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  1. Hi, all. Signed up because I was reading some good, detailed advice on the forums by others who are trying to taper off Cymbalta/duloxetine (as I am) and thought I might want to ask questions at some point, and either way could do with somewhere to track progress and perhaps give something back in the way of tracking another experience of coming off this stuff. I began Cymbalta 6 years ago for both pain and depression reduction related to a new diagnosis of autoimmune rheumatoid arthritis. I wanted to avoid going on stronger arthritis medications, so needed something else to take the edge off the pain, and Cymbalta filled that gap. 60mg has been my dose for that period. Doubtless this medication was helpful when I needed it, and there have been times I've thought I'd maybe just stay on it forever, but recently I've come to suspect that this medication and not the arthritis might be behind my feelings of being exhausted all the time, my increasingly terrible attention span/ability to focus, and the cravings for alcohol that I'd never had a problem with previously. I've tried to reduce Cymbalta a couple of times in the past by alternating between 60mg and 30mg tablets (my doctor's suggestion), but when I tried to take it down to 30mg/everyday I couldn't maintain it there. Physical pain was too bad, and I caved and went back up to the full dose on both occasions. I'm feeling willing now to have a stab at tapering off more slowly if that is going to work better. I've recently gone on the stronger arthritis medication, so swapping one for the other is my plan. Fun, fun! My present box of the stuff is a generic capsule (the box says Coperin though) with the mini-tablets inside. Each 60mg capsule contains 12 mini-tablets (so 5mg each) and advice on here says to cut back 10% at a time, so tonight I'll be removing ONE mini-tablet. I haven't decided yet how long I need to take this new dose for. I was thinking 2 weeks, maybe 3? These mini-tablets look like they're going to make it easy for me to taper down to about 40mg by cutting back 1 mini-tablet with each dose reduction. (All of these doses will be close to 10% of the previous dose.) From there I guess I'm going to be switching to the branded version and counting little beads. I've peeked inside those capsules before and it was pretty nightmarish (I actually *mushed* one of the beads accidentally when trying to count them!) so I'm really glad of the mini-tablets being sufficient for the next little while!
  2. Hello everybody! And thank you for this forum I have just discovered. I am reading it through but in the meantime I explain my story to you. So, I am Italian leaving in Spain, I am almost 33 and during one of the treatments I I followed to cure my vulvodynia I unfortunately had to take antidepressants (1 year and a half of Laroxyl up to 15 drops I think) and another year and a half of Cymbalta (up to 90mg). None of these antidepressants cured me, they only relieved some symptoms and moreover I began to have side effects, so I decided to quit them at the end of 2014. My neurologist told me to drop from 90 mg to 0 mg of Cymbalta in approx. 6 weeks. I experienced at the beginning a sort of vertigo which slowly went away, together with low mood. I also began having ringing which never went away. After about one month from the suspension, in February 2015 I began feeling inner tremors and shakes, I was feeling always tense and nervous, from when I woke up to when I went to bed. I went to another neurologist explaining my symptons and she referred it as chemical imbalances due to this suspension and she put me on a month on bromazepam, and I was back to normal. I suspended it and I felt the same symptoms again, so we decided to start Lyrica which could help both my anxiety and my chronic pain. Lyrica helped, as the inner tremor and shakes went away, but they returned at the end of November 2015. Desperate I went back to bromazepam and I was a little better, but then I decided I want to get rid of both Lyrica and anxyolitics, so I began to take them away little by little. At some point I felt normal meds free but only for a week as I began to have jaw problems because of my bruxism, and few weeks ago I was diagnosed with disc luxation because of stress/anxiety, so my system activated again with shakes and inner tremors and ever since never deactivated. I began feeling again from the morning to the night inner tremors and shakes, together with ringings and sense of huge tension and stress and this still occurs until now. I know I won't kill or hurt myself but there are times I have thoughts I want my life to be over as I suffer too much and don't have a pause or ever feel relaxed. I forgot to tell i have mutation of Factor V of Leiden and mutation of gene MHTFR. All my doctors (neurologist, psychiatrist, family doctor, cardioligist) refer my symptons as anxiety and that this is my personality and when questioned why I began to felt that way I never felt before, they say that I probably always had anxiety but until that moment my anxiety was blocked by those drugs. They said that antidepressants don't harm the brain ( I did a MRI and that was ok) and that it's not WD as my body already deintoxicated from these substances long ago. I have to say, I am an anxious person and tend to worry about things but I never felt this way. I went on therapy for some years and did improve in many things so I can't explain how I feel now. I don't refer it as something psychological - of course there are some stressors which trigger me and of course I feel stress and anxiety from time to time but not that long and that high- but rather as something physical. Almost nothing except anxyolitics help me, I tried meditation, yoga, mindfulness, relaxing herbs, 5htp, relaxation techniques but I have no relieve. What do you think I suffer from your experience? Anxiety or WD? What is your advice? Is it bad to resist again these symptoms and should i go back to meds or should I give time for my body to heal? And how? It's been 1 year and a half already and it's been a hell... Do you know doctors I can refer to? What should I do? Are there supplements that help our body healing? Thanks a lot for your help, Regards, xxx
  3. Hi everyone. I'm new to this forum. So I was on Abilify back in May for 3 weeks and then I went off of it. Everything went down hill so I went back on it for 3 more weeks then went off of it. It's been a month since my last dose. I wake up every morning crying for no reason. And feeling depressed for no reason. Is there anything I can do to help the healing process? I'm feeling really hopeless. PS I was on 2mg
  4. I f have been on Pristiq now for over four years, 2 x 100mq a day. I am finding i am suffering from serious mood swings, (and i am talking serious!!!). MY whole life I have been a very calm rational person butthese days I can seem to go clean off at something or sombody for very little reason. Has anyone heard if this is a long term side effect of the drug?
