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  1. Hello, this is zamwessell, and I am new to the forum as of this afternoon. I'd like to give a bit of background, and ask for some advice. Back in mid-July 2015, I had a bout of anxiety and insomnia due to worrying about the beginning of a new relationship. I initially asked for some help for this, and my doc prescribed Wellbutrin, but after 5 days of being numb, I stopped it. Then asked for something different and was prescribed Ambien 5 mg. Was on that for 16 days, but it was not working to get me to sleep, so I ended up at a Psych ER at the local university hospital. They suggested Remeron, so I went on that at 7.5 mg to begin with. That combination was still not working, and I ended up in the hospital for 5 days, where they took me off Ambien and put me on Ativan. I'm sorry to say, I don't remember the exact dosage, but I believe it was 1 mg in am and 1 mg in pm. I was able to taper off of that beginning October of 2015, after switching to Valium. Over the course of a couple of months, I reached the final dose of Remeron that my doc and I agreed on: 30 mg. I was on that, doing well, until mid-September of last year, when we decided things were stable enough in my life that I could start tapering off that. Not knowing any better, we agreed on a taper schedule: 3 weeks each at 22.5 mg, 15 mg, 7.5 mg, and 3.75 mg (if I felt I needed to - I did, but probably only stayed at that dosage for a week). Only a week later, I began having pretty bad insomnia, coming in waves, with a few good nights and plenty of bad ones. I also noticed I was very cold, then would get very hot while trying to get to sleep. I also had muscle jerks, just as I was beginning to fall asleep, which would keep me from being able to fall asleep - a vicious cycle. This all continued for 7 weeks, until I couldn't take it any more and contacted my doc. She suggested going back on at a low dose to try to reinstate. I reluctantly agreed and that went well for about 7 nights. Then on nights 8 and 9, I noticed it took me longer to get to sleep, and by night 10 at 7.5, I didn't get any sleep at all. That was a Friday night. I contacted the on-call psychiatrist at the university's psych department, which was my only option on the weekend, and they said going up to 15 mg was fine, so that's what I did. I so wish I had seen this forum prior to trying to reinstate. I definitely would have suggested starting only at 3.75 mg, but, alas, that didn't happen. Not knowing any better, I was under the impression that going back up, maybe even to where I was prior to starting the taper, was what I should do. So, now I've been on the 15 mg for 6 nights. It takes me a couple of hours to get to sleep (I've been taking the dose about 10 pm), and have experienced the brain zaps others have talked about, as well as the muscle jerks just as I'm falling asleep, though to a slightly lesser intensity than when I was in withdrawal. I wake up numerous times, and realize I've been dreaming, so I just try and say to myself that you did get to sleep at some point, so try to get back to sleep. I have been able to get back to sleep, and have probably averaged 4-5 hours these past 6 nights. Last night was worse than the night before, however. My questions are numerous, but I guess the main ones are: have others experienced this scenario, have I gone too high in going up to 15 mg, and what are some recommendations? I know that you all are not doctors, but I'm willing to consider experiences in what others have gone through.
  2. Hi, I am currently trying to taper off Mirtazapine but about 48 hours after last dose I am getting a high pitched noise/tinnitus at back of head and left ear. Has anyone else had the same and how long did it last for? Many thanks
  3. Hi Guys, I'm new to putting myself on this site. I've been browsing on here and there for a while but time to put my stuff out there and get some help. I'm in a fairly desperate panicky place right now and feeling a bit paralysed as to what to do. I experienced protracted withdrawal in 2013 being moved up to a high dose of 180mg Venlofaxine then told to withdraw too quick it was a beyond hideous time. Psych quickly put me on Sertraline where my mood plummeted and sleep suffered so she declared me 'treatment resistant' and prescribed 30 mg Remeron. The second I was on this drug it felt wrong - slowed thinking, sedation, intense dry mouth, food cravings, felt emotionally numb, gained weight - horrid!! I knew I could not spend rest of my life on this so began a slow taper immediately and got down to 10mg by end of 2014 without too much hassle. Nice to be able to think a bit more clearly!! So 2015 was the year I would continue to do this. I dipped in and out of SA to check I had the right concepts. My doctors didn't understand my need to do it slowly - so did it myself as follows: Jan 2015 - 10mg 2 Feb - 9mg 17Feb- 8mg 3 March - 7mg 17 March - 6.5mg 23March - 6mg 7 April - 5.5mg 21April - 5mg May 5 - 4.5mg June 29 - 4mg July 13 - 3.5mg Aug 10 - 3.2mg Oct 14 - 3.1mg Oct 26 - 3.0 Nov 1 - 0mg!!! This wasn't planned! As you can see I tried to follow 10% taper or less and realised I had to go super slow after 4mg. Unfortunately the last few days of October I experienced a very confusing time. I was overwhelmed by a person in my life, I was so confused I forgot to take the meds for 3 nights and experienced - no sleep, racing