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  2. LostWaves

    LostWaves: Few questions about Risperidone

    By becoming dependent on another drug, I meant switching drugs. I was planning on going cold turkey from my Risperidone, after being on it for two weeks. To my understanding, there would definitely be less than half of the last dosage of Aripiprazole, left in my body. But I'm wondering that if that amount can cause me to experience tachycardia (aripiprazole withdrawal symptom), when I cold turkey from Risperidone.
  3. When did you make this change? What was your clonazepam schedule before Clonazepam 0.1 mg/daily 7am 0.25mg, 4pm 0.25mg, 10pm 0.5mg On my prescription bottle it says to take 0.5mg twice a day or as needed. My doctor told me to only try to take it if I need to. He says the less I take the better. (Here in Canada all the doctors do not like prescribing benzos anymore) that is why the psychiatrist pushed me so hard to take the lyrica so he could take me of the benzos. What was your clonazepam schedule before Clonazepam 0.1 mg/daily 7am 0.25mg, 4pm 0.25mg, 10pm 0.5mgI Clonazepam 1mg/ three times a day How was your IBS diagnosed? Through a scope done of my stomach and endoscopy When was your high blood pressure last reviewed? 2 months ago at my doctors office Everytime I have it taken when taking the medications it is good. I'm asking these questions because it probably would be best for you to taper off the drugs that you don't need any more. Has one doctor prescribed all these drugs? Yes my family doctor I have had for the last 15 years. Unless I was in the psychiatric ward then the psychiatrist does what he wants to.
  4. bmi197143

    bmi197143: Help trying to taper 2

    From the Amitriptyline 0.017 of actual pill weight. If not tell me now so I can my normal dose.
  5. bmi197143

    bmi197143: Help trying to taper 2

    Is this good weight to jump off from.
  6. bmi197143

    bmi197143: Help trying to taper 2

    Gridley suggested I stop the Amitriptyline tonight which I did.
  7. bmi197143

    bmi197143: Help trying to taper 2

    Am taking 0.017 Amitriptyline and 0.030 Ropinerole at 6pm every night and taking 2mg Alprazolam at 9 at night to sleep. I started all drugs July 2019.
  8. Altostrata

    LostWaves: Few questions about Risperidone

    If the newer drug, such as a benzodiazepine, was masking withdrawal symptoms from aripiprazole, you may feel the withdrawal symptoms if you go off the second drug. You might also get withdrawal symptoms from the second drug. Did you change drugs again?
  9. Altostrata

    bmi197143: Help trying to taper 2

    Exactly what drugs are you taking now, at what dosages and times of day? When did you start each drug? To help us out, follow these instructions Please put your drug and withdrawal history in your signature You may need to use a computer to do this.
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  11. bmi197143

    bmi197143: Help trying to taper 2

    Still have to get off the Ropinerole. Pill weight is .204 dosage is 25 mg am currently taking 0.030.
  12. bmi197143

    bmi197143: Help trying to taper 2

    Currently using a jewelry scale. And only real bad symtom so far is tinnitus is loud in left ear mild head ache. Using a Benzo to sleep as suggested.
  13. When did you make this change? What was your clonazepam schedule before Clonazepam 0.1 mg/daily 7am 0.25mg, 4pm 0.25mg, 10pm 0.5mg How was your IBS diagnosed? When was your high blood pressure last reviewed? I'm asking these questions because it probably would be best for you to taper off the drugs that you don't need any more. Has one doctor prescribed all these drugs? To help us out, follow these instructions Please put your drug and withdrawal history in your signature You may need to use a computer to do this.
  14. bmi197143

    bmi197143: Help trying to taper 2

    I did 0.017 for the last 12 days.
  15. It's a simple question. What makes you feel better? Or at least, what helps you stay strong when things are at their hardest? Do you journal? Meditate? Did you change your diet? Start knitting? Who's work speaks to you? For me, I started tracking my daily happiness on a scale of 1-100. I figured if I could get myself to an average of 51, then the scale would tip just enough in the positive direction to justify a life worth living. This was such a modest goal that I found that hitting 51 over the course of a week was possible even if I had multiple crap days that clocked in at like, 23. Having something so concrete kept me grounded even if I was feeling like an emotional tilt-a-whirl. I'd love to see what everyone is doing to self-soothe, and whether or not anyone has come up with any strategies that helped them get through their day to day. Get specific! Pontificate! We're all so strong to still be here, so share what's in that unflinching will.
  16. Altostrata

    bmi197143: Help trying to taper 2

    Are you taking 0.017mg in pill weight now? How are you measuring this? Have you had withdrawal symptoms while tapering?
  17. bmi197143

    bmi197143: Help trying to taper 2

    10mg dosage and 0.50 actual pill weight O sorry 0.050 is the actual pill weight.
  18. Altostrata

    bmi197143: Help trying to taper 2

    What is the dosage in milligrams? (Att @brassmonkey)
  19. This is the only topic in all caps anywhere on this site I hope the warning is clear.
  20. Altostrata

