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I don’t have resources, sorry. It’s just about not blaming yourself, accepting things as they come & not fighting it (VERY hard w/ some symptoms), living in the moment, stopping the constant mental problem solving & relaxing into it. For the Christian, trusting Christ in everything.

Same here. Although I’ve had that from the beginning. (With the mods)

@LotusRising any suggestion?? Should i hold more or start microtaper ??

None of us knew. We all trusted our doctors to take care of us, and as the oath says, do no harm. I honestly believe that even the doctors have been duped by big Pharma as well, and are just parroting their narrative. We all just do our best in the moment- no point beating ourselves up for what is done. Work on looking forward- good will come of this. It has to!!! Diet has been huge for me dealing with long covid symptoms (which are a lot like WD!). I am currently on a whole foods plant based diet with intermittent fasting. I don't think it's a one size fits all situation, but I can attest that cleaning up your diet can work wonders in so many ways. Do you have a break after finals? Spending some time just concentrating on wellness would be a huge benefit for you right now. I've been on disability for coming up on two years, and it has been a huge blessing. It is helpful to get rid of all the noise of our busy lives, and focus on who we are.

Thank you! I really needed this today. I pray that being young will give me a chance to heal. I’m shocked at how resilient my body was for like the first 7-8 meds I was on, I was okay for the most part! The last few were the last straw though it seems and my nervous system had had enough. I am not super good at not fighting my symptoms yet, but I’m trying, and I know it’s the only thing I can do. i appreciate you! I’m glad you’re feeling better. Your words are so encouraging.

This is hopefully just a wave….I do hope that this is just a part of WD and my intense OCD about my symptoms. maybe I’ll be one of the lucky ones who recover PSSD sooner since it’s only been a few months. I have to function….i have finals for my classes and I need to make it though… the brain fog and fatigue is insane though. May try a diet for cleaning up my gut… I swear some of this is probably connected to what the drugs have done to mess with good gut bacteria. Probably will test for SIBO at some point. My mental sharpness is the worst it’s ever been. I guess it was inevitable, I was on so many drugs… I hope others can learn from my story. I feel so stupid and guilty for going back to the doctor multiple times… I should’ve just quit the first time and never had gone back. i guess I didn’t fully know, my entire family told me everything was just depression and anxiety, convinced me to go back on meds. I listened and it got me in this cycle, I should’ve been stronger. They still don’t fully believe the drugs could’ve caused any of this, neither does my doctor. It feels lonely…

Hi @Bren711- I just wanted to say hello, and I'm so sorry for the suffering that your revolving door of drugs has caused. I went through a very similar time in the early/mid 2000s. I did recover for the most part, although knowing what I know now, I do wonder if some of the odd symptoms I had throughout my drug-free years might have actually been ongoing PAWS. But life absolutely did get better. It will for you, too. I also agree with you that fighting your symptoms is not useful. I'm a control freak at heart lol, but over the years, I've had to learn to just be in the moment, and accept where I'm at minute by minute. And I'm constantly reminding myself that the body and the mind do heal- healing is natural. We have to work hard NOT to heal. Make that your mantra! Wishing you more windows than waves, and a good, solid night's sleep! ❤️‍🩹

Hi @KateH- I'm new here too, and yes, we do make the best decisions we can for ourselves at the time. And we just weren't told the realities. I am (was, I suppose) a respiratory therapist, and you would think after watching a million patients over last 25 years coming out of drug induced stupors in the ICU, I would have been more aware. But there's no sense in looking back- we can only move forward. I appreciate your positive outlook- I'm crazy optimistic that this has all happened to me for a reason, and I'm determined to figure out what that reason is! Anyway- I wanted to say hello and welcome to a fellow healthcare professional. I look forward to following your journey!

Sorry, sorry. I remember. I asked a lot sorry. I was impolite.

Anyone experience with tapering very fast and reinstatement at a low dose and not stabilizing? Psychiatrist did a fast taper ( 2mg of Klonopin in 2 months), reinstatement at 1,5mg of Klonopin after the fast taper.I developed tachycardia during reinstatement. Went to psychiatrist he said none of the drugs I give you gives tachycardia.I am taking two neuroleptics ( risperidone 6mg and Zyprexa 10 Mg). She said risperidone can cause tachycardia. Before I took risperidone 6mg and Zyprexa 10 mgs and never had tachycardia.New psychiatrist wants me to go back to the original dose (1-1-2, Klonopin 0,5mg)and taper risperidone at the same time ( go from risperidone 6mg to 5mg). Can I get kindled if I up my Klonopin to 2mgs total)? I can't taper risperidone either because it is more than a 10 percent cut. This what she want me to take: Klonopin 0,5 mg 1-1-2 Zyprexa 10 mg 0-0-1 Risperidone 4mg 0-0-1 Risperidone 1mg 0-0-1 Lormetazepam 2mg 0-0-1/2 Cymbalta 60 Mg 1-1-0 This is what I take: Klonopin: 0,30-0-2 dry cut method Zyprexa 10mg: 0-0-1 Risperidone 6mg: 0-0-1 Lormetazepam 2mg: 0-0-1/2 Cymbalta 60 Mg: 1-1-0

