Alejogc06 Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 Translated post Hello, I am a young man of Latin American Origin who has spent all this 2024 in a state of internal shock due to psychotropic drugs, with multiple side effects, and without being able to work or study I want to leave polypharmacy to try to make my brain try to readjust or maybe I will return to a normal and functional middle state, I was currently taking wellbutrin 300mg and the doses began to be reduced by starting the XL capsules by prescription of a homeopathic doctor, knowledgeable about the topic I see that it records error, it was passed to welbutrin xl 150 and it began to decrease very quickly and taking it days away. half with the intention of getting it removed quickly, approximately 4 days ago I don't take it, I am experiencing unshakable pain in my back pain joints. I could not stop from my bed, with the medication it happened to me the same, I am currently supplementing myself with multivitamins, omega 3, beta carotene, vitamin C and vitamin E, collagen and magnesium chloride, my question: do I restart the drug again and reduce it slower? I can get worse again by introducing it to my body I am exhausted, dysfunctional, with insomnia, I only sleep in the day very tired, sexually dysfunctional for my partner, without being able to work studying. I appreciate your advice, psychiatrists and doctors do not usually help much and do not understand the secondary symptoms with the medication, they prescribed lamotriginia for a year I tried it for 5 days, it made me very depressive, I felt how my sexual part vibrated me further exacerbated my tinnitus caused by some drug and I was more exhausted .. Original post hola, Soy un joven de Origen Latinoamericano EL cual e pasado todo este 2024 en un estado de conmoción interna debido a los psicofármacos, con múltiples efectos secundarios, y sin poder trabajar ni estudiar quiero dejar la polifarmacia para tratar que mi cerebro trate de reajustarse u talvez vuelva a un estado medio normal y funcional, actualmente estaba tomando wellbutrin 300mg y se empezó a reducir las dosis partiendo las capsulas XL por prescripción de un medico homeópata, conocedor del tema Veo que grabe error, se paso a welbutrin xl 150 y se empezó a disminuir muy rápido y tomándolo días de por medio con la intención de lograr quitarlo rápidamente, aproximadamente hace 4 días no lo tomo, estoy experimentando un dolor inquebrantable en mis articulaciones dolor de espalda. no e podido pararme de mi cama, con la medicación me pasaba igual, actualmente estoy suplementándome con multivitamínicos, omega 3, betacaroteno, vitamina C y vitamina E, colágeno y cloruro de magnesio, mi pregunta ¿reinicio nuevamente el fármaco y lo reduzco mas lento? puedo empeorar nuevamente al introducirlo a mi organismo estoy agotadísimo, disfuncional, con insomnio, solo duermo en el día muy cansado, disfuncional sexualmente para mi pareja, sin poder laborar estudiar. Agradezco sus consejos, los psiquiatras y doctores no suelen ayudar mucho y no entienden los síntomas secundarios con la medicación, me recetaron lamotriginia por un año lo probé por 5 días, me puso depresivo mucho, sentía como mi parte sexual me vibraba adicional exacerbó mi tinitus provocado por algún fármaco Y Me agotaba mas.. Marzo 2024 - Sertralina 50 mg por 4 días, suspensión inmediata, efectos como: desconexión total en las emociones, apatía. Todo mejoró y volvió a la normalidad, a los 20 días amanecí con un TAG que nunca relacioné con la medicación anterior tomada, insomnio, mente en blanco, cambios bruscos de temperatura, inicio de psicosis con voces, etc... Después Sedoxil 1mg hasta abril 2024, suspensión brusca por deterioro cognitivo de corta duración, el psiquiatra nunca me advirtió sobre esto y lo que provocaba la medicación. Luego de tomar Escitalopram genérico por 15 días al aumentar la dosis fui presentando síntomas como demencia, luego: Pristiq 50 mg con quetiapina 25 y 50 mg bloqueo mental, disfunción sexual, me entero de la relación del medicamento con pssd, intento suspender la medicación dividiendo las pastillas de pristiq con ayuda de un psicólogo clínico en menos de dos semanas, un mal procedimiento me dejó con un problema de atención y entré en estado de abstinencia, me recetan levomepromazina en gotas para ayudarme a dormir, más deterioro cognitivo, decidí suspenderlo y buscar otro médico. Luego welbutrin con lorazepam en gotas para dormir, mejoró y corrigió algo que dejó el pristiq, dejó de funcionar al tiempo y fui cada vez más enfermo con síntomas secundarios, actualmente octubre 2024 suspensión de welbutrin lo logre dejar y estuve mal una semana, luego todo empezó a mejorar hasta la ruptura de una relación (8 de noviembre de 2024) cayendo totalmente casi al suicidio, me hospitalizaron y me introdujeron medicamentos a la fuerza. -Clozapina inyectada 5mg 1 dosis -abilify inyectado 5mg 1 dosis -Alpraxolam inyectado Actualmente me reiniciaron a la fuerza el WELBUTRIN 150 mg y agregaron onlazapina 5 mg para "dormir".
