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Hello, ive been strugling with anxiety since 15 im currently almost 21 ive had benzos prescriped and been on and off these type of drugs after covid i got hit with insane anxiety panic attacks and alot of stuff started seeking psychiatrist help got diagnoses properly with anxiety,stress disorder,adhd. Got put on various medicines but the one i sticked with was sertraline i didnt get any side effects everything was very nice the only problem was erectile dysfunction, so i got my dose up to 100mg and been taking it for like 9months and this year 2024/03/01 i quitted them cold turkey after my graduation. Yeah i know it was dumb but i was told you can “quit them whenever you want”. I was smoking weed too which really helped but i stopped shortly after my ssri discontinuation and on 2024/04/08 everything hit my ibs came back insanely badly anxiety suicidal thoughts and alot of **** ive lost like 11kg (still losing weight daily). Is ir even possible to feel withdrawals after a month? Everything sucks so much my gerd came back 5x times worse and ALOT of stuff the most insane pains in my stomach after eating the foods i could tolerate all the time. Bloating and alot of stuff and it just keeps going worse so now im wondering do i start doing them again and then slowly taper it? Im so lost right now the tinnitus is insane too wverything is so bad ive been to psychiatrics again but i dont trust them and i still didnt get a valid answer should i drink the antidepresants 100mg again or do 50mg or whatever and still they are saying that i shouldnt feel the side effects lol. So rn 2024/05/01 im going absolutely insane cant eat anything and stuxk without answers help me please

2019(bromezapam 3mg daily) aproximatly for a month or two.

2023-01-18 Sertraline 100mg - 2024-03-

01(cold turkey)

cannabis 2023-10-04 a gram a day till i felt sick on 2024-04-08 after drinking beer and hitting bongs (maybe chs?)
2023-01-18 aripriprazole 2.5mg ended about 2023-01-30 didnt like it made me fatigued

2023-03-01 diagnosed with adhd took concerta 18mg but it was giving me headaches so i stopped about 4 days in

2024-05-02 setraline 25mg after insane side effects which occured aproximatly 2024-05-03 12.5mg sertraline (couldnt sleep at all last night and alot of side effects and im not planning on taking more)

 

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Hello, and welcome to SA.  We are a volunteer-run community of people who have been or are getting off of psychiatric drugs.

 

Can you please give us specific information in your signature about your drug history for all drugs and supplements you are on and have been on, especially for the past 18-24 months?  Please only give us drug names, dosages, and dates, as best you can remember, in a list format.  Please read the link below for instructions.  

 

How to List Your Drug History in Your Signature

 

Here is some important information about how these drugs actually work.  This explains why we get symptoms from going off of these medications, and why it's so important to taper slowly and carefully, and be very cautious about changing our doses: 

 

How Psychiatric Drugs Remodel Your Brain

 

 

This helps you understand what withdrawal syndrome is: 

 

Video on Recovery from Psych Drugs

 

Windows and Waves Pattern of Stabilization

 

Once we see your specific drug history, we can give you suggestions about a possible reinstatement.  Hang in there, we will help you get through this.  

Please do not private message me.  Only tag me for urgent questions about tapering and reinstating - thank you.  

 

***Please note this is not medical advice.  Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a doctor who understands psych meds and how to withdraw from them, if you can find one.

 

Lexapro   Started Apr 15 2010 - 10 mg;  started taper August 2017, recent taper info: Apr 2 '20  0.18 mg; Jul 16  0.17 mg, Aug 23  0.16 mg, Oct 7  0.15 mg, Nov 8 - 0.14, Jan 16 '21 - 0.13, Feb 7 - 0.12, Feb 22 - 0.11, Mar 26 - 0.10, May 21 - 0.09, June 15 - 0.08 Aug 16 - 0.07, Oct 6 - 0.06, Nov 21 0.05, Dec. 17 0.04, Jan 14 '22 0.03, Feb 19 0.02, Apr 18 0.01, May 15 0.005,  Jul 8, 0.00.  Psych Drug Free as of July 8, 2022!!  Woohoo!!!

other meds: Levothyroxine 75 mg

magnesium in small amounts at 4 AM, before bed

suppl AM: fish oil, flax oil, vit C, vit E, multivitamin, zinc

suppl 8 PM: magnesium 350 mg, extended release vitamin C, melatonin 2 mg

 

