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johnnyg: My tapering journey and potential kindling


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I began my tapering from 50mg of zoloft down to 25mg after being on it for about a year and a half following my doctor's guidance. They then told me I could stop fully and after a few days of withdrawals I went back on. Eventually I got to 12.5mg and again was told I could stop fully but had withdrawals. I cut down to 6.25mg about a month after and then stopped again after a month of that. Withdrawals started around day 2 and included sexual symptoms this time. By day 3 or 4 I was told to reinstate by my doctor and I have been taking 5.725mg of liquid sertraline since. After a few days I thought the sexual symptoms went away (I was normal for a few days), but they came back. My doctor told me to stop again after two weeks of reinstatement and tomorrow would be that day. I still have the same withdrawal and sexual symptoms I had before reinstatement so I'm not sure what I should do. Is this a form of kindling caused by reinstatement when I should have just waited out the original withdrawal symptoms? Would stopping now be even more detrimental? I wonder if reinstatement was a mistake that only caused my nervous system more trauma.

March 2023-April 2023  Escitalopram 10mg

April 2023-June 2023 -  Escitalopram 20mg

June 2023-June 2024 -  Sertraline 50mg

July 25 cold turkey 50mg | July 29 return to 25mg | August 15 cold turkey 25mg | August 18 return to 12.5mg | September 4 cold turkey 12.5mg | September 7 return to 6.25mg |

October 4 cold turkey 6.25mg | October 8 reinstate at 5.725mg | October 23 return to 6.25mg | Doctor is currently recommending I cease medication again

(All cold turkey events were at the instructions of my doctors and their nurses)

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I should note that I am 22 years old right now.

March 2023-April 2023  Escitalopram 10mg

April 2023-June 2023 -  Escitalopram 20mg

June 2023-June 2024 -  Sertraline 50mg

July 25 cold turkey 50mg | July 29 return to 25mg | August 15 cold turkey 25mg | August 18 return to 12.5mg | September 4 cold turkey 12.5mg | September 7 return to 6.25mg |

October 4 cold turkey 6.25mg | October 8 reinstate at 5.725mg | October 23 return to 6.25mg | Doctor is currently recommending I cease medication again

(All cold turkey events were at the instructions of my doctors and their nurses)

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Greetings @johnnyg and welcome to SA!  We are a community of volunteers providing peer support in the tapering of psychiatric medications and their associated withdrawal syndromes. 

 

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I recommend you hold at 5.725mg until you stabilize - this could take several weeks or longer.  

 

That you are experiencing withdrawal symptoms is not surprising. You were wise to reinstate, and here at SA, we would not recommend stopping until you safely taper to a much lower dose.  

 

Once you stabilize, you can then begin to taper off again.  We recommend the hyperbolic taper method, which you can read about here: Why taper by 10% of my dosage? 

 

Given your relatively low dose, you might consider choosing to taper even more slowly, with longer holds or smaller cuts.  Read about this here:  The Brassmonkey Slide Method of Microtapering.  The spreadsheet that you can download from here makes it easy to tailor to your needs.

 

Here is some information specific to tapering off Zoloft:  

 

 

It’s important to keep tabs on your symptoms and adjust your taper amount and schedule as needed.  I track my symptoms every day, rating them on a scale of 1-10 for severity.  This will help you identify your windows and waves and reveal your progress, which is encouragement we need!  You can use the following list of typical withdrawal symptoms as a template for a journal, if you wish: Daily Checklist of Antidepressant Withdrawal Symptoms (PDF) 

 

You may choose to also track your foods and activities to identify things that trigger symptoms as well.  We do encourage people who are tapering to avoid caffeine, alcohol, and recreational drugs.  Many prescription and OTC drugs can cause problems too and should be avoided as much as possible. 

 

We recommend only two supplements here at SA, magnesium and omega-3 fatty acids.  So if you decide to try a supplement, even those we recommend here, start with a very low dose.  If you tolerate it well, you can increase the dosage slowly over time.  

 

As you taper, it is very normal to have periods where you feel better, and periods where you feel terrible.  This is what we call the windows and waves pattern of stabilization.  This is actually a good sign of healing!  Read more about windows and waves here: Windows and waves pattern of stabilization

 

We have many threads on how to cope with symptoms – I encourage you to check out the various forums / links on the SA.org home page.

