ArunLex Posted October 11, 2024 Posted October 11, 2024 Hii Everyone, I have taken vortioxetine 10mg for 2 months and stop taken it and my doctor prescribed Lexapro 15mg for 1 month and 20mg for 3 months.and i started withdrawing from lexapro and Currently now I am in 5MG Lexapro. I am currently at 5mg and having severe waves and windows of withdrawal symptoms like DPDR and feeling of low motivation. Can I Withdraw it down to 2.5mg and then down to 1.25mg dose and then can i stop taken it. I am unsure about whether I should follow this approach to taper my meds.. Arun M Started on Vortioxetine. 18/09/2023 - Vortioxetine (10mg). 18/09/23 to 12/11/23 - Vortioxetine(Discontinued) 13/11/2023 to 30/11/2023 - Lexapro(15mg). Then 01/12/2023 to 28/02/2024 - Lexapro(20mg). Started Tapering Lexapro.. 01/03 to 30/04- 15mg . 01/05 to 25/09 - 10mg. 26/09 to 08/10 - 7.5mg. 09/10 to 03/11 - 5mg. 04/11 to 21/11 - 3.75mg. 22/11 to 7/12 - 2.5mg. 08/12 to 24/12 - 1.875mg. 25/12 to till now - 1.25mg.
Administrator Emonda Posted October 11, 2024 Administrator Posted October 11, 2024 Hi @ArunLex So the moderators can best help you, please complete your drug signature by following these instructions. Adding a signature ensures your drug history appears at the bottom of every post, making it more efficient for those trying to assist. This link should go directly to your own signature: Account Settings – Create or Edit a signature So you have been taking an AD (two different types) for ~ 6 months in total? You've made quite a few changes in a short period of time. You mention you are experiencing severe WD symptoms: Daily Checklist of Antidepressant Withdrawal Symptoms (PDF) 4 hours ago, ArunLex said: having severe waves and windows of withdrawal symptoms like DPDR and feeling of low motivation. 4 hours ago, ArunLex said: Can I Withdraw it down to 2.5mg and then down to 1.25mg dose and then can i stop taken it. I am unsure about whether I should follow this approach to taper my meds.. It might be best to pause your taper and let your body catch up. Slow is the way to go with tapering. Why taper by 10% of my dosage? The reductions should get smaller and smaller each month, for example: 10mg, 9mg, 8.1mg, 7.3mg etc. This process involves a degree of trial and error, as there is no way of predicting how an individual will respond. Importantly, if you develop unpleasant side effects from tapering, halt the taper, give yourself time to settle, and once stable, taper more slowly and by smaller amounts moving forward. The experience of others suggests that the lower you go in dose, the slower you need to go with tapering. Emonda Please don't send me PMs. I am not a doctor. My comments are based on my personal experience with ADs and tapering. Consult your doctor about your own medical decisions. Start of taper: Jan ’22 Vortioxetine 15mg End year 1: 4.5mg End year 2: 2.38mg End year 3: 1.16mg Year 4: The brassmonkey slide continues...
Administrator Emonda Posted October 14, 2024 Administrator Posted October 14, 2024 Dear @ArunLex Please post your questions here rather than via PM. Please add your drug signature here by following the instructions above. There are only a handful of volunteer Moderators on this site, with 22,000 members. Some of the Moderators (me included) have limited activity on the site on the weekend. We need to look after ourselves so that we are in a position to try and help others. I'll keep an eye out for your next post here...but I generally only login once per day...so there may be a delay in me responding. Warm wishes, Emonda Please don't send me PMs. I am not a doctor. My comments are based on my personal experience with ADs and tapering. Consult your doctor about your own medical decisions. Start of taper: Jan ’22 Vortioxetine 15mg End year 1: 4.5mg End year 2: 2.38mg End year 3: 1.16mg Year 4: The brassmonkey slide continues...
Administrator Emonda Posted October 15, 2024 Administrator Posted October 15, 2024 Dear @ArunLex This is the place to ask questions about yourself. Please post here. Regards, Emonda Please don't send me PMs. I am not a doctor. My comments are based on my personal experience with ADs and tapering. Consult your doctor about your own medical decisions. Start of taper: Jan ’22 Vortioxetine 15mg End year 1: 4.5mg End year 2: 2.38mg End year 3: 1.16mg Year 4: The brassmonkey slide continues...
ArunLex Posted October 16, 2024 Author Posted October 16, 2024 12 hours ago, Emonda said: Dear @ArunLex This is the place to ask questions about yourself. Please post here. Regards, Emonda I am currently at 5mg and currently doing well (somehow managed dpdr and low motivation). Can I Withdraw it down to 2.5mg and then down to 1.25mg dose and then go to 0.625mg then can i stop taken it. I'm in 5mg lexapro Recepter occupancy - 58 2.5mg - RO - 43 1.25mg - RO - 28 0.625mg - RO - 17 Overall I am planning to do 15% reduction... Can IT BE SAFE ??.. There is no liquid dose in our surrounding hospital so i use pill cutter to cut into half and quarter and taken.. I am unsure about whether I should follow this approach to taper my meds.. Arun M Started on Vortioxetine. 18/09/2023 - Vortioxetine (10mg). 18/09/23 to 12/11/23 - Vortioxetine(Discontinued) 13/11/2023 to 30/11/2023 - Lexapro(15mg). Then 01/12/2023 to 28/02/2024 - Lexapro(20mg). Started Tapering Lexapro.. 01/03 to 30/04- 15mg . 01/05 to 25/09 - 10mg. 26/09 to 08/10 - 7.5mg. 09/10 to 03/11 - 5mg. 04/11 to 21/11 - 3.75mg. 22/11 to 7/12 - 2.5mg. 08/12 to 24/12 - 1.875mg. 25/12 to till now - 1.25mg.
ArunLex Posted October 16, 2024 Author Posted October 16, 2024 12 hours ago, Emonda said: Dear @ArunLex This is the place to ask questions about yourself. Please post here. Regards, Emonda Can i ask questions to someone, who done successful lexapro taper.. Can i message in successfull taper page??? Arun M Started on Vortioxetine. 18/09/2023 - Vortioxetine (10mg). 18/09/23 to 12/11/23 - Vortioxetine(Discontinued) 13/11/2023 to 30/11/2023 - Lexapro(15mg). Then 01/12/2023 to 28/02/2024 - Lexapro(20mg). Started Tapering Lexapro.. 01/03 to 30/04- 15mg . 01/05 to 25/09 - 10mg. 26/09 to 08/10 - 7.5mg. 09/10 to 03/11 - 5mg. 04/11 to 21/11 - 3.75mg. 22/11 to 7/12 - 2.5mg. 08/12 to 24/12 - 1.875mg. 25/12 to till now - 1.25mg.