thoughts a mania type psychosis. It was a terrible confusing time which I felt was precipitated by unwittingly going off Remeron by accident. I went into hospital for a few days. Thankfully staff were so lovely and supportive and didn't push more medication on me. They would not give me the Remeron as they said 3mg was such a small dose hardly worth being on. I panicked at this at first but then things seemed ok for a few weeks - good mood, clear thinking, sense of humour back etc... With the help of a community mental health nurse we thought we'd monitor it over a few months and see how it goes. I'm at week 10 off Remeron and things feel like they are going downhill fast now. I'm experiencing: Intense dry mouth Insomnia (7.5mg zopiclone taken nightly) Anxiety increasing especially at night Crying spells where I hit the wall Intense vice like headaches / light sensitivity Nausea Food sensitivity This is tough guys!! Im living moment to moment and feeling desperate. I'm a little paralysed as to what to do. My GP recommended going back on a small dose of Remeron. What do you suggest? A new psychiatrist (I've seen and don't have much respect for/nor do I wish to see her again ) said NO don't go back on the Remeron given the psychosis I experienced stopping abruptly. I'm feeling terribly vulnerable and don't know who to believe! I can't go on much more with these sweeping vice-like headaches. I'm very very scared I'm heading down the path of protracted withdrawal syndrome. Please any advice would be more than appreciated. If you think reinstating what sort of dose given my history to start on and for how long? My GP just said a low dose. Thanks a million for support Bex
  4. Hello I never had any anxiety issues. I had a sinus surgery in 2006 and after 1 year I started feeling heaviness in my head. I got all the medical test and everything came out perfectly normal. It was 2011 when this heaviness started to effect my sleep. Though the situation was not severe but I am very cautious about my health. So I went to a neurologist he gave me some anti depressants. I was unaware about these medications. I was changing the city and my doctor said it to take it for 2 years. I successfully tapered 2 medicines and the last one was escitalopram 10mg. Reduced the dose to 2.5mg without any withdrawal. But after tapering off, my life changed completely. Coudn't sleep for 1 month which affected my work and increased my anxiety. Tried some sleeping pills(Zolfresh) but nothing helped. Then I realized I was taking antidepressant and that could be the reason behind it. I went to a psychiatrist in may 2015 and she prescribed remeron(7.5mg), escitalopram 10mg, klonopin(0.5 mg). Started sleeping from day 1 and I started doing great in life. In 2016 I successfully tapered off escitalopram 10mg & klonopin(0.5 mg). After 4 months on 18 Jan 2017 I reduced my remeron from 7.5 to 3.75 and sleep distubances started.from 26 Jan. My doctor increased the dosage from 3.5 to 11 mg. It didn't help. Yesterday I took 15 mg pill and I slept. I have a nice job but I am unable to focus on my work. I am in India and I have received an admit from 2 universities in USA. Course is starting in August 2017. I prepared very hard for the entrance exam last year and don't want to miss the opportunity to study there. I have 2 queries 1) Shall I stay in India and give up on my dreams of studying from a reputed USA university? Yoga is very popular here and I have heard that it is very effective in treating depression. 2) Shall I accept the admit and go to USA? I know I may get well in next 2 weeks but I am scared that my insomnia and depression can return in USA when I ll start tapering again? PS - Doctors screwed my life. Surgery was not required in 2006 and anti depressants were not required in 2012
  5. Help. I was on benzo for 15 years. Did a detox at a clinic 6 mos ago. In the last three months I took mertazapine to sleep. I had no idea!!! Then I decided the side effects were terrible I am confused by the taper idea and exactlyhow to safely reinstate. On metazapen 15 mg for 3 mos. Went to 7.5 for three days. No sleep. Went on 15 mg. Felt like crap. Still decided to cut to 11.25 mgs. 14 days. quit. Six days, last of which, no sleep. Terrible!! ER. My doctor told me I needed it and to go back on 15mg. I did and slept last night. Woke up feeling very drugged and had anxiety attacks. Went on the web and found this site. Read about reinstating at a smaller dose then I came off of. Did 3.75 to see if I felt better. I think I do. But tonight is coming and I don't want to take anymore today if it will mess up any future. I thought I could slowly taper from here. Or do I up the dose and taper from that?? Help!! I am confused about how this works.
  6. Hello, I am currently experiencing significant PTSD after a very traumatic life event. I started 12.5 mg trazedone 1 week ago. It allowed sleep - I thought I could take it as needed but I am wrong. I also tried 3.75 mg Remeron which I was on several years ago. Anyway, I feel so agitated in the morning after spotty sleep. Is it too late to do a quick taper. I've read about the mcpp metabolite and am scared to make things worse. I am barely staying out of our local stress center. Should I switch over to the Remeron, get stable then taper off of that or stay on the 12.5 mg trazedone. Four weeks ago I was completely stable and drug free and then the PTSD hit. Please help!