 

This is your introduction topic.  Each member gets one intro topic- please post updates and additional questions here, in this thread.

 

Do explore the rest of the forum – there is a lot of great information here.  Be sure to read “About SurvivingAntidepressants.org,” which has good information about how to use / search the site: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/forums/topic/54-about-survivingantidepressantsorg  

 

Also, feel free to read and comment on the intro threads of other members.  This is how you build a community of people who understand what you are dealing with.   It is so helpful to connect with others who are experiencing the same things.

 

I look forward to following your journey, and helping out in any way I can.

I am not a doctor. My comments are based on my personal experience with ADs and tapering. Consult your doctor about your own medical decisions.

My Intro Topic:  Jane318: Tapering off Effexor - Struggling at the End.  Heal me, O LORD, and I shall be healed.  Jeremiah 17:14a.

Other meds:  75 mcg/day Levothyroxine for hypothyroidism

Supplements:  Boron, Magnesium Threonate (3 per day of 2000 mg with 145 mg Mg), Vitamin E (every other day), Lugol's iodine (4 drops/day); Cod liver oil (1 tsp); 1 capsule DHA-1000 Fish oil in evening; Adrenal "cocktail" once or twice pd, with Vit C, B-2 (SP Cataplex, 2X daily), and Methyl B-12 (NOWFoods 1,000 mcg, 1X daily).

AD HISTORY:

1985-2010 (est.) - various ADs including Wellbutrin, Elavil, Prozac, Zoloft.  dosages unk.  1991-1992 - stopped AD while to conceive and during pregnancy.  Resumed 1993 (?).

2005 (est.) - tried to stop, severe symptoms.  Resumed meds.  2010 (est) - started Celexa (dose unk).  2016 (est) - started Effexor, working up to 112.5 mg/day.  Stayed at this dose for many years.

2023 - Feb. began linear tapering off Effexor. Switched to hyperbolic tapering in April 2023.  By July 12, 2024 at 1.36 mg / day.

July 13, 2024 - up-dosed to 1.44 mg / day Effexor to address severe withdrawal symptoms.  Felt somewhat better by next day; symptoms continue to improve.  Held until 21 Dec, final dose 1.4 mg/day)

Jan 2025 - 1.36 -> 1.33 -> 1.29 -> 1.25 mg/day Effexor (10% per BrassMonkey slide taper).  Holding 3 weeks.

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@johnnyg - Just checking in to see how you are doing and whether you have any questions?  Best wishes.

I am not a doctor. My comments are based on my personal experience with ADs and tapering. Consult your doctor about your own medical decisions.

My Intro Topic:  Jane318: Tapering off Effexor - Struggling at the End.  Heal me, O LORD, and I shall be healed.  Jeremiah 17:14a.

Other meds:  75 mcg/day Levothyroxine for hypothyroidism

Supplements:  Boron, Magnesium Threonate (3 per day of 2000 mg with 145 mg Mg), Vitamin E (every other day), Lugol's iodine (4 drops/day); Cod liver oil (1 tsp); 1 capsule DHA-1000 Fish oil in evening; Adrenal "cocktail" once or twice pd, with Vit C, B-2 (SP Cataplex, 2X daily), and Methyl B-12 (NOWFoods 1,000 mcg, 1X daily).

AD HISTORY:

1985-2010 (est.) - various ADs including Wellbutrin, Elavil, Prozac, Zoloft.  dosages unk.  1991-1992 - stopped AD while to conceive and during pregnancy.  Resumed 1993 (?).

2005 (est.) - tried to stop, severe symptoms.  Resumed meds.  2010 (est) - started Celexa (dose unk).  2016 (est) - started Effexor, working up to 112.5 mg/day.  Stayed at this dose for many years.

2023 - Feb. began linear tapering off Effexor. Switched to hyperbolic tapering in April 2023.  By July 12, 2024 at 1.36 mg / day.

July 13, 2024 - up-dosed to 1.44 mg / day Effexor to address severe withdrawal symptoms.  Felt somewhat better by next day; symptoms continue to improve.  Held until 21 Dec, final dose 1.4 mg/day)

Jan 2025 - 1.36 -> 1.33 -> 1.29 -> 1.25 mg/day Effexor (10% per BrassMonkey slide taper).  Holding 3 weeks.

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