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  1. Hello. I've heard many good things about this site. I'm finding Remeron to be a tricky little devil. I tapered from 7.5 down to 5.0 mg too quick...like 3 weeks! I thought I could sail off it like I did Valium and Trazadone, but not so. I'm taking a break for a week or two so I can stabilize. I generally stabilize rather quickly, but this one took more time. I have friends who are suffering from protracted w/d after decent tapers from Remeron, so I'd like to avoid the same. Has anyone crossed from Remeron to Prozac since the latter has a longer half-life and might be easier to taper from?? I haven't found any equivalency tables, so I'm not sure how to exchange them properly. I'd like to know how to do that. If it's recommended that I taper the Remeron, is there a file where I can find helpful tips to do it safely? Thank you in advance!!!
  2. LLiz's introduction topic is here: ☼-lliz-still-not-able-to-jump-off-mirtazapine An update: Ok, it's hard to say whether I am completely symptom-free yet. I have had several other major and long-lasting health problems this last year which have caused pain, disability, sleep disturbances, and fatigue. One of the harder adjustments has been continuing again with technical learning and studying. But this has been influenced by my trouble believing that I can actually think and remember again after some of the extreme difficulties I had during my withdrawal. The fair amount of interrupted sleep and disability due to my other health issues hasn't helped. And the withdrawal lasted so long that I have needed to do a lot of reviewing to get up to speed again, which seemed like cognitive dysfunction at first to my low-confidence feelings, but wasn't really. One thing is definitely true: I don't think of myself as being in withdrawal anymore. All the best to the many of you who are struggling so much yet!
  3. Hi All, Firstly thanks for the excellent site and taking the time to review my post. History is long, so in the interest of time, 20 yrs on SSRI's (i've tried virtually all but had most luck with prozac and lexapro) with a 4 month bout of Remeron (awful w/d not helped by cross taper) and benzo's on/off for 8 years or so. Benzo: I've successfully switched from .5mg of clonazepam/day to 10mg valium and i'm now at 2mg per day. A bit more about this below. SSRI: Was on 20 mg for celexa for the last several months but completely zombified so decided it's finally time to be done with this sh1t I dropped relatively quickly per docs orders with really no impact down to 5mg celexa completely stopping the celexa and valium on May 1. Started 10 mg prozac only May 1, by May 4 really awful DR with anxiety, inability to focus, sleeplesness, headaches. Reinstated 1-2 mg valium which helped a little bit. Yesterday i tested the waters and dropped the prozac down to 5 mg to see if agitation was from that which resulted in bad anxiety, chills,and shaking. Took the other 5 g prozac and an additional 1mg valium which helped a bit. Today slightly better back at 10mg prozac and 2mg valium in the morning. I have a pdoc appointment tomorrow and really don't know what to do and not sure i trust his opinion frankly but do believe he will be fine with what i recommend. I consider these the following my options: 1.) Reinstate celexa at last dose (5mg?), drop prozac entirely after a week or 2, and keep valium, then micro taper off at 10% per 3 weeks or so. 2.) Hold steady on prozac and valium for awhile (how long?) then micro taper 3.) Something else? Any thoughts are much appreciated and i apologize for any incoherence in this post but just got back from work trip and wanted to get this out there for the educated folks to review asap. Many thanks for any input and your time!!! methuselah
  4. Link to: Santino's success story topic Dear friends. I am right now in a very big of a situation. My second daughter is coming into this world due in two weeks and i am as much as a wreck as evere. I had used xanax for on and off very small doses but after two weeks of continuous 0.25 mg usage it seems i got hooked and started to have a lot of anxiety and panic attack. Before that i have had twice problems but i managed to pass them with personal power and sort of other CBT. This time was a bit harder. I Somehow stabilized at start of April on 6 MG Bromazepam and 20 MG Anmitryptiline. After the stabilization i started tapering and failed the first time. The amount went big again up to 6 MG and after a period of 10 days i developed some kind of