  7. So my psychiatrist has finally allowed me to start tapering off of my remeron that I've been on for 1yr and 4months. She proposed a 2month plan regarding taking half my 30mg dose for a month, then cutting that down to 7.25mg for 2-4 or so, then stopping completely. I feel like that's too fast. Also, I have a pill splitter, but it is cheap and wouldn't get the job done if I would do the 10% reduction method. I could take half of the 15mg tablet and add that onto my other 15mg tablet for 22.25mg to start off with instead. I dunno. I don't want this to take forever, and I really have no idea how to get an exact reduction rate of 10% with this pill splitter I have. I'll be withdrawing soon. Any advice?
  8. Hello all-I was given alprazolam in 2008 to quit smoking of all things. I reached tolerance in dec 2014 and was diagnosed as depressed and put on 45mg remeron and 40 mg celexa. I started to taper the alprazolam in 2015 and jumped off in december 2016. the depression has been brutal but I am determined to get off all these drugs. I will probably just dry cut the remeron and when I am done, I will liquid titrate the celexa. Any help and/or encouragement will be humbly appreciated.
  9. Hi all, I saw an acupuncturist for the first time yesterday, and she prescribed me some chinese herbs and told me to stop taking all my other medication including vitamins. I was surprised she told me to do this so quickly - I guess I was expecting she would treat me for a while before considering going off the meds. It also seems potentially unwise since usually you taper off of these things (I am only on 15mg of remeron so it wouldn't be much a taper, but she didn't actually ask me my dosage). She told me that I won't need the remeron anymore because I will have the chinese medicine and that it is not required to taper for my medication. I've been curious to try alternative treatment for a while, so part of me wants to give it a real shot and do everything she recommends, but I'm also nervous this is unwise. I'm not suicidal, so maybe there isn't that much to lose (being depressed is really painful, but I have always been functionally depressed so I'm not so much worried about external consequences). Has anyone else had experience with acupuncture/TCM and discontinuing meds?
  10. flatrock

    flatrock: My Journey

    Hi. My story is a bit complicated, sorry. Much of it is about Klonopin, but my main problems currently seem to be a result of Remeron (Mirtzapine) and a drastic forced reduction of the Klonopin 4 months ago. I apologize if this is the wrong place to discuss Klonopin (chlonazepam). I'm 62. My overall diagnosis for the past 7 yrs is Fibromyalgia. I took 1.0 g Klonopin every night for several years for RLS, and it didn't seem to hurt me in any way. Occasionally my dr increased that dosage, as it is addictive - but I kept insisting on tapering down again. Sometimes I went down to .5 per night. I was very consistent until the past year when many stresses caused huge anxiety and during those times my dr allowed me to take Klonopin as needed. Anyway, I moved to a new area to be near my grandchildren 5 months ago. It triggered extreme anxiety and depression. I went to a new doctor who started me (4 months ago) wham-bam on Cymbalta and Remeron and Tizanadine (a muscle relaxant) (despite my telling him that my old dr had prescribed it for only occasional use for muscle cramps). At the time I was taking Klonopin (1.0) several times per day (6-8 per day) for the anxiety, as approved by my previous doctor. New dr insisted I immediately reduce to 3.0 mg per day. I suffered terribly from the quick reduction of the Klonopin. Jittery, shaky, anxious. That was 4 months ago... still haven't recovered. He started me on 15 mg Remeron, then after one week up to 30mg. Although I liked the emotional effect Remeron gave me, I struggled terribly with crazy restless legs. I hear a certain number of patients get this side effect. It was bad, lasted sometimes a couple of hours. But then some nights I did not have it at all. I began to call it Russian Roullette RLS. To combat this RLS side effect, new dr approved of taking all of my 3 allotted Klonopin at night. I then slept great. BTW, I begged the dr to take me off of the Tizanadine, as it seemed to be causing extra anxiety, so he finally did. I'm back to using that only occasionally. I've been on Cymbalta in the past and feel it is a good medicine for me. However, I suspect that the Klonopin mixed with Remeron caused problems. Or it's just the Remeron, I don't know. But the scariest thing going on for me is an "action tremor." When I am still, you can't see any shaking. But when I use my muscles in any way, I can feel the tremor, and there are certain moves I can do to show others the tremors. Also my heart rate tends to be quite fast - up to 100/minute. I never had that before. But today I meditated and it went down to 72. And my overall shakiness makes me scared and confused... I'm at that age when it could be something serious, but I'm trying to wait it out. My new dr kept saying it must be caused by the Remeron. I've been off of it for a week, and I'm hoping he's right. I'm seeing a psychiatrist now, since my new dr did not want to prescribe the mood medications. A week ago he prescribed my 1.0 Klonopin to be taken - a total of 1.0 - at a steady pace, .25 morning, .25 afternoon, .25 bedtime, .25 middle of night. He thought that perhaps I'm experiencing "withdrawal" during the day by only taking the Klonopin at night, which was a pretty good idea, but it is not making a difference. To further complicate my life, 2 months ago I was diagnosed as prediabetic, so my diet has also changed drastically. I'm not overweight and diabetes does not run in my family... I think I just had a bad year and ate/drank too much sugar. My mom was sick for that year and then died, I had a 4-month anxiety reaction to a normal dose of prednisone, and I moved. Some pretty big stuff. This was really long. Anybody who reads through it - thank you for listening.