Not in a vary good state right now. My pip is under review and it has pushed me over the edge. My symptoms have got alot worse and my mental health feels like it's deteriated. Have had to attend the local mental health crisis hub multipul times to get support. Holding at moment not doing anythnig with meds till at least i have sorted all forms and stuff. To be fair the DWP have been really good they have extended the time needed to get form back.

Anyone experience with tapering very fast and reinstatement at a low dose and not stabilizing? Psychiatrist did a fast taper ( 2mg of Klonopin in 2 months), reinstatement at 1,5mg of Klonopin after the fast taper.I developed tachycardia during reinstatement. Went to psychiatrist he said none of the drugs I give you gives tachycardia.I am taking two neuroleptics ( risperidone 6mg and Zyprexa 10 Mg). She said risperidone can cause tachycardia. Before I took risperidone 6mg and Zyprexa 10 mgs and never had tachycardia.New psychiatrist wants me to go back to the original dose (1-1-2, Klonopin 0,5mg)and taper risperidone at the same time ( go from risperidone 6mg to 5mg). Can I get kindled if I up my Klonopin to 2mgs total).I can't taper risperidone either because it is more than a 10 percent cut. This what she want me to take: Klonopin 0,5 mg 1-1-2 Zyprexa 10 mg 0-0-1 Risperidone 4mg 0-0-1 Risperidone 1mg 0-0-1 Lormetazepam 2mg 0-0-1/2 Cymbalta 60 Mg 1-1-0 This is what I take: Klonopin: 0,30-0-2 dry cut method Zyprexa 10mg: 0-0-1 Risperidone 6mg: 0-0-1 Lormetazepam 2mg: 0-0-1/2 Cymbalta 60 Mg: 1-1-0

Anytime, sweet friend. you got this! You can PM me if you need to.

Wow, seems so unfair given how slowly you went. I’m glad your windows seem really short now.

Escaping psychiatry, overcoming psychiatric drug abuse and their withdrawal, rejecting psychiatry insane sanism/meaning framework/belief system, making sense of all this and recovering can be hell, specially when doing it alone, without moral support, that's why so many of us needed to left the MH system/industry, because it's just harmful and insane, for a lot of people, pure oppression. Psychiatry forced me to through the same postraumatic and moral crisis that I believed to be over, when in reality I never found closure so it never ended. It was simply cruel. And not only that, it made me vulnerable to future abuse. Psychiatry only oppressed, alienated and confused me with its insane sanism, when I was extremely vulnerable. I'm still undoing all the damage psychiatry did to me.

Thank you for reading my report and for your good words. I know it can be really challenging to read what canadian doctors had to say about withdrawal. The difference of position with Dr Horowitz, Moncrieff and Read is striking. Still a long road ahead.

Thanks for your kindness and support @Ninabird

@Jaffa Understand what you mean. But I think you did the right thing. May not be worth the risk. Yes, I feel I did the wrong thing going zero. Different level. Didn't know about the delayed effect. It's true, you can get horrible WD even if you go slowly. I’m also worried about becoming diabled. Thought about treatment resistant depression too. And Tardive dystonia. Can you really get enough of your own serotonin back after many years and fast taper… You’re lucky to have the beaches. I’m from Norway. Hoping for beaches and flip flops again one day… 🏖️ 🙏

Hello everyone! Wow...I can't believe it's been almost 2 years since I posted. I know people often search the forums for information, so I didn't want to just leave this abandoned. I took some time off of tapering because I was dealing with some other health issues and just decided that since I was stable I would finish the taper once I felt up to it. Well, I've been up to it this year. I'm currently completely off the Prozac and down to 15mg of Cymbalta. Things are going well! I will probably make another update once I am off or if I feel that anything of note occurs until then. Cheers!

