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  2. Hi Sassenach, I hope you had a wonderful wedding anniversary celebration! So, I tried dissolving the DLPA in water and it is not easy....there is so much powder inside a 500 mg capsule and trying to dissolve it in 10 ml of water is hard...plus, the powder itself is sticky....I have attached a few pics for you to view....not sure if they are helpful or not... I ended up drawing 7.5 ml though and taking it but I am just not sure how accurate it is since so much of the powder sticks to the sides of the glass and the bottom Also, I take the DLPA at 8:30am which is when I am already at work....I don't think I can try to make this concoction when I am at work....I liked taking the Prozac and DLPA two hours apart so I could see how I felt after taking each one....Is it possible for me to take the DLPA earlier? Is there another method to tapering off the aminos? Should I take the Prozac and DLPA at the same time? I know I made the mistake of reducing DLPA by 50% the first time, but luckily, I feel so much better than when I was taking 1000 mg. It was just too stimulating to my system and it was a living nightmare... About my heartbeat, yes, I think it is palpitations and not an irregular HB. It just feels like some of my HB's feel more pronounced than others, and sometimes it feels like something is fluttering.... Thank you, HopeFloats
  3. sounds like a good plan!! I'm glad you're going to let up on yourself, I think people are much harder on themselves than they um, "should" be or need to be. I think it could even be counterproductive. I do the same thing, and you know, not only does it make me feel worse instead of better, it doesn't seem to change things in a positive way, either!! so, let's all be kinder to ourselves, what do you say?
  4. Thanks for the reply I've had a good read of the thread and I think you're right I'll try and taper out the Prozac first
  5. My name is Lisa aka drugged. The side effects from my current dosage of venlafaxine are very close to intolerable but reducing the dose quickly would cause intolerable withdrawal. When I look at a capsule of venlafaxine in my daily meds container I actually feel hatred and loathing for it. I want to flush it down the toilet, flush all of them down the toilet, but I know from experience what would happen so I take the dose and I know that in X hours the side effects will get really ugly. Side effects and withdrawal symptoms basically blur into a big amorphous blob of misery.
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  7. woof

    Cannabis, marijuana, THC, and CBD or Hemp oil

    Hello ChessieCat, I do, I really do appreciate the fact that I have just come from a few years of hell. And I am thankful everyday that anxiety has finally completely left me, I can enjoy things again and that I sleep everynight. 🙏 Thanks Woof, Woof😀
  8. Checking in. For the month so far (doing the BM slide), I've reduced escitalopram by 5.59% as follows. mg % 7/19/2019 5.35 2.76 7/26/2019 5.30 0.93 8/04/2019 5.25 0.95 8/11/2019 5.20 0.95 Wd symptoms have been very manageable. However, it's been 7 days since last taper and I'm now having some symptoms arise. Is that unusual? I'm finding I can make a larger taper in the first week, followed by 3 smaller tapers. Assuming this round of wd symptoms fades quickly, next month I will try to reduce by more than 5.6%. Maybe try 7 or 8%.
  9. Guilietta

    bayernbaby: tapering 20 mg Duloxetine

    Hi bayernbaby, Welcome to SA. I am also tapering duloxetine. I am not a moderator but I can share my experiences with this drug and tapering. For the tapering process - the BrassMonkey slide taper has made a huge improvement in my withdrawal effects. I initially made the 2 mg drop per advice of the MD - and was miserable for more than a month. I should have held at that point - but didn't know any better - so had prolonged issues. I have found in my case that WD symptoms have appeared weeks or a couple of months after a drop - and with no apparent trigger. I am also taking clonazapem - which is on my taper list. I chose to taper duloxetine first. Clonazepam has as Gridley pointed out a sedating effect and I have also been on it for years. If you are on a short acting compound (which I currently am) I have found that splitting the dose makes a HUGE difference. Good luck. G.
  10. Guilietta

    DavidfromTexas

    p.s. Try blue light blocking glasses when looking at computer screens, your TV, etc. There is evidence that they help with sleep https://www.cnet.com/how-to/what-are-blue-light-blocking-glasses/. You can purchase an array of them from Amazon. Try comedies as opposed to thrillers at the cinema.
  11. it was a hard week and I didn't feel good yesterday at all but kept fighting it and making it worse, I guess. I always find a way to blame myself for feeling bad: I wasn't trying hard enough or I was trying too hard. today my goal is simple: stop expecting to feel better than I do. accept what I actually feel. we'll see how that goes. today I am grateful for this beautiful weather I am grateful for library books I a grateful there is a Unitarian Universalist church in a town 30 minutes away that I can go to my plan for church is to avoid all caffeine, expect to be nervous, don't expect to enjoy it because I don't like being new places and trying to meet new people, and plan on coming home after and doing nothing but reading. it's a plan.
  12. Gridley

    bayernbaby: tapering 20 mg Duloxetine

    We recommend tapering only one drug at a time, so you're doing it right, tapering the activating Cymbalta first, while leaving the sedating Clonazepam as a buffer to be tapered after you're off the Cymbalta. Taking multiple psych drugs? Which drug to taper first? Again, please be very careful about the rate you're tapering the Cymbalta. Of course, you're free to determine your own taper rate, but It would be better to slow down now than after you start experiencing withdrawal symptoms.
  13. Guilietta