  11. Hi, I'm curious if any of the men who are withdrawing experience hot flashes and sweating. I have mainly chalked them up to menopausal symptoms that have been intensified by wd I know there is temperature dis-regulation during withdrawal but was curious if the sweating and hot flashes were symptoms for men as well. And when they occur, am or pm? I know some of this will sort itself out when I am finally of my meds but any feedback would be great. Thanks.
  12. Hi, Following a rapid (lesson learned) taper from Mirtazapine approx 5 months ago, I have been suffering from persistent Akathisia. This has been by far the most horrendous and distressing of a long line of side effects. It appeared 5 weeks after coming off meds and appeared to subside and become less intense, thus some quality of life returned. Over the last couple of weeks it has intensified and I am once again in its awful grip, constantly pacing, crying, feeling agitated with a return of those terrible feelings of grief and despair. I have seen three different doctors, none of whom have ever heard of Akathisia, so I have had to do my own research (thank heavens for forums like this one). I have managed to get an appointment with a neuropsychiatrist in a couple of weeks, so really hoping to at least have a conversation with someone who actually understands what this is! The downside of doing your own research is that I have been left feeling scared to death about the various stories of different types of Akathisia (acute, chronic, withdrawal and tardive) and whether it is likely to resolve. I'm hoping fellow sufferers out there can offer some support and share their knowledge and experiences with me, as there doesn't seem to be that many treatments available for withdrawal Akathisia. I am currently not taking any meds for this (tried Propranalol but it gave me heartburn). I've also been prescribed benzodiazapines for agitation but I'm now so reluctant to take any meds that may aggravate or prolong this side effect. I am also reluctant to take anything that will lead to a further withdrawal process in the future. On the plus side, all other withdrawal symptoms have gradually faded away (high anxiety, extreme claustrophobia, panic attacks, hot flashes, stomach upsets and insomnia). Thank you for your support
  13. Hi everyone and thanks for operating this great site. I found it by googling "How to survive antidepressants" -- sardonic LOL I am so angry about these drugs after reading _Anatomy of an Epidemic_ and then reading some people's stories on here. I feel like I dodged a bullet because I hadn't been on meds for that long when I came across that book. I feel sheepish asking for help when a lot of people are so bravely facing getting off of multiple psych meds and I am just dealing with one or two and at low doses. Nevertheless here's my story…I'm a 36 year old woman who has been struggling with health anxiety/hypochondria. There's a lot of anxiety in my family and a lot of history of benzo use among parents, grandparents etc. I haven't seen great things happen with psych meds and I resisted for a long time but I finally got desperate 5 months ago and accepted my PCP's repeated offers of Paxil. Paxil was a nightmare with ever increasing heart palpitations and other side effects too. (Oh, and it didn't help) I was just taking 10 mg, I quit that almost cold turkey and was unbelievably wretched with anxiety for a while. Then I took 30 mg Zoloft for a month or two and had such bad headaches that the ENT sent me for a brain MRI; he was adamant that it wasn't the Zoloft. I am very thankful that my brain was fine; and I still think it was the Zoloft. I also had a lot of other side effects. Then I started seeing an actual psychiatrist and she had me start Remeron/mirtazapine; severe insomnia has been a big part of my problem with anxiety and Remeron at least made me sleep so that may have helped. I did feel a little better after I'd been on Remeron for a while but I was gaining half a pound a day with no sign of slowing, and I couldn't remember things well. I normally have a great memory and the weight gain really bothered me because exercise is the only thing that actually helps me and I felt like the rapid weight gain was setting me up for injury and being sidelined from jogging. I had gotten up to 22.5 mg of Remeron because I didn't sleep well with 15 mg--also I think I may have taken 30 mg a few times but I don't really remember Anyway I spent another week at 22.5, a week at 15, and then a week at 7.5. I sleep really well taking 7.5 (it's a weird drug, the side effects are higher at lower doses--? and sleeping well is a side effect; so is extreme appetite stimulation) Now I have been at 7.5 every other day for 2 plus weeks. I've tried twice to take 2 days off between doses, and the first time I had a killer headache and the second time I was insanely anxious. Having a lot of minor headaches and pretty high anxiety whether it's the day after I've taken it or the day after I haven't taken it--just unpredictable. The psychiatrist prescribed me Trazodone to take instead of Remeron and I have taken it maybe 5 times on the nights I'm not taking Remeron--but I just realized it is also an SSRI. Is it then counter-productive to take it? Should I just push through the insomnia and hope that eventually I'll start sleeping better? I typically fall asleep easily but wake up after 4 hours and am done sleeping for the night. On the nights I haven't taken either Remeron or Trazodone I've taken a Dramamine (Dimenhydrinate) at 3 when I wake up to go back to sleep but I don't want to be mixing and matching drugs in my system like that I'm seeing the info about tapering by 10% so I should probably go get a pill cutter from the drugstore. I have no idea whether I'll sleep or not if I take 3.25 mg of Remeron. The search bar wasn't showing up for me before I became a member so I can use that now to try and get more info but I would really appreciate any advice anyone has to share when you read this, whether about getting off meds or about the anxiety itself! I've tried CBT, hypnotherapy, and self-help books like _When Panic Attacks_ and each thing may have a helped a little bit…but I'm essentially still in the same place I fear. Thanks SO Much for your time!!!