Paxil 2002 - 2010, switched to Lexapro 2010 

Trazodone 50 mg. 2002 - 2019, fast tapered in 2019 

Xanax 0.5 mg as needed 2002 - 2019, up to 3x weekly 

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Hi,

I am no doctor and this is no medical advice. As far as I understood the information on this website, it is a good idea to reinstate the drug, when you experience withdrawal and not too much time has passed. The sooner you reinstate the better. The longer you are off the drug, the smaller the dose at reinstatement should be. If I understood you right, you are right now 2 month off 100mg sertraline cold turkey...you could try reinstating around 10mg, but determining this dose is more art than science...

 

For details see this thread

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/forums/topic/7562-about-reinstating-and-stabilizing-to-reduce-withdrawal-symptoms/?tab=comments#comment-33809

 

If you decide to reinstate, you will need to know how to obtain lower doses, since commercially available doses are usually much too high for tapering or reinstating. I think you can find information about this in the following thread

 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/forums/topic/1441-tips-for-tapering-zoloft-sertraline/#comment-13380

 

All the best

 

P.S.: Posting your drug history for getofflex is a good idea, since there might be other drugs involved in your current situation. As you experienced with sertraline some people quit a drug and are without symptoms for weeks or month and then experience a delayed onset of withdrawal.

Earlier drug history:

Paroxetine  2001 until 2003, quit cold turkey, don't remember dose; Venlafaxine 2005 until Dez. 2023, mostly 75mg xr per day, for about 4 years 37.5mg xr; quite a lot of Antihistamines because of allergy; there were other drugs that I don't remember all, but nothing what I consistently took over a longer period of time, for example Lorazepam 0.5mg prn.

Recent developments:

Dez 2023 - 03/13/2024 quitting Venlafaxine 75mg (skipping doses); 04/07/2024 reinstating Venlafaxine 12,5mg; 04/17/2024 Venlafaxine 25mg; 4/29/24 until 5/4/24 Trimipramine, 5mg going down to zero over 5 days

Drugs right now:

Venlafaxine 25mg; supplements: 500mg magnesium, 100mg aspirin and melatonin spray

 

I am no medical expert. I am dependent on Venlafaxine, trying to find and give peer support in this community and simply giving my opinion. Double check any information before you take action, for example with your doctor.

 

First they sell addictive drugs as harmless and then they leave you alone dosing fractions of a mg correctly or plunging into the abyss.

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hey forgot to mention but sertraline didnt give me any side effects except the erectile dysfuction but it wasnt that severe as other people had it. Today i took a half tablet of asentra sertraline 50mg (25mg) and right now i dont even remember how fast i dosed up but i think i went from about 25mg to 100mg in a month (my jaw was clentching for couple weeks i remember and my whole life was soo bright and alot of bad stuff went away. been taking it till 2024-03-01 but in that time i got put on antipsychotics but i used like 6 tablets max because it made me extremely fatigued and only sticked with sertraline. got diagnosed with adhd tried concerta because i still had some slight problems. today the symptoms were loss of apetite which probably caused my acid reflux to be very bad my IBS is extremely bad cant eat 90% food without bloating what really helps is oven baked potatoes. today around 15:00 pm i took that sertraline and right now 19:00pm i randomly had an apetite my stomach started hurting but its probably because its extremely empty. And i found out walks help me alot so ive been walking at evenings about 6kms a day. Kinda crazy when i aint eating anything. And forgot to mention while i started taking SSRI i got hooked on weed to be honest went on and off but always came back but now im tobacco free for 3 stopped weed, and i dont really drink never liked it.

2019(bromezapam 3mg daily) aproximatly for a month or two.