  5. Hello - I just joined this site as I need help for my mother. She is 69 years old and starting having some fairly acute bouts of depression after she retired. She had been taking a sleeping pill (I don't know the name) since the mid 80's and decided she wanted to stop taking them around age 66. She stopped cold turkey. I think this is when the depressive symptoms began (as a result of withdrawls) for which she started seeing a psychologist and psychiatrist. After trial and error...lots of error...she has now been on Cymbalta (1 daily - 60mgs), Olylanzabine (zyprexa - 1 at bed - 5mgs) and Trazadone (100mgs at bed) for over a year now. It seems as though they are all interacting poorly and creating even more problems. She can barely function. Its as if her brain doesn't remember how to even process a thought properly. After doing my own research and getting my father on board, I'd like to get her off of as much of the medicine as possible and see if we can get her "well" without the meds. We are starting with the Zyprexa. After reading and learning about the horrific side effects of this drug, many of which she is experiencing, we have decided to taper her from this pill first. My father called her primary care physician and he said to half the Zyprexa for a month and we will continue lowering the dosage from there. She is not psychotic or bipolar, so I'm unclear as to why this was prescribed to her in the first place. After a week, she said she is already experiencing withdrawl symptoms. However, I'm not sure if she is experiencing them because it was suggested to her that she could possibly have withdrawls, or if she actually is having withdrawls. I should mention, she is of the old school thinking that if a doctor prescribes you medication, you take it because it will make you feel better. So, we have caught her taking multiple Trazadone at night because she thinks they help her sleep - the more the better, right? She is afraid she won't be able to function without taking all of these meds that are making her worse than she ever was before. I think after showing her what I have learned, she is ready to start the detoxing process. My mother has always been a happy, healthy, outgoing person until this prescription pill nightmare began. Any input, direction or help would be so helpful. Thank you, Briana
  6. LisaM271970

    LisaM271970 Introduction

    I've been on anti-depressants for 18 years. Currently on 60 mg of Cymbalta. 5 years ago, tried to taper off Cymbalta, it was a disaster. I had resigned to take it forever since I was afraid to stop and the withdrawal and my doctor convinced me I need it. I've worked up to trying again and realize that the taper must be much more gradual and prolonged. I was just about to push purchase on $200+ of supplements to help start my taper when I found this website. I'm planning on seeing my doctor on the 19th to let him know I'm starting this taper off of Cymbalta, I'm not expecting him to be supportive of this. My plan is the decrease by 5% every time last decrease feels ok. I admit that in the end I may need an anti-depressant but it won't be this one.
