable, it's basically Pandora's box. You can get any symptom, whenever, be good for a few weeks, then worse than ever for a few months. Pretty much impossible to draw any conclusion from symptoms, their messages are mostly misleading. Anyone who's still in the process of tapering is actively making changes, so it's a very subjective game. I hope you stabilize soon. Please remember about not stressing about what you can't control.

22.10.2020 sertraline (50 upped to 100mg for two months) and pregabalin (150mg for half year)

2021 mirtazapine (30mg for some months), amitryptyline (cascading dose but doctor took me off it before reaching five tablets), olanzapine (5mg), lithium (this one I reacted to terribly as well, maybe due to my Hashimoto disease)

2022 duloxetine, reboxetine, venlafaxine (all unsuccessful attemps stopped after one day with no side effects following days, only reboxetine pushed through with one box)

2023 mainly bupropion (150mg stopped after few weeks, 300mg stopped after few another weeks, 150mg stopped after few months) until IAR, buspirone (5mg) tried for 3 days 

autumn 2023 - 150mg bupropion daily,

12.12.2023 - bupropion stopped,

16.12.2023 - 100mg sertraline,

18.12.2023 - 150mg bupropion,

19, 20 & 21.12.2023 - 150mg bupropion & 5mg buspirone,

Nothing ever since 21.12.2023, but 25mcg levothyroxine since around summer 2023 until 10.07.2024 for Hashimoto disease (non-psychiatric drug)

 

First wave: 18.07.2023; immediate adverse reaction to sertraline and first CNS crash: 16.12.2023: late onset protracted withdrawal from bupropion: 13.04.2024; third crash: 16.07.2024; currently still in acute phase of PAWS as of September 2024

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5 hours ago, BaccatePlayer said:

Looks like you got similair symptoms that I did lately. Ironically, I also considered covid, but it was a false red herring. I think once your CNS gets instable, it's basically Pandora's box. You can get any symptom, whenever, be good for a few weeks, then worse than ever for a few months. Pretty much impossible to draw any conclusion from symptoms, their messages are mostly misleading. Anyone who's still in the process of tapering is actively making changes, so it's a very subjective game. I hope you stabilize soon. Please remember about not stressing about what you can't control.

@BaccatePlayer Thank you for those words of wisdom. It's made me realise that any thoughts of discontinuing at this point is a no no. Last Sunday I couldn't keep anything down, hence missing my dose, I didn't have any choice.

I hope you are improving, with all your symptoms you are still so supportive here. I appreciate your advice and I sincerely thank you.🙏😊

2008 10 mg Citalopram, 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide

2021 reduced Citalopram over three years,2023 5.2 mg Citalopram for approx. 1 year

Sept 2023 taken off Citalopram and bendroflumethiazide , put on Amitriptyline 10 mg and Ramipril 2.5 mg 

October 2023 taken off Amitriptyline and Ramipril put on Propranolol 10 mg

October 2023 put on Losartan 25 mg 

November 2023 taken off Losartan on Propranolol 10 mg 

December 2023 now on 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide + Citalopram 0.5 mg.

February 2024, taken off bendroflumethiazide, on bisoprolol 1.25 mg

February 2024, taken off bisoprolol, on ramipril 1.25 mg + 0.5mg Citalopram, stopped ramipril. June 2024 0.45 mg Citalopram. July 204 0.4 mg. ( nothing else).

 

 

 

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Hi everyone. I've been getting gut issues recent weeks, abdominal discomfort, stomach aches, cramps, bloating, constipation, diarrhoea, nausea etc. Has anyone had similar, if so is there anything you can recommend to ease symptoms? I had a full body CT Scan a few months ago plus an abdominal x ray when I had similar issues then, all was clear apart from two small gallstones. I know that withdrawal and stress can cause gut issues, how long it lasts I don't know. Any advice would be appreciated, thanks.😕🙏

2008 10 mg Citalopram, 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide

2021 reduced Citalopram over three years,2023 5.2 mg Citalopram for approx. 1 year

Sept 2023 taken off Citalopram and bendroflumethiazide , put on Amitriptyline 10 mg and Ramipril 2.5 mg 

October 2023 taken off Amitriptyline and Ramipril put on Propranolol 10 mg

October 2023 put on Losartan 25 mg 

November 2023 taken off Losartan on Propranolol 10 mg 

December 2023 now on 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide + Citalopram 0.5 mg.