Moderator Jane318 Posted October 25, 2024 Moderator Posted October 25, 2024 Google Translation: Quote Title: welbutrin withdrawal? very fast? restart the drug again Hello, I am a young man of Latin American Origin who has spent all this 2024 in a state of internal shock due to psychotropic drugs, with multiple side effects, and without being able to work or study I want to leave polypharmacy to try to make my brain try to readjust or maybe I will return to a normal and functional middle state, I was currently taking wellbutrin 300mg and the doses began to be reduced by starting the XL capsules by prescription of a homeopathic doctor, knowledgeable about the topic I see that it records error, it was passed to welbutrin xl 150 and it began to decrease very quickly and taking it days away. half with the intention of getting it removed quickly, approximately 4 days ago I don't take it, I am experiencing unshakable pain in my back pain joints. I could not stop from my bed, with the medication it happened to me the same, I am currently supplementing myself with multivitamins, omega 3, beta carotene, vitamin C and vitamin E, collagen and magnesium chloride, my question: do I restart the drug again and reduce it slower? I can get worse again by introducing it to my body I am exhausted, dysfunctional, with insomnia, I only sleep in the day very tired, sexually dysfunctional for my partner, without being able to work studying. I appreciate your advice, psychiatrists and doctors do not usually help much and do not understand the secondary symptoms with the medication, they prescribed lamotriginia for a year I tried it for 5 days, it made me very depressive, I felt how my sexual part vibrated me further exacerbated my tinnitus caused by some drug and I was more exhausted .. Greetings @Alejogc06 and welcome to SA! We are a community of volunteers providing peer support in the tapering of psychiatric medications and their associated withdrawal syndromes. Please put the above information in your drug signature for us: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/forums/topic/28240-how-to-summarize-your-drug-history-in-your-signature/. I am sorry for your ordeal. You are in the right place to get support moving forward. As you have concluded, you are experiencing severe withdrawal from a too-fast discontinuation of your antidepressant. Reinstatement of a very small dose of the original drug is the only known way to help alleviate withdrawal syndrome. It isn’t a guarantee of diminished symptoms but it’s the best tactic available. The only alternative is to try and wait out the symptoms and manage as best you can until your central nervous system returns to homeostasis. Unfortunately no one can give you an exact timeline as to when you will start feeling better and while some do recover relatively easily, for others it can take many months or longer. Reinstatement predictably works up to 3 months after last dose. It is best to reinstate as soon as possible after withdrawal symptoms occur. We usually suggest a much smaller reinstatement dose than your last dose. These drugs are strong, and when reinstating it is better to start with a small amount and increase if symptoms remain unbearable. Your system has become sensitized and If you take too much it may be too much for your brain and can cause you become unstable. Sometimes it can be hard to regain stability after this happens. Given your history, the huge jump from 300 to 150, you might want to try reinstating at 150 XL. It takes about 4 days for a dose change to get to get to full state in the blood and a bit longer for it to register in the brain. If you see no improvement after four days, you may want to increase further, but in increment of no more than 10% to avoid kindling. You can read more about reinstating and related topics here: About Reinstating and Stabilizing to Reduce Withdrawal Symptoms - at least the first page. How long does it take to stabilize after reinstating or updosing? Hypersensitivity and kindling Then, once you've stabilized on that dosage, which can take several months, you can begin a 10% per month taper down to zero. Please read: Why taper by 10% of my dosage? In withdrawal and as you taper, it is very normal to have periods where you feel better, and periods where you feel terrible. This is what we call the windows and waves pattern of stabilization. This is actually a good sign of healing! Read more about windows and waves here: Windows and waves pattern of stabilization We have many threads on how to cope with symptoms – I encourage you to check out the various forums / links on the SA.org home page. We encourage people to keep a symptom journal. Track each of your symptoms every day, rating them on a scale of 1-10 for severity. This can help you identify your windows and waves, and will allow you to see how far you've come, which is helpful on the rough days. If you choose to also track your foods and activities, this may allow you to identify things that trigger symptoms as well! Using this method, I have identified sensitivities to coffee (even decaf), chamomile, refined sugar, intense exercise, and magnesium. You can use the following list of typical withdrawal symptoms as a template for a journal, if you wish: Daily Checklist of Antidepressant Withdrawal Symptoms (PDF) This is your introduction topic. Each member gets one intro topic- please post updates and questions here, in this thread. Do explore the rest of the forum – there is a lot of great information here. Be sure to read “About SurvivingAntidepressants.org,” which has good information about how to use / search the site: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/forums/topic/54-about-survivingantidepressantsorg Also, feel free to read and comment on the intro threads of other members. This is how you build a community of people who understand what you are dealing with. It is so helpful to connect with others who are experiencing the same things. I applaud your courage and commitment to getting off these drugs. We are here to help as we can. It takes time and patience, but please know that you will heal. Best wishes. 1 I am not a doctor. My comments are based on my personal experience with ADs and tapering. Consult your doctor about your own medical decisions. My Intro Topic: Jane318: Tapering off Effexor - Struggling at the End. Heal me, O LORD, and I shall be healed. Jeremiah 17:14a. Other meds: 75 mcg/day Levothyroxine for hypothyroidism Supplements: Boron, Magnesium Threonate (3 per day of 2000 mg with 145 mg Mg), Vitamin E (every other day), Lugol's iodine (4 drops/day); Cod liver oil (1 tsp); 1 capsule DHA-1000 Fish oil in evening; Adrenal "cocktail" once or twice pd, with Vit C, B-2 (SP Cataplex, 2X daily), and Methyl B-12 (NOWFoods 1,000 mcg, 1X daily). AD HISTORY: 1985-2010 (est.) - various ADs including Wellbutrin, Elavil, Prozac, Zoloft. dosages unk. 1991-1992 - stopped AD while to conceive and during pregnancy. Resumed 1993 (?). 2005 (est.) - tried to stop, severe symptoms. Resumed meds. 2010 (est) - started Celexa (dose unk). 2016 (est) - started Effexor, working up to 112.5 mg/day. Stayed at this dose for many years. 2023 - Feb. began linear tapering off Effexor. Switched to hyperbolic tapering in April 2023. By July 12, 2024 at 1.36 mg / day. July 13, 2024 - up-dosed to 1.44 mg / day Effexor to address severe withdrawal symptoms. Felt somewhat better by next day; symptoms continue to improve. Held until 21 Dec, final dose 1.4 mg/day) Jan 2025 - 1.36 -> 1.33 -> 1.29 -> 1.25 mg/day Effexor (10% per BrassMonkey slide taper). Holding 3 weeks.