Administrator Emonda Posted October 16, 2024 Administrator Posted October 16, 2024 Hi ArunLex, Step 1: Please add your drug signature. Instructions can be found in my first post. For people to be able to try and help you, they need to see your drug signature. 3 minutes ago, ArunLex said: Can I Withdraw it down to 2.5mg and then down to 1.25mg dose and then go to 0.625mg then can i stop taken it. 4 minutes ago, ArunLex said: Overall I am planning to do 15% reduction... Can IT BE SAFE ??.. I wouldn't do that. Please read the link in my first post: Why taper by 10% of my dosage? 4 minutes ago, ArunLex said: There is no liquid dose in our surrounding hospital so i use pill cutter to cut into half and quarter and taken.. Accuracy and consistency are vitally important. You should read this: 2 minutes ago, ArunLex said: Can i ask questions to someone, who done successful lexapro taper.. Can i message in successfull taper page??? You can, however, any specific questions about your dose and the decisions that you need to make need to be in your topic. By keeping everything relating to yourself in one spot, it makes it easier for others to help you. The question you previously tried to ask in the success stories, are to be kept here. Warm wishes, Emonda Please don't send me PMs. I am not a doctor. My comments are based on my personal experience with ADs and tapering. Consult your doctor about your own medical decisions. Start of taper: Jan ’22 Vortioxetine 15mg End year 1: 4.5mg End year 2: 2.38mg End year 3: 1.16mg Year 4: The brassmonkey slide continues...
ArunLex Posted October 16, 2024 Author Posted October 16, 2024 4 hours ago, Emonda said: Hi ArunLex, Step 1: Please add your drug signature. Instructions can be found in my first post. For people to be able to try and help you, they need to see your drug signature. I wouldn't do that. Please read the link in my first post: Why taper by 10% of my dosage? Accuracy and consistency are vitally important. You should read this: You can, however, any specific questions about your dose and the decisions that you need to make need to be in your topic. By keeping everything relating to yourself in one spot, it makes it easier for others to help you. The question you previously tried to ask in the success stories, are to be kept here. Warm wishes, Emonda 4 hours ago, Emonda said: Hi ArunLex, Step 1: Please add your drug signature. Instructions can be found in my first post. For people to be able to try and help you, they need to see your drug signature. I wouldn't do that. Please read the link in my first post: Why taper by 10% of my dosage? Accuracy and consistency are vitally important. You should read this: You can, however, any specific questions about your dose and the decisions that you need to make need to be in your topic. By keeping everything relating to yourself in one spot, it makes it easier for others to help you. The question you previously tried to ask in the success stories, are to be kept here. Warm wishes, Emonda Done .. Okay thanks emonda. Arun M Started on Vortioxetine. 18/09/2023 - Vortioxetine (10mg). 18/09/23 to 12/11/23 - Vortioxetine(Discontinued) 13/11/2023 to 30/11/2023 - Lexapro(15mg). Then 01/12/2023 to 28/02/2024 - Lexapro(20mg). Started Tapering Lexapro.. 01/03 to 30/04- 15mg . 01/05 to 25/09 - 10mg. 26/09 to 08/10 - 7.5mg. 09/10 to 03/11 - 5mg. 04/11 to 21/11 - 3.75mg. 22/11 to 7/12 - 2.5mg. 08/12 to 24/12 - 1.875mg. 25/12 to till now - 1.25mg.
ArunLex Posted October 16, 2024 Author Posted October 16, 2024 Hii @Emonda @KenA I am now in 5mg lexapro dose.. I am currently struggling in DpDr like Symptoms.. Can you help me Completely recover from Derealization symptoms. Always I feel like living in unreal world. I Always Think more like living in a dream state( I Accept it but not completely recover.)..... OR After Complete taper of lexapro (IT WILL GO ???)... I THOUGHT THIS Problem comes with ZAPIZ or BENZO MEDS. WHAT CAN I DO ABOUT IT? Can you suggest some tips and books and protocol to cure.. Arun M Started on Vortioxetine. 18/09/2023 - Vortioxetine (10mg). 18/09/23 to 12/11/23 - Vortioxetine(Discontinued) 13/11/2023 to 30/11/2023 - Lexapro(15mg). Then 01/12/2023 to 28/02/2024 - Lexapro(20mg). Started Tapering Lexapro.. 01/03 to 30/04- 15mg . 01/05 to 25/09 - 10mg. 26/09 to 08/10 - 7.5mg. 09/10 to 03/11 - 5mg. 04/11 to 21/11 - 3.75mg. 22/11 to 7/12 - 2.5mg. 08/12 to 24/12 - 1.875mg. 25/12 to till now - 1.25mg.