    NEVER SKIP DOSES TO TAPER

    We have seen many people come here with severe withdrawal symptoms after following their prescribers' or their own misguided plan to skip doses in order to taper. You may hear of people who got away with skipping doses to taper. That is possible, some people cold turkey without a problem. However, after cold turkey, skipping is perhaps the most risky way to come off psychiatric drugs. Both can result in terrible, severe withdrawal symptoms that might not fully be reversed by reinstatement of the drug. Skipping doses causes the level of the drug in your bloodstream to go up and down, even with long-acting drugs such as fluoxetine. This puts stress on your nervous system, potentially causing withdrawal symptoms. It's like playing ping-pong with your brain. NEVER SKIP DOSES TO TAPER. If after seeing this, you decide to skip doses to taper and get withdrawal symptoms, do not come back here asking for help. It is unaccountable why some doctors recommend skipping doses to taper. There is quite a large body of research showing that when people skip doses, they get withdrawal symptoms. Baldwin, D. S., Cooper, J. A., Huusom, A. K. T., & Hindmarch, I. (2006). A double-blind, randomized, parallel-group, flexible-dose study to evaluate the tolerability, efficacy and effects of treatment discontinuation with escitalopram and paroxetine in patients with major depressive disorder. International Clinical Psychopharmacology, 21(3), 159–169. https://doi.org/10.1097/01.yic.0000194377.88330.1d Bauer, R., Glenn, T., Alda, M., Sagduyu, K., Marsh, W., Grof, P., Munoz, R., Murray, G., Ritter, P., Lewitzka, U., Severus, E., Whybrow, P. C., & Bauer, M. (2013). Antidepressant dosage taken by patients with bipolar disorder: Factors associated with irregularity. International Journal of Bipolar Disorders, 1. https://doi.org/10.1186/2194-7511-1-26 Bulloch, A. G. M., & Patten, S. B. (2010). Non-adherence with psychotropic medications in the general population. Social Psychiatry and Psychiatric Epidemiology, 45(1), 47–56. https://doi.org/10.1007/s00127-009-0041-5 Dilsaver, S. C., & Greden, J. F. (1984). Antidepressant withdrawal phenomena. Biological Psychiatry, 19(2), 237–256. Drug Ther Perspect. (2001). Antidepressant discontinuation syndromes: Common, under-recognised and not always benign. Drugs & Therapy Perspectives, 17(20), 12–15. https://doi.org/10.2165/00042310-200117200-00004 Gallagher, J. C., Strzinek, R. A., Cheng, R. J., Ausmanas, M. K., Astl, D., & Seljan, P. (2012). The effect of dose titration and dose tapering on the tolerability of desvenlafaxine in women with vasomotor symptoms associated with menopause. Journal of Women’s Health (2002), 21(2), 188–198. https://doi.org/10.1089/jwh.2011.2764 Greden, J. F. (1993). Antidepressant maintenance medications: When to discontinue and how to stop. The Journal of Clinical Psychiatry, 54 Suppl, 39–45; discussion 46-47. Haddad, P. M. (2001). Antidepressant Discontinuation Syndromes. Drug Safety, 24(3), 183–197. Henry, M. E., Moore, C. M., Kaufman, M. J., Michelson, D., Schmidt, M. E., Stoddard, E., Vuckevic, A. J., Berreira, P. J., Cohen, B. M., & Renshaw, P. F. (2000). Brain kinetics of paroxetine and fluoxetine on the third day of placebo substitution: A fluorine MRS study. The American Journal of Psychiatry, 157(9), 1506–1508. https://doi.org/10.1176/appi.ajp.157.9.1506 Kaplan, E. M. (1997). Antidepressant noncompliance as a factor in the discontinuation syndrome. The Journal of Clinical Psychiatry, 58 Suppl 7, 31–35; discussion 36. Meijer, W. E. E., Bouvy, M. L., Heerdink, E. R., Urquhart, J., & Leufkens, H. G. M. (2001). Spontaneous lapses in dosing during chronic treatment with selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors. British Journal of Psychiatry, 179(6), 519–522. https://doi.org/10.1192/bjp.179.6.519 Michelson, D., Fava, M., Amsterdam, J., Apter, J., Londborg, P., Tamura, R., & Tepner, R. G. (2000). Interruption of selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor treatment. Double-blind, placebo-controlled trial. The British Journal of Psychiatry: The Journal of Mental Science, 176, 363–368. https://doi.org/10.1192/bjp.176.4.363 Osterberg, L. G., Urquhart, J., & Blaschke, T. F. (2010). Understanding Forgiveness: Minding and Mining the Gaps Between Pharmacokinetics and Therapeutics. Clinical Pharmacology & Therapeutics, 88(4), 457–459. https://doi.org/10.1038/clpt.2010.171 Rosenbaum, J. F., Fava, M., Hoog, S. L., Ascroft, R. C., & Krebs, W. B. (1998). Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor discontinuation syndrome: A randomized clinical trial. Biological Psychiatry, 44(2), 77–87. https://doi.org/10.1016/s0006-3223(98)00126-7