depression even though i managed to stay at work. Doctor prescribed Remeron 15 MG and i was a bit reluctant to take but i am in a very difficult position right now as my wife is giving birth to my second kid within two weeks and apart from that i have a loan to pay and could not afford to be off so i agreed with the doc to start it. Psychologicaly in the beginning i felt good because with Remeron help i started to make big jumps on the Benzo (Bromazepam) and within 3 weeks i have gone from 6 MG to 0.75 Mg currently. I am still scared though because i have never been on an antidepressant before and there are horror stories all around web about all types of them as well. This is the fourth week i am taking Remeron and is not helping to much with sleep some nights due to my worry thoughts, some more it has side effects (high cholesterol and triglycerides are a trend in my family, me no exception to that) and i am only 40 Years old. There are days when i really feel very bad and hopeless in this situation but somehow manage to push it forward. I need help whether i am doing the right thing and in case yes after i am done with bromazepam most probably in 3-4 days how long should i wait to start tapering Remeron.... One mor thing friends... i have never been depressed for all of my life. OKKKK... i have had difficult moments or periods here and there... but only mild situations. This time the doctore tried to cure me with the reason of my fears.... and i think she failed miserably. Anyway.... i was scared out of proportion after three weeks of xanax and some drinking sessions and all went berserk. Give me some opinions on what should i do???!! Should i wait some days and try taper fast Remeron??? (i will be on them total 4 weeks this tuesday). Maybe i am one of those persons who by chance do not have withdrawals... All the best and keep it tight.... WE WILL PREVAIL.... 🙂
  5. LLiz's success topic is here: lliz-i-dont-think-of-myself-as-being-in-withdrawal-anymore I am very glad for all the help I have found on this forum! I am now taking a very small dose of mirtazapine--only 0.28 mg, and I still have bothersome side effects (which are always present) in addition to withdrawal symptoms (which diminish with holds). Has anyone else been unable to stop at such a low dose? I have read that some people can never get off. How will I know if this is true for me?
  6. Hi. I Hope someone can help. I have been on 15mg Mirtazapine for 8 months, I started it the end of of September 2017. Stupidly, I went cold turkey for 4 days, didnt like withdrawals (lack of sleep, aches and pains) etc, so I reinstated back to full-dose . After nine days back on 15mg I still had not stabilised. I was improving, but getting dizzy spells, some anger and anxiety. So I reduced my dose to 7.5mg and have been on this dosage for the passed 6 weeks and have been through hellish withdrawals. At present I sleep about 4 or 5 hours and wake with akathisia (anxiety) everyday. This lasts till about 12 midday and then turns to deep depression with some suicidal ideation and general low mood till about 7pm when I start to feel normal again. I did not have this morning anxiety, low mood previous to the drop-in dosage, indeed I have never suffered from anxiety. IS IT TO LATE TO REINSTATE BACK TO 15mg ? as I really can't handle this morning anxiety any more. In summery : 15mg Mirtazapine for 8 months cold turkey 4 days reinstatement 15 mg for 9 days reduced dosage 7.5mg for passed 6 weeks. I must also add that prior to being put on Mirtazapine I was on seroxat (Paxil) for 14 years. It pooped out. My gp cross tapered me from one to the other over 4 weeks. So virtually a cold turkey off the seroxat. After six weeks off the Seroxat I crashed so tried to reinstate that but only lasted 10 days my body just couldn't take it. Whilst the last eight months haven't been great on just 15mg of Mirtazapine due to sensitised CNS from seroxat withdrawal, they were a dam site better than the last 6 weeks. In retrospect I think I should have persevered with the original updosage back to 15mg of Mirt for longer than nine days but I panicked as I thought after only 4 days off I should have stabilised after 2 or 3 In short, after 6 weeks on 7.5mg is it to late to reinstate back to 15mg of Mirt and if I do, how long would it take to stabilise ?. Or should I not rock the boat any further and just stay on 7.5 and hope for things to improve, but symptoms are pretty much unbearable at the moment, I am a complete mess . Please help. Any advice would be much appreciated.