2023-01-18 Sertraline 100mg - 2024-03-

01(cold turkey)

cannabis 2023-10-04 a gram a day till i felt sick on 2024-04-08 after drinking beer and hitting bongs (maybe chs?)
2023-01-18 aripriprazole 2.5mg ended about 2023-01-30 didnt like it made me fatigued

2023-03-01 diagnosed with adhd took concerta 18mg but it was giving me headaches so i stopped about 4 days in

2024-05-02 setraline 25mg after insane side effects which occured aproximatly 2024-05-03 12.5mg sertraline (couldnt sleep at all last night and alot of side effects and im not planning on taking more)

 

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hey forgot to mention but sertraline didnt give me any side effects except the erectile dysfuction but it wasnt that severe as other people had it. Today i took a half tablet of asentra sertraline 50mg (25mg) and right now i dont even remember how fast i dosed up but i think i went from about 25mg to 100mg in a month (my jaw was clentching for couple weeks i remember and my whole life was soo bright and alot of bad stuff went away. been taking it till 2024-03-01 but in that time i got put on antipsychotics but i used like 6 tablets max because it made me extremely fatigued and only sticked with sertraline. got diagnosed with adhd tried concerta because i still had some slight problems. today the symptoms were loss of apetite which probably caused my acid reflux to be very bad my IBS is extremely bad cant eat 90% food without bloating what really helps is oven baked potatoes. today around 15:00 pm i took that sertraline and right now 19:00pm i randomly had an apetite my stomach started hurting but its probably because its extremely empty. And i found out walks help me alot so ive been walking at evenings about 6kms a day. Kinda crazy when i aint eating anything. And forgot to mention while i started taking SSRI i got hooked on weed to be honest went on and off but always came back but now im tobacco free for 3 stopped weed, and i dont really drink never liked it.

update 22:00pm my pupils are wide and im kinda freaking out and kinda enjoying this my stomach feels okay like nothing happened maybe i even want to eat something should i do 25mg tomorow again or do 12.5mg because these effects never happened when i started taking it

2019(bromezapam 3mg daily) aproximatly for a month or two.

2023-01-18 Sertraline 100mg - 2024-03-

01(cold turkey)

cannabis 2023-10-04 a gram a day till i felt sick on 2024-04-08 after drinking beer and hitting bongs (maybe chs?)
2023-01-18 aripriprazole 2.5mg ended about 2023-01-30 didnt like it made me fatigued

2023-03-01 diagnosed with adhd took concerta 18mg but it was giving me headaches so i stopped about 4 days in

2024-05-02 setraline 25mg after insane side effects which occured aproximatly 2024-05-03 12.5mg sertraline (couldnt sleep at all last night and alot of side effects and im not planning on taking more)

 

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4 hours ago, Kajus said:

right now i dont even remember how fast i dosed up but i think i went from about 25mg to 100mg in a month

What is the date that you did this? Please add this to your signature, with specific dates.  

 

4 hours ago, Kajus said:

been taking it till 2024-03-01 but in that time i got put on antipsychotics but i used like 6 tablets max because it made me extremely fatigued and only sticked with sertraline.

This information is very important, and it should also be in the drug signature.  

 

41 minutes ago, Kajus said:

got diagnosed with adhd tried concerta because i still had some slight problems

WE also need this in your drug signature.  

 

It is very important to be thorough and complete in your drug signature, or we cannot help you properly.  We can only give you good advice if we have all of your drug information.  

 

Are you currently on any other drug besides the 25 mg sertraline that you reinstated today? 

 

 

Please do not private message me.  Only tag me for urgent questions about tapering and reinstating - thank you.  

 

***Please note this is not medical advice.  Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a doctor who understands psych meds and how to withdraw from them, if you can find one.

 

Lexapro   Started Apr 15 2010 - 10 mg;  started taper August 2017, recent taper info: Apr 2 '20  0.18 mg; Jul 16  0.17 mg, Aug 23  0.16 mg, Oct 7  0.15 mg, Nov 8 - 0.14, Jan 16 '21 - 0.13, Feb 7 - 0.12, Feb 22 - 0.11, Mar 26 - 0.10, May 21 - 0.09, June 15 - 0.08 Aug 16 - 0.07, Oct 6 - 0.06, Nov 21 0.05, Dec. 17 0.04, Jan 14 '22 0.03, Feb 19 0.02, Apr 18 0.01, May 15 0.005,  Jul 8, 0.00.  Psych Drug Free as of July 8, 2022!!  Woohoo!!!

other meds: Levothyroxine 75 mg

magnesium in small amounts at 4 AM, before bed

suppl AM: fish oil, flax oil, vit C, vit E, multivitamin, zinc

suppl 8 PM: magnesium 350 mg, extended release vitamin C, melatonin 2 mg

 