  7. I was prescribed Lyrica and Cymbalta for what a lazy rheumatologist decided was fibromyalgia - that is as an off-label pain mediator. I managed to get through the initial side effects - which were fairly innocuous: I'd take the capsule at 10pm and wake at 2am with diarrhoea every night for just over a week. That was it - no other effects and no pain reduction ... ever. Sacked the lazy rheumy and coasted for some years. Then gathered myself again and found a bright energetic interested researching rheumy and an equally good integrative physician. While waiting for my first rheumy appointment I weaned off Lyrica. Have some liver damage partially due to medications but also possibly due to a big dose of Epstein-Barr at 20yo with hepatitis. Energetic rheumy found ... Ta da! ... Psoriatic arthritis, ankylosing spondylitis and other enthesites - with fibro as a secondary artefact of having had significant joint pain since teen years. Hmmm She is a researcher so I agreed to start a clinical trial of secukinumab which is not currently licensed for use in Australia. During the trial I wasn't allowed to change my drug regime so I've been sitting on it for 12mths. Sadly, I am one of the unlucky small percentage of people that are not helped by secukinumab, so I've been released from the trial after only one year - relief and sadness all at once! BUT now's my chance to have a go at weaning off Cymbalta which I plan to do with the help of both the rheumy and integrative physician. I have a lot of concerns as I am still in considerable pain, use buprenorphine patches which ease the muscular pain but without something to reduce the inflammation in my entheses I'm in trouble. During all this I've worked part time with small children then full time when they grew up. I recently requested a medical assessment for work and have recently reduced to half hours which has provided some relief from fatigue. So I have some obvious problems with the concept of weaning - I'm still in considerable pain, I need to look at other biologic drugs to sort out my joints, I'm still working ... I'm keen but also concerned that I'll end up in a mess and I've just climbed out of the last one by reducing my hours. I can afford to leave work on medical grounds as I have income protection but again - am I ready. So lots of questions and lots of friends needed. Jamtin Dx: Psoriatic arthritis, ankylosing spondylitis, other enthesites, fibromyalgia, Sjögren's syndrome, peri-glaucoma, hypertension Rx: meloxicam, Cymbalta, melatonin, diazepam, telmisartin, buprenorphine, med cann
  8. Howdy folks! I've been on cymbalta for a little over a year now, and out of the list of antidepressants I've taken (prozac, zoloft, wellbutrin, amitriptyline, trazodone) it's been the most successful at treating both my anxiety and depression. Unfortunately, it's also been incredibly successful at making me immune to this thing called "falling asleep" and has jacked up my blood pressure to heights of hilarity that are not countered by increasing my blood pressure medication. Oh yeah, and weight gain. Ugh. I first thought I'd go cold turkey, as I had with most of my previous antidepressants, and just suffer through it. Woah, was that a learning experience! Two days of trying to survive that had me back on my dose in no time. I met with my psychiatrist and discussed it all in detail, and he's having me taper down 20mg at a time per month. I started at 60mg, so I'm at 40mg right now. I felt like I was doing kinda alright, but one week in and I'm miserable. My emotions are all over the place, from waking up bawling like someone just passed away to feeling like I'm "Joe Cool". I'm nauseas all the time, sometimes to the point of wanting to throw up. My head feels like a constant migraine, I'm exhausted all the time, and best of all, I have the most vivid slasher horror movie nightmares each and every night. Joy! I can't wait to find out what dropping to 20mg feels like next month! On the plus side, I'm sleeping more than 2 hours a night and my blood pressure has dropped over 40 points! Unreal...
  9. Hello, I'm very thankful to have found this forum and appreciative for such honest communication and support. What led me here: I discontinued 60 mg of Cymbalta in March of this year w/no taper. I now know this was extremely dangerous, reckless, and uninformed. Now focused on addressing what's been a truly humbling withdrawal experience (which I will do WITH the support of a medical professional). It's been 5 1/2 weeks and symptoms are intense, constant, and have not improved. Ongoing leg and foot pain (throbbing and burning all day/night), headaches, extremely sore neck, anxiety, depression, uncontrollable mood swings, and emotional outbursts. Practicing best self-care I can - good diet, rest, yoga, walking (leg pain makes running extremely difficult), meditation, etc. but believe this is a larger withdrawal issue that I'm not going to be able to solve with this course of action solely. Based on what I've read so far, I believe that going back on Cymbalta to do a gradual taper is most likely necessary. I'm working to to be informed and remain positive - but the physical and emotional side effects can make that tough at times. And of course, it's tough to go back on something you're trying so hard to be off of, but I need to focus on getting well and staying well. I have great support from family and friends, recently found a therapist I really like, now just trying to recover from what I believe are Cymbalta withdrawals. It's taken time to find medical practitioners after parting ways with some I didn't agree with. I'm sorting through such helpful information on this site and just wanted to say hello, introduce myself, and share my appreciation. Hopefully, I'll be able to contribute and support others as I learn more. No one should ever struggle with these things alone.