  7. Hello. I had a few panic attacks because I was worried about my headaches. A Neurologist prescribed 15mg mirtazapine for anxiety and headaches. Which I took for two weeks, wasn’t helping much, just made me feel tired, more anxious and had dearealization. Dr. Said it’s okay to stop so I CT’d for 5 days. W/D were rough (shaking, might sweats, insomnia, nausea, lost 8 lbs in 5 days, severe heart palpitations) so I reinstated 15mg for 2 days then 7.5mg for 3 weeks then 3.75mg for 5 days then 1.875 for 1 day then jumped because I was feeling fine. Two days later, full blown W/D suffering bad. I then reinstated to 3.75mg and since then each day has been getting worse with brain issues, can’t think, head fog, scared, paranoid, shaking. Can anyone help me? It has been 2 weeks since I reinstated. Every day seems to be getting worse. I am scared of everything, everything triggers me, I feel as if I am sensitized. It’s hard to write this. 
  8. Hello everyone, my name is Nicholas and I'm a 21 years old guy from Italy. I suffered from chronic insomnia from the age of 15 and in mid-February 2017 was prescribed before bedtime the antidepressant mirtazapine at 15 mg and the antipsychotic olanzapine at 2,5 mg. I took them for 2 weeks without improvement. Therefore the psychiatrist increased mirtazapine at 30 mg and olanzapine at 10 mg. Now I believe that he thought I had bipolar disorder type 1 but I hadn’t any mental illnes. I took olanzapine at 10 mg because I think was only a tranquilizer and because I trusted the doctor. Olanzapine made me sleep for 13 hours but I was no longer myself. After 5 days I tried to split the tablet but it gave me a strange effect. So I continued for others 15 days at 10 mg because I really needed to sleep. Then in April 2017 I tapered olanzapine in 1 week because I could not live anymore like that. I took it for a total of 48 days. After this I reduced mirtazapine to 15 mg and 1 week later I stop cold turkey. At that time I took the benzodiazepine brotizolam at 0,25 mg for 2 weeks to help me sleep. The withdrawal symptoms were terrible for 4 months and I have not been the same anymore. When I was on mirtazapine and olanzapine I had eyelids fasciculation 2 or 3 times per day. When I quitted olanzapine the eyelids fasciculation ceased. 2 weeks after withdrawal from olanzapine and 1 week from mirtazapine I started to have frequently intermittent muscle twitching in the left thigh and occasionaly pulsating muscles in other parts of the body. After less than a couple of months they have decreased in frequency and intensity but didn’t stop completely. During this period I was forced to take the antidepressant sertraline and the benzodiazepine diazepam because for the new psychiatrist I had obsessive compulsive disorder with an obsession for the damage of antipsychotics. I did not have anything like that and could taper and withdraw after 3 months in July 2017. Now I think maybe that the muscles twitching have diminished because diazepam is also a muscle relaxant. In August 2017 I started to have continuous fasciculations in the legs when I lie down and less frequently when I sit while I never had them when I move. Few times a day I had pulsating muscles also in the arms and the trunc but never in the face. I never had muscle twitches in multiple parts of the body at the same time. In September the muscles twitching moved for 1 week in the lower abdominals. In October 2017 for 2 weeks the muscles twitches suddenly stopped in the legs and continued in the rest of the body about 10 times per day. When the muscles twitching returned they were milder. Sometimes the fasciculations are so mild that when I looked at my calf I saw them without feel them. In the legs they have become more single rapid muscular contractions than pulsating muscles. Soon after I started to have continuos pulsating muscle in my upper lip. The muscle twitch was very mild and lasted 2 weeks but after it I have sometimes pulsating muscle also in my face. Do you think it is a tardive dyskinesia caused by olanzapine despite I haven’t involuntary body movements? Do you think it could be some other side effect caused by olanzapine or maybe mirtazapine? It’s 8 months that I’ve it. I have been visited by several psychiatrists and neurologists and everyone said it was just stress. Even if I do not have the symptoms of tardive dyskinesia I do not know what else it could be: I’m not stressed and I do not suffer from anxiety, I do not take stimulants, I can sleep, I have had blood tests and I haven’t electrolyte imbalances or hypoglycemia, I did electromyography and had normal results. The thing that worries me most is that there is a very large amount of medical literature that associates tardive dyskinesia with cognitive impairments. If it were to be tardive dyskinesia do you think that the fact that for almost 2 weeks the muscles twitches had almost disappeared means that I am healing? Thank you and greetings from Italy.