    DavidfromTexas

    Hi David. I have experienced many of the symptoms you listed in your post of Aug 13 - 16th. Chills pre-bed time (or some times during the night) - I'd end up putting on PJs, a bathrobe, and climbing into bed (and socks), and fleece robe on top of the whole lot. I felt better. As for the jitters - nothing to do but put up with it and know it is the medication side effect. Eventually it goes away. It is unpleasant. There are weighted blankets you can find on Amazon. You might try sleep masks that block out light. There are some that have pads and the slight pressure may be relaxing. Eat more protein and whole grains and less sugar. Protein is important for kicking the neurotransmitters into action. Whole grains and fiber help stabilize blood sugar - and balance with protein at the same snack or meal. Low blood sugar (or spikes caused by all the sugar) will cause light headedness, etc. So will dehydration. So drink plenty of water. I hope this is somewhat helpful. I defer to the experts on the beads. G.
  14. Tomash

    Tomash

    Hello, I got back here after sometime. I had pretty hard year. Finally, a coach from a charity helped me to get a steady job. Since then, I have got money for futher progress. I lowered the dose a bit fast, as till 5mg I feel usually comfortable. Now I am waiting for stabilization and I will wait through out the usually dificult autumn. Then I will taper off by the method (10% per month). I have a future plan for a better job and I am excited by that. I am also starting to have more relationships. In the last few weeks, I was surprised by my discovery of DMT halucinogen, which is probably natural part of our bodies. I did some research, and found that antipsychotics lower its level, which i guess can contribute to the "zombie" like state of those who are taking it. I started to higher DMT in my body, apart form meditation certain diet and being in nature helps a lot. Also I am curious about the effect of antipsychotic withdrawal on DMT level in the brain. Maybe that is why withdrawal makes LSD-like states of mind? Is it similar to the dopamin problem? I am looking for answers how to lower DMT in the body as well, but apart from eating meat I am not finding an answer. It might be true we need DMT but need a strong and healthy nervous system as well. Anyway, it shows again how slow taper is important.
  15. Guilietta

    Guilietta

    Hi there! I split the doses with the liquid as my symptoms starting about 3 became anywhere from unpleasant to acutely unpleasant. I did not realize until Alostrata's comments that liquids are short-acting - so the liquid is out of my system for the most part by 1.30-2ish. Perhaps with beads I may not have this issue as they are ER. But I honestly don't know as I am at 50% of the dose with generic cymbalta (12 hour half life as you doubtless know). ChessieCat indicated in one of here posts I believe that the transition from one form to another may need to be taken into consideration. With ER formula I am not sure of the amount of wriggle room - but I'll make a try where you think we have some flexibility. I am in general sensitive to CNS meds. The 2 mg drop (per MD!) in the liquid was intolerable. Thanks again, G.
  16. After holding for 2 months, I felt ready for a small cut. I have only cut by 6.25 mg (about 5%). Let's see how it goes. Study stress continues, but all will improve significantly after 20 September, after my draft project submission.
  17. Jlkdr

    Jlkdr: off Prozac

    Thank you so much, Shep!❤️ Very helpful!! I already feel my anxiety waning. I’ll start the meditation today. I can listen on flight as well!
  18. Shep

    Jlkdr: off Prozac

    8-Minute Fear of Flying Guided Meditation and Talk Down with Michelle video (8 minutes) From the description of the video: A fear of flying is quite common. It comes with the fear of not being in total control. The challenge of surrendering. This 8-minute meditation may be best with repetitive listening and make flying a better and more manageable experience. Even if you need a "rescue dose" of Klonopin, it's not the end of the world, only a reminder that you still have some work to do. And that's part of the process of coming off psychiatric drugs.
  19. August 2019 I was searching for a job but no luck, I spoke to 5 employers the last month but no luck. I've had high temp and apathy. and i read this is neuroleptic malign syndrome. I contacted doctor and he refused to answer. saying ask your doctor. when present the syndrome then discontinue. its serious If i discontinue what will come then? then what symptoms insomnia, the last i want. OR continue tapering The high temp which is neuroleptic syndrome in the morning it goes down and in the evening it goes up, I drink juices and smoothies. also as you know one of my favorite activities is the gym, i spend 1 hour and it helps me take away stress. and my hobby. and for now OFF. Thanks Miko
  20. Andie