  14. Used Remeron for a couple of months, and was weirdly content at all times, but also zombie/lethargic/sedated, and it increases my adhd symptoms/stops mt adhd meds from working. Meh, ill write more later. Been lurking on this forum after my first taper attemt was to impatiemt, and backfired after 2-3 weeks. Got a sore throat todat, and feeling a bit sick, not sure if it is from tapering or if I'm actually getting a cold. Feel sick from time to time, that is probably due to cutting Remeron from 7,5 mg to half of that. Was on 7,5 (from 15) for 3 or 4 weeks, and it was fine, except that I was still umable to get anything done. A lot of my meds history indicates that I'm a poor metaboliser, and when I read that the antihistamine effect was full even on small doses og Remeron, I dropped to the last dose of 3.75. A little trouble with sleeping, but melatonin helps. Eating got better after adhd meds was increased, cuz now head works better. Im not spaced out. Basically a nuber of symptoms coyld either ve tapering symptoms, or; because reducing remeron might give more room for adhd meds to work, side effects of Vyvanse. After dropping remeron I have washed clothes for the first time in 1 or 2 months. Yay! Meh. Need to have patience. When Remeron tapering is done I need to look on my adhd dose. Writing symptoms & diary is a good idea. Lasted for 2 weeks, perhaps itnwent south when I started with Remeron. Didn't know it blocked histamine receptors, know from experience that antihistamines and ritalin made me so "woosy" I could not walk straight. Yeha, Remeron, and also tapering, messes up my adhd. Big time.just look at this post. Took it to reduce ptsd symptoms, sleep more and eat more. Not having so many triggers now (change of situation), so going to try to use adhd meds alone. Being so sensitive to meds it's not tempting to spend several months trying out something that is likely to give too troublesome side effects. As in not functioning. Want to cook, take out trash and get stuff done, not play app games all day and too litle energy to shower or change a light bulb. I'll sort out my introduction later.
  15. Disposition


    HI all, I am new here! I am Dan My signature sais it all but basically I am here for support to taper remeron. I have only been on it for about 3 weeks to help with insonia from benzo withdrawl. I seriosuly thinking it is making things worse with my head so I want to taper to half of 7.5. As of now I am on around 7.0. I have a sesitive scale so I could use your advice. I will also read the forum here for info. Thanks for having me! Dan-
  16. Hi, I was prescribed mirtazapine 15mg and took my first dose on Friday night. Sadly I had a very adverse reaction and was hallucinating so was advised to discontinue immediately. I have not taken another tablet and the doctor said it would be out of my system in a few days without anymore problems, it is now Tuesday and I keep getting a prickly, itchy feeling on random patches of my body, arms,legs, back and torso in particular. I thought it was the tablet still in my system but it only started yesterday and seems to be getting worse, I know it sounds crazy but is it possible that I am experiencing withdrawals after just one 15mg tablet? I am absolutely terrified here, please help.