February 2024, taken off bendroflumethiazide, on bisoprolol 1.25 mg

February 2024, taken off bisoprolol, on ramipril 1.25 mg + 0.5mg Citalopram, stopped ramipril. June 2024 0.45 mg Citalopram. July 204 0.4 mg. ( nothing else).

 

 

 

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Hello Sonia, thank you for the update. Sorry you're facing these issues, but it seems like all you can do is manage your stress and observe if certain foods irritate your digestive system more than necessary. It happened to me, sometimes seeming like the nervous system was firing all the paths to stomach and make me feel every single process happening inside. Maybe it's "checking" if we're safe with what we're consuming. It can go on for weeks, but I'm sure it'll at least change with time. For now, maybe a bit lighter diet? It's hard to go against the nature, but when it's withdrawal, you know that stomachaches doesn't mean something is wrong with the stomach, more like with brain signaling. I hope you cope the best you can, and also sending support to your husband.

22.10.2020 sertraline (50 upped to 100mg for two months) and pregabalin (150mg for half year)

2021 mirtazapine (30mg for some months), amitryptyline (cascading dose but doctor took me off it before reaching five tablets), olanzapine (5mg), lithium (this one I reacted to terribly as well, maybe due to my Hashimoto disease)

2022 duloxetine, reboxetine, venlafaxine (all unsuccessful attemps stopped after one day with no side effects following days, only reboxetine pushed through with one box)

2023 mainly bupropion (150mg stopped after few weeks, 300mg stopped after few another weeks, 150mg stopped after few months) until IAR, buspirone (5mg) tried for 3 days 

autumn 2023 - 150mg bupropion daily,

12.12.2023 - bupropion stopped,

16.12.2023 - 100mg sertraline,

18.12.2023 - 150mg bupropion,

19, 20 & 21.12.2023 - 150mg bupropion & 5mg buspirone,

Nothing ever since 21.12.2023, but 25mcg levothyroxine since around summer 2023 until 10.07.2024 for Hashimoto disease (non-psychiatric drug)

 

First wave: 18.07.2023; immediate adverse reaction to sertraline and first CNS crash: 16.12.2023: late onset protracted withdrawal from bupropion: 13.04.2024; third crash: 16.07.2024; currently still in acute phase of PAWS as of September 2024

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@BaccatePlayer Thank you for responding once more and your reassuring words. Sorry you had to go through this too. I'm going to try to slowly add more roughage to my diet and bland foods, seems this is the way to go for IBS or gallstones. I'm trying probiotics yoghurt too. I know I have two small gallstones, I think withdrawal could be mimicking IBS but I suspect stress is causing my problems. Listening to a doctor who appears on breakfast tv here, who said "when we are stressed we switch off the normal working of the bowels, everything stops, bowel becomes almost paralysed". I was almost relieved to hear it. He quoted a doctor when he was in training who said " no hurry, no worry, no curry" for a healthy digestive system.😂

How are you doing? Any improvement on your symptoms?

2008 10 mg Citalopram, 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide

2021 reduced Citalopram over three years,2023 5.2 mg Citalopram for approx. 1 year

Sept 2023 taken off Citalopram and bendroflumethiazide , put on Amitriptyline 10 mg and Ramipril 2.5 mg 

October 2023 taken off Amitriptyline and Ramipril put on Propranolol 10 mg

October 2023 put on Losartan 25 mg 

November 2023 taken off Losartan on Propranolol 10 mg 

December 2023 now on 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide + Citalopram 0.5 mg.

February 2024, taken off bendroflumethiazide, on bisoprolol 1.25 mg

February 2024, taken off bisoprolol, on ramipril 1.25 mg + 0.5mg Citalopram, stopped ramipril. June 2024 0.45 mg Citalopram. July 204 0.4 mg. ( nothing else).

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Sonia009 said:

@BaccatePlayer Thank you for responding once more and your reassuring words. Sorry you had to go through this too. I'm going to try to slowly add more roughage to my diet and bland foods, seems this is the way to go for IBS or gallstones. I'm trying probiotics yoghurt too. I know I have two small gallstones, I think withdrawal could be mimicking IBS but I suspect stress is causing my problems. Listening to a doctor who appears on breakfast tv here, who said "when we are stressed we switch off the normal working of the bowels, everything stops, bowel becomes almost paralysed". I was almost relieved to hear it. He quoted a doctor when he was in training who said " no hurry, no worry, no curry" for a healthy digestive system.😂

How are you doing? Any improvement on your symptoms?