Alejogc06 Posted October 25, 2024 Author Posted October 25, 2024 (edited) hola @jane318 mil gracias, por tus consejos, me encuentro realmente desesperado y el saber como estas drogas nos modifican la química natural de nuestro cuerpo. era anteriormente un excelente estudiante de actividad física muy activo y atlético, a hoy no queda ni el 30'% de lo que era antes, cargo con una disfunción sexual de otro mundo, no e perdido la sensibilidad pero hay problemas... mi tinitus me mata y mas en la noche es horrible, en mi pais solo existe wellbutrin XL no esta el XR, e mirado que el xl no se puede hacer liquido ni partir las pastillas, si reinstalo los 150mg la redución de esta seria en días alternos? quiero recuperar mi sueño y mi sexualidad todo.. el infierno y el cielo si existen----- Google Translate: Hello @ jane318 thousand thanks, for your advice, I am really desperate and knowing how these drugs modify the natural chemistry of our body. He was previously an excellent student of very active and athletic physical activity, today there is not even 30 '% of what he was before, charged with a sexual dysfunction from another world, he did not lose sensitivity but there are problems ... my tinnitus kills me and more at night it is horrible, in my country there is only wellbutrin XL there is not the XR, and since the xl cannot be liquid or split the pills, if I reinstate the 150mg the reduction of this would be on days alternate? I want to recover my dream and my sexuality: (everything .. hell and heaven if they exist ---- Edited October 25, 2024 by Jane318 translate to English Marzo 2024 - Sertralina 50 mg por 4 días, suspensión inmediata, efectos como: desconexión total en las emociones, apatía. Todo mejoró y volvió a la normalidad, a los 20 días amanecí con un TAG que nunca relacioné con la medicación anterior tomada, insomnio, mente en blanco, cambios bruscos de temperatura, inicio de psicosis con voces, etc... Después Sedoxil 1mg hasta abril 2024, suspensión brusca por deterioro cognitivo de corta duración, el psiquiatra nunca me advirtió sobre esto y lo que provocaba la medicación. Luego de tomar Escitalopram genérico por 15 días al aumentar la dosis fui presentando síntomas como demencia, luego: Pristiq 50 mg con quetiapina 25 y 50 mg bloqueo mental, disfunción sexual, me entero de la relación del medicamento con pssd, intento suspender la medicación dividiendo las pastillas de pristiq con ayuda de un psicólogo clínico en menos de dos semanas, un mal procedimiento me dejó con un problema de atención y entré en estado de abstinencia, me recetan levomepromazina en gotas para ayudarme a dormir, más deterioro cognitivo, decidí suspenderlo y buscar otro médico. Luego welbutrin con lorazepam en gotas para dormir, mejoró y corrigió algo que dejó el pristiq, dejó de funcionar al tiempo y fui cada vez más enfermo con síntomas secundarios, actualmente octubre 2024 suspensión de welbutrin lo logre dejar y estuve mal una semana, luego todo empezó a mejorar hasta la ruptura de una relación (8 de noviembre de 2024) cayendo totalmente casi al suicidio, me hospitalizaron y me introdujeron medicamentos a la fuerza. -Clozapina inyectada 5mg 1 dosis -abilify inyectado 5mg 1 dosis -Alpraxolam inyectado Actualmente me reiniciaron a la fuerza el WELBUTRIN 150 mg y agregaron onlazapina 5 mg para "dormir".