  17. Hi from Oz, I recently got real fed up with the amount of tablets I was taking. I looked at them and thought... Which one is the least needed... Mirtazapine was my choice. I've been on 15mcg nightly for well over a year now and it was given to help with my elevated anxiety and crap sleep. I'm also on pristiq many years now. Well, 3 weeks ago, I stopped it cold turkey... Felt fine, felt great, no worries whatsoever. About one week later I started itching like mad, I thought... Bug bites, scabies, bed bugs, fleas. I would feel the itch, scratch it and bang, big itchy mozzie like lumps would form. I got tested for scabies, all clear, cleaned all my linen, vacuumed, even did my hair for head lice. All clear. Two visits to doc, no conclusion except topical steroid base cream and oral anti histamine to stop the UNBELIEVABLE insane itch. I am riddled with hives! Just this morning my daughter asked me about my meds and said maybe it's withdrawal? So here I am, itching like the devil himself is torturing me and decided that I can't go on anymore, the creams ain't cutting it, I went back on the Mirtazapine tonight! Who else itched and scratched and scratched, I can't handle it anymore! Every doorjamb has my dna all over it from my backscratching
  18. readytobedone

    readytobedone: Remeron

    ***Moved from Tips for Tapering Lexapro*** I know this thread is old, but I have a question a little different than what I'm reading. Everyone is different, and I am thankful for the experience I'm having although I have questions. I realize there are people on this thread who have struggled more. I took Lexapro for less than 6 months in 2009. I quit cold turkey - I had no idea that there was a withdrawal effect. PCP didn't tell me, which I'm learning is a theme. My withdrawal didn't last long, maybe a month, gradually getting better over that time. My major sign was the brain zaps. I understand these are not as common with Remeron, although it wouldn't surprise me. Jump forward to 2013, I started taking Remeron. I was experiencing situational anxiety and not sleeping well (very difficult job at a place I hated). I have since switched jobs and I love where I am. I would also like to start a family. My PCP has suggested going off the med, as I feel I am in a place where I can do this, and Remeron is not safe for pregnancy (which is now obvious to me...) I heard that Remeron withdrawal was not as bad as the SSRI/SNRI withdrawal. I started cutting my 15 mg pills in half over Memorial Day weekend 2016 - over 3 months ago. I didn't think to taper. I didn't know I should. I am having some withdrawal symptoms, a little mind fog, dizziness, fatigue, and tremors. No effect on GI or insomnia. My symptoms seem minor compared to what I'm reading. My question is - since I did a 50% cut with few symptoms, should I go all the way to 3.75? This was my original plan, but I'm questioning that now. I think a 10% taper is maybe overkill in my situation, but I don't really know. Has anyone done a 30-50% taper with no symptoms? Is this normal? I am thankful, but now apprehensive that the last 7.5 will be hard to manage.
  19. Hi everyone. I'm new to this forum. So I was on Abilify back in May for 3 weeks and then I went off of it. Everything went down hill so I went back on it for 3 more weeks then went off of it. It's been a month since my last dose. I wake up every morning crying for no reason. And feeling depressed for no reason. Is there anything I can do to help the healing process? I'm feeling really hopeless. PS I was on 2mg
  20. Ok so I've been on Mirtazapine for almost two months. I had some side effects the first week but then it was fine. The past 3 weeks however I have been having a huge host of side effects, some of which are debilitating like really bad vertigo, extreme disorientation, derealization, depersonalization, short term memory loss and completely blanking out for periods of time (I only know this because I'll look at the time and continue doing something then all of a sudden I'll get this weird feeling like I just awoke from a sleepless dream. I'll look at the time and like an hour or so will have passed) and diminished sense of time (i.e minutes feels like hours or hours only feels like a few minutes. Today 10 hours passed by in the blink of the eye and I can barely remember the day). Some days are better than others but some are really bad. I've missed two weeks of work (I've tried going back multiple times but couldn't get through even 10 minutes. Movement and bright lights makes the vertigo worse) The worst of it has been the past 5 days non-stop. I've been to the ER three times and to the doctors (including a second doctor) and they all chalk it up to 'panic attacks' or simply say "I don't know" yet not one of them has recommended stopping Mirtazapine... (Scratching my head at this) I literally feel like I'm stoned out of my mind. The only other time I have felt even remotely like this was when I tried a pot brownie (bad idea). My vision had diminished severely and I feel like I have nerve damage. I have almost no sense of taste or touch. Pain tolerance is way higher. But they refuse to believe it's not mental so I've decided I have to come off Mirtazapine as I don't know what else could be causing this. So I've read all of the guides and I'm sorry... it's probably my decreased mental states (I'm having serious trouble retaining information) but I'm totally confused as to how to do it. I'm on 15mg quick dissolve tabs. Thanks.