This is very consistent with how waves usually make me feel like the digestion drastically slowed down. Same happens with tension headaches and tigtening of neck - mind expects our survival to be jeopardised. In withdrawal it can last very long. Not much improvement really, the mental symptoms are so severe I barely even realize it's all just edge of panic. Feeling sick, appendicits-like pains, huge dizziness, very wierd dreams, headaches, burning on almost whole head, tinnitus and I feel sleepy for pretty much all the time. Glad you're mentally feeling grounded with your issues, it's definitelly on its way to get better.

22.10.2020 sertraline (50 upped to 100mg for two months) and pregabalin (150mg for half year)

2021 mirtazapine (30mg for some months), amitryptyline (cascading dose but doctor took me off it before reaching five tablets), olanzapine (5mg), lithium (this one I reacted to terribly as well, maybe due to my Hashimoto disease)

2022 duloxetine, reboxetine, venlafaxine (all unsuccessful attemps stopped after one day with no side effects following days, only reboxetine pushed through with one box)

2023 mainly bupropion (150mg stopped after few weeks, 300mg stopped after few another weeks, 150mg stopped after few months) until IAR, buspirone (5mg) tried for 3 days 

autumn 2023 - 150mg bupropion daily,

12.12.2023 - bupropion stopped,

16.12.2023 - 100mg sertraline,

18.12.2023 - 150mg bupropion,

19, 20 & 21.12.2023 - 150mg bupropion & 5mg buspirone,

Nothing ever since 21.12.2023, but 25mcg levothyroxine since around summer 2023 until 10.07.2024 for Hashimoto disease (non-psychiatric drug)

 

First wave: 18.07.2023; immediate adverse reaction to sertraline and first CNS crash: 16.12.2023: late onset protracted withdrawal from bupropion: 13.04.2024; third crash: 16.07.2024; currently still in acute phase of PAWS as of September 2024

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9 minutes ago, BaccatePlayer said:

This is very consistent with how waves usually make me feel like the digestion drastically slowed down. Same happens with tension headaches and tigtening of neck - mind expects our survival to be jeopardised. In withdrawal it can last very long. Not much improvement really, the mental symptoms are so severe I barely even realize it's all just edge of panic. Feeling sick, appendicits-like pains, huge dizziness, very wierd dreams, headaches, burning on almost whole head, tinnitus and I feel sleepy for pretty much all the time. Glad you're mentally feeling grounded with your issues, it's definitelly on its way to get better.

@BaccatePlayer Sounds rough, so sorry. You could never tell you are going through these symptoms by reading your posts, you are so lucid in your comments. I too am still getting the symptoms you describe albeit perhaps on a lesser level, but I do manage to get some sleep which helps.😏 Husband still awake all night, pacing, aches and pains, dizziness, shivers and tremors, anxiety - all the horrible symptoms that is withdrawal. It amazes me how he can drive and not have symptoms. 

Hope things improve for you soon.🙏😊

2008 10 mg Citalopram, 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide

2021 reduced Citalopram over three years,2023 5.2 mg Citalopram for approx. 1 year

Sept 2023 taken off Citalopram and bendroflumethiazide , put on Amitriptyline 10 mg and Ramipril 2.5 mg 

October 2023 taken off Amitriptyline and Ramipril put on Propranolol 10 mg

October 2023 put on Losartan 25 mg 

November 2023 taken off Losartan on Propranolol 10 mg 

December 2023 now on 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide + Citalopram 0.5 mg.

February 2024, taken off bendroflumethiazide, on bisoprolol 1.25 mg

February 2024, taken off bisoprolol, on ramipril 1.25 mg + 0.5mg Citalopram, stopped ramipril. June 2024 0.45 mg Citalopram. July 204 0.4 mg. ( nothing else).

 

 

 

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It may help someone understand more clearly:

How to Taper Antidepressants to Avoid a Withdrawal (Discontinuation) Syndrome?

YouTube Psychiatry Simplified Dr Sanil Rege.

The above gives a good explanation and reference is given to Dr Mark Horowitz.