  21. There is quite a large body of research showing that when people skip doses, they get withdrawal symptoms. Baldwin, D. S., Cooper, J. A., Huusom, A. K. T., & Hindmarch, I. (2006). A double-blind, randomized, parallel-group, flexible-dose study to evaluate the tolerability, efficacy and effects of treatment discontinuation with escitalopram and paroxetine in patients with major depressive disorder. International Clinical Psychopharmacology, 21(3), 159–169. https://doi.org/10.1097/01.yic.0000194377.88330.1d Bauer, R., Glenn, T., Alda, M., Sagduyu, K., Marsh, W., Grof, P., Munoz, R., Murray, G., Ritter, P., Lewitzka, U., Severus, E., Whybrow, P. C., & Bauer, M. (2013). Antidepressant dosage taken by patients with bipolar disorder: Factors associated with irregularity. International Journal of Bipolar Disorders, 1. https://doi.org/10.1186/2194-7511-1-26 Bulloch, A. G. M., & Patten, S. B. (2010). Non-adherence with psychotropic medications in the general population. Social Psychiatry and Psychiatric Epidemiology, 45(1), 47–56. https://doi.org/10.1007/s00127-009-0041-5 Dilsaver, S. C., & Greden, J. F. (1984). Antidepressant withdrawal phenomena. Biological Psychiatry, 19(2), 237–256. Drug Ther Perspect. (2001). Antidepressant discontinuation syndromes: Common, under-recognised and not always benign. Drugs & Therapy Perspectives, 17(20), 12–15. https://doi.org/10.2165/00042310-200117200-00004 Gallagher, J. C., Strzinek, R. A., Cheng, R. J., Ausmanas, M. K., Astl, D., & Seljan, P. (2012). The effect of dose titration and dose tapering on the tolerability of desvenlafaxine in women with vasomotor symptoms associated with menopause. Journal of Women’s Health (2002), 21(2), 188–198. https://doi.org/10.1089/jwh.2011.2764 Greden, J. F. (1993). Antidepressant maintenance medications: When to discontinue and how to stop. The Journal of Clinical Psychiatry, 54 Suppl, 39–45; discussion 46-47. Haddad, P. M. (2001). Antidepressant Discontinuation Syndromes. Drug Safety, 24(3), 183–197. Henry, M. E., Moore, C. M., Kaufman, M. J., Michelson, D., Schmidt, M. E., Stoddard, E., Vuckevic, A. J., Berreira, P. J., Cohen, B. M., & Renshaw, P. F. (2000). Brain kinetics of paroxetine and fluoxetine on the third day of placebo substitution: A fluorine MRS study. The American Journal of Psychiatry, 157(9), 1506–1508. https://doi.org/10.1176/appi.ajp.157.9.1506 Kaplan, E. M. (1997). Antidepressant noncompliance as a factor in the discontinuation syndrome. The Journal of Clinical Psychiatry, 58 Suppl 7, 31–35; discussion 36. Meijer, W. E. E., Bouvy, M. L., Heerdink, E. R., Urquhart, J., & Leufkens, H. G. M. (2001). Spontaneous lapses in dosing during chronic treatment with selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors. British Journal of Psychiatry, 179(6), 519–522. https://doi.org/10.1192/bjp.179.6.519 Michelson, D., Fava, M., Amsterdam, J., Apter, J., Londborg, P., Tamura, R., & Tepner, R. G. (2000). Interruption of selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor treatment. Double-blind, placebo-controlled trial. The British Journal of Psychiatry: The Journal of Mental Science, 176, 363–368. https://doi.org/10.1192/bjp.176.4.363 Osterberg, L. G., Urquhart, J., & Blaschke, T. F. (2010). Understanding Forgiveness: Minding and Mining the Gaps Between Pharmacokinetics and Therapeutics. Clinical Pharmacology & Therapeutics, 88(4), 457–459. https://doi.org/10.1038/clpt.2010.171 Rosenbaum, J. F., Fava, M., Hoog, S. L., Ascroft, R. C., & Krebs, W. B. (1998). Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor discontinuation syndrome: A randomized clinical trial. Biological Psychiatry, 44(2), 77–87. https://doi.org/10.1016/s0006-3223(98)00126-7 We have seen many people come here with severe withdrawal symptoms after following their prescribers' or their own misguided plan to skip doses in order to taper. You may hear of people who got away with skipping doses to taper. That is possible, some people cold turkey without a problem. However, after cold turkey, skipping is perhaps the most risky way to come off psychiatric drugs. NEVER SKIP DOSES TO TAPER. If after seeing this, you decide to skip doses to taper and get withdrawal symptoms, do not come back here asking for help. I hope that answers your question.
  22. Altostrata