  9. Hi. I used Mirtazapine to withdraw from clonazepam after 1 year. I was on it for a total of 2.5 months. It worked as I successfully tapered off the benzo, however, I am now 22 days into withdrawal and it has been HORRIBLE, improved for a week and now horrible again. Main symptoms are insomnia, depression and anxiety. My dose was 30 mg and then down to 15 mg for 7 days and then off. What a roller coaster, after getting off clonazepam but one night I will sleep 5 hrs, the next 0, the next 9 and than 2 hrs etc. The symptoms wax and wane with some windows but the windows have been closed since day 19. Any experience with this medicine and its withdrawals are very much appreciated, I don't want to reinstate but the symptoms are horrendous. BTW, the withdrawal started on Day 5 as reported by other members. Will this get better? Bayboy
  10. Hi, I am new here and recently finished a Valium taper. I was also on a low dose of Remeron which I started a little less than a year ago. Last week we went camping and I forgot to take my Remeron for two nights. I thought because I felt ok maybe I didn’t need it anymore...fast forward to the last week and it’s horrible! I am soooo sick. Headaches, dizziness, nausea, stomach issues, hot flashes. I am willing to reinstate to not feel sick and try a taper once stabilized. I am confused on how to do that as I take 1.875 mgs and the pill already falls apart. Also, how do I reinstate and could it help? Im not sure I did everything right on my intro and signature page??? Thank you— Rach
  11. Mialiliana1

    Mialiliana: Remeron

    Hi I'm new here currently tapering kolonopin and was wondering if anyone her has ever came off remeron doing a micro taper? Thank you
  12. Hi I am a new member to this site and boy what an eye opener it is. My history is a long battle with anxiety that came out of the blue 15 years ago, no rhyme nor reason as to why My Dr started me on Zoloft 50mg, 2 days in was a total mess, highly agitated, tremors anxiety waves one after the other, a manic episode had me taken into the ED by my husband, Dr's explanation oh yes symptoms will be worse for a few weeks, here's some Vallium take it when needed and ride it out. Tough 3 weeks. Settled eventually and took it for 2 years, tapered off and felt great. 2010 the anxiety raised its ugly head once again, not keen on trying the Zoloft route again, was prescribed Mirtazapine 15mg, brilliant no side effects from day one, slept like a baby at night, all good apart from the weight gain. 4 days ago visit to GP, anxiety was getting in high levels again, prescribed Escitalopram 5 mg with the Mirt for 2 weeks, with the assurance that being on such a low dose there should not be any of the symptoms I have experienced before, then move onto 10mg. Well 6 hours after taking the first 5mg, high anxiety, agitation, palpatations, Xanax and the Mirt got me to sleep. Next day double high anxiety, increased agitation, palpatations, bad shaking all over, fever and generally felt like crap, ED visit, BP 194/147, irregular pulse, high temp etc etc. ECG to rule out Heart attack, Vallium administered, 10mg didn't really help a great deal, but got some sleep. Next day flushed the Escitalopram down the loo, and again spent majority of the day with the above symptoms, No more of this for me. Happy with the Mirt for the time being, but think I need to get rid of that also, and delve more deeply into yoga and meditation techniques for the anxiety
  13. I need help and support I have been on Remeron 22.5 mg for about 23 days and. I ask my doctor I wanted off because it's making me more depress I got on meds becouse of my panic attacks I have been changing meds and I just don't like how they have e made me feel he said to taper over I week 4days on 15mg and 4 last days on 7.5 mg so this Thursday will be my last day will I be okay what to expect am scared
  14. Inner trembling,panic,fear, Compelling urge to end my life, How long will this brutal torture last? Another benzo or the knife? Incentive orientated,how they plot To fill the medicine spoon, And Drs.Frankenstein and Shrink Dance to their masters' tune. 1991 - 2011 Lithium carbonate 400mg daily Developed underactive thyroid gland 100 mg Levothyroxine daily Tapered off Lithium in three weeks, no withdrawal syndrome 2014 - nervous breakdown - 900 mgs Depakote, 5mg Olanzapine daily 2015 - reduced to 250mg Depakote - nausea, diarrheoa, insomnia, 15 mg Mirtazapine added for depression 2016 - stopped Depakote cold turkey,hadn't heard of tapering Lamotragine 16mg daily for one month couldn't tolerate 2017 - 7.5mg Mirtazipine - now 3.75mg nightly,still going through hell.