  10. Hello, I found this site while checking reviews about supplements sold by another site. Thank the Universe I was compelled to do so, saved myself a lot of $$. Read around a bit and knew that I had come home. In 1992 I was diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and part of that was insomnia. I was started on 25mg of Amitriptyline and am still on that same dose today. However, life happened and the pain and everything made me depressed. Over the years I went from one anti depressant to another, and the Wellbutrin was the last. I stopped taking it cold turkey, never thought twice about it and had no side effects (that I recognized!) I am not sure how it is I was so oblivious, as I am usually a very inquisitive person and am constantly researching and reading about anything. ​Maybe a light bulb went on because of what's been happening slowly over the past 6 months. All changes from one to the next went OK, stopped and started one after another. Until I was only on the Amitriptyline again. Then I had sleep issues again, and a doctor suggested Klonopin. He did not think I should have Xanax. In fact, he dropped it and I did go through a few weeks of tense emotions. The Klonopin was offered long after. This doctor allowed me to be on Hydrocodone, 2 ea of 10/325. Then my insurance changed and the next doctor fussed a bit, then OK'd it, but after a year she dropped me, because she thought I was doctor shopping. (I had a root canal and an extraction, each cost me many $$, and certainly not worth getting 16 5/325 Vicodin for) I had to look for another doctor, and this one refused to give me the pain medication. What she did is had me withdraw unsupervised and way too fast. This all gives me great hope that I will make it through my current journey. My wings have been clipped, and I am not liking this at all. This last doctor who took my pain meds away wanted to start me on Lyrica, I refused, knowing is causes weight gain, a fact that is actually well known. Unfortunately I allowed her to talk me into taking Cymbalta, which can also cause weight gain, especially once partnered with the Amitriptyline and Klonopin. Wings were growing back, but the added weight in the past 6 months has made it almost impossible to move, let alone fly.... Around Christmas I had Pneumonia, but it would not go away, so I asked for a chest x-ray, on the 1 year anniversary of quitting smoking. Findings were an enlarged heart and a partially collapsed lung. And the letter read that we'd discuss in 3 months at the next appointment........ Long story short, I called to talk to her, to learn she was gone for a month. I was so angry - so I asked to see a different doctor, one I had seen before, and he has great bedside manners! Ultrasound revealed heart is OK, not sure about the lungs, but the coughing and wheezing is pretty much gone now. I quit seeing that woman and switched - and on my 1st official appointment, I took my meds with with me and one by one I asked questions, and he told me the truth, and we made a plan. maybe his plan is possible, we shall see. Based on past experience, I apparently can handle withdrawals. But I do not want to travel this journey alone, so I am glad I found all of you. We also agreed on dropping the Amitriptyline and he told me about Klonopin causing Dementia and Alzheimer's, and he encouraged me to let that go, too. I told him that I was no longer taking Buspar, it was not working, I kept forgetting to take it (for anxiety) and it did nothing for/to me. I only took it for a week or so) I started tapering on Monday 21st of March. The night from the 24th to the 25th I had a bad dream, woke up with heart palpitations, checked it and was at 135 heart rate. oops. very odd feelings. I recalled reading about settling these effect by taking a Benzo - so I did. It helped. I have re-set my game plan to get off Cymbalta and Amitriptyline first. The Klonopin next. For sleep I was given Trazadone. But I am looking for natural ways to get me sleepy and sleeping again. Now, all my reading the past few days has shown that many experience a great range of symptoms, either while still on the drugs or as they are withdrawing. I felt it might be safe to stick with folks who understand and I can learn so much from you. My goal is to bring the Phoenix back to life - to find that part that I lost again, all the while losing a few pounds - especially what I gained the past 6 months, rendering me useless (in my opinion) and I will not live like this any longer. It's dangerous too, as I fall and have hurt myself, not good. I am committed to success using as many natural tools as I can. Am on supplements now and notice how much better I feel already. Thanks for reading this. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/11690-ingridphoenix-i-want-to-fly-again/
  11. I started out in 1998 with Paxil for anxiety. Began having twitches and the "I don't give a crap" attitude so switched to Lexapro in about 2002. Insurance quit paying so switched to cousin Celexa in about 2005. Tapered from 40 mg down to 20 mg in 2012, then both parents got ill and died in 2013. Went back to 40mg. Started having anxiety attacks again in Dec, 2015. Dr prescribed Cymbalta 60 mg to switch to. Easy transition she said. I took the Cymbalta 60 mg for 6 weeks before I could not take the sweating, anger, rage, dry mouth and dizziness anymore. I switched straight back to Celexa 40 mg. 5 days later ended up in the ER with heart palpitations and couldn't catch my breath. Dizziness, disconnect, muscle pain, and fear were my new norm. Still dealing with episodes of sweating and dizziness but I wonder how long till the side affects subside after only being in the rx for 6 weeks? Would like to replace the Celexa with something natural as well, in time. any thoughts?