Moderator Jane318 Posted October 25, 2024 Moderator Posted October 25, 2024 9 hours ago, Alejogc06 said: there is only wellbutrin XL there is not the XR, and since the xl cannot be liquid or split the pills, if I reinstate the 150mg the reduction of this would be on days alternate? You will find the answers to your questions about tapering off wellbutrin XL here: Tips for tapering off bupropion (Wellbutrin, IR, SR, XR, XL, Zyban). Never skip days! If you have further questions after reading through the above, let us know. Please know that the symptoms you are experiencing, although they are very severe right now, are temporary and you will heal. It will take time, effort, and patience. It is important that you avoid negative thinking - Here are some links to threads that will give you some strategies for dealing with destructive thoughts: Non-drug techniques to cope with emotional symptoms Music for self-care: calms hyperalertness, anxiety, aids relaxation and sleep Ways to cope with daily anxiety "Change the channel" - dealing with cognitive symptoms Dealing With Emotional Spirals I am not a doctor. My comments are based on my personal experience with ADs and tapering. Consult your doctor about your own medical decisions. My Intro Topic: Jane318: Tapering off Effexor - Struggling at the End. Heal me, O LORD, and I shall be healed. Jeremiah 17:14a. Other meds: 75 mcg/day Levothyroxine for hypothyroidism Supplements: Boron, Magnesium Threonate (3 per day of 2000 mg with 145 mg Mg), Vitamin E (every other day), Lugol's iodine (4 drops/day); Cod liver oil (1 tsp); 1 capsule DHA-1000 Fish oil in evening; Adrenal "cocktail" once or twice pd, with Vit C, B-2 (SP Cataplex, 2X daily), and Methyl B-12 (NOWFoods 1,000 mcg, 1X daily). AD HISTORY: 1985-2010 (est.) - various ADs including Wellbutrin, Elavil, Prozac, Zoloft. dosages unk. 1991-1992 - stopped AD while to conceive and during pregnancy. Resumed 1993 (?). 2005 (est.) - tried to stop, severe symptoms. Resumed meds. 2010 (est) - started Celexa (dose unk). 2016 (est) - started Effexor, working up to 112.5 mg/day. Stayed at this dose for many years. 2023 - Feb. began linear tapering off Effexor. Switched to hyperbolic tapering in April 2023. By July 12, 2024 at 1.36 mg / day. July 13, 2024 - up-dosed to 1.44 mg / day Effexor to address severe withdrawal symptoms. Felt somewhat better by next day; symptoms continue to improve. Held until 21 Dec, final dose 1.4 mg/day) Jan 2025 - 1.36 -> 1.33 -> 1.29 -> 1.25 mg/day Effexor (10% per BrassMonkey slide taper). Holding 3 weeks.
Alejogc06 Posted October 28, 2024 Author Posted October 28, 2024 (edited) hola claro que si tengo una, tome pristiq aproximadamente 15dias el cual este me dejo con disfunción sexual y anorgasmia por ende lo suspendí partiendo las pastillas de 50 mg de liberación prolongada a la mitad en un promedio de 2 semanas esto me lo dijo un psicólogo por que le indique lo que el medicamento me estaba asiendo. fue muy rápido ya a pasado mucho tiempo por hay 4 meses. que opinas para reanudar el medicamento haber si se corrige la función sexual el cual creo que no seria asi. estoy desesperado por eso y con tan solo 23 años Google Translate: Hello, of course, if I have one, take pristiq approximately 15 days, which left me with sexual dysfunction and anorgasmia, so I suspended it by starting the 50 mg prolonged-release pills in half in an average of 2 weeks, this was told by a psychologist because to tell you what the medicine was holding me. It was very fast and it has been a long time for there are 4 months. that you think to resume the medicine if the sexual function is corrected which I think would not be like that. I'm desperate for that and at just 23 years old Google Translate of Signature: March 2024- sertraline 50 mg for 4 days, suspension immediately effects such as: total disconnection in emotions, apathy. Everything improved and returned to normal, 20 days later a TAG is awakened that never relates to the previous medication taken, Insomnia, blank mind, sudden changes in the beginning temperature of voice psychosis, etc ... After Sedoxil 1mg April 2024 suspension suddenly due to short-term cognitive decline, the psychiatrist never warned me of this and what caused the medication. After Generic Escitalopram for 15 days in the dose increase I was experiencing symptoms such as dementia, then: Pristiq 50 mg with quetiapine 25 and 50 mg mental block, sexual dysfunction, I find out about the drug relationship with pssd is about stopping the medication starting the pristiq pills with the help of a clinical psychologist in less than two weeks, A bad procedure left me with a problem in attention and I went into a state of absence, levomepromazine is sent in sleeping drops, more cognitive deterioration, I decide to suspend it and look for another doctor. then welbutrin with lorazepam in sleeping drops, improved and corrected something, stopped working, more secondary symptoms, currently October 2024 welbutrin suspension, Edited October 30, 2024 by Jane318 Marzo 2024 - Sertralina 50 mg por 4 días, suspensión inmediata, efectos como: desconexión total en las emociones, apatía. Todo mejoró y volvió a la normalidad, a los 20 días amanecí con un TAG que nunca relacioné con la medicación anterior tomada, insomnio, mente en blanco, cambios bruscos de temperatura, inicio de psicosis con voces, etc... Después Sedoxil 1mg hasta abril 2024, suspensión brusca por deterioro cognitivo de corta duración, el psiquiatra nunca me advirtió sobre esto y lo que provocaba la medicación. Luego de tomar Escitalopram genérico por 15 días al aumentar la dosis fui presentando síntomas como demencia, luego: Pristiq 50 mg con quetiapina 25 y 50 mg bloqueo mental, disfunción sexual, me entero de la relación del medicamento con pssd, intento suspender la medicación dividiendo las pastillas de pristiq con ayuda de un psicólogo clínico en menos de dos semanas, un mal procedimiento me dejó con un problema de atención y entré en estado de abstinencia, me recetan levomepromazina en gotas para ayudarme a dormir, más deterioro cognitivo, decidí suspenderlo y buscar otro médico. Luego welbutrin con lorazepam en gotas para dormir, mejoró y corrigió algo que dejó el pristiq, dejó de funcionar al tiempo y fui cada vez más enfermo con síntomas secundarios, actualmente octubre 2024 suspensión de welbutrin lo logre dejar y estuve mal una semana, luego todo empezó a mejorar hasta la ruptura de una relación (8 de noviembre de 2024) cayendo totalmente casi al suicidio, me hospitalizaron y me introdujeron medicamentos a la fuerza. -Clozapina inyectada 5mg 1 dosis -abilify inyectado 5mg 1 dosis -Alpraxolam inyectado Actualmente me reiniciaron a la fuerza el WELBUTRIN 150 mg y agregaron onlazapina 5 mg para "dormir".