  15. My name is Jim. I’m from pgh. I’ve been on some type of ssri for the most part of the past 13 years for anxiety and depression. I’ve also self medicated with drugs and alcohl for most of that time too. I’ve been clean from the drugs and alcohol for over two years now. And during those two years I’ve been prescribed 300mg Wellbutrin, 30 mg remeron and 100 mg Zoloft. Due to side effects and feeling like I was stable, I decided to wean off the Zoloft about 6 months ago. I did about a 3 month Zoloft taper, ending with about 3 weeks of 10 mg prozac per day.(at every dose reduction, I always felt very good/stable). Over the 4 months since my last dose, my condition went from good to unbearable. The past two weeks have been constant dread, and physical anxiety symptoms. Like all day long chest thumping and headaches from non stop worrying and depression. Two days ago, I gave in and started back on 20 mg prozac. Please help! i don’t want to be on this med anymore. Could this be withdrawal after 4 months of being ssri free? Or is my brain totally and permanently dependent on these pills? I’m all alone on this. Nobody understands what I’m going through, not even my doc. I could go on and on. Sorry for the life story. Any experience, strength, or hope would be greatly appreciated.
  16. Mod note Moved from http://survivingantidepressants.org/topic/5930-helpless-15-mg-mirtazapine/ Hi helpless. I also had worse experience with mirtazipine and wish I never took it. Been on countless meds over a 10 year period. Had bad experiences before and scary side effects but never lost who I was or my memories experiences etc. Mirtazipine did just that and I too have had overwhelmingly strong feeling of ending everything because I just don't feel myself anymore and not sure how long this is gona last. I don't take it anymore has been almost 2 months without it and still everything I have ever done or loved enjoyed experienced just feels like it was a blur and completely lost who I am and can't believe there is something so damaging out there that doctors gave me at first it was calming I slept well for first few days (before taking mirt I was on desvenlafaxine and felt too hyped up all the time like I was on speed) doctor suggested this and like I said at first it was fine then started to feel disconnected and disoriented, I didn't feel connected to my friends anymore had no interest in talking to anyone or doing anything at all then the tachycardia started, always as I was getting into deep sleep my heart would have scary bolts which caused my to jump out of bed and felt pain in my heart also, this went on for too long and started getting worse, doctor looked at me like a idiot and tried saying it couldn't do that, and then changed his mind said it can cause irregular heart rhythmia, but it got worse. I then reduced to 15mg and felt abit better at first but then started up again I was scared to go to sleep or even relax, I told doctor I refuse to go through this again as seroqual had given me similar symptons in the past and he suggested weening off the mirtazipine. Thats when I just lost everything I feel disconnected from life don't want to be around anymore I've never experienced this I don't have any sense of myself anymore my confidence is depleted I can barely walk into a shop anymore, I feel like its too late for me I cant even see anything changing yet I'm not on them anymore. I miss who I used to be. Would do anything to go back and never go down this path trusting my gp, he never even said a word about possible side effects. More I looked into mirtazipine found out they dont even know how it works but it is classed as atypical hallucegine ( why the f....ck would doctors give this to someone) I don't have any faith in professionals anymore they have ruined my life and my future. Found a better doctor that tried suggesting 25mg of seroqual and 50mg fluvoxatimine, I thought yes...I might actually be able to get past this, half hour after taking them I felt the heavy breathing and went into full on constant anxiety attack that lasted hours I thought it must just be a one off incident taking both at same time (as directed by stupid doctor) next day I tried taking fluvox first then seroqual it just got worst lasted longer and days I can't take antidepressants or antiphyscotics anymore I have a terrifying feeling from them now and I refuse to be on something so damaging. I'm left with constant anxiety and depression now which is unbareable, I feel like I'm gona stop breathing at times and sleeping has become fearful as I live on my own and worried I won't wake up. Only thing iv been able to do is take 5mg (half a tablet) of diazapam to calm me down a bit. Still everyday since mirtazipine wake up in tears and feel like I don't belong around anymore. What kind of sick people could create something like this and stupid doctors who say its safe how could this even still be aloud. Do not ever take mirtazipine it should be banned and removed the company who created it shoulld be held responsible.