  12. NotGettingBy

    NotGettingBy- Intro

    Hey Everyone, First time on the site. Was looking around on the internet about what I'm going through because I'm lost as can be. And I feel so damn alone going through it. So I created an account. My abridged story is as follows: You can see the drug history in my signature I believe. I went cold turkey off of Cymbalta on July 1, 2015. So a little over three months ago now. I am positive the last three months have been the worst of my life. Every day has been a battle and nothing seems to have gotten better. I read somewhere about the waves and windows concept and so far it has been one gigantic wave. The symptoms started with vertigo, intestinal problems, lack of hunger for anything but sweets, constant panic level anxiety. My memory feels as though it has been wiped clean. I can hardly remember any details from the significant events of my past. I cannot remember names, locations, or even full events that I experienced. I am constantly scared. I never want to leave my room. I fear going to work and interacting with anyone. My sex life flatlined about a week after coming off the drugs and has been nonexistent ever since. I have gained about fifteen pounds of fat although I rarely eat real food. It's all junk. I started out very vigilant about my diet, supplements and exercise but it all tapered off because nothing seemed to put a dent in the way I feel. None of my friends know what is going on. My parents know but are across the country and just don't really understand. Right now I'm desperate. I have involuntary thoughts of death all the time. Images of me dying are just forced into my brain like its looking for some sort of alleviation for the pain. At this point it is only involuntary. I do not wish to hurt myself nor to die. It just sounds relieving is all. I really do not wish to go back on the drugs. I believe three months means I should be over the initial physical withdrawal and I do not want to go through that aspect again. And I doubt going on anything would really help me in the long run. I guess I just don't know what to do from here. Sometimes I want to quit my job, leave my life here and move in back with my parents. But that sounds like it comes with a different set of trials and tribulations. I just want to get better. The complacency caused by crippling anxiety is astounding, however. Apologies if this intro is a bit disjointed. My brain is a little out of commission. I probably left a few important things out but I'll add them if they come to mind. Thank you for any help in advance.
  13. I've suffered from generalised anxiety and depression since I was about 13. My parents were against medication, so it was diagnosed but it was never really addressed. I was first started on Lexapro at 17 because of a serious eating disorder. The Lexapro was amazing in helping my anxieties around food, within a couple of months I was able to eat with fairly normal regularity. Before the Lexapro I wasn't eating anything more than an apple or a slice of bread a day. I was taken off Lexapro after a year because I felt I didnt need it anymore. The anxiety continued, just not around food. Over several years I was diagnosed by different doctors with a variety of disorders including PTSD and Bipolar disorder, neither of which rang true to me. I developed compulsive self-harming behaviours and severe social anxiety. I was reluctant to use medication again, but over the past four years now I've been tried on Lexapro again and Zoloft several times in varying doses. At times they've helped for a somewhat but not how I hoped they would. At that time I wasn't always great at always taking the medication, and my tendency to self-medicate with alcohol didnt help. I still felt unable to function normally day-to-day. Studying was impossible, social situations were still incredibly difficult. I turned over a new leaf this year, really wanting to see a change. After being on a high dose of Lexapro the past six months I've been feeling its not right. When on a low dose I didnt feel notably better at all, and on a higher dose my sleep is terrible, I cant eat, I have trouble leaving my house, have trouble looking people in the eye I have awful nausea and no energy at all. I've now been prescribed Cymbalta, I'll start the course tomorrow. I think this is the first time I've tried a SNRI rather than a SSRI. My worry is that I'm going through a really difficult time emotionally right now, my partner unexpectedly left me. I'm scared that the strange symptoms that often occur during the first few weeks of a new drug might make everything a lot harder. I'd just be very interested to know what anyone else's experience has been in starting Cymbalta, how it felt, and how long it was before you noticed an improvement. Thank you for any advice or support you can give, I hope I can do the same for others.
  14. Hi all! My name is Anna. I've been taking antidepressants since roughly 1997. I've taken Wellbutrin, Paxil, some I can't remember, Effexor XR and, currently, Cymbalta. I live in eastern NC. My hobbies include gardening and reading suspense novels. I love being outside when it isn't too hot. I have 2 dogs, 3 cats and a handful of chickens and fish. I stumbled on this site while googling ways to taper off Cymbalta. Many, many, many times I have asked my well-meaning doctor to help me taper off the drug, but he convinces me it helped me when I needed it and it is still helping me so, why stop? Well, my main reason for wanting to stop is that I am not sure who I am any longer. I know who the antidepressant-taking person is that I am now, but who I really am is inside and she wants out. Also, I've seem to be progressively getting more "scatter-brained". I've never been the most put-together person, but I've begun to notice it seems to be getting worse. For example, if I'm cooking dinner I am just standing there thinking that I need to chop the vegetables. Well, I know HOW to do that, but I can't make my body DO IT. Or, I am following a recipe and read the next step, but I have to really think about doing it. It feels like I'm going crazy. Maybe going off Cymbalta won't help any of this, but I intend to find out and I'll be doing it on my own. I know that no one really knows the long term side effects of these meds. I've tried to talk to my doctor about this fact, but it is dismissed. I know he means well and he's doing the best he can, but I have to find out if I can live without meds and I have to find out who I am again. Any help or suggestions are apprecitated!
