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Hideous Waves of Depression?? Anybody??

Edited by Emonda
Name to title - (title amended as requested)

 

Paxil initially 1995-1997 For depression 

2001-Reinstated 10mg for AM Anxiety

Gradually built up to 50mg

2017-2022 Several failed attempts to get off through guestimated tapering too fast.

2023-2024 Began slower patient tapering

June 2024-Last tapered dose 6.25mg

  • Emonda changed the title to Chuey: Hideous Waves Depression
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Posted

Hi @Chuey

Thanks for the e-mail and adding something to your signature.

 

We need more info than that. Below is an extract from the instructions:

 

You say you are off Paxil from June 2024, but we need to know the steps you took to come off.

 

Looking forward to your reply.

 

Emonda

 

 

FOR READABILITY, SHORT LINES ARE BEST.

  • A list is easier to understand than one or multiple paragraphs
  • Include ALL drugs, doses, and dates (starting and stopping)
  • Any drugs prior to 24 months ago can just be listed with start and stop years
  • Use actual dates or approximate dates (e.g. mid-June 2018) rather than relative time frames (e.g. 3 months ago)
  • Spell out months (e.g. "January" or "Jan" as 9/1/2016 can be interpreted as 9 Jan 2016 or 1 Sept 2016)
  • Please leave out symptoms and diagnoses

 

Example:

2001–2002 paroxetine 
2003  citalopram 
2004  paroxetine
2008  paroxetine slow taper down to 2016 Aug off paroxetine
2016  citalopram May 20mg  Oct slow taper down
2018  citalopram 13 Feb 4.6mg 15 Mar 4.4mg 29 Apr 4.2mg

Please don't send me PMs. I am not a doctor. My comments are based on my personal experience with ADs and tapering. Consult your doctor about your own medical decisions.

Start of taper: Jan ’22 Vortioxetine 15mg

End year 1: 4.5mg

End year 2: 2.38mg

End year 3: 1.16mg

Year 4: The brassmonkey slide continues...

Posted

I meant to say "Hideous Waves OF Depression"

 

Paxil initially 1995-1997 For depression 

2001-Reinstated 10mg for AM Anxiety

Gradually built up to 50mg

2017-2022 Several failed attempts to get off through guestimated tapering too fast.

2023-2024 Began slower patient tapering

June 2024-Last tapered dose 6.25mg

  • Emonda changed the title to Chuey: Hideous Waves of Depression
  • Administrator
Posted

Thanks for adding some details to your signature.

 

Are you saying you went from 6.25mg to 0mg in one drop? If so, I'd expect you would be experiencing some unpleasant WD symptoms:  Daily Checklist of Antidepressant Withdrawal Symptoms (PDF).

 

You are way past the generally accepted period (3 months) to reinstate the AD.

 

Recovery from stopping ADs CT is not linear. There are good days and not-so-good days/weeks/months. This is referred to as the Windows and waves pattern of stabilization.

The following general links are worth reading:

Emotional Spirals

Non-drug coping strategies

If you have a read of some of the success stories, that may give you a boost.

 

Emonda

Please don't send me PMs. I am not a doctor. My comments are based on my personal experience with ADs and tapering. Consult your doctor about your own medical decisions.

Start of taper: Jan ’22 Vortioxetine 15mg

End year 1: 4.5mg

End year 2: 2.38mg

End year 3: 1.16mg

Year 4: The brassmonkey slide continues...

  • Mentor
Posted

Hideous waves of depression is a common withdrawal symptom. Can you tell us more about what’s going on so we can further assist you?

- Escitalopram 10mg from ages 15 - 21

- Severe crash after 4 month taper to 0

- Reinstated, stabilized, slowly tapering.

 

"Although the world is full of suffering, it is also full of the overcoming of it." - Hellen Keller

I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

Posted

So to clarify, over the past year and a half I had tapered down from 50mg to 6.25mg and was holding there for about 4 months. Unfortunately my insurance stopped covering it, so I went from 6.25 to total discontinuation in June. I began to experience delayed onset of symptoms including waves of extreme depression as well as heart palpitations. (Btw, Magnesium has helped the palpitations significantly)

Thankfully I have experienced better windows along the way.

 

Paxil initially 1995-1997 For depression 

2001-Reinstated 10mg for AM Anxiety

Gradually built up to 50mg

2017-2022 Several failed attempts to get off through guestimated tapering too fast.

2023-2024 Began slower patient tapering

June 2024-Last tapered dose 6.25mg

  • Administrator
Posted
7 hours ago, Chuey said:

Unfortunately my insurance stopped covering it,

 

I'm sorry to hear you were put in this position.

 

7 hours ago, Chuey said:

Magnesium has helped the palpitations significantly

 

Excellent!

 

7 hours ago, Chuey said:

Thankfully I have experienced better windows along the way.

 

This is encouraging.

 

With time and patience, I'd hope you experience further improvement...but it can be a bumpy road at times.

 

Keep us posted.

Please don't send me PMs. I am not a doctor. My comments are based on my personal experience with ADs and tapering. Consult your doctor about your own medical decisions.

Start of taper: Jan ’22 Vortioxetine 15mg

End year 1: 4.5mg

End year 2: 2.38mg

End year 3: 1.16mg

Year 4: The brassmonkey slide continues...

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