Paxil 2002 - 2010, switched to Lexapro 2010 

Trazodone 50 mg. 2002 - 2019, fast tapered in 2019 

Xanax 0.5 mg as needed 2002 - 2019, up to 3x weekly 

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Okay so im freaking out right now i took 12.5mg sertraline 3 hours ago and in feeling like on mdma my pupils dilated the anxiety is 5x worse than before i dont know should i keep doing this. I have bromezapam 3mg if that would help ease up the symptoms

2019(bromezapam 3mg daily) aproximatly for a month or two.

2023-01-18 Sertraline 100mg - 2024-03-

01(cold turkey)

cannabis 2023-10-04 a gram a day till i felt sick on 2024-04-08 after drinking beer and hitting bongs (maybe chs?)
2023-01-18 aripriprazole 2.5mg ended about 2023-01-30 didnt like it made me fatigued

2023-03-01 diagnosed with adhd took concerta 18mg but it was giving me headaches so i stopped about 4 days in

2024-05-02 setraline 25mg after insane side effects which occured aproximatly 2024-05-03 12.5mg sertraline (couldnt sleep at all last night and alot of side effects and im not planning on taking more)

 

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Did you feel better on 25mg? Why did you change the dose? (I jumped myself with my reinstatement dose because I wished to feel better and I don't think it was a good idea, jumping doses is stressful for the nervous system. It's better to get yourself equipped so that you can change doses gradually).

 

Benzodiazepines like Bromazepam are really dangerous drugs. You can become dependent very fast. It might be justified in special situations, but in my experience you then have "to pay back" the next day with increased anxiety and insomnia.

 

P.S.: Reinstatement does not mean that you instantly feel good. But you should feel somewhat better or it is a good sign if you feel somewhat better afterwards. But I guess reinstatement can also mean stress...maybe because the 25mg was too high...but maybe also simply because withdrawal and reinstatement are pretty rough and frightening emotional experiences. Try to calm down, observe yourself, write a precise drug history and try to get yourself equipped so that you can dose sertralin more gradually.

Earlier drug history:

Paroxetine  2001 until 2003, quit cold turkey, don't remember dose; Venlafaxine 2005 until Dez. 2023, mostly 75mg xr per day, for about 4 years 37.5mg xr; quite a lot of Antihistamines because of allergy; there were other drugs that I don't remember all, but nothing what I consistently took over a longer period of time, for example Lorazepam 0.5mg prn.

Recent developments:

Dez 2023 - 03/13/2024 quitting Venlafaxine 75mg (skipping doses); 04/07/2024 reinstating Venlafaxine 12,5mg; 04/17/2024 Venlafaxine 25mg; 4/29/24 until 5/4/24 Trimipramine, 5mg going down to zero over 5 days

Drugs right now:

Venlafaxine 25mg; supplements: 500mg magnesium, 100mg aspirin and melatonin spray

 

I am no medical expert. I am dependent on Venlafaxine, trying to find and give peer support in this community and simply giving my opinion. Double check any information before you take action, for example with your doctor.

 

First they sell addictive drugs as harmless and then they leave you alone dosing fractions of a mg correctly or plunging into the abyss.

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Took 12,5mg today full blown out anxiety attack i dont want to take these drugs  anymore i dont know what to do

2019(bromezapam 3mg daily) aproximatly for a month or two.

2023-01-18 Sertraline 100mg - 2024-03-

01(cold turkey)

cannabis 2023-10-04 a gram a day till i felt sick on 2024-04-08 after drinking beer and hitting bongs (maybe chs?)
2023-01-18 aripriprazole 2.5mg ended about 2023-01-30 didnt like it made me fatigued

2023-03-01 diagnosed with adhd took concerta 18mg but it was giving me headaches so i stopped about 4 days in

2024-05-02 setraline 25mg after insane side effects which occured aproximatly 2024-05-03 12.5mg sertraline (couldnt sleep at all last night and alot of side effects and im not planning on taking more)

 

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It's difficult to tell you because there are so many things we don't know.