  15. Hello, I have been following this forum since I (regretibly) stopped taking Pristiq because I was trying to lower my costs and started taking Cymbalta. I recently (June 23rd) went to my Primary Dr who out me on Pristiq, and discussed options with him. We talked about Cymbalta, he made it sound like a good alternative to Pristiq and again, I was looking to save money and find a generic SNRI. The last 4 days have been miserable, he told me to stop taking Pristiq (even when I suggested lowering from 100 to 50mg first) and start Cymbalta, 30mg. I am at the point where I just want to go back on Pristiq, saving some money is not worth this feeling. I called Dr and was told I would have to set appt to see him again to go back on Pristiq, which I do have prescription for and refills. I just moved to another state and flying back there is not an option. And considering the way I was taken off one and put on the other, he will simply tell me the same thing. Has anyone had experience with starting an AD then switching back to your initial AD without any issues? Any advice would be appreciated, considering my Dr. wont even discus this with a simple phone call! Thank you in advance!! Echo
  16. I'm in the process of weaning off of Cymbalta. I started on Citalopram for depression, but was switched to Cymbalta following shoulder reconstruction surgery as it is apparently good for both depression and pain management. I started at 30 mg, increasing to 60, then finally 90 as a maintenance dose. Now I've started weaning off. I went from 90 to sixty, and stayed on sixty for 3 months, now I'm moving down to 30 (today is first day at 30) without much in the way of side effects, other than a little bit of dizziness. My concern is how to get from 30 to zero. I am also on Lorazepam for a gerneralize anxiety disorder, and I do find that taking it it helps to reduce the Cymbalta side effects. As well, I take Melatonin at night to ensure a restful and easy sleep. Any help or suggestions would be great and much appreciated. Cheers Duncan
  17. 2 weeks ago, after reading about the tapering method of 10% to 5% reduction, I decided to start tapering without any local support. Every night (so far 2 weeks), I have taken out 3 beads from 60mg of Andepra capsule(the generic version of Cymbalta). A few nights ago, I got around to counting the number of beads in this capsule. In the first count I counted 556 beads and in the second, I counted 559 beads. The average amount of beads I'm calculating to be 557.5 beads. I also worked out that the 3 beads I was taking out of each capsule worked out to be 0.54% of the total number count of the beads in both counts. I have also been preparing to swap over from Andepra to Cymbalta, because I have heard that Cymbalta is easier to taper off that to taper off a generic version of it. Also, I was told that weighing the tablets helps work out the exact amount of the capsule as there is no fixed weight for each bead as each bead is individual in it's actual weight. So I told to go to a tobacco/smoke shop to buy a weigh scale, so I went to one and there were two scales available. One was $229 and too expensive and the second one was $49. I asked to guy working there to show me how reliable the cheaper scale was, and so he pulled it out from under the display counter. I weighed on of the displayed cigarette lighters and it read a reading for that, but then when I asked if it would weigh something small or miniscule like a tablet, he pulled out a matchbox and tried to weigh it. I failed to show any weight on the scales display. And then he tried to weigh a single match stick from the matchbox and that also, failed to register a reading on the weigh scale. So I am also wondering where I can get a cheap, YET, reliable weigh scale that is accurate enough to weigh individual beads in a Cymbalta capsule. Thanks for reading.
  18. My prescribing doctor (a doctor in psychiatric nursing) is supportive of coming off of the Cymbalta and is recommending a taper of 10% of current dose/week. I am on 60mg, so this will take me approximately 9 months. After reading the posts in the forums, I am now feeling nervous that this will be too fast. I would be willing to do the 10% decrease every month if it weren't for wanting to try to have a baby. I do not want to carry a baby while taking Cymbalta. I am 32 now and would like to be able to start trying in a year. Does anyone have any thoughts or advice? I'm trying to be positive, but realistic.