Moderator Jane318 Posted October 30, 2024 Moderator Posted October 30, 2024 @Alejogc06 - I am having a hard time understanding your drug history. Can you please update your signature to more clearly show dates and dosages of the drugs you have taken at least since March 2024 and what is the dose of Wellbutrin that you are taking now and when did you start at this dose? Please keep your signature limited to the just facts - dates, drugs, and dosages - do not discuss symptoms/history here. This makes it too hard for moderators to understand your drug history accurately and quickly. You might look at my signature for one example. I understand that you are scared and frustrated right now. Please know that as difficult as this is, these are TEMPORARY symptoms that are most likely due to adverse reactions to the drug(s), many changes in drugs and dosages, and perhaps stopping some too quickly. But fear, negative thoughts, catastrophic thinking only work against you. Keep hope alive! You will heal. It takes Time + Patience. Again, I refer you to the links above about strategies for dealing with destructive thoughts. I am not a doctor. My comments are based on my personal experience with ADs and tapering. Consult your doctor about your own medical decisions. My Intro Topic: Jane318: Tapering off Effexor - Struggling at the End. Heal me, O LORD, and I shall be healed. Jeremiah 17:14a. Other meds: 75 mcg/day Levothyroxine for hypothyroidism Supplements: Boron, Magnesium Threonate (3 per day of 2000 mg with 145 mg Mg), Vitamin E (every other day), Lugol's iodine (4 drops/day); Cod liver oil (1 tsp); 1 capsule DHA-1000 Fish oil in evening; Adrenal "cocktail" once or twice pd, with Vit C, B-2 (SP Cataplex, 2X daily), and Methyl B-12 (NOWFoods 1,000 mcg, 1X daily). AD HISTORY: 1985-2010 (est.) - various ADs including Wellbutrin, Elavil, Prozac, Zoloft. dosages unk. 1991-1992 - stopped AD while to conceive and during pregnancy. Resumed 1993 (?). 2005 (est.) - tried to stop, severe symptoms. Resumed meds. 2010 (est) - started Celexa (dose unk). 2016 (est) - started Effexor, working up to 112.5 mg/day. Stayed at this dose for many years. 2023 - Feb. began linear tapering off Effexor. Switched to hyperbolic tapering in April 2023. By July 12, 2024 at 1.36 mg / day. July 13, 2024 - up-dosed to 1.44 mg / day Effexor to address severe withdrawal symptoms. Felt somewhat better by next day; symptoms continue to improve. Held until 21 Dec, final dose 1.4 mg/day) Jan 2025 - 1.36 -> 1.33 -> 1.29 -> 1.25 mg/day Effexor (10% per BrassMonkey slide taper). Holding 3 weeks.
Moderator Jane318 Posted November 8, 2024 Moderator Posted November 8, 2024 @Alejogc06 - Think of you, how are you doing? I am not a doctor. My comments are based on my personal experience with ADs and tapering. Consult your doctor about your own medical decisions. My Intro Topic: Jane318: Tapering off Effexor - Struggling at the End. Heal me, O LORD, and I shall be healed. Jeremiah 17:14a. Other meds: 75 mcg/day Levothyroxine for hypothyroidism Supplements: Boron, Magnesium Threonate (3 per day of 2000 mg with 145 mg Mg), Vitamin E (every other day), Lugol's iodine (4 drops/day); Cod liver oil (1 tsp); 1 capsule DHA-1000 Fish oil in evening; Adrenal "cocktail" once or twice pd, with Vit C, B-2 (SP Cataplex, 2X daily), and Methyl B-12 (NOWFoods 1,000 mcg, 1X daily). AD HISTORY: 1985-2010 (est.) - various ADs including Wellbutrin, Elavil, Prozac, Zoloft. dosages unk. 1991-1992 - stopped AD while to conceive and during pregnancy. Resumed 1993 (?). 2005 (est.) - tried to stop, severe symptoms. Resumed meds. 2010 (est) - started Celexa (dose unk). 2016 (est) - started Effexor, working up to 112.5 mg/day. Stayed at this dose for many years. 2023 - Feb. began linear tapering off Effexor. Switched to hyperbolic tapering in April 2023. By July 12, 2024 at 1.36 mg / day. July 13, 2024 - up-dosed to 1.44 mg / day Effexor to address severe withdrawal symptoms. Felt somewhat better by next day; symptoms continue to improve. Held until 21 Dec, final dose 1.4 mg/day) Jan 2025 - 1.36 -> 1.33 -> 1.29 -> 1.25 mg/day Effexor (10% per BrassMonkey slide taper). Holding 3 weeks.