  21. Hello all, per the instructions I'm posting my introduction. I was on Zoloft for mild anxiety from 2002 to November 2014. We went to China to adopt a 3 year old son, when I got really sick with a GI bug. I got home to the US and no one could diagnose the issue, told me it was in my head, and started throwing psyc meds at me. They put me on Klonopin with Xanax which I developed tolerance to and crashed in December of 2014, but didn't know what was going on. February of 2015 they took me off Zoloft and put me on Amitriptyline, the week after took me off Amitriptyline and put me on Cymbalta. I started tapering Klonopin February 2015, to "help" I was put on Seroquel which was HORRIBLE. I continued to taper, got off June 2, 2015 from Klonopin and felt good for 3 weeks then crashed again while on Cymbalta and Seroquel. Switched back to Zoloft from Cymbalta August of 2015, and started tapering Seroquel which did NOT go well. Dyskinesia, autonomic muscular issues, etc. So they put me on Compazine which was even worse. To help coming off Copmazine I was put on Remeron. Around the first of November 2015 I ended Compazine, felt good for a couple days, then started having excessive agitation, anxiety, mood disturbances, tremors, shaking, chills and was told I was having serotonin syndrome. I had to stop Zoloft abruptly and things got a bit better, but stayed on Remeron. Still did not feel myself, mood and sleep disturbances, then discovered that Remeron doubled the risk for my GI infection (yes, they finally discovered I had c. difficile) so stopped it as well on December 29. 3 weeks ago my psyc tried Clonidine, which was bad then then 2 days later Buspirone which was even worse (caused significant horrific deep depression), then tried 1/8 of a 25 mg Zoloft which about destroyed me. Been off everything since then (3 weeks). Over the past year I've been on 31 different meds (not all psyc) Things are NOT going well. I have depression which I never struggled with before all this, waking with severe agitation/anxiety at 4am every day, sleep disturbance, horrendous body aches/flu like symptoms, leg pain, nerve pain, numbness and tingling in my feet, ringing in my ears, weakness, fatigue, diarrhea/constipation/abdominal pain, food intolerance, general sense of malaise, visual disturbances with migraine like symptoms (seeing bright lights, blurred vision), incredible dizziness and vertigo. Significant difficulty concentrating, lack of motivation, loss of interest in things. During the day I'll have random periods where I will feel a sense of impending doom and/or agitation. Then last week my legs started giving out on me...there are times when I am shuffling around the house like I have MS or something and my legs buckle to the point where I've fallen a couple of times. I would have instances of this while experiencing serotonin syndrome and also while doing a "cut" from Klonopin, but the last 2 weeks it has been sustained. This week the flu like symptoms have ramped up...I've never had such severe flu symptoms before, the pain is unbearable unless I take 800mg of Motrin which is starting to eat the lining of my stomach. I also have severe stiffness, particularly in my hands, legs and arms to the point where I have difficulty moving in the evening. My wife believes this is either "withdrawal" or lyme disease. There is also the brain-gut connection issue with my infection, but I had a Fecal Microbial Transplant 3 weeks ago which is supposed to restore the good bugs... I also have severe adverse reactions to ALL psyc meds and anticholinergics including Benadryl. I struggle with thinking that I need something to "stabilize" me because I feel so badly, but deep down I know that I wasn't like this before, so I am hoping and praying that my CNS heals and I can get back to my pre-China state. Life is unbearable at times, there are very few times where I have a couple of hours of relief, usually at night. That's my story...
  22. Hi I started withdrawing from mirtazapine 15mg at the end of March 2016, reducing by 5% every two weeks. I've been grinding the tablets and making a liquid. Now down to 11mg but the last couple of weeks have been feeling extremely tired and unmotivated and very low and anxious. I'm not sure whether just to go back up to 15mg and stabilise on that dose again and then try withdrawing again in a few months time? Thanks
  23. Hello there, I'm, itching to start a withdrawl but keep changing my mind on which one.. - mirtazapine (45mg) will probably be the easiest from past experience and makes me fat - but does help me sleep and potentially buffers the sexual side effects of venlafaxine - venlafaxine (112.5mg ER) is nasty stuff and I want to see if I have a proper libido left! Feel it caps my emotions a lot. Scared of reducing it though after cymbalta experience in 2007 - lamotrigine (300mg) on this high dose is really slowing me down, starting to compromise my immune system and I reckon doesn't help libido. since going up to this dose alcohol even ocasionally in small amounts is nasty. Like the idea of getting it down somewhat. I came off it back in 2011 OK but that was from a possibly sub-therapeutic almost placebo dose of 150mg not the monster 300mg I'm now on. Feels like poison at this level. My suspicion is that the earlier stages of the reduction of this - perhaps the opppoisite of AD's - will be the hardest? Is it best to start with the easiest? Is lamotrigine best kept on while reducing AD's due its GABA/glutamate effects? How about focusing on one for a bit, then another, then returning to the first? I am planning a slow taper. Just generally feel they don't do much apart from the side effects, my body is still trying to present the deep trauma that needs facing and I still need to work on taming the mind. They seem redundant and I am learning to trust in other tools and my body but scared of the withdrawl effects..I am having a lot of life changes so won't do it just yet but want to be prepared. Try not to let my anger at psychiatry and pharma and fear compromise my nervous system further but that can be hard Thanks! Here's my history: ----------------------- Current: Venlafaxine 112.5mg; Lamotrigine 300mg; Mirtazapine 45mg restarted Lamotrigine/Mirtazapine in 2012, bumped up Lasmotrigine and then very reluctantly added Venlafaxine in 2013 and further bumped up Lamotrigine in 2014. Got a new psychiatrist since who is less med focused! Reduced Vn to 75mg in 2013; brief experiment a year later reducing venlafaxine to 37.5mg, ended up going back to 112.5mg! (bit hasty). This year dropped Lamotrigine to 250mg under psychiatrist's advice (he suggested to 225mg) - nasty stuff, too quick! A time of personal change so decided to put back up rather than tough it out - maybe too hasty but I have the fear! Impatient to start getting off them - libido, weight gain, tiredness, capping of mood yet not really helping with depression. Though I have a lot of life changes at the moment so more that i want to get prepared so I can hit the ground running. Recently started seeing highly recommended acupuncturist with experience of med WD to boost my system, take omega 3 (recently started fermented cod liver oil in addition to EPA/DHA) and restarted vit D., try to follow guidelines in Mood Cure book (keep meaning to give gluten free diet a proper go), do good therapy on psychological issues, work part-time etc Previous meds: 2006 Citalopram quickly switched to Duoloxetine; 2007 off Duloxetine with continual tiny taper over six months (sexual side effects), bad WD's in the end, lasted a couple of months off and was then tried on... 2008: Mirtazapine up to 45mg (off 2010) + Lamotrigine up to 150mg 2009-2010 came off mirtazapine in 6 tapers of 7.5mg, no big issues, felt better for it. 2011 - came off lamotrigine over a few months, tapers of 25mg a time - little bit of depression returning. summer 2012 big crash after lots of life changes over the last year! Feel like my nervous system is severely sensitised even with (or due to!!) the meds. Diagnoses: reactive depression, bipolar depression, borderline traits - according to which professional you speak to!