  17. Ccnt80

    Kimberly''s Intro

    Dx: Bipolar, depression, anxiety, PTSD, treatment resistant insomnia, CFS, Fibro, chronic pain Current meds as of Dec. 2017: Lamictal 200mg bid Omeprazole 200 mg bid Motrin 800mg qam Iron 65mg qam Despiramine 125mg qhs Seroquel 300mg qhs Remeron 30 mg qhs Clonopin 0.5 mg up to 5 tabs a day as needed (can take up to 3 pills at one time) *** I very faithfully take my med as prescribed. Supplements when I remember to take them: magnesium, iodine, zinc, probiotic I attempted to drop Seroquel down to 250mg for a couple weeks and was VERY irritability and awful feeling, so I ended up moving it back to 300mg. I had also recently dropped the Clonopin down from 5 tablets to 4 tablets a day. I worry about being on Seroquel cause diabetes runs in my family. As of now, my HGa1C shows a decreased risk for diabetes. I am about 70 pounds over weight. I have lost 50 pounds since May 1. My main issue is massive insomnia. That is the main reason for the poly pharmacy. I've been dx bipolar since 2005 (I am 37), but on anti-depressants since 2002. Due to my lack of knowledge and horrid docs, was on up to 10 psych meds at a time prior to 2009. Two 3 year periods in my 20s only slept 10 hours a week, even tho I was medicated so heavily I could barely move. I was so exhausted and wrung out I wanted to die. I'm on the seroquel, remeron, and desipramine mainly for sleep but they also help mood. I average 4-6 hours sleep, but it takes me 12 hours to get it. I wake up every 45-60 minutes. So don't typically feel rested. If I nap during the day, my sleep at night is no worse. If I don't take clone pin during the day to nap, I get very irritable and overwhelmed filling. Sensory overload. I've been off work for 2.5 years this time around, for mood issues and pain issues.
  18. I have been off mirtazapine after a slow taper for five weeks. I am doing okay except I have a few days of bad symptoms. The past week I have been drinking a lot of milk, trying to increase my calcium. Yesterday I woke up and was having constant adrenalin all day. I only slept an hour last night. I was so frightened by the feeling of wanting to crawl out of my skin and burning up from heat that I broke down and took a piece of pill as tiny as the head of a pin. Finally I was able to calm down enough to sleep. The surges are still there but are much better today. My question is, could the extra calcium cause a surge in my withdrawal symptoms? I don't want to go back on this stuff again. It has given me fatty liver. I don't even drink. Just in case I have stopped with ththe extra calcium for now. Or is this just the way of the withdrawal?
  19. Peace and best wishes to all - I've been lurking on SA for about 10 weeks and have found the resources on SA to be a huge help. Thank you for this wonderful website! I'm finding Mirtazapine to be incredibly difficult to taper, much more difficult to taper than the benzo which I've been tapering. Because I've been taking mirtazapine for insomnia I therefore judge my success in a dosage decrease by how much sleep I get, and I'm not having any luck getting any sleep below 28.5 mg. Is this because mirtazapine has a short half-life? I've read to not decrease the dosage by more than 5% - 10% per month, and I've gradually been decreasing my dosage to these levels. I understand that this suggestion is a guideline, yet a good benchmark coming from others who have experienced AD tapers themselves. Any suggestions as to how I can successfully decrease the dosage past the 28.5 mg level? Thank you in advance for any and all suggestions.
  20. Trying to come off 15mg mirtazapine. Cannot get a liquid form, and the pill is so small, how do you cut it? Thanks. I have been on it about 7-8 months.
  21. I'm very angry and very scared about the withdrawal I am having from Remeron. I have been taking this drug for 18 years! When I started, I was told that when I was ready to come off of it all I needed to do was take one pill every other day for two weeks, and then stop. I have tried to discontinue this a handful of times without any success. This time I am determined to be done with this. It does not help me and I don't want to take prescription medication that is unnecessary. I feel that that is not in the best interest of my health. I began tapering in early August . I got down to 7.5 mg every other day for a month and then stopped. By day four, the nausea set in. By day eight I was absolutely miserably sick nonfunctional. It was horrific!I had nausea headache , Brain fog, trembling muscle pain from being so tense. It hurt just to have someone touch me. I took 7.5 mg that night. Nothing the next night. Then 3.25 mg the next night. Nothing the following night. I am still having withdrawal symptoms mostly flu like symptoms diarrhea and trembling. I have brain fog as well I feel like I am an idiot LOL. I was never told that this medication caused severe withdrawal. I'm scared and I'm angry and I want to be done with this. Has anyone come off of Remeron long term and had their withdrawal symptoms go away? And how long do I have to be sick as a dog?