I think I got to the core of my issues, deep down behind my Sertraline chemical deception and its crazy-making withdrawal, the trauma of my psychiatric criminal and inhumane intervention and the psychiatric indoctrination and brainwashing into its insane sanism, and of course that very traumatizing narcissistic relationship. I was in crisis when my psychiatric intervention happened, but I wasn't insane, I had legitimate objectives and human needs that I desperately needed to met, and I gave everything I had trying to do so and be "moral", "normal", even at the hospital, until exhaustion, until I was too morally hurt to keep searching for the moral support I needed to feel a worthy, valid person and become fully "functional" and productive, overcoming my tyrannical postraumatic moral identity, the cause of my psychosocial "dysfunctionality". I had very intense postraumatic reactions and overwhelming postraumatic and moral feelings and emotions when I was 19-20, I isolated myself to control them and calm down reprocessing my trauma, avoiding my external triggers to do so and keeping my sanity, but my moral identity/superego was too powerful and hijacked me, my mind and my life, my family also made me feel even more guilty and ashamed, immoral, for destabilizing it with my behaviors, and I got sucked into a moral loop, unable to escape it. Then the psychiatric intervention happened, it was my last hope, I thought and felt that I could receive the external emotional validation and moral support that I desperately needed to overcome my postraumatic and moral crisis there if I told my story the right way, that is, that they could make me feel moral and normal if I acted perfectly normal and moral and told my story in a way that made sense. But I was sentenced and deemed as insane by the moment I entered that psychiatric ward. Then I started disconnecting psychologically because of the psychiatric trauma and chemically because of Sertraline, and I forgot everything, my legitimate objectives, true human needs and real life problems, completely tricked by this malignant psychiatric drug. 8 years ago I was desperately trying to feel moral, normal, valid, worthy and safe, to overcome my post-traumatic and tyrannical moral identity, to prove it wrong, but psychiatry gave it even more power by criminalizing me instead of understanding me and helping me overcome it, so without moral support and loosing all the understanding I had over my issues, forgetting everything, taking Sertraline or other psychiatric drugs was the only way I had to control my moral and postraumatic feelings, emotions and reactions and be "functional", specially when I became addicted to Sertraline and unaware of it. The psychiatric intervention was so harmful for me because it criminalized me when I desperately needed moral support and put an end to my postraumatic and moral crisis without helping me to find closure for it, it just forced me to disconnect chemically and psychologically, it suppressed me, that's how I "came out" of my crisis mental and emotional state, drugged and dissociated.

@ArielAriel I am SO GLAD to see you back on here. How are you doing? I have missed you!

I found it, if anyone is interested. The article is in french. https://ici.radio-canada.ca/info/long-format/2050737/antidepresseur-sevrage-arret-medicament-medecin It's a great article. Well researched in my opinion. It's infuriating how Dr Pierre Bleau, Dr Benoit Mulsant and Dre Daphné Rocha Marussi are completely dismissive. For them, we don't exist. I wonder how many of their patients just "relapse" for no reasons?

It's great you can get sun. I'm so sorry you're in such pain. I can't imagine it. Are you able to exercise to the point where you'd get some endorphins? They're the body's own painkillers. But if you're very reactive these days more intense exercise than you're used to might destabilise you, for all I know, so the key is to ease into it. If you haven't already, I'd ask for a referral to a pain clinic and also read up on pain. A few years ago I had nagging, minor chronic pain -- nothing as bad as yours -- and I was looking forward to a possible surgery with a particularly long and painful recovery. Here are the links I started collecting in case I needed them. Pain clinic useful resources https://www.nbt.nhs.uk/our-services/a-z-services/pain-clinic-services/pain-clinic-useful-resources Living with chronic pain https://www.uhbristol.nhs.uk/patients-and-visitors/your-hospitals/other-services-in-bristol/pain-clinic/what-is-pain/living-with-chronic-pain/ Rethinking What Causes Pain: Psychological Treatment Shown To Yield Strong, Lasting Pain Relief https://scitechdaily.com/rethinking-what-causes-pain-psychological-treatment-shown-to-yield-strong-lasting-pain-relief/ Perceived choice in music listening is linked to pain relief https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/08/220803141240.htm Nostalgia relieves pain https://scitechdaily.com/nostalgia-can-relieve-pain-viewing-images-from-childhood-reduces-pain-perception/ An Update on Cognitive Therapy for the Management of Chronic Pain: a Comprehensive Review https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/31292747 Much of the above is about psychological approaches to managing pain. That's not to say the pain isn't real, but we feel pain more intensely when we're psychologically or physically distressed. But when we turn down the sympathetic nervous system (fight or flight system) we reduce pain intensity. That's not as easy as taking a pill but it helps and it's safe.

@Tom2020 Yes I walk a lot so no reason I wouldn't get sun exposure

You don't need to thank me, friend. 🥰 I am happy to support you in any way that I can. You are NOT alone. If I can suggest a few YouTube videos.. Baylissa is amazing and so incredibly knowledgeable. Her videos are calming. Angie Peacock is a badass survivor as well and has great videos. I also love Michael Priebe of the Lovely Grind. You've got this @Dahlia50!!!!! Look at how many days you've gotten through. You are doing amazing! Reach out anytime.