  24. Madfrank

    Madfrank: Hello

    Hello I'm new to the site don't know if I'm posting in right place. Anyway I'll try and keep my history brief. Prior to these medications I had never taken any other than the odd antibiotic. No history of depression or anxiety. In December 2013 I became ill with gastro problem which later turned out to be gastritis inflammation of the stomach. At the same time I contracted a virus / cold flu symptoms. I also didn't sleep for three days solid. On the fourth day I went to hospital and was given something for my stomach and 3 day supply zopiclone. This is were my real problems began. After taking the zopiclone sleeping tablets sleep began to elude me. I was then given a mixture over many months of zopiclone diazepam temazapam and lorazapam. I was on these for many months and then some doctor in her wisdom decided I had depression and a number of antidepressants were thrown in the mix. I eventually found the benzo buddies site and realised what my problems were which I must say we're severe withdrawal and interdose withdrawal. At some point I had stopped cold turkey the diazapam temazapam and zopiclone. I was left with lorazapam Prozac and mirtazapine. I weaned myself off the lorazapam taking the last bit on 26/12/14. The withdrawal has been horrendous. I remained on the two A/Ds until September 2015 when I finished weaning off Prozac. Apart from severe insomnia I started to feel good and in November I stopped taking the mirtazapine I jumped off at 7.5 Mgs. For two weeks I felt good I was off all meds and I slept for the first time in two years without medication. I was averaging about 5 hrs a night. Then the start of the third week the withdrawal symptoms hit me and it felt like I was back in withdrawal from the benzos. I have now reinstated on 7.5 Mgs 5 days ago. Again my sleep is abysmal. I have reached a stage where I don't know what to do. I need advice help and support this has gone on so long and I am so tired. The mirtazapine has never really helped me sleep like it does with other people. But I would like to be off it please help/advice please. Thanks Frank
  25. Hello everyone, I have been reading many posts regarding Remeron/ Mirtazapine in the last few weeks. I found the information very helpful. I wish I had found this site earlier... I started taking 4mg of Ativan and 30mg of Remeron in February of 2014. In May 2014, I reduced Ativan from 4 to 3mg overnight. Was unaware of proper tapering technique, felt terrible side effects from 25% reduction. After becoming familiar with the Ashton manual, started a crossover taper 3mg Ativan to 30mg Valium in August 2014. Completed a slow taper on May 19 2016. Benzo free as of today, but still on 30mg of Remeron. I believe I am currently feeling strong side effects from the Remeron. I started feeling this way a few days after stopping the Valium. I am feeling dizziness like “walking on moving ship”, headaches, nausea, concentration problems, upset stomach. I find it difficult to function in this condition. I thought I had accomplished the hard work when I finished my benzo taper. I began reading about the Remeron on Surviving Antidepressants. I was really surprised by what I read: “When you remove the Benzo, the AD’s adverse effects come to the forefront.” and “ Mirt likely to be stimulating and might be uncomfortable without the Benzo.” The recommendations on which drug to taper first goes against what you would find in the Ashton Manual or a site like Benzo Buddies. “Benzo withdrawal before Antidepressant withdrawal increases the risk of a difficult antidepressant withdrawal.” All these ideas are news for me. I have read many comments on the forum which reflect the symptoms I have been feeling from the Remeron. I believe I need to taper the Remeron. I am questioning wether I can taper Remeron successfully in my present condition or in order to do this properly would I need to reinstate a low dose of Valium, possibly 2mg. I should add that where I am currently living I do not have access to liquid remeron or special pharmacies. I will need to create my own liquid mirt by using the Remeron Soltab 30mg. From reading the recommendations, 10% cut every 4 weeks is the way to go. A first cut would be by 3mg to 27 mg. Had a doctor (that helped me with my Benzo taper) suggest a Remeron taper by taking : 30 mg 1st night then 15mg 2nd night, back to 30mg 3rd night, then down to 15mg on 4th night, and so on for 3 weeks. If ok then stay at 15mg. Sounds risky to me… I am trying to figure out the best way forward. I would appreciate any suggestions. Thanks Karlos
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