2008 10 mg Citalopram, 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide

2021 reduced Citalopram over three years,2023 5.2 mg Citalopram for approx. 1 year

Sept 2023 taken off Citalopram and bendroflumethiazide , put on Amitriptyline 10 mg and Ramipril 2.5 mg 

October 2023 taken off Amitriptyline and Ramipril put on Propranolol 10 mg

October 2023 put on Losartan 25 mg 

November 2023 taken off Losartan on Propranolol 10 mg 

December 2023 now on 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide + Citalopram 0.5 mg.

February 2024, taken off bendroflumethiazide, on bisoprolol 1.25 mg

February 2024, taken off bisoprolol, on ramipril 1.25 mg + 0.5mg Citalopram, stopped ramipril. June 2024 0.45 mg Citalopram. July 204 0.4 mg. ( nothing else).

 

 

 

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Hi everyone, hope you're all showing some improvement. 🙏 I'm feeling a little low right now, my dizziness has been worse for several days, balance off, digestive issues still, tearful, depressed. I've been on 0.4 mg Citalopram since reducing on 1st July this year. I wake up dizzy, it passes and I start feeling dizzy again about ten minutes later, I do my housework but not much else. My bp is normal. I take my dose at 10 am, no difference in how I feel after, sometimes worse even. I'm just thinking that if I'm dizzy without the med and dizzy with it should I just stop and ride it out. I don't seem to be getting anywhere. Sorry for the moan, just feeling awful. 😥

2008 10 mg Citalopram, 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide

2021 reduced Citalopram over three years,2023 5.2 mg Citalopram for approx. 1 year

Sept 2023 taken off Citalopram and bendroflumethiazide , put on Amitriptyline 10 mg and Ramipril 2.5 mg 

October 2023 taken off Amitriptyline and Ramipril put on Propranolol 10 mg

October 2023 put on Losartan 25 mg 

November 2023 taken off Losartan on Propranolol 10 mg 

December 2023 now on 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide + Citalopram 0.5 mg.

February 2024, taken off bendroflumethiazide, on bisoprolol 1.25 mg

February 2024, taken off bisoprolol, on ramipril 1.25 mg + 0.5mg Citalopram, stopped ramipril. June 2024 0.45 mg Citalopram. July 204 0.4 mg. ( nothing else).

 

 

 

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So, I tried to pull myself together and walked my dog for 45 minutes. It was a struggle but I did it and he loved it which made it all worthwhile. Took a shower and now I feel completely zapped. Stomach playing up too😒.

2008 10 mg Citalopram, 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide

2021 reduced Citalopram over three years,2023 5.2 mg Citalopram for approx. 1 year

Sept 2023 taken off Citalopram and bendroflumethiazide , put on Amitriptyline 10 mg and Ramipril 2.5 mg 

October 2023 taken off Amitriptyline and Ramipril put on Propranolol 10 mg

October 2023 put on Losartan 25 mg 

November 2023 taken off Losartan on Propranolol 10 mg 

December 2023 now on 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide + Citalopram 0.5 mg.

February 2024, taken off bendroflumethiazide, on bisoprolol 1.25 mg

February 2024, taken off bisoprolol, on ramipril 1.25 mg + 0.5mg Citalopram, stopped ramipril. June 2024 0.45 mg Citalopram. July 204 0.4 mg. ( nothing else).

 

 

 

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On 9/28/2024 at 6:32 AM, Sonia009 said:

How to Taper Antidepressants to Avoid a Withdrawal (Discontinuation) Syndrome?

Can you provide a link for this?  

1985-2010 (est.) - various ADs including Wellbutrin, Elavil, Prozac, Zoloft.  dosages unk.

1991-1992 - stopped AD while to conceive and during pregnancy.  Resumed 1993 (?).

2005 (est.) - tried to stop, severe symptoms.  Resumed meds.

2010 (est) - started Celexa (dose unk)

2016 (est) - started Effexor, working up to 112.5 mg/day.  Stayed at this dose for many years.

2023 - Feb. began linear tapering off Effexor. Switched to hyperbolic tapering in April 2023.  By July 12, 2024 at 1.36 mg / day.

July 13, 2024 - up-dosed to 1.44 mg / day to address severe withdrawal symptoms.  Felt somewhat better by next day; symptoms continue to improve.

Other meds:  75 mcg/day Levothyroxine for hypothyroidism

Supplements:  Vitamin D3 (5,000 IU), Boron, Magnesium Threonate (3 per day of 2000 mg with 145 mg Mg), Vitamin E (every other day), Lugol's iodine (4 drops/day); Omega 3's (currently 1 capsule Krill oil in morning, 2 capsules DHA-1000 Fish oil, one in afternoon and one in evening); Adrenal "cocktail" once or twice per day (– ¾ ts cream of tarter plus ¼ tsp Celtic salt dissolved in water.  Taken with Vitamin C.)

