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Every bit of research I’ve done into this condition is well described by this psychiatrist in the below video. It explains how allostatic load, cortisol, noradrenaline is effected in withdrawls. It’s a long video but a good watch. It also explains worsening withdrawals from re-instatements which happens in some people.

 

One of the best explanations I’ve come so far along with some treatment options towards the end of the video.

 

https://youtu.be/mDAvvcm4hJw?si=lGrmHAGmJLfKUPPr

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1 hour ago, AmitV said:

One of the best explanations I’ve come so far along with some treatment options towards the end of the video.  https://youtu.be/mDAvvcm4hJw?si=lGrmHAGmJLfKUPPr

I agree - thank you for sharing this.

I am not a doctor. My comments are based on my personal experience with ADs and tapering. Consult your doctor about your own medical decisions.

My Intro Topic:  Jane318: Tapering off Effexor - Struggling at the End.  Heal me, O LORD, and I shall be healed.  Jeremiah 17:14a.

Other meds:  75 mcg/day Levothyroxine for hypothyroidism

Supplements:  Boron, Magnesium Threonate (3 per day of 2000 mg with 145 mg Mg), Vitamin E (every other day), Lugol's iodine (4 drops/day); Cod liver oil (1 tsp); 1 capsule DHA-1000 Fish oil in evening; Adrenal "cocktail" once or twice pd, with Vit C, B-2 (SP Cataplex, 2X daily), and Methyl B-12 (NOWFoods 1,000 mcg, 1X daily).

AD HISTORY:

1985-2010 (est.) - various ADs including Wellbutrin, Elavil, Prozac, Zoloft.  dosages unk.  1991-1992 - stopped AD while to conceive and during pregnancy.  Resumed 1993 (?).

2005 (est.) - tried to stop, severe symptoms.  Resumed meds.  2010 (est) - started Celexa (dose unk).  2016 (est) - started Effexor, working up to 112.5 mg/day.  Stayed at this dose for many years.

2023 - Feb. began linear tapering off Effexor. Switched to hyperbolic tapering in April 2023.  By July 12, 2024 at 1.36 mg / day.

July 13, 2024 - up-dosed to 1.44 mg / day Effexor to address severe withdrawal symptoms.  Felt somewhat better by next day; symptoms continue to improve.  Held until 21 Dec, final dose 1.4 mg/day)

Jan 2025 - 1.36 -> 1.33 -> 1.29 -> 1.25 mg/day Effexor (10% per BrassMonkey slide taper).  Holding 3 weeks.

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Sorry, Dr. Sanil Rege making a lot of stuff up, sounding very sciencey as they do. Please taper.

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now that I finished watching this - seeing that at the end he is stating slow tapering can be the wrong solution in some instances - certainly muddies the water.  But his alternative is more drugs.  NOT!

I am not a doctor. My comments are based on my personal experience with ADs and tapering. Consult your doctor about your own medical decisions.

My Intro Topic:  Jane318: Tapering off Effexor - Struggling at the End.  Heal me, O LORD, and I shall be healed.  Jeremiah 17:14a.

Other meds:  75 mcg/day Levothyroxine for hypothyroidism

Supplements:  Boron, Magnesium Threonate (3 per day of 2000 mg with 145 mg Mg), Vitamin E (every other day), Lugol's iodine (4 drops/day); Cod liver oil (1 tsp); 1 capsule DHA-1000 Fish oil in evening; Adrenal "cocktail" once or twice pd, with Vit C, B-2 (SP Cataplex, 2X daily), and Methyl B-12 (NOWFoods 1,000 mcg, 1X daily).

AD HISTORY:

1985-2010 (est.) - various ADs including Wellbutrin, Elavil, Prozac, Zoloft.  dosages unk.  1991-1992 - stopped AD while to conceive and during pregnancy.  Resumed 1993 (?).

2005 (est.) - tried to stop, severe symptoms.  Resumed meds.  2010 (est) - started Celexa (dose unk).  2016 (est) - started Effexor, working up to 112.5 mg/day.  Stayed at this dose for many years.

2023 - Feb. began linear tapering off Effexor. Switched to hyperbolic tapering in April 2023.  By July 12, 2024 at 1.36 mg / day.

July 13, 2024 - up-dosed to 1.44 mg / day Effexor to address severe withdrawal symptoms.  Felt somewhat better by next day; symptoms continue to improve.  Held until 21 Dec, final dose 1.4 mg/day)

Jan 2025 - 1.36 -> 1.33 -> 1.29 -> 1.25 mg/day Effexor (10% per BrassMonkey slide taper).  Holding 3 weeks.

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