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  1. Hi, I have been on about 10MG of paxil for around a year now for anxiety and mild depression and I want to get completely off it due to weight issues and elevated liver enzymes. I went to the doctor 2 days ago for advice on tapering and they suggested that I should just go "cold turkey" because I'm on such a "low" dose however I'm not sure if this is a good idea as I herd paxil has pretty crazy withdrawal symptoms. For Now I have broken the 10mg of paxil in half and been taking 5mg for the last 3 days (no withdrawals yet) and I plan to do continue to take the 5mg for another 4 days and then i'll take 2.5 mg for 7 days and then go off it completely. Is this a good idea? thanks
  2. Hello Everyone, I'm very happy to be here! I was on paxilprogress.org years ago, but stopped posting when my posts started getting deleted by the site administrator who did not like that I told my story which involved cold turkey as opposed to tapering. It really made me feel alienated so I stopped online support altogether. I hope this site is different I am not in the place to recommend cold turkey to anyone but I think it's important for everyone's story to be heard as i am not the only one and we appreciate support too Anyways, Im a late 20's female living in California. ​I was prescribed Paxil 10mg and Ativan about 9 years ago after going to my primary care physician when i had my first panic attack. My doctor then had be see a psychiatrist who also prescribed me Wellbutrin. The Wellbutrin made me feel very manic so that stopped quickly. The 10mg of Paxil eventually became 25mg. It was never really explained to me why these drugs were being prescribed as opposed to others, and i was too young to know that I had to be my own medical advocate. Through therapy, i was diagnosed with generalized anxiety and depression. Fast forward to 2013 (7 years after first Paxil dose) and i was not a happy camper. I was no longer noticing a reduction in my anxiety symptoms while at the same time noticed I felt a regular emotional "numb" feeling that was oftentimes mixed with frustration and/or anger. I was frustrated that i felt incapable of feeling the true spectrum of emotions. I was also concerned that i was becoming dependent on the drug as a means to cope, while invariably retarding my own ability to develop coping skills. After trying to taper, I made a conscious decision to quit cold turkey. I wanted to be Paxil-free before my birthday. I told my family and employer what I was up to because, having experiences withdrawal symptoms before, I knew my withdrawal would sometimes be noticeable. ​I also want to mention that marijuana use also was very therapeutic to me during this time. -I know marijuana use can be a controversial topic to some and i want to reiterate that I am just telling my story and what worked for me, not saying that everyone should do what I do. I also live in a city where use is not criminalized and legal to possess and use with doctor prescription. Fast forward to today: I have had a stable supportive relationship for the past 1.5 years, have always been able to support myself through all of this (even through withdrawal) and am happy to be Paxil free I have had a couple panic attacks but have learned how to calm myself and regularly put energy into learning how to cope with my anxiety and depression and move forward with a smile on my face! I don't regret using Paxil, but I wish I would have quit it sooner. It seemed to me that without regular dosage increases, the therapeutic effects of the drug plateaued after the first couple years. Thanks for reading <3
  3. I'm a new member here and am looking for support and community while I continue to taper from Paxil and Ativan. My story is a rather long one, but I will try and keep it short. In 2001 I went to my doctor for advice on quitting smoking. I specifically asked for Zyban, as I had friends who used it and it worked. I was 24 years old. My doctor gave me the prescription and off I went. I took the medication for 3-4 months and stopped c/t. I had no idea that Zyban was actually Wellbutrin and that you aren't suppose to just stop taking an antidepressant. Of course I did realize this until many years later. So the c/t left me with panic attacks, high anxiety, agoraphobia and depersonalization. I obviously thought I had some kind of psychotic break. My parents and fiancé were quite worried. I lost my job be ause i couldn't leave the house and I was worried that we would lose the house we just bought (we didn't). My parents took me to a psychiatrist who "diagnosed" me with Panic, Generalized Anxiety and OCD. That appointment would set me up for 14 years of medication. The psychiatrist prescribed 10mg of Paxil and sent me on my way. I never saw him again. My GP fulfilled my prescription for the next 14 years. After about 6 weeks on Paxil all the awful symptoms go away and I'm so relieved that I actually believed that I did in fact have a chemical imbalance that the medication had/was correcting. Looking back, Paxil just masked/fixed the cold turkey SNRI withdrawal. Fast