LostInCanada Posted October 16, 2024 Posted October 16, 2024 31 minutes ago, ArunLex said: now in 5mg lexapro dose.. I am currently struggling in DpDr like Symptoms.. Did you have this symptom when you were talking 7.5 mg? You have been tapering way too fast. Your body is destabilized from this. Do not continue to taper until your body resolved this issue. In fact I would suggest going back to 7.5 mg till it does. Also you cannot just use a pill cutter and eyeball the dose. You need to be weighing the pills and taking exactly the same weight every day using a sharp knife or one sided razor to shave the pill. Many buy a Gem 20 jewelry scale on Amazon for this purpose. The pills have filler in them so you need to take that into consideration when weighing and dividing the pill. Something like this: https://www.amazon.in/Precision-Digital-Milligram-Weighing-Precious/dp/B09HZYFNTH/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=1YTT6FX8T0114&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.33P5amh4MeBkelj3BRBHOQSsp65Kfouo53StUSymhAl3LO3jOyq90EfQkZYCehfgFYGm1JQ7W38KSSzC9DhOGGp9PXrUMfUsRtoypreQWvD9TLFy_VQCUmplpBTuL4LVIsMAOG4bzYmSMM3HCQs3KTzvhkja98YxvSVoEVvchQHPB7mjrsW6-Rz7ngfyXFds93d6vGWTeMsKaryTKrtU5Q.Q34mMTQcuSX95laFDjbsmwK1ictzMayk-AFwZM7r4-c&dib_tag=se&keywords=gem+20+jewelry+scale&qid=1729092597&sprefix=gem+20+jewelry+scale+%2Caps%2C259&sr=8-3 What symptoms did you have coming off the Benzo? Any issues coming off propranolol ? 2 I am not a medical professional. My comments are based on my personal experience and information on this site. 2016-twice weekly for a couple months-oxazepam 10 mg sleep/ 2020-22-once a week 3.75-7.5 mg Zopiclone for sleep/20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8mg/23.07.28-4.73mg/23.08.04-4.65mg /21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47mg/6.2.24-4.46mg/ 19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4 mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg/19.5.24-4.36 mg/2.7.24-4.34 mg/9.7.24-4.32mg/31.7.24-4.3 mg/ 1.10.24 -4.29mg/27.11.24-4.25 mg/5.12.24-4.22mg/5.1.25-4.17mg/ 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/0.25 mcg melatonin nightly "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15
ArunLex Posted October 18, 2024 Author Posted October 18, 2024 On 10/16/2024 at 9:06 PM, LostInCanada said: Did you have this symptom when you were talking 7.5 mg? You have been tapering way too fast. Your body is destabilized from this. Do not continue to taper until your body resolved this issue. In fact I would suggest going back to 7.5 mg till it does. Also you cannot just use a pill cutter and eyeball the dose. You need to be weighing the pills and taking exactly the same weight every day using a sharp knife or one sided razor to shave the pill. Many buy a Gem 20 jewelry scale on Amazon for this purpose. The pills have filler in them so you need to take that into consideration when weighing and dividing the pill. Something like this: https://www.amazon.in/Precision-Digital-Milligram-Weighing-Precious/dp/B09HZYFNTH/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=1YTT6FX8T0114&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.33P5amh4MeBkelj3BRBHOQSsp65Kfouo53StUSymhAl3LO3jOyq90EfQkZYCehfgFYGm1JQ7W38KSSzC9DhOGGp9PXrUMfUsRtoypreQWvD9TLFy_VQCUmplpBTuL4LVIsMAOG4bzYmSMM3HCQs3KTzvhkja98YxvSVoEVvchQHPB7mjrsW6-Rz7ngfyXFds93d6vGWTeMsKaryTKrtU5Q.Q34mMTQcuSX95laFDjbsmwK1ictzMayk-AFwZM7r4-c&dib_tag=se&keywords=gem+20+jewelry+scale&qid=1729092597&sprefix=gem+20+jewelry+scale+%2Caps%2C259&sr=8-3 What symptoms did you have coming off the Benzo? Any issues coming off propranolol ? I think have this symptom from May onwards. At that time I have completely lost my mind. My mind is completely blank I don't know why I am feeling this way. I became completely changed and started thinking the world around is fake and my surroundings are not real. When i am enter into my home it feels different that time.((My way of thinking is completely changed at that time)). At that Time I don't know what is dpdr..when I search in YouTube I found it was dpdr, So I reinstated my drug to 15mg at May 8 to May 18 (10 days) Still I feel the same ... So I started thinking It doesn't due to Lexapro it may be due to benzo, So I tapered down to 10mg Lexapro at May 20 at I take 10MG Lexapro for next 3 months, When I tapered 10mg to 7.5 I didn't get any single symptoms and nothing change in dpdr, and also when I tapered 10mg to 7.5mg Still I didn't get any withdrawal symptoms.. When tapered down from 7.5 to 5 also I didn't get any withdrawal problems... While I changed my drug from vortioxetine to lexapro, I have taken 0.5mg zapiz for 40 days in between 18/09/23 to 28/02/24.I tapered it down to 0.25 and stop abruptly at end of february and start taken proponolol. My doctor prescribed proponolol 3- 10mg tablets per day. I reduced to 2 tablet to 1 tablet per day and then I stop it. Proponolol helps me lot to ease with benzo withdrawal problems but after I stop proponolol I get more nervous and tense,hand shivering,Sleep problems, My anxiety is increased then I start taken magnesium bisglycinate for 20 days then it goes to normal after some days. So is there any other solution to this problem? Arun M Started on Vortioxetine. 18/09/2023 - Vortioxetine (10mg). 18/09/23 to 12/11/23 - Vortioxetine(Discontinued) 13/11/2023 to 30/11/2023 - Lexapro(15mg). Then 01/12/2023 to 28/02/2024 - Lexapro(20mg). Started Tapering Lexapro.. 01/03 to 30/04- 15mg . 01/05 to 25/09 - 10mg. 26/09 to 08/10 - 7.5mg. 09/10 to 03/11 - 5mg. 04/11 to 21/11 - 3.75mg. 22/11 to 7/12 - 2.5mg. 08/12 to 24/12 - 1.875mg. 25/12 to till now - 1.25mg.
ArunLex Posted October 18, 2024 Author Posted October 18, 2024 5 hours ago, ArunLex said: I think have this symptom from May onwards. At that time I have completely lost my mind. My mind is completely blank I don't know why I am feeling this way. I became completely changed and started thinking the world around is fake and my surroundings are not real. When i am enter into my home it feels different that time.((My way of thinking is completely changed at that time)). At that Time I don't know what is dpdr..when I search in YouTube I found it was dpdr, So I reinstated my drug to 15mg at May 8 to May 18 (10 days) Still I feel the same ... So I started thinking It doesn't due to Lexapro it may be due to benzo, So I tapered down to 10mg Lexapro at May 20 at I take 10MG Lexapro for next 3 months, When I tapered 10mg to 7.5 I didn't get any single symptoms and nothing change in dpdr, and also when I tapered 10mg to 7.5mg Still I didn't get any withdrawal symptoms.. When tapered down from 7.5 to 5 also I didn't get any withdrawal problems... While I changed my drug from vortioxetine to lexapro, I have taken 0.5mg zapiz for 40 days in between 18/09/23 to 28/02/24.I tapered it down to 0.25 and stop abruptly at end of february and start taken proponolol. My doctor prescribed proponolol 3- 10mg tablets per day. I reduced to 2 tablet to 1 tablet per day and then I stop it. Proponolol helps me lot to ease with benzo withdrawal problems but after I stop proponolol I get more nervous and tense,hand shivering,Sleep problems, My anxiety is increased then I start taken magnesium bisglycinate for 20 days then it goes to normal after some days. So is there any other solution to this problem? Is there anyone online @Emonda @LostInCanada Arun M Started on Vortioxetine. 18/09/2023 - Vortioxetine (10mg). 18/09/23 to 12/11/23 - Vortioxetine(Discontinued) 13/11/2023 to 30/11/2023 - Lexapro(15mg). Then 01/12/2023 to 28/02/2024 - Lexapro(20mg). Started Tapering Lexapro.. 01/03 to 30/04- 15mg . 01/05 to 25/09 - 10mg. 26/09 to 08/10 - 7.5mg. 09/10 to 03/11 - 5mg. 04/11 to 21/11 - 3.75mg. 22/11 to 7/12 - 2.5mg. 08/12 to 24/12 - 1.875mg. 25/12 to till now - 1.25mg.