Alejogc06 Posted November 16, 2024 Author Posted November 16, 2024 Hola, realmente algo mal, suspendí Wellbutrin y me estaba recuperando con vitaminas y hierbas naturales, lamentablemente caí muy muy profundo con intención de suicidarme por la ruptura de mi relación de pareja de 3 años😔, esto me llevo a qué me hospitalizaran y me inyectaran 2 antipsicoticos, aripiprazol y clozapina les rogué que cualquier cosa menos antipsicoticos no me hicieron caso... Cai a un centro psiquiatrico el cuál se me obligó nuevamente a retomar el welbutrin y me empezaron a suministrar Onlazapina a hoy estoy tomando esto pero tengo la intención nuevamente de empezar a reducir el welbutrin, a hoy me siento desesperado, muy nervioso, desmotivado, no se que hacer😔😔, aún con disfunción sexual, pies y manos fríos, y no salgo de casa😔 ¿Que me puedes recomendar? Según los medicos tuve un brote psicótico no lo sé.... Lo dudo Marzo 2024 - Sertralina 50 mg por 4 días, suspensión inmediata, efectos como: desconexión total en las emociones, apatía. Todo mejoró y volvió a la normalidad, a los 20 días amanecí con un TAG que nunca relacioné con la medicación anterior tomada, insomnio, mente en blanco, cambios bruscos de temperatura, inicio de psicosis con voces, etc... Después Sedoxil 1mg hasta abril 2024, suspensión brusca por deterioro cognitivo de corta duración, el psiquiatra nunca me advirtió sobre esto y lo que provocaba la medicación. Luego de tomar Escitalopram genérico por 15 días al aumentar la dosis fui presentando síntomas como demencia, luego: Pristiq 50 mg con quetiapina 25 y 50 mg bloqueo mental, disfunción sexual, me entero de la relación del medicamento con pssd, intento suspender la medicación dividiendo las pastillas de pristiq con ayuda de un psicólogo clínico en menos de dos semanas, un mal procedimiento me dejó con un problema de atención y entré en estado de abstinencia, me recetan levomepromazina en gotas para ayudarme a dormir, más deterioro cognitivo, decidí suspenderlo y buscar otro médico. Luego welbutrin con lorazepam en gotas para dormir, mejoró y corrigió algo que dejó el pristiq, dejó de funcionar al tiempo y fui cada vez más enfermo con síntomas secundarios, actualmente octubre 2024 suspensión de welbutrin lo logre dejar y estuve mal una semana, luego todo empezó a mejorar hasta la ruptura de una relación (8 de noviembre de 2024) cayendo totalmente casi al suicidio, me hospitalizaron y me introdujeron medicamentos a la fuerza. -Clozapina inyectada 5mg 1 dosis -abilify inyectado 5mg 1 dosis -Alpraxolam inyectado Actualmente me reiniciaron a la fuerza el WELBUTRIN 150 mg y agregaron onlazapina 5 mg para "dormir".
Moderator Jane318 Posted November 16, 2024 Moderator Posted November 16, 2024 4 hours ago, Alejogc06 said: Hola, realmente algo mal, suspendí Wellbutrin y me estaba recuperando con vitaminas y hierbas naturales, lamentablemente caí muy muy profundo con intención de suicidarme por la ruptura de mi relación de pareja de 3 años😔, esto me llevo a qué me hospitalizaran y me inyectaran 2 antipsicoticos, aripiprazol y clozapina les rogué que cualquier cosa menos antipsicoticos no me hicieron caso... Cai a un centro psiquiatrico el cuál se me obligó nuevamente a retomar el welbutrin y me empezaron a suministrar Onlazapina a hoy estoy tomando esto pero tengo la intención nuevamente de empezar a reducir el welbutrin, a hoy me siento desesperado, muy nervioso, desmotivado, no se que hacer😔😔, aún con disfunción sexual, pies y manos fríos, y no salgo de casa😔 ¿Que me puedes recomendar? Según los medicos tuve un brote psicótico no lo sé.... Lo dudo English translation via Google Translate: Hello, really a little wrong, I suspended Wellbutrin and I was recovering with vitamins and natural herbs, unfortunately I fell very very deep with the intention of committing suicide due to the breakdown of my 3-year relationship 😔, this led me to be hospitalized and I injected 2 antipsychotics, aripiprazole and clozapine I begged them that anything but antipsychotic. they ignored me. I fell to a psychiatric center which was forced to retake the welbutrin again and they started supplying me with Onlazapine. Today I am taking this but I intend again to start reducing the welbutrin, today I feel desperate, very nervous, unmotivated, I don't know what to do 😔 😔, even with sexual dysfunction, cold feet and hands, and I don't leave home> What can you recommend? According to the doctors I had a psychotic outbreak I don't know ... I doubt it. @Alejogc06 - I am am sorry to hear of these latest setbacks. However, I do not know how to advise you since it appears you ignored my previous counsel to reinstate WellButrin to alleviate your symptoms and you have not answered my previous questions about your drug history. If you could please simplify and update your signature as I requested above and to include these latest drugs, we will again try to help. Please use Google Translate or similar to translate your drug signature into English. I am not a doctor. My comments are based on my personal experience with ADs and tapering. Consult your doctor about your own medical decisions. My Intro Topic: Jane318: Tapering off Effexor - Struggling at the End. Heal me, O LORD, and I shall be healed. Jeremiah 17:14a. Other meds: 75 mcg/day Levothyroxine for hypothyroidism Supplements: Boron, Magnesium Threonate (3 per day of 2000 mg with 145 mg Mg), Vitamin E (every other day), Lugol's iodine (4 drops/day); Cod liver oil (1 tsp); 1 capsule DHA-1000 Fish oil in evening; Adrenal "cocktail" once or twice pd, with Vit C, B-2 (SP Cataplex, 2X daily), and Methyl B-12 (NOWFoods 1,000 mcg, 1X daily). AD HISTORY: 1985-2010 (est.) - various ADs including Wellbutrin, Elavil, Prozac, Zoloft. dosages unk. 1991-1992 - stopped AD while to conceive and during pregnancy. Resumed 1993 (?). 2005 (est.) - tried to stop, severe symptoms. Resumed meds. 2010 (est) - started Celexa (dose unk). 2016 (est) - started Effexor, working up to 112.5 mg/day. Stayed at this dose for many years. 2023 - Feb. began linear tapering off Effexor. Switched to hyperbolic tapering in April 2023. By July 12, 2024 at 1.36 mg / day. July 13, 2024 - up-dosed to 1.44 mg / day Effexor to address severe withdrawal symptoms. Felt somewhat better by next day; symptoms continue to improve. Held until 21 Dec, final dose 1.4 mg/day) Jan 2025 - 1.36 -> 1.33 -> 1.29 -> 1.25 mg/day Effexor (10% per BrassMonkey slide taper). Holding 3 weeks.