 

When I experienced withdrawal I was pretty sure that it was withdrawal since I had brain zaps. I had no problem with my stomach and I also lost 7kg from 82kg to 75kg during 4 weeks of withdrawal. When I reinstated my withdrawal symptoms went away (mainly brain zaps, crying spells and depression) and I then had a massive surge in anxiety, tension and insomnia. I still believe that reinstating was the right choice in my case. I believe things would have become worse otherwise since my condition was deteriorating at that time. And now I am very very slowly recovering. I put on weight again and try to learn to handle the situation.

 

The most important question you have to answer is whether you think you experienced sertralin withdrawal (or something else) since 2024/04/08. If your answer is yes I think most people here say that reinstating is a good idea. You could try to stay at 12.5mg for the time being and slowly adjust afterwards.

In that case it would be helpful to compare the symptoms you experienced since 2024/04/08 with the symptoms you experience the next couple of days.

However, fear, anxiety, tension and insomnia are symptoms that are difficult to interpret in this respect. I would therefore focus on observing other symptoms first.

 

If you don't think you experienced sertralin withdrawal you could drop the medication again. It probably would be good then to go and see a doctor (which you might do anyway) to let him search for possible physical causes of your illnes.

Earlier drug history:

Paroxetine  2001 until 2003, quit cold turkey, don't remember dose; Venlafaxine 2005 until Dez. 2023, mostly 75mg xr per day, for about 4 years 37.5mg xr; quite a lot of Antihistamines because of allergy; there were other drugs that I don't remember all, but nothing what I consistently took over a longer period of time, for example Lorazepam 0.5mg prn.

Recent developments:

Dez 2023 - 03/13/2024 quitting Venlafaxine 75mg (skipping doses); 04/07/2024 reinstating Venlafaxine 12,5mg; 04/17/2024 Venlafaxine 25mg; 4/29/24 until 5/4/24 Trimipramine, 5mg going down to zero over 5 days

Drugs right now:

Venlafaxine 25mg; supplements: 500mg magnesium, 100mg aspirin and melatonin spray

 

I am no medical expert. I am dependent on Venlafaxine, trying to find and give peer support in this community and simply giving my opinion. Double check any information before you take action, for example with your doctor.

 

First they sell addictive drugs as harmless and then they leave you alone dosing fractions of a mg correctly or plunging into the abyss.

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Hi @Kajus,

how are you?

 

According to your drug signature it looks to me as if sertraline is the main suspect. You should avoid cannabis and alcohol in any case and search further for possible other factors causing your condition. What symptoms did and do you experience that are not related to anxiety, tension and insomnia?

 

Some people need years to get off antidepressants safely. What is in your favor is that you are young and have taken sertraline for about "only" 1 year. What is against you is that you used cannabis and alcohol and came off a pretty high dose cold turkey experiencing symptoms that are not unusual for withdrawal (anxiety, weight loss for example).

 

When taking antidepressants our brain happens to physically adapt and change during this process. Making these changes undone can be a lengthy and difficult process and some people crash terribly when their brain gets the substance abruptly withdrawn that it previously adapted to. The problem I was in and you are probably also in is that if you cold turkey there is no smooth way back to a gradual tapering process. Anything you will do will be somewhat disruptive to your nervous system.

 

When I experienced withdrawal, I was sure that it was withdrawal and I was sure that I cannot go on like this. I felt like this is destroying me. Before withdrawal I did sports 4 times a week. During withdrawal not once. I just couldn't do it and felt too weak. I didn't eat and lost a lot of weight. When after 4 weeks I saw no signs of improvement, I thought the best bet I have is reinstating the drug. I thought when I need to go to hospital they will drug me anyway and probably a lot more. I lost now about 8 weeks of my life and I am still recovering. But things are somewhat better now. I put on weight again and the anxiety and insomnia seems to be receding.

 

I am still trying to learn how to deal with the tension, anxiety and insomnia. Here are some things that are discussed in this community with respect to this:

 

-rest a lot and stay away from negativity and stress

-if you can, do light exercise like walking 30 minutes per day

-try to find faith (in God or something else you are able to believe in) and focus on every single day

-take measures to keep your bedroom dark in the morning, if that's not possible get an eyemask

-use earplugs for sleeping

-magnesium

-omega 3 fish oil

-melatonin

-100mg aspirin at the evening

-Lactium

-phosphatidyl serine

 

If you get suicidal, seek help - no matter if it will set you back in your way to get rid off the drugs. Before getting suicidal  I also think it is justified to take Bromazepam. However taking Bromazepam for more then 3-4 days bears a lot of risk.