forward to 2007, I am married and I have 2 beautiful children. I "feel" like I'm happy but at a distance. I feel flat, I've gained a lot of weight (which I attributed to pregnancy), I'm tired/lethargic (chalked up to having young kids) and not overly interested in much at all. At this point I've been telling my doctor for years about these symptoms, along with restless legs/GI distress/headaches, and the dose was continually raised. At one point I was on 60mg (for about 6 months) but mostly spent the years at about 40mg. In 2008 I left my husband. I was a wreck but knew it was the right thing to do. I also had decided I wanted off Paxil to go with my fresh start. I believed the weight gain and lethargy was from the Paxil and was ready to dump it. Over the course of 2 years I "tapered" as per doctors instructions, which always proved to fast. My slowest taper was 6 months. I always had intense symptoms which my doctor told me was my original "condition". Late 2011 I found PaxilProgress and realized what was happening. I was relieved, scared, angry and for te first time in years.....hopeful. Unfortunately, I had just made a large drop from 40mg to 20mg. So I updosed to 30mg and held for 6 months to stabilize. Stabilization eventually happened but it took awhile. By this time I had found a new doctor who supported my new taper plan (10% every 4-6 weeks using a compounding pharmacy). The unfortunate part was that he prescribed me Ativan, as needed, while I was stabilizing. As educated as I had become in AD's I had no clue what benzodiazepines were For two years I took Ativan PRN (2-3x per week) while tapering Paxil. In 15 months I was down to 15mg and functioning relatively well. I was able to continue working, continue all my sports (hockey, yoga), actively engage in parenting, and get married. I was however experiencing a lot of anxiety again, increase in GI upset, blurry vision, dizzy spells, existential thoughts, depression, etc. I figured it was just the natural course of Paxil withdrawal. I figured it was getting harder the lower I got in dose. Hindsight is 20/20 though because I now firmly believe I was having interdose w/d from the Ativan. In Jan 2014 I was hospitalized for a leg injury and prescribed 2mg Ativan DAILY as a (leg) muscle relaxer and to sleep. The day after my discharge I experienced the most horrific w/d. For me, Paxil w/d was a walk in the park compared to being cold turkeyed off a benzo. I was flooded with suicide ideation, I couldn't stop crying, heavy DP/DR, incredible muscle tension, migraines, vibrations, tremors, undulating, sweats, agoraphobia, panic attacks....the list is endless. My doctor immediately told me to start taking my Ativan everyday like the hospital had done. In his defence, he was afraid for me, and didn't know what to do. He wanted me to go back up to 30mg on my Paxil and I refused. So here I am.....a year later. I stabilized back on the Ativan, found BenzoBuddies and I've tapered from 2mg to .37mg of Ativan and it's been a much bigger challenge than my Paxil taper ever was. I feel weary, battle fatigued and plain old worn out. My Paxil taper has been on hold for the last year so I am still at 15mg. I'm terrified of what my future holds. Suffering is getting really tiring. I guess I shouldn't have tried to quit smoking!!! Lol.
  4. Hi everyone - My anxiety story starts in 2008, when I was just a high school freshman. I don't remember my first panic attack exactly, probably because I had no words to describe what was happening to me. I suffered through daily panic attacks for four years before I worked up the courage to tell my parents and ask to see a doctor. He prescribed me 20mg Paxil in 2012, at the end of my senior year, and it definitely helped. I started college panic-free and I was able to get my driver's license in 2013. After two years of minimal panic my doctor suggested I start tapering off of Paxil - the schedule he gave me was alternating 20mg and 10mg for a week, then 10mg every day for a week, then 10mg every other day, and then cold turkey! I stupidly believed him, and after two days on the 20mg/10mg schedule I couldn't take it anymore, so I went up to 15mg and stayed there. I did pretty well on 15mg, so over the course of the next few months I went down to 10mg, and then 7.5mg. In January of this year both my cat and my brother very nearly died (kitty had a blood clot, brother had bad pneumonia), and that stress coupled with the stress of a new semester made me have a mental breakdown around my 21st birthday. I increased my dose to 10mg and it definitely helped, and after surviving the semester I went back down to 7.5mg. Today I'm at 5mg (and I've been at that dose for about 2 months), but I think my anxiety is starting to come back. I have bad anxiety whenever I drive and I try to avoid the highway when I can. I'm also something of a hypochondriac which doesn't help matters at all! I'm considering going back up to 7.5mg to see if that helps me. I'm also considering starting CBT (or some kind of therapy at least) once school starts again and I have access to those services. Thanks for reading!