Alejogc06 Posted November 16, 2024 Author Posted November 16, 2024 El 25/10/2024 a las 1:15, Alejogc06 dijo: Hola@ jane318I really endured the withdrawal from Welbutrin and indeed the secondary symptoms such as joint pain and fatigue were improving, therefore I decided not to resume it (I was taking many supplements such as Omega 3, vitamin D, vitamin E, magnesium, I suppose this helps so that everything was not so difficult) the fall I had was due to the breakup of the relationship. Now I am taking psychiatric medication -Wellbutrin 150mg -Onlanzapine 5mg I received two injections one of Abilify 5mg and Clozapine 5mg and one of Alprazolam. Marzo 2024 - Sertralina 50 mg por 4 días, suspensión inmediata, efectos como: desconexión total en las emociones, apatía. Todo mejoró y volvió a la normalidad, a los 20 días amanecí con un TAG que nunca relacioné con la medicación anterior tomada, insomnio, mente en blanco, cambios bruscos de temperatura, inicio de psicosis con voces, etc... Después Sedoxil 1mg hasta abril 2024, suspensión brusca por deterioro cognitivo de corta duración, el psiquiatra nunca me advirtió sobre esto y lo que provocaba la medicación. Luego de tomar Escitalopram genérico por 15 días al aumentar la dosis fui presentando síntomas como demencia, luego: Pristiq 50 mg con quetiapina 25 y 50 mg bloqueo mental, disfunción sexual, me entero de la relación del medicamento con pssd, intento suspender la medicación dividiendo las pastillas de pristiq con ayuda de un psicólogo clínico en menos de dos semanas, un mal procedimiento me dejó con un problema de atención y entré en estado de abstinencia, me recetan levomepromazina en gotas para ayudarme a dormir, más deterioro cognitivo, decidí suspenderlo y buscar otro médico. Luego welbutrin con lorazepam en gotas para dormir, mejoró y corrigió algo que dejó el pristiq, dejó de funcionar al tiempo y fui cada vez más enfermo con síntomas secundarios, actualmente octubre 2024 suspensión de welbutrin lo logre dejar y estuve mal una semana, luego todo empezó a mejorar hasta la ruptura de una relación (8 de noviembre de 2024) cayendo totalmente casi al suicidio, me hospitalizaron y me introdujeron medicamentos a la fuerza. -Clozapina inyectada 5mg 1 dosis -abilify inyectado 5mg 1 dosis -Alpraxolam inyectado Actualmente me reiniciaron a la fuerza el WELBUTRIN 150 mg y agregaron onlazapina 5 mg para "dormir".
Moderator Jane318 Posted November 19, 2024 Moderator Posted November 19, 2024 On 11/16/2024 at 2:41 PM, Alejogc06 said: Now I am taking psychiatric medication -Wellbutrin 150mg -Onlanzapine 5mg I received two injections one of Abilify 5mg and Clozapine 5mg and one of Alprazolam. Can you please update your signature with this information. And please translate entire signature to English - just need date, drug, and dose. I am unsure what you are looking for from us right now. I am not a doctor. My comments are based on my personal experience with ADs and tapering. Consult your doctor about your own medical decisions. My Intro Topic: Jane318: Tapering off Effexor - Struggling at the End. Heal me, O LORD, and I shall be healed. Jeremiah 17:14a. Other meds: 75 mcg/day Levothyroxine for hypothyroidism Supplements: Boron, Magnesium Threonate (3 per day of 2000 mg with 145 mg Mg), Vitamin E (every other day), Lugol's iodine (4 drops/day); Cod liver oil (1 tsp); 1 capsule DHA-1000 Fish oil in evening; Adrenal "cocktail" once or twice pd, with Vit C, B-2 (SP Cataplex, 2X daily), and Methyl B-12 (NOWFoods 1,000 mcg, 1X daily). AD HISTORY: 1985-2010 (est.) - various ADs including Wellbutrin, Elavil, Prozac, Zoloft. dosages unk. 1991-1992 - stopped AD while to conceive and during pregnancy. Resumed 1993 (?). 2005 (est.) - tried to stop, severe symptoms. Resumed meds. 2010 (est) - started Celexa (dose unk). 2016 (est) - started Effexor, working up to 112.5 mg/day. Stayed at this dose for many years. 2023 - Feb. began linear tapering off Effexor. Switched to hyperbolic tapering in April 2023. By July 12, 2024 at 1.36 mg / day. July 13, 2024 - up-dosed to 1.44 mg / day Effexor to address severe withdrawal symptoms. Felt somewhat better by next day; symptoms continue to improve. Held until 21 Dec, final dose 1.4 mg/day) Jan 2025 - 1.36 -> 1.33 -> 1.29 -> 1.25 mg/day Effexor (10% per BrassMonkey slide taper). Holding 3 weeks.