LostInCanada Posted October 18, 2024 Posted October 18, 2024 8 hours ago, ArunLex said: started thinking It doesn't due to Lexapro it may be due to benzo, We just don't know because you were changing doses for Lexapro as well. It may be withdrawal from the vortioxetine also. Probably a combination of all three. Either way, you are destabilized and need to stop making changes and let your body settle down. There is no way to know how long it will take but you have decreased the lexapro too fast. It is important to either get a scale and be accurate by weighing and shaving your pills or making a liquid yourself. Homemade liquid needs to be refrigerated and most are only stable for 3 days. I am not sure about lexapro. It is your choice to go back to 7.5 mg or wait it out at 5 mg. 2 hours ago, ArunLex said: anyone online I am on the west coast of Canada so different time zone. I am not a medical professional. My comments are based on my personal experience and information on this site. 2016-twice weekly for a couple months-oxazepam 10 mg sleep/ 2020-22-once a week 3.75-7.5 mg Zopiclone for sleep/20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8mg/23.07.28-4.73mg/23.08.04-4.65mg /21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47mg/6.2.24-4.46mg/ 19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4 mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg/19.5.24-4.36 mg/2.7.24-4.34 mg/9.7.24-4.32mg/31.7.24-4.3 mg/ 1.10.24 -4.29mg/27.11.24-4.25 mg/5.12.24-4.22mg/5.1.25-4.17mg/ 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/0.25 mcg melatonin nightly "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15
ArunLex Posted October 18, 2024 Author Posted October 18, 2024 2 minutes ago, LostInCanada said: 4 minutes ago, LostInCanada said: We just don't know because you were changing doses for Lexapro as well. It may be withdrawal from the vortioxetine also. Probably a combination of all three. Either way, you are destabilized and need to stop making changes and let your body settle down. There is no way to know how long it will take but you have decreased the lexapro too fast. It is important to either get a scale and be accurate by weighing and shaving your pills or making a liquid yourself. Homemade liquid needs to be refrigerated and most are only stable for 3 days. I am not sure about lexapro. It is your choice to go back to 7.5 mg or wait it out at 5 mg. I am on the west coast of Canada so different time zone. 5 minutes ago, LostInCanada said: We just don't know because you were changing doses for Lexapro as well. It may be withdrawal from the vortioxetine also. Probably a combination of all three. Either way, you are destabilized and need to stop making changes and let your body settle down. There is no way to know how long it will take but you have decreased the lexapro too fast. It is important to either get a scale and be accurate by weighing and shaving your pills or making a liquid yourself. Homemade liquid needs to be refrigerated and most are only stable for 3 days. I am not sure about lexapro. It is your choice to go back to 7.5 mg or wait it out at 5 mg. I am on the west coast of Canada so different time zone. Can i try this approach , As I try to reduce my lexapro dose from 5mg to 3.75mg to 2.5mg to 1.875mg to 1.25mg to 0.625mg. By using 10% approach. After that When i feel the dpdr symptoms can i use vortioxetine 5mg to manage it... what if It is due to benzo and how to cure it?? Arun M Started on Vortioxetine. 18/09/2023 - Vortioxetine (10mg). 18/09/23 to 12/11/23 - Vortioxetine(Discontinued) 13/11/2023 to 30/11/2023 - Lexapro(15mg). Then 01/12/2023 to 28/02/2024 - Lexapro(20mg). Started Tapering Lexapro.. 01/03 to 30/04- 15mg . 01/05 to 25/09 - 10mg. 26/09 to 08/10 - 7.5mg. 09/10 to 03/11 - 5mg. 04/11 to 21/11 - 3.75mg. 22/11 to 7/12 - 2.5mg. 08/12 to 24/12 - 1.875mg. 25/12 to till now - 1.25mg.
ArunLex Posted October 18, 2024 Author Posted October 18, 2024 2 minutes ago, LostInCanada said: 4 minutes ago, LostInCanada said: We just don't know because you were changing doses for Lexapro as well. It may be withdrawal from the vortioxetine also. Probably a combination of all three. Either way, you are destabilized and need to stop making changes and let your body settle down. There is no way to know how long it will take but you have decreased the lexapro too fast. It is important to either get a scale and be accurate by weighing and shaving your pills or making a liquid yourself. Homemade liquid needs to be refrigerated and most are only stable for 3 days. I am not sure about lexapro. It is your choice to go back to 7.5 mg or wait it out at 5 mg. I am on the west coast of Canada so different time zone. 5 minutes ago, LostInCanada said: We just don't know because you were changing doses for Lexapro as well. It may be withdrawal from the vortioxetine also. Probably a combination of all three. Either way, you are destabilized and need to stop making changes and let your body settle down. There is no way to know how long it will take but you have decreased the lexapro too fast. It is important to either get a scale and be accurate by weighing and shaving your pills or making a liquid yourself. Homemade liquid needs to be refrigerated and most are only stable for 3 days. I am not sure about lexapro. It is your choice to go back to 7.5 mg or wait it out at 5 mg. I am on the west coast of Canada so different time zone. Can i try this approach , As I try to reduce my lexapro dose from 5mg to 3.75mg to 2.5mg to 1.875mg to 1.25mg to 0.625mg. By using 10% approach. After that When i feel the dpdr symptoms can i use vortioxetine 5mg to manage it... what if It is due to benzo and how to cure it?? Arun M Started on Vortioxetine. 18/09/2023 - Vortioxetine (10mg). 18/09/23 to 12/11/23 - Vortioxetine(Discontinued) 13/11/2023 to 30/11/2023 - Lexapro(15mg). Then 01/12/2023 to 28/02/2024 - Lexapro(20mg). Started Tapering Lexapro.. 01/03 to 30/04- 15mg . 01/05 to 25/09 - 10mg. 26/09 to 08/10 - 7.5mg. 09/10 to 03/11 - 5mg. 04/11 to 21/11 - 3.75mg. 22/11 to 7/12 - 2.5mg. 08/12 to 24/12 - 1.875mg. 25/12 to till now - 1.25mg.