 

Earlier drug history:

Paroxetine  2001 until 2003, quit cold turkey, don't remember dose; Venlafaxine 2005 until Dez. 2023, mostly 75mg xr per day, for about 4 years 37.5mg xr; quite a lot of Antihistamines because of allergy; there were other drugs that I don't remember all, but nothing what I consistently took over a longer period of time, for example Lorazepam 0.5mg prn.

Recent developments:

Dez 2023 - 03/13/2024 quitting Venlafaxine 75mg (skipping doses); 04/07/2024 reinstating Venlafaxine 12,5mg; 04/17/2024 Venlafaxine 25mg; 4/29/24 until 5/4/24 Trimipramine, 5mg going down to zero over 5 days

Drugs right now:

Venlafaxine 25mg; supplements: 500mg magnesium, 100mg aspirin and melatonin spray

 

I am no medical expert. I am dependent on Venlafaxine, trying to find and give peer support in this community and simply giving my opinion. Double check any information before you take action, for example with your doctor.

 

First they sell addictive drugs as harmless and then they leave you alone dosing fractions of a mg correctly or plunging into the abyss.

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23 hours ago, Kajus said:

Took 12,5mg today full blown out anxiety attack i dont want to take these drugs  anymore i dont know what to do

Thank you for adding all your drugs to your signature.  

 

I believe you could be helped by taking a small dose of sertraline. If you read my link above "How Psychiatric Drugs Remodel Your Brain", you will see why this is so.  Your brain has adapted itself to function in the presence of the drug.  Going cold turkey is like ripping a trellis away from a vine.  The vine will be in pretty bad shape for a while.  

 

I would suggest that you take 12.5 mg of sertraline.  It's important to take the dose consistently, and not skip or miss any doses.  Take it at the same time each and every day.  Please be precise in your dosing.  It takes about 4 days for the drug to reach steady state in your blood stream, and a few days for it to register with your brain, so please be patient.  This link will explain about reinstatement.  

 

About Reinstating and Stabilizing to Reduce Withdrawal Symptoms

 

This link will help you know the techniques to get a precise and accurate dose, which is important: 

 

Dosing and Tapering Sertraline

 

Consistency and stability are very important!  Please read this link.  

 

Keep It Simple, Slow, and Stable

 

After you have been on the 12.5 mg sertraline for a while, and your system has stabilized, then you can begin a slow and cautious taper off of this. 

 

 

Edited by getofflex

Please do not private message me.  Only tag me for urgent questions about tapering and reinstating - thank you.  

 

***Please note this is not medical advice.  Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a doctor who understands psych meds and how to withdraw from them, if you can find one.

 

Lexapro   Started Apr 15 2010 - 10 mg;  started taper August 2017, recent taper info: Apr 2 '20  0.18 mg; Jul 16  0.17 mg, Aug 23  0.16 mg, Oct 7  0.15 mg, Nov 8 - 0.14, Jan 16 '21 - 0.13, Feb 7 - 0.12, Feb 22 - 0.11, Mar 26 - 0.10, May 21 - 0.09, June 15 - 0.08 Aug 16 - 0.07, Oct 6 - 0.06, Nov 21 0.05, Dec. 17 0.04, Jan 14 '22 0.03, Feb 19 0.02, Apr 18 0.01, May 15 0.005,  Jul 8, 0.00.  Psych Drug Free as of July 8, 2022!!  Woohoo!!!

other meds: Levothyroxine 75 mg

magnesium in small amounts at 4 AM, before bed

suppl AM: fish oil, flax oil, vit C, vit E, multivitamin, zinc

suppl 8 PM: magnesium 350 mg, extended release vitamin C, melatonin 2 mg

 

Paxil 2002 - 2010, switched to Lexapro 2010 

Trazodone 50 mg. 2002 - 2019, fast tapered in 2019 

Xanax 0.5 mg as needed 2002 - 2019, up to 3x weekly 

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