My Intro Topic:  Jane318: Tapering off Effexor - Struggling at the End

Heal me, O LORD, and I shall be healed.  Jeremiah 17:14a.

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@Jane318Hi Jane, I'm unable to provide the link on the device I'm using otherwise I would have, (Amazon Fire) but if you type in exactly what I have written down you will see the YouTube presentation by Dr Sanil Rege. He's done lots of YouTube presentations. I hope you will be able to locate it.🙂

2008 10 mg Citalopram, 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide

2021 reduced Citalopram over three years,2023 5.2 mg Citalopram for approx. 1 year

Sept 2023 taken off Citalopram and bendroflumethiazide , put on Amitriptyline 10 mg and Ramipril 2.5 mg 

October 2023 taken off Amitriptyline and Ramipril put on Propranolol 10 mg

October 2023 put on Losartan 25 mg 

November 2023 taken off Losartan on Propranolol 10 mg 

December 2023 now on 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide + Citalopram 0.5 mg.

February 2024, taken off bendroflumethiazide, on bisoprolol 1.25 mg

February 2024, taken off bisoprolol, on ramipril 1.25 mg + 0.5mg Citalopram, stopped ramipril. June 2024 0.45 mg Citalopram. July 204 0.4 mg. ( nothing else).

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Sonia009 said:

@Jane318Hi Jane, I'm unable to provide the link on the device I'm using otherwise I would have, (Amazon Fire) but if you type in exactly what I have written down you will see the YouTube presentation by Dr Sanil Rege. He's done lots of YouTube presentations. I hope you will be able to locate it.🙂

Thank you - was able to find it on YouTube.

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1985-2010 (est.) - various ADs including Wellbutrin, Elavil, Prozac, Zoloft.  dosages unk.

1991-1992 - stopped AD while to conceive and during pregnancy.  Resumed 1993 (?).

2005 (est.) - tried to stop, severe symptoms.  Resumed meds.

2010 (est) - started Celexa (dose unk)

2016 (est) - started Effexor, working up to 112.5 mg/day.  Stayed at this dose for many years.

2023 - Feb. began linear tapering off Effexor. Switched to hyperbolic tapering in April 2023.  By July 12, 2024 at 1.36 mg / day.

July 13, 2024 - up-dosed to 1.44 mg / day to address severe withdrawal symptoms.  Felt somewhat better by next day; symptoms continue to improve.

Other meds:  75 mcg/day Levothyroxine for hypothyroidism

Supplements:  Vitamin D3 (5,000 IU), Boron, Magnesium Threonate (3 per day of 2000 mg with 145 mg Mg), Vitamin E (every other day), Lugol's iodine (4 drops/day); Omega 3's (currently 1 capsule Krill oil in morning, 2 capsules DHA-1000 Fish oil, one in afternoon and one in evening); Adrenal "cocktail" once or twice per day (– ¾ ts cream of tarter plus ¼ tsp Celtic salt dissolved in water.  Taken with Vitamin C.)

My Intro Topic:  Jane318: Tapering off Effexor - Struggling at the End

Heal me, O LORD, and I shall be healed.  Jeremiah 17:14a.

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8 minutes ago, Jane318 said:

Thank you - was able to find it on YouTube.

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@Jane318 I'm glad you found it, I hope it was of some use to you.🙏😊

 

2008 10 mg Citalopram, 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide

2021 reduced Citalopram over three years,2023 5.2 mg Citalopram for approx. 1 year

Sept 2023 taken off Citalopram and bendroflumethiazide , put on Amitriptyline 10 mg and Ramipril 2.5 mg 

October 2023 taken off Amitriptyline and Ramipril put on Propranolol 10 mg

October 2023 put on Losartan 25 mg 

November 2023 taken off Losartan on Propranolol 10 mg 

December 2023 now on 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide + Citalopram 0.5 mg.

February 2024, taken off bendroflumethiazide, on bisoprolol 1.25 mg

February 2024, taken off bisoprolol, on ramipril 1.25 mg + 0.5mg Citalopram, stopped ramipril. June 2024 0.45 mg Citalopram. July 204 0.4 mg. ( nothing else).

 

 

 

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