  19. Hello everyone, I am very glad to have found a site for support. Today I am starting my journey to freedom from Cymbalta. I have used Cymbalta for 6 months now. I start with 30 mg and it was raised to 60 mg perday. I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia with an underlying generalized anxiety disorder. I feel like I am in a bubble most of the time, not fully here. The cost of the meds are horrendous. Weight gain.. just makes me want to hide. I've never been "chunky".. but since starting this med, I have gained weight consistently. I made up my mind today to come off this med, with the mind set to try anything other than pharm. meds for my needs. I would appreciate any help and/or advice you have to give. Thank you in advance... and blessing to each of you.
  20. Hi -- Livrwort here. I found this site while looking for some hope. I have been dealing with depression off and on for years. there is definitely a family connection, but I feel like I'm ready to be drug free, if i can be. I have tried Zoloft, Paxil,Prozac, Effexor, Wellbutrin, Buspar, and been on and off each, usually fed up with side effects. My first "anti-depressant" - so I thought at the time - was alcohol, which I quit 16 yrs ago. About 4 or 5 years ago, i started Cymbalta, which I thought helped me. However, i gained weight and didn't feel things too much anymore. About a year ago, i decided i didn't want to be addicted to it anymore, and started tapering off. I had tried going to every other day before, with bad results, so this time I went from 7 days to 6 days to 5 days, etc., giving myself about 6-8 weeks between steps. I didn't know anything about the granule-counting business -- probably should have looked it up. Anyway, it has been tough, but i am completely off Cymbalta now, for 3 weeks. This past 3 weeks has been the toughest thing i have ever been through. Physically, I feel ok -- I have a very physical job, and I think that has helped, but the worst thing physically is these "adrenaline rushes" I get. I don't know if this is common, but it is very tiring, and I have to fight the panic 100 times a day. Mentally, it is a fight every day with overwhelming feelings of being useless and worthless, and feeling like there is no point to life. I don't have suicidal thoughts, per se, because there is no way I would ever do that to my husband and kids. But - I feel pretty bad much of the time, and have crying spells (very unlike me) almost daily, if I hear of see anything sad or even just "touching." That makes me feel like a complete idiot. I do still get what people call "brain zaps," if I roll my eyes - I have always called this "maraca head syndrome," because my head "sounds" inside like a maraca when it happens. There are still humorous moments - I guess that is a good sign. I should mention that there has been a lot going on this past year. We have 5 children, and the last left home last Sept., so for the first time in 30 years, I don't have kids at home. Several friends have moved away, and I started the menopause journey as well, this fall. I donated a kidney to a friend in November, and my mother hasn't talked to me since, which has been rough, to say the least. I am very fortunate to have a wonderful husband, and kids, and I appreciate that they are supportive. None of them have taken anti-depressants, and I don't think they understand that the effects of stopping are not just a week or two of discomfort. It's a hard thing to communicate to someone who hasn't experienced it. My greatest hope is that this is a common experience, and that I will emerge from this terrible time and be ok. I don't want to be dependent on Cymbalta or anything else, if I don't have to be. I appreciate that there are so many people out there who are doing it, and I applaud you. I look forward to learning from you.
  21. Hi. I have fibromyalgia. Was on celexa for 10+ years dosage 20-30mg. My major FM symptoms are pain, unrefreshed sleep/chronic fatigue, anxiety. Celexa worked ok for years then pooped out. 6 months ago started Cymbalta. 20mg up to 60mg. Hated it, too many side effects. Decided I wanted off AD's. I'm at the point where I don't know what are symptoms of my illness and what are side effects. I wanted a clear base line of what I'm treating. With Dr approval she weaned me off from 60mg titrating down over about 5 weeks. Within days I had horrible withdrawal. Dr put me on 10mg prozac daily for 2 weeks, then 10 mg every other day. I'm due to stop prozac next week. Although the extreme physical side effects stopped almost immediately following taking prozac, I still feel pretty bad emotionally. I'm exhausted, restless, anxious, super irritable, and at moments depressed. I want to eat sugar by the pound???? is this relapse or withdrawal? I still hv prozac in my system so I'm confused. Maybe even side effects from prozac?? Idk! 43 yr fe, 10mg prozac 3x wk, 30mg adderall xr, .25mg klonopin
  22. Hi, I COLD TURKEY'D off of Cymbalta about a year ago, per doctors orders. I was on it for 15 years. I also have been taking Klonopin for 15 years. (2MG TWICE A DAY) I also have been taking Restoril 30 MG for about 15 years. After I CT'd off of the Cymbalta, I was at the doctor with symptoms. She gave me Xanax 2MG TWICE A DAY PRN ( I have taken this for about a year) Then, when came back, she gave me Valium 10 MG twice a day (I have taken this for about a year) The next time I went to the doctor, I was very sick. I am very weak, I can hardly walk, and I have severe depression and anxiety. She told me that if these meds were not working we would wean off of them. She had me start with the Klonopin, and she D/C'd it. I got sicker. She also cut the Xanax in half. So, Now I am taking 2MG once a day, PRN and Valium 10 MG twice a day. NO Klonopin. The plan was the next time I see her to come off the rest of the Xanax and then getting off of the Valium. I feel so sick, I am really weak and I can hardly eat, my head hurts, my whole body hurts. I am in pain all the time. Then, the depression and anxiety are worse than I have ever experienced. Any tips or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