  22. I've been taking Remeron PRN for the past 2 years to help me sleep, very small doses, half a 7.5mb pill. Just enough to help me sleep. Probably once a week at most, except when travelling. Well a couple weeks ago I took it 4 days in a row when travelling, and then over the past few weeks noticed restless legs. The research online seems to say it can 1) cause RLS, 2) withdrawal can cause RLS, 3) it can help RLS. But evidence for each of these scenarios in actual research tests have been very limited so they aren't sure. So just curious if anyone else had this happen? When I take it now, it seems to help RLS immediately that night, but then flare up the night after. Is it even possible to have withdrawal from such a small infrequent doses? I've heard Remeron withdrawal is crazy, even worse than benzos which I came off of 2 years ago and that was horrible, so really hesitant to normalize taking it, but can't deny it help my mood and sleep, though I've already noticed a slight tolerance, I don't get as much sleep as I used to when I just started it.
  23. Dianaberg

    Dianaberg

    Hi Hibari, it was suggested I join this group to chat with you regarding remeron and lamictal withdrawal! I went off of Remeron seven weeks ago and have been on it for six years. I've also been on the lamictal for six years. Because I'm in menopause and my mood is so bad, I was talked into putting on an estrogen patch. I believe now that it decreased my Lamictal by half. What I was thinking was Remeron withdrawal, is now I realize is Lamictal withdrawal. Very very disoriented, confused, could not put a sentence together, my eyes were not tracking, and going through serious crying issues, suicidal, and could not get out of bed because the fatigue was horrible. I also got a mini stroke from the estrogen patch so I've had it off for four weeks. So it's been four weeks where my brain is trying to figure out what is what. I've had serious brain issues in the past to do an illness so my brain is completely sensitive. I don't know if I'm on too much Lamictal now-bring that I dint gave mirtazapine to mask it-or too little- but I'm scared to ever go off or tamper with this drug again. The headaches and nausea and brain fog and disorientation and confusion and not being able to put a sentence together his mind blowing. Waking up with hot flashes and anxiety and feel hungover. Thought you'd be good to chat with!!! Thx!
  24. Hey everyone, 46 year old single woman here with a history of anxiety and recently some intrusive thoughts & depression because of the anxiety/intrusive thougths. Have been on Remeron, Lexapro and Klonopin since 8/2015, my signature has the complete history and details. Anyway, I am currently trying to taper off 15mg of Remeron mainly due to weight gain and feeling better, but am having a pretty hard time. My psychiatrist originally told me to go down to 7.5 for 2 weeks, then 0 but I knew that would be too fast. I tried to drop by a quarter pill and was ok the first week just a little sadness. The 2nd week got headaches, trouble sleeping, worse mood, fatigue, achiness, a little nausea. At this point I started looking online for other peoples stories and found this site among others. I found information on one site on how to mix Mirt. into a liquid, and started dropping by 1mg a week, currently starting my 4th week and am at 12mg. But honestly I feel like crap. Depression is probably a 6-7 out of 10, having trouble sleeping and that really affects my mood, very low energy, hard to concentrate, some headaches and body aches, intense dreams/nightmares, feel very unmotivated and getting more intrusive thoughts (which I have dealt with for 2 years now). Ironically my anxiety is better! I thought I was going at a slow enough taper, maybe I'm wrong or maybe I wasn't ready. Not sure, just want to feel better though. I really want off the mirt because of weight gain (45 pounds!) and was feeling better, at least before I started taper. I see my psych next week and will talk to him. Just thought I would ask you guys for some advice since you've been there or are currently in the middle of a taper. Any thoughts about what could help me, should I go slower? I think sleep is the main thing that wrecks my mood and gives way to a lot of the other issues. Any tips or kind words would be greatly appreciated! Jade
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