    Andie: tapering off Pristiq

    I've been to see a Psychopharmacologist. He recommends coming off the compounded Pristiq ASAP. The time release is too critical as I am sensitive to fluctuations (as I've always suspected) He says compounded Pristiq should always be taken in divided doses and that Compounding Pharmacies are allowed a certain room for error each side of the prescribed dose. This isn't going by to work for me. Speaking to the Chief Pharmacist working for the same Hospital, he believes that Pristiq is the hardest medication to safely taper from because of the time release and lack of dosage options in Australia. I won't be posting here for a while. I need to digest that I've developed withdrawal syndrome after a slow and careful taper. I am taking some time to work out the next step.
  21. Jlkdr

    Jlkdr: off Prozac

    I am flying out to go visit my daughter. Any ideas for calming anxiety on flight? I usually take extra klonopin up to 3 mg. This will be my first time flying without. Jlkdr
  22. Onmyway

    Maya: introduction

    I've had three hyperthyroid crises when I'm usually hypothyroid. They were while not in WD and feel very similar - quick weight loss, insomnia, palpitations, anxiety, dysphoria restlessness. All times caused by thyroid inflammation. (Twice on no thyroid meds, once while on euthyrox). WD can mess things up even worse. Get your levels checked before you do anything else. I'm not saying these things are not or can't be WD but wouldn't it be lucky if they would from the thyroid and you could lower /quit your thyroid meds to get quick relief?
  23. Hi persistente, as someone who questions whether this is WD and whether it's the return of symptoms, I understand you! I need to remind myself it is indeed WD. what you are going through is WD. Have you read the book or articles by Dr Irving Kirsch? (Talks about how ADs work as placebos and are no better than placebos). Or Anatomy of an Epidemic by Robert Whitaker? (Talks about iatrogenic harm from psych drugs) Your 'bipolar-ness' is caused by the SSRI and now by the distabilization, it's a common side effect that leads to more drug prescriptions. I have never in my life been manic and during WD would have hypomania. It was/is uncomfortable. The fact that you had difficulties before you were put on the drugs does not mean you'll have them off of them. Most anxiety/depression is self limiting - gets better in a few months/year. However, it doesn't hurt to learn techniques to help in those situations. Do you have access to a therapist that does CBT? Or access to self help books using CBT? I can recommend books if you PM. (I don't check the forums often). They won't help as much with neuro emotions but they'll help in general. Kudos for taking care of your aunt I'm sure it means a lot to her even though it's a lot of responsibility for you. Hope your windows get longer and longer and the waves shallower!
  24. I work by this principle as well Gridley, but infrequently bounce amounts of olanzapine around that settle comfortably within a few days. From what I read on here that sort of dosing might be more brutal with SSRIs. There are also studies with neuroleptics showing good or better outcomes with alternate day doses as well, some referenced in the video gladtobehere1984 posted. May relate to half life of metabolisation or the pathways the different classes of drug affect, both, or who knows. Again my preferred approach is to work with a steady daily dose, but I do wonder if some of the neuroleptics, specifically olanzapine here, might be more forgiving than most of the SSRIs when used more intermittently.
  25. Sassenach

    Maya: introduction

    I understand you have not had problems in the past with Euthyrox but things change in W/D. When did you last have blood tests for your thyroid? If you go into hospital they will load you with higher dose meds unless procedures are very different in your country. Do not forget youare in W/D from a too fast taper. Low dose reinstatement is is the only known way to mitigate symptoms, but it important to know you have no underlying physical problems. Sassenach
  26. Maya

    Maya: introduction

    Hi, posting this story, don't know if allowed: https://patient.info/forums/discuss/harmed-or-suffered-adverse-effects-from-mirtazapine-i-need-your-stories-335312 I stopped sleeping at 30mg of Mirt (or before it when I was on sertraline in the meantime). I'm terribly tired but my head is as swollen, burning and hyper-alert. I was sleeping 4-6hrs but last 6 weeks I sleep 1-4 hrs at maximum. I'm sure all wd related issues as the body is under cortisol/adrenaline attack (Mirt has the strongest impact on HPA axis and adrenals from all ADs). I have never had any problems related to thyroid meds, I always slept 9-10hrs, never experienced anxiety before this AD and this neuroanxiety is really brutal. I'm sleep deprived and spiralled into deep depression as I see no way out of this mess, I'm already totally numb emotionally and physically. I'm weak from significant weight loss (I'm losing steadily), I can't leave house. New body symptoms start as hips pains, back pains, urinating problems. In fact, I don't know if there is anything much it can be done to support the body atm. Can't imagine what drugs are thrown at me that could cure it as well as takeaway of Mirt abruptly in a hospital. I feel desperate as this suffering can be much worse as it is.
  27. Sassenach

    Maya: introduction

    Hi Maya Sorry did not put very well yesterday. OMW has put it better above although I have never seen hair loss or acne directly related to W/D. You should get tourself checked as W/D can create med complications. Hopefully this may also convince your family you are trying to get well. Once we know an updose is not going to make matters worse, we can discuss it. Plese let us know how you are doing. Sassenach
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