  5. Hi, I'm here seeking help after I've come to a realization that my mind is not something to treat recklessly. After a bout of depersonalization, derealization, depression and all around apathy, I decided that I could handle withdrawal from a cold-turkey method of discontinuation -- after all, my perception of reality has been quite flat as of late. Wrong. I made the mistake of outright discontinuing my SSRI a week or two ago. The symptoms hit me hard today. I thought self-medicating with cannabis would be fine, totally normal. But in my opinion, and in my case, this has led to a self-destructive, cocky way of thinking. My position in life is not one that would allow for me to safely use recreational drugs on a regular basis and disregard the responsibilities I need to tend to in order to feel like I'm living a fulfilled life. I have come to believe the objectively best course of action I could take is to discontinue all recreational drug use and re-instate my SSRI, then committing to a slow taper. My lack of education on what constitutes a proper taper has made doing this difficult for me in the past. This is not the first time I've tried withdrawing. However, I have the wisdom now of knowing that there is no magic way out of it. On the subject of what I know about withdrawing -- I understand that using pill cutters and creating your own liquid version of your medicine can be helpful, but I am not sure of how to make sure I am dosing properly, or have the correct version of the pill for creating a liquid form. I was hoping I could find more direction in this area. One thing I am concerned about is re-instating my SSRI usage after roughly 2 weeks of discontinuation. How can I safely do this? Thanks, ikari
  6. Hello everyone! I just wanted to introduce myself and get some insight. I know you guys read story after story, and I could explain all the brutal details of my suffering, but I have a feeling most of you already know so, I will try to make this short. For context, I am now 28 years old. At 13 years of age, my parents were going through a divorce and I was put on Paxil for panic disorder (after a couple of anxiety attacks). I was left on it and no one ever thought to try and take me off. I lived 10 years on Paxil and was happy and healthy (I didn't really have life to compare it to though - so who knows if I was really as healthy as I could have been). At 23 years old, I got pregnant and decided to get off the Paxil cold turkey. I'll let you imagine how that went The actual withdrawals probably lasted a couple of weeks, but then I moved into protracted withdrawal. I had no idea at this time what was going on. I knew nothing about SSRI's and just thought as I was going through copious amounts of stress and anxiety. And honestly, I think the pregnancy hormones actually helped my symptoms. After I had my daughter things became unbearable. I was diagnosed with Hashimotos (autoimmune thyroid condition) and lived the next three years, from ages 24-26 bedridden, agoraphobic, 110 pounds. At this time, I still didn't connect this to the Paxil. I badges off meds by this time, for three years. I blamed everything on my thyroid condition and spent hours upon hours researching thyroid/adrenal fatigue. At some point, I felt so hopeless and suicidal that I allowed a dr to put me back on the Paxil. And wouldn't you know... Within a few months, my body was being to make progress for the first time in years. I won't lie, the break from my hell was amazing. I began to finally make the connection to what happened in my life. I don't feel like I did the first 10 years I was on Paxil. I now have that extremely flat mood and am still dealing with some cortisol issues from the damage the cold turkey created in my body. I have been back in the Paxil for two years now, and finally have put all the puzzle pieces together. At this time, I would like to start a SLOW taper. I know that I read that someone did a four year taper successfully and didn't deal with withdrawal. I've lived that he'll and I don't want to ever go back. Here are my questions: 1. Does my experience sound like protracted withdrawal? 2. What is a loooong taper someone might suggest? I already have a rx for liquid Paxil 3. When I got off cold turkey my cortisol flatlined. Will this happen again if I withdraw slowly? 4. Thinking far down the line, but at some point I would like to have another child. Is it possible to wean for a few years and then hold at whatever dose I'm at during pregnancy (hopefully under 5mcg) and then begin tapering again after baby? I know this isn't ideal but I don't know if I can wait four years... Thank you for taking the time to read this. I'm stable now on Paxil 20mcg but ready to start my taper. Lindsay