ArunLex Posted October 18, 2024 Author Posted October 18, 2024 Can i try this approach , As I try to reduce my lexapro dose from 5mg to 3.75mg to 2.5mg to 1.875mg to 1.25mg to 0.625mg. By using 10% approach. After that When i feel the dpdr symptoms can i use vortioxetine 5mg to manage it... what if It is due to benzo and how to cure it?? Arun M Started on Vortioxetine. 18/09/2023 - Vortioxetine (10mg). 18/09/23 to 12/11/23 - Vortioxetine(Discontinued) 13/11/2023 to 30/11/2023 - Lexapro(15mg). Then 01/12/2023 to 28/02/2024 - Lexapro(20mg). Started Tapering Lexapro.. 01/03 to 30/04- 15mg . 01/05 to 25/09 - 10mg. 26/09 to 08/10 - 7.5mg. 09/10 to 03/11 - 5mg. 04/11 to 21/11 - 3.75mg. 22/11 to 7/12 - 2.5mg. 08/12 to 24/12 - 1.875mg. 25/12 to till now - 1.25mg.
LostInCanada Posted October 18, 2024 Posted October 18, 2024 12 minutes ago, ArunLex said: 5mg to 3.75mg to 2.5mg to 1.875mg to 1.25mg to 0.625mg. By using 10% approach This is not a 10% reduction. It is 10% of the current dose. For example from 5 mg it would be 5 mg minus .5 mg so 4.5 mg, then 4.5mg- .45mg so 4.05 mg. Accuracy is important... will you get a scale or make your own liquid? 12 minutes ago, ArunLex said: When i feel the dpdr symptoms can i use vortioxetine 5mg to manage it... Why would vortioxetine help? You have stopped this drug and risk kindling if you go back on it. 12 minutes ago, ArunLex said: what if It is due to benzo and how to cure it?? You might get answers on BenzoBuddies. There is no cure other than time and patience. The body needs to heal. @LotusRising may be able to answer the questions about benzos. (Zapiz) I am not a medical professional. My comments are based on my personal experience and information on this site. 2016-twice weekly for a couple months-oxazepam 10 mg sleep/ 2020-22-once a week 3.75-7.5 mg Zopiclone for sleep/20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8mg/23.07.28-4.73mg/23.08.04-4.65mg /21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47mg/6.2.24-4.46mg/ 19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4 mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg/19.5.24-4.36 mg/2.7.24-4.34 mg/9.7.24-4.32mg/31.7.24-4.3 mg/ 1.10.24 -4.29mg/27.11.24-4.25 mg/5.12.24-4.22mg/5.1.25-4.17mg/ 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/0.25 mcg melatonin nightly "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15
ArunLex Posted October 19, 2024 Author Posted October 19, 2024 10 hours ago, LostInCanada said: This is not a 10% reduction. It is 10% of the current dose. For example from 5 mg it would be 5 mg minus .5 mg so 4.5 mg, then 4.5mg- .45mg so 4.05 mg. Accuracy is important... will you get a scale or make your own liquid? Why would vortioxetine help? You have stopped this drug and risk kindling if you go back on it. You might get answers on BenzoBuddies. There is no cure other than time and patience. The body needs to heal. @LotusRising may be able to answer the questions about benzos. (Zapiz) I am planning to get a gold weighing machine. Okay dude thanks 👍 1 Arun M Started on Vortioxetine. 18/09/2023 - Vortioxetine (10mg). 18/09/23 to 12/11/23 - Vortioxetine(Discontinued) 13/11/2023 to 30/11/2023 - Lexapro(15mg). Then 01/12/2023 to 28/02/2024 - Lexapro(20mg). Started Tapering Lexapro.. 01/03 to 30/04- 15mg . 01/05 to 25/09 - 10mg. 26/09 to 08/10 - 7.5mg. 09/10 to 03/11 - 5mg. 04/11 to 21/11 - 3.75mg. 22/11 to 7/12 - 2.5mg. 08/12 to 24/12 - 1.875mg. 25/12 to till now - 1.25mg.