    How to find just about anything on this site

    To find the topics marked with a sun ( ☼), enter this in Google search: ☼ survivingantidepressants.org This will return all the ☼ topics. (☼ is the Unicode for this symbol. It does not work in site search.) The ☼ topics are people who have turned the corner and are on their roads to recovery.
  23. marie123

    marie123: tapering trazodone

    Hi Shebon. Yes, I've had various teeth hurting me during my three withdrawals and always told myself it's probably withdrawal. Some were.This tooth though was confirmed by a top endontist that I needed a filling. Believe me, I am glad it was just a filling. The meds have done some damage and caused real teeth issues for sure along with a former bad dentist. I had two teeth pulled last year and three root canals. One of them had a cracked root. I believe it happened because while I was taping trazodone, my jaw sometimes would just slam shut on it's own. Mirtazapine causes dry mouth, which causes cavities. My gums feel soft and mushy in some spots and I feel a sore here and there. It's Mirt's fault. It also gives me a sweet tooth. It has to go. I see that you're getting low on the Mirt. If you hit a wall as you get closer to the end, slow it down a lot so you just glide off. Good luck. Marie.
  24. Shebon

    marie123: tapering trazodone

    Hi Marie: At the beginning of my taper, I had a tooth that was sensitive to the touch, and hot and cold water. I went to see my dentist who thought I might need a root canal. I had the root canal scheduled for mid-April with an endontist. The tooth thing cleared up within 8 days and has not come back. I remember this during my benzo taper too -- teeth hurting. So I am glad I did not need a root canal.....I think the tooth issue was due to the tapering of mirt. Best regards, Shebon
  25. Hi Survivor. You've certainly had your setbacks, but it looks like you are improving. Just keep holding and you will be better. The good news is your only taking a low dose of trazodone. I had a reaction to the flu shot last year and it messed me up for a few weeks. Marie.
  26. Welcome to SA, Eirik. What dosage of escitalopram were you on and how fast did you taper? From the symptoms you describe, it sounds as if you are experiencing withdrawal due to a too-fast taper. What seems like a slow taper is very often too fast and what results is withdrawal. The lack of emotions and inability to feel happiness (anhedonia) are typical withdrawal symptoms. Doctors, who get their information from the pharmaceutical companies, don't believe in the existence of withdrawal. What is withdrawal syndrome. Daily Checklist of Antidepressant Withdrawal Symptoms (PDF) Brain Remodelling When we take psychiatric medications, the CNS (central nervous system) responds by making changes over the months and years we take the drug(s). When the medication is discontinued, the CNS has to undo all the changes it made. Rebuilding the neurotransmitter production and reactivating the receptor and transporter cells takes time -- during that rebuilding process symptoms occur. You will heal from this withdrawal, but unfortunately we can't predict how long it will take. I know it is a shock that these drugs can have this effect, but they do. Again, it is very common in withdrawal to not feel any happiness. Very slowly and very gradually your feelings will return. The damage is not permanent. We don't recommend a lot of supplements on SA, as many members report being sensitive to them due to our over-reactive nervous systems, but two supplements that we do recommend are magnesium and omega 3 (fish oil). Many people find these to be calming to the nervous system. Magnesium, nature's calcium channel blocker Omega-3 fatty acids (fish oil) Add in one at a time and at a low dose in case you do experience problems. This is your Introduction topic, where you can ask questions and connect with other members. We're glad you found your way here.
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