  23. Hi all, I'm here to share my positive experience so far with tapering off 30mg Cymbalta. I reside in Australia where supply for me is prescribed in blister packs with one month supply per box and I've only been taking Cymbalta since April 2011. Initially I counted a few caps & found approx 300 beads in each 30mg cap so I started by removing 30 beads each day for ten days, then each ten days increasing the amount removed by 30 (100 day plan). My tapering plan has been more aggressive in timing than other research suggests & I've been lucky that this hasn't caused any ill effects (there are one or two days each week where I feel a bit dizzy / jetlagged but nothing debilitating). Also, I was not anal with the bead removal, some days the amount removed from each cap may have varied by 5 beads up or down. Once I got to the stage where I was removing half the beads & I only had a few caps left of my blister pack, I purchased some empty gelatin caps & started filling them each day using the beads I had saved from the previous daily removals & have continued with decreasing the amount by 30 beads every ten days. I'm currently down to an intake of 90 beads per day & I'm feeling good. Thanks to everyone else who shared their experiences that helped me to formulate my plan, good luck to everyone else who is in the process :-) Bead counting is laborious but it's worked for me so stick with it!
  24. I am happy to have found this site. As I wean myself off of Cymbalta, I anticipate needing kindred spirits! So far I have been less than happy with the guidance I have received from doctors, pharmacists, nurses, and drug manufacturers. I truly believe we, as patients, need to be our own best advocates. This has never been clearer to me than it is now. I am juggling several health conditions, none life-threatening, that require treatment by different doctors and various medicines, and I will mention some of the more significant ones here.I have ADD, which was diagnosed about ten years ago, for which I take Adderall. I have battled chronic migraines since I was ten (I am 42 now), and after trying many not-very-helpful medicines have found an amazing non-medicine therapy that actually works for me -- wearing an orthotic on my lower teeth to treat TMJ disorder. I am learning how to treat the symptoms of my sleep disorder, idiopathic hypersomnia, which was just diagnosed about three months ago. I have high hopes that the medicine prescribed to treat my sleep problems (Xyrem) will ultimately improve my quality of life. I lose a lot of time to sleep, and the sleep is not restorative. I am very motivated to read a lot about all of my treatments, because I have found out through experience that medical professionals do not always know as much as I presume they do. Learning about Xyrem is the impetus for my discontinuing the Cymbalta, though I had to initiate this myself after discovering the two drugs work against each other. I look forward to reading your stories and getting to know people with similar (or even dissimilar!) experiences. I am on a quest for better quality of life!
  25. Hello, my name is Justin. I injured my ankle 2 years ago and over the course of 4 surgeries, the tibial branch of my sciatic nerve was severed, and I was also diagnosed with Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy. I have received a number of treatments including medications, therapy, sympathetic nerve blocks, and ketamine infusions. I was placed on Cymbalta (along with various other drugs from time to time), eventually taking 60mg each night for the last 9 months. I am currently trying to wean off Cymbalta, taking 30mg/day and experiencing terrible side effects including brain zaps, insomnia, anxiety, restlessness, light headedness, tingling lips, agitation, and lack of focus. My doctors only plan was to take 30mg for a week and then stop, which is impossible. I am trying to figure out how to get off this drug almost entirely on my own and am having extreme difficulty. To compound matters, I've also been taking 10mg percocet for months and am also trying to wean off of that at the same time, which is probably not helping. I've never suffered with depression, but nonetheless I feel borderline depressed with the side effects I'm experiencing trying to get off these medications. It has been extremely disheartening to receive so little guidance from my doctors on how to properly wean off this drug. Clearly taking 30mg for a week and then stopping completely is impossible. At this point I am taking 30mg whenever I feel the symptoms ramp up to the point where I can't stand it anymore, which I'm sure isn't good. I've begun reading the threads here after I found this website on a New York Times article and the information has been great. I would appreciate any guidance from others who are going through the same thing. It's amazing to me how bad my withdrawal is considering I haven't even been on this drug for a full year. But at this point I'm having difficulty thinking of anything except when the next time my side effects are going to flare up. Thank you in advance for any assistance anyone can provide. Justin
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