Moderator LotusRising Posted October 20, 2024 Moderator Posted October 20, 2024 @ArunLex You've received some good info from @LostInCanada. I see no reason to add in vortioxetine. Adding it back in will not necessarily help any of your symptoms. There would be no way to know for sure if your symptoms are from reducing lexapro or zapiz; it looks like you were reducing both simultaneously? I would hang tight and wait for symptoms to settle, or as already mentioned, you could go back up to 7.5mg lexapro and hold. I would make a decision about lexapro sooner rather than later though, because your body will already be adapting to the lower dose. 1 2003-2009 on and off various SSRI's for short periods 2010-2011 Ativan 2013-2021 ativan 1-1.5mg 10-12x/month 2016 - Effexor 75mg, short-term 2021 Mar -Jun Buspar ADR at high dose, tapered 3 months Oct 22/21 - Direct switch ativan to clonazepam (don't do this) Tapered clonaz Oct/21 - Apr/23 - 0mg! "Believe that your tragedies, your losses, your sorrows, your hurt, happened for you, not to you. And I bless the thing that broke you down and cracked you open, because the world needs you open" - Rebecca Campbell *** Disclaimer: Please note, suggestions/comments are based on personal experiences. This is not medical advice. Please consult a knowledgeable practitioner to discuss decisions regarding your medical care *** *** Please do not send me PM's ***
ArunLex Posted October 20, 2024 Author Posted October 20, 2024 @LotusRising I'm not suffering from dpdr so intensely. It is just a thought. When i accept the thought and do some activity it usually fades away.. Someday in a month or week it creates a huge suffering or comes like a huge setback.. When I'm in 10mg of lexapro for 3-4 months it creates more fear and distress like how to taper lexapro with kind of thing or What if this derealization thing never fades away like that. After i taper my drug from 10mg to 7.5mg and i get confidence to reduce my drug after 2 weeks to 5mg . I feel more better than 10mg. I feel like some burden is gone. So I simply accept this dpdr is due to benzo or I accept this thought it is normal from tapering down.. So i simply taper my 7.5mg lexapro to 5mg lexapro drug from 26/09/2024 to 08/10/2024 only 2 weeks. And I Feel the same no withdrawal symptom and nothing from 5mg lexapro. What if I reduce my drug from 5mg to 2.5mg of lexapro?? And i see how it feels like and also i will get some clear idea about is this due to lexapro or zapiz? Bro I currently finished my collage at March and searching for a job. I never feel the dpdr symptom in collage. SO the dpdr symptom is maybe due to Finishing collage or lexapro or Zapiz or LOW MOTIVATION to get a JOB.. I thought Vortioxetine may help with brain fog state. It gives some motivation. Although when i taper vortioxetine abruptly at 12th nov, it doesn't create that much problem. Simple headache and lethargy that kind of thing only.. Arun M Started on Vortioxetine. 18/09/2023 - Vortioxetine (10mg). 18/09/23 to 12/11/23 - Vortioxetine(Discontinued) 13/11/2023 to 30/11/2023 - Lexapro(15mg). Then 01/12/2023 to 28/02/2024 - Lexapro(20mg). Started Tapering Lexapro.. 01/03 to 30/04- 15mg . 01/05 to 25/09 - 10mg. 26/09 to 08/10 - 7.5mg. 09/10 to 03/11 - 5mg. 04/11 to 21/11 - 3.75mg. 22/11 to 7/12 - 2.5mg. 08/12 to 24/12 - 1.875mg. 25/12 to till now - 1.25mg.
Administrator Emonda Posted October 21, 2024 Administrator Posted October 21, 2024 On 10/20/2024 at 7:46 PM, ArunLex said: What if I reduce my drug from 5mg to 2.5mg of lexapro?? Stick to the maximum 10% as mentioned above. WD can sneak up on you, which can take a long time to recover from. On 10/20/2024 at 7:46 PM, ArunLex said: thought Vortioxetine may help with brain fog state. More drugs are not the solution. On 10/20/2024 at 7:46 PM, ArunLex said: Although when i taper vortioxetine abruptly at 12th nov, it doesn't create that much problem. As above, WD can sneak up on you, leaving you in a world of pain and regret, and you most certainly don't want that. Please don't send me PMs. I am not a doctor. My comments are based on my personal experience with ADs and tapering. Consult your doctor about your own medical decisions. Start of taper: Jan ’22 Vortioxetine 15mg End year 1: 4.5mg End year 2: 2.38mg End year 3: 1.16mg Year 4: The brassmonkey slide continues...
ArunLex Posted October 21, 2024 Author Posted October 21, 2024 Ohh okay thanks emonda. Still now i didn't have any depression or anxiety or any issues(I somehow manage problems like job). So i thought to reduce to 2.5mg and see what happens to my body.. If 2.5mg taper is successful then i thought to reduce to 1.25mg to 0.625mg to 0.3mg to stop or else if i got stuck in 2.5mg then i reinstate it to 5mg or 10mg to slowly taper. But Now i am currently decided to slowly taper like this From 5mg (Stable) to 3.75mg to 2.5mg to 1.875mg to 1.25mg to 0.625mg to 0.3mg..(It is based on less than 10% reduction in receptor occupancy) ( I plan to get a weighing machine).. Arun M Started on Vortioxetine. 18/09/2023 - Vortioxetine (10mg). 18/09/23 to 12/11/23 - Vortioxetine(Discontinued) 13/11/2023 to 30/11/2023 - Lexapro(15mg). Then 01/12/2023 to 28/02/2024 - Lexapro(20mg). Started Tapering Lexapro.. 01/03 to 30/04- 15mg . 01/05 to 25/09 - 10mg. 26/09 to 08/10 - 7.5mg. 09/10 to 03/11 - 5mg. 04/11 to 21/11 - 3.75mg. 22/11 to 7/12 - 2.5mg. 08/12 to 24/12 - 1.875mg. 25/12 to till now - 1.25mg.
ArunLex Posted October 22, 2024 Author Posted October 22, 2024 @Emonda From 5mg (Stable) to 3.75mg to 2.5mg to 1.875mg to 1.25mg to 0.625mg to 0.3mg... Can i try this process?? Arun M Started on Vortioxetine. 18/09/2023 - Vortioxetine (10mg). 18/09/23 to 12/11/23 - Vortioxetine(Discontinued) 13/11/2023 to 30/11/2023 - Lexapro(15mg). Then 01/12/2023 to 28/02/2024 - Lexapro(20mg). Started Tapering Lexapro.. 01/03 to 30/04- 15mg . 01/05 to 25/09 - 10mg. 26/09 to 08/10 - 7.5mg. 09/10 to 03/11 - 5mg. 04/11 to 21/11 - 3.75mg. 22/11 to 7/12 - 2.5mg. 08/12 to 24/12 - 1.875mg. 25/12 to till now - 1.25mg.
Administrator Emonda Posted October 22, 2024 Administrator Posted October 22, 2024 27 minutes ago, ArunLex said: Can i try this process?? You can do as you choose. 31 minutes ago, ArunLex said: From 5mg (Stable) to 3.75mg to 2.5mg to 1.875mg to 1.25mg to 0.625mg to 0.3mg... LostinCanada and I have both responded to this above. Please go back to the start of this topic and re-read the answers. Please don't tag me in any replies. Thank you, Emonda 1 Please don't send me PMs. I am not a doctor. My comments are based on my personal experience with ADs and tapering. Consult your doctor about your own medical decisions. Start of taper: Jan ’22 Vortioxetine 15mg End year 1: 4.5mg End year 2: 2.38mg End year 3: 1.16mg Year 4: The brassmonkey slide continues...