Alejogc06 Posted 8 hours ago Author Posted 8 hours ago Hi people, in 2024 I was taking these damn poisonous medications, Escitalopram, Desvenlafaxine, Quetiapine to sleep, Welbutrin, Rivotril drops, I have already stopped all the medications, a psychologist very quickly stopped me from taking Desvenlafaxine and left me with permanent sexual dysfunction, when I was taking it I already had it anyway, as of January 2025 I am the same and have not improved, my genitals feel dry, and with morphological changes, I have a damn ringing in my ears, and my sleep patterns are totally altered, along with cognition, I am taking omega 3, vitamin C, microdoses of tadalafil, and some other things but I am still the same, I don't know what to do, any recommendations I want to give me back my sexual drive and activity... what else do I do? what else do I take? Marzo 2024 - Sertralina 50 mg por 4 días, suspensión inmediata, efectos como: desconexión total en las emociones, apatía. Todo mejoró y volvió a la normalidad, a los 20 días amanecí con un TAG que nunca relacioné con la medicación anterior tomada, insomnio, mente en blanco, cambios bruscos de temperatura, inicio de psicosis con voces, etc... Después Sedoxil 1mg hasta abril 2024, suspensión brusca por deterioro cognitivo de corta duración, el psiquiatra nunca me advirtió sobre esto y lo que provocaba la medicación. Luego de tomar Escitalopram genérico por 15 días al aumentar la dosis fui presentando síntomas como demencia, luego: Pristiq 50 mg con quetiapina 25 y 50 mg bloqueo mental, disfunción sexual, me entero de la relación del medicamento con pssd, intento suspender la medicación dividiendo las pastillas de pristiq con ayuda de un psicólogo clínico en menos de dos semanas, un mal procedimiento me dejó con un problema de atención y entré en estado de abstinencia, me recetan levomepromazina en gotas para ayudarme a dormir, más deterioro cognitivo, decidí suspenderlo y buscar otro médico. Luego welbutrin con lorazepam en gotas para dormir, mejoró y corrigió algo que dejó el pristiq, dejó de funcionar al tiempo y fui cada vez más enfermo con síntomas secundarios, actualmente octubre 2024 suspensión de welbutrin lo logre dejar y estuve mal una semana, luego todo empezó a mejorar hasta la ruptura de una relación (8 de noviembre de 2024) cayendo totalmente casi al suicidio, me hospitalizaron y me introdujeron medicamentos a la fuerza. -Clozapina inyectada 5mg 1 dosis -abilify inyectado 5mg 1 dosis -Alpraxolam inyectado Actualmente me reiniciaron a la fuerza el WELBUTRIN 150 mg y agregaron onlazapina 5 mg para "dormir".
Moderator Jane318 Posted 6 hours ago Moderator Posted 6 hours ago Greetings @Alejogc06. I am sorry you are struggling right now. I recommend you search the site for PSSD, and you will find several posts that will answer most or all of your questions. For example, here is one post you may want to read: PSSD: success story for PSSD and ongoing discontinuation symptoms, please read Please note that we are doing a poll on PSSD now, and I invite you to participate: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/forums/topic/32071-poll-did-you-get-sexual-dysfunction-pssd-or-emotional-anesthesia-after-you-stopped-all-drugs/#comment-717921 A few requests, please. 1. Please post your questions in your Intro topic: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/forums/topic/31778-alejogc06-welbutrin-withdrawal-very-fast-i-restart-the-drug-again/#comment-712553. Our Administrator will be making this change. 2. Please do not highlight the text in your posts - white text with black background is very difficult to read. 3. Please translate your signature into English. Best wishes. I am not a doctor. My comments are based on my personal experience with ADs and tapering. Consult your doctor about your own medical decisions. My Intro Topic: Jane318: Tapering off Effexor - Struggling at the End. Heal me, O LORD, and I shall be healed. Jeremiah 17:14a. Other meds: 75 mcg/day Levothyroxine for hypothyroidism Supplements: Boron, Magnesium Threonate (3 per day of 2000 mg with 145 mg Mg), Vitamin E (every other day), Lugol's iodine (4 drops/day); Cod liver oil (1 tsp); 1 capsule DHA-1000 Fish oil in evening; Adrenal "cocktail" once or twice pd, with Vit C, B-2 (SP Cataplex, 2X daily), and Methyl B-12 (NOWFoods 1,000 mcg, 1X daily). AD HISTORY: 1985-2010 (est.) - various ADs including Wellbutrin, Elavil, Prozac, Zoloft. dosages unk. 1991-1992 - stopped AD while to conceive and during pregnancy. Resumed 1993 (?). 2005 (est.) - tried to stop, severe symptoms. Resumed meds. 2010 (est) - started Celexa (dose unk). 2016 (est) - started Effexor, working up to 112.5 mg/day. Stayed at this dose for many years. 2023 - Feb. began linear tapering off Effexor. Switched to hyperbolic tapering in April 2023. By July 12, 2024 at 1.36 mg / day. July 13, 2024 - up-dosed to 1.44 mg / day Effexor to address severe withdrawal symptoms. Felt somewhat better by next day; symptoms continue to improve. Held until 21 Dec, final dose 1.4 mg/day) Jan 2025 - 1.36 -> 1.33 -> 1.29 -> 1.25 mg/day Effexor (10% per BrassMonkey slide taper). Holding 3 weeks.
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