ArunLex Posted October 22, 2024 Author Posted October 22, 2024 okay emonda 😅 Arun M Started on Vortioxetine. 18/09/2023 - Vortioxetine (10mg). 18/09/23 to 12/11/23 - Vortioxetine(Discontinued) 13/11/2023 to 30/11/2023 - Lexapro(15mg). Then 01/12/2023 to 28/02/2024 - Lexapro(20mg). Started Tapering Lexapro.. 01/03 to 30/04- 15mg . 01/05 to 25/09 - 10mg. 26/09 to 08/10 - 7.5mg. 09/10 to 03/11 - 5mg. 04/11 to 21/11 - 3.75mg. 22/11 to 7/12 - 2.5mg. 08/12 to 24/12 - 1.875mg. 25/12 to till now - 1.25mg.
LostInCanada Posted October 22, 2024 Posted October 22, 2024 On 10/18/2024 at 9:15 AM, LostInCanada said: On 10/18/2024 at 9:03 AM, ArunLex said: 5mg to 3.75mg to 2.5mg to 1.875mg to 1.25mg to 0.625mg. By using 10% approach This is not a 10% reduction. It is 10% of the current dose. For example from 5 mg it would be 5 mg minus .5 mg so 4.5 mg, then 4.5mg- .45mg so 4.05 mg. You still want to taper too fast. If you have absolutely no withdrawal symptoms after 2 reductions waiting the full 4 weeks, you can then do reductions every 3 weeks. As the doses get smaller it becomes harder on your body. Like Emonda said, please reread the advice. 1 I am not a medical professional. My comments are based on my personal experience and information on this site. 2016-twice weekly for a couple months-oxazepam 10 mg sleep/ 2020-22-once a week 3.75-7.5 mg Zopiclone for sleep/20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8mg/23.07.28-4.73mg/23.08.04-4.65mg /21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47mg/6.2.24-4.46mg/ 19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4 mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg/19.5.24-4.36 mg/2.7.24-4.34 mg/9.7.24-4.32mg/31.7.24-4.3 mg/ 1.10.24 -4.29mg/27.11.24-4.25 mg/5.12.24-4.22mg/5.1.25-4.17mg/ 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/0.25 mcg melatonin nightly "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15
ArunLex Posted October 26, 2024 Author Posted October 26, 2024 (edited) On 10/22/2024 at 8:56 PM, LostInCanada said: You still want to taper too fast. If you have absolutely no withdrawal symptoms after 2 reductions waiting the full 4 weeks, you can then do reductions every 3 weeks. As the doses get smaller it becomes harder on your body. Like Emonda said, please reread the advice. I currently have no withdrawal symptoms from lexapro. Like I need to taper by reducing 10% of current dose for 4 weeks and reduce that dose by 10% to 4 weeks until it gets to zero?? Can you send the full taper method and time of months it takes to fully stop. I thought I have taken only ssri for less than 6 months, ON 20MG of Lexapro for only 3 months, So If i do fast tapering by 10% of dose will be okay to coming off the drugs?? Edited October 26, 2024 by ArunLex Arun M Started on Vortioxetine. 18/09/2023 - Vortioxetine (10mg). 18/09/23 to 12/11/23 - Vortioxetine(Discontinued) 13/11/2023 to 30/11/2023 - Lexapro(15mg). Then 01/12/2023 to 28/02/2024 - Lexapro(20mg). Started Tapering Lexapro.. 01/03 to 30/04- 15mg . 01/05 to 25/09 - 10mg. 26/09 to 08/10 - 7.5mg. 09/10 to 03/11 - 5mg. 04/11 to 21/11 - 3.75mg. 22/11 to 7/12 - 2.5mg. 08/12 to 24/12 - 1.875mg. 25/12 to till now - 1.25mg.
LostInCanada Posted October 26, 2024 Posted October 26, 2024 On 10/11/2024 at 7:50 AM, ArunLex said: having severe waves and windows of withdrawal symptoms like DPDR and feeling of low motivation. You wrote you were having symptoms. You have been on Lexapro a year not 3 months correct? I am not a medical professional. My comments are based on my personal experience and information on this site. 2016-twice weekly for a couple months-oxazepam 10 mg sleep/ 2020-22-once a week 3.75-7.5 mg Zopiclone for sleep/20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8mg/23.07.28-4.73mg/23.08.04-4.65mg /21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47mg/6.2.24-4.46mg/ 19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4 mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg/19.5.24-4.36 mg/2.7.24-4.34 mg/9.7.24-4.32mg/31.7.24-4.3 mg/ 1.10.24 -4.29mg/27.11.24-4.25 mg/5.12.24-4.22mg/5.1.25-4.17mg/ 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/0.25 mcg melatonin nightly "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15
LostInCanada Posted October 26, 2024 Posted October 26, 2024 8 hours ago, ArunLex said: Like I need to taper by reducing 10% of current dose for 4 weeks and reduce that dose by 10% to 4 weeks until it gets to zero?? Yes. If you have no symptoms, you can reduce every 3 weeks. I am not a medical professional. My comments are based on my personal experience and information on this site. 2016-twice weekly for a couple months-oxazepam 10 mg sleep/ 2020-22-once a week 3.75-7.5 mg Zopiclone for sleep/20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8mg/23.07.28-4.73mg/23.08.04-4.65mg /21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47mg/6.2.24-4.46mg/ 19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4 mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg/19.5.24-4.36 mg/2.7.24-4.34 mg/9.7.24-4.32mg/31.7.24-4.3 mg/ 1.10.24 -4.29mg/27.11.24-4.25 mg/5.12.24-4.22mg/5.1.25-4.17mg/ 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/0.25 mcg melatonin nightly "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15
LostInCanada Posted October 26, 2024 Posted October 26, 2024 This is where to find spreadsheets to figure out doses I am not a medical professional. My comments are based on my personal experience and information on this site. 2016-twice weekly for a couple months-oxazepam 10 mg sleep/ 2020-22-once a week 3.75-7.5 mg Zopiclone for sleep/20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8mg/23.07.28-4.73mg/23.08.04-4.65mg /21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47mg/6.2.24-4.46mg/ 19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4 mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg/19.5.24-4.36 mg/2.7.24-4.34 mg/9.7.24-4.32mg/31.7.24-4.3 mg/ 1.10.24 -4.29mg/27.11.24-4.25 mg/5.12.24-4.22mg/5.1.25-4.17mg/ 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/0.25 mcg melatonin nightly "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15
ArunLex Posted October 27, 2024 Author Posted October 27, 2024 16 hours ago, LostInCanada said: You wrote you were having symptoms. You have been on Lexapro a year not 3 months correct? Dpdr and low motivation is somehow manageable.. De-realization thing may be due to zapiz or lexapro but i accept this thing completely. When I focus on reality or if i change my perception to somehow get a job, the dpdr completely go away.. Low motivation is due to not focusing on any important things in my life. Simply distracting myself with some other activities.. Arun M Started on Vortioxetine. 18/09/2023 - Vortioxetine (10mg). 18/09/23 to 12/11/23 - Vortioxetine(Discontinued) 13/11/2023 to 30/11/2023 - Lexapro(15mg). Then 01/12/2023 to 28/02/2024 - Lexapro(20mg). Started Tapering Lexapro.. 01/03 to 30/04- 15mg . 01/05 to 25/09 - 10mg. 26/09 to 08/10 - 7.5mg. 09/10 to 03/11 - 5mg. 04/11 to 21/11 - 3.75mg. 22/11 to 7/12 - 2.5mg. 08/12 to 24/12 - 1.875mg. 25/12 to till now - 1.25mg.
ArunLex Posted October 27, 2024 Author Posted October 27, 2024 16 hours ago, LostInCanada said: You have been on Lexapro a year not 3 months correct? I am on my HIGH dose 20mg lexapro for December to February and started lowering it.. I have taken Zapiz high dose 0.5mg for 40 days and then i reduce it to 0.25mg and i stop taken it at end of february.. Arun M Started on Vortioxetine. 18/09/2023 - Vortioxetine (10mg). 18/09/23 to 12/11/23 - Vortioxetine(Discontinued) 13/11/2023 to 30/11/2023 - Lexapro(15mg). Then 01/12/2023 to 28/02/2024 - Lexapro(20mg). Started Tapering Lexapro.. 01/03 to 30/04- 15mg . 01/05 to 25/09 - 10mg. 26/09 to 08/10 - 7.5mg. 09/10 to 03/11 - 5mg. 04/11 to 21/11 - 3.75mg. 22/11 to 7/12 - 2.5mg. 08/12 to 24/12 - 1.875mg. 25/12 to till now - 1.25mg.
LostInCanada Posted October 27, 2024 Posted October 27, 2024 The thing is that withdrawal can get alot worse if you go to fast. The decision is always up to you. It is harder to undo it. Going slow is safer. I am not a medical professional. My comments are based on my personal experience and information on this site. 2016-twice weekly for a couple months-oxazepam 10 mg sleep/ 2020-22-once a week 3.75-7.5 mg Zopiclone for sleep/20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8mg/23.07.28-4.73mg/23.08.04-4.65mg /21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47mg/6.2.24-4.46mg/ 19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4 mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg/19.5.24-4.36 mg/2.7.24-4.34 mg/9.7.24-4.32mg/31.7.24-4.3 mg/ 1.10.24 -4.29mg/27.11.24-4.25 mg/5.12.24-4.22mg/5.1.25-4.17mg/ 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/0.25 mcg melatonin nightly "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15
ArunLex Posted October 28, 2024 Author Posted October 28, 2024 16 hours ago, LostInCanada said: The thing is that withdrawal can get a lot worse if you go to fast. I will surely only do 10% reduction in receptor occupancy for every 3-4 weeks if withdrawal symptoms comes and i will reinstate to my previous dosage and do more slowly. Arun M Started on Vortioxetine. 18/09/2023 - Vortioxetine (10mg). 18/09/23 to 12/11/23 - Vortioxetine(Discontinued) 13/11/2023 to 30/11/2023 - Lexapro(15mg). Then 01/12/2023 to 28/02/2024 - Lexapro(20mg). Started Tapering Lexapro.. 01/03 to 30/04- 15mg . 01/05 to 25/09 - 10mg. 26/09 to 08/10 - 7.5mg. 09/10 to 03/11 - 5mg. 04/11 to 21/11 - 3.75mg. 22/11 to 7/12 - 2.5mg. 08/12 to 24/12 - 1.875mg. 25/12 to till now - 1.25mg.
LostInCanada Posted October 28, 2024 Posted October 28, 2024 12 hours ago, ArunLex said: only do 10% reduction in receptor occupancy It needs to be 10% of the current drug dosage. Receptor occupancy is a whole different thing and 10% of that would be devastating. I am not a medical professional. My comments are based on my personal experience and information on this site. 2016-twice weekly for a couple months-oxazepam 10 mg sleep/ 2020-22-once a week 3.75-7.5 mg Zopiclone for sleep/20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8mg/23.07.28-4.73mg/23.08.04-4.65mg /21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47mg/6.2.24-4.46mg/ 19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4 mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg/19.5.24-4.36 mg/2.7.24-4.34 mg/9.7.24-4.32mg/31.7.24-4.3 mg/ 1.10.24 -4.29mg/27.11.24-4.25 mg/5.12.24-4.22mg/5.1.25-4.17mg/ 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/0.25 mcg melatonin nightly "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15
ArunLex Posted October 29, 2024 Author Posted October 29, 2024 11 hours ago, LostInCanada said: It needs to be 10% of the current drug dosage. I read this concept in Maudsley deprescribing guidelines.. You can also try 3% reduction in SERT points that is reduction in 3% of recepter occupancy of drug.. Arun M Started on Vortioxetine. 18/09/2023 - Vortioxetine (10mg). 18/09/23 to 12/11/23 - Vortioxetine(Discontinued) 13/11/2023 to 30/11/2023 - Lexapro(15mg). Then 01/12/2023 to 28/02/2024 - Lexapro(20mg). Started Tapering Lexapro.. 01/03 to 30/04- 15mg . 01/05 to 25/09 - 10mg. 26/09 to 08/10 - 7.5mg. 09/10 to 03/11 - 5mg. 04/11 to 21/11 - 3.75mg. 22/11 to 7/12 - 2.5mg. 08/12 to 24/12 - 1.875mg. 25/12 to till now - 1.25mg.
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