  7. Hi everyone! Well, here is my story ... I am a 21 year old female, and I have been on Paxil since I was 6 years old, and have maintained on about 40-60mg ever since. I was put on Paxil due to my anxiety disorder and OCD, as I refused to eat in a school cafeteria and would be in a sheer panic everyday about going to school. Apparently they tried to put me on Zoloft at some point early on, but it gave me headaches and nausea, so that is why Paxil was chosen. The Paxil worked wonders for me, and I was able to go to school and live a very normal and happy childhood. In 2010, I was diagnosed with Chronic Lyme disease that was making me feel pretty ill. I saw a Lyme specialist in 2011, and he suggested that I stop taking Paxil. It was attempted to switch my medication to another SSRI (I do not remember what it was), and I ended up with Serotonin Syndrome and had to go to the hospital. While following one Lyme doctor's protocol, I was taking over 25 pills and supplements a day, and I accidentally forgot to take my Paxil for a few days in a row. As you all probably know, I began experiencing severe withdrawl from stopping my medication cold-turkey. I could barely stand up unsupported, I had severe dizziness and nausea, I was light-headed and weepy, and I didn't eat for about three days, I just layed in my bed in the dark and slept and cried. My mom thought that I may have been experiencing what is called a "Herxheimer Reaction," which is a periodic exacerbation of symptoms in response to treatment. We later realized that I had been off of my medication for about 3-5 days, and I immediately started taking my Paxil again and was feeling back to my old self within a day. I experienced some depression and anxiety when my Lyme was diagnosed, and my Paxil dosage was raised to about 80mg for a time. I also experienced some patterns of disordered eating while on some strict diets to help my Lyme's, but for the past 3 or 4 years, I have basically been anxiety and depression free. Anyways! I was talking to my Psychiatrist this week, and I mentioned how I have been trying to lose some weight, as I have become quite unhappy with my body. She mentioned that Paxil may very well be causing my metabolism to be slow, and suggested I switch to Lexapro. Thinking ahead about 6-8 years, I asked her if Lexapro would be something I would be able to take during pregnancy one day, as I already knew Paxil would not be safe for having children one day. She said that when I want to have children, I would probably be switched to Zoloft, so I suggested that we just start there, instead of making me change medication again, to which she agreed. I am a bit scared of switching from Paxil to Zoloft, due to the bad experience I had when forgetting to take my medication before, as well as the experience with Serotonin Syndrome. I am afraid of experiencing withdrawl, and all of the horror stories I have heard about. I am also scared that if the Zoloft doesn't work from me or I am having a hard time, that I will try to go back on Paxil and it will not work anymore. So I joined this site to hopfully learn about anyone else's experience with changing from Paxil to another medication, specifically Zoloft. So far, here is the plan.... Week 1: Drop 10mg of Paxil (watch for withdrawl) 30mg Paxil morning, 10mg Paxil night Week 2: Add Zoloft (watch for reaction to Zoloft) 30mg Paxil morning, 10mg Paxil and 25mg Zoloft night Week 3: 20mg Paxil morning, 10mg Paxil and 50mg Zoloft night Week 4: 20mg Paxil morning, 75mg Paxil night Week 5: 10mg Paxil and 50mg Zoloft morning, 50mg Zoloft night
  8. Hello. I'm Carmen and I am 55 years old. I live in Kansas City, MO. I have been married for 32 years. I have a very supportive husband and family. I was so happy to find this group at a time when I need it most. This is a long story but I'm going to condense it as much as I can. As you can see from my signature, this past year has been a whirlwind of medication changes. I was first prescribed Paxil in 1998 because I was stressed and depressed from dealing with my (then) 13 year old daughter. She was also prescribed Paxil. We both felt better awhile, but after a few months the medication seemed to stop working for both of us. We both did a very rapid taper and suffered some pretty severe withdrawal symptoms, including "brain zaps". In April, 2014. I had outpatient surgery to have a new pain pump installed. (I already had a pain pump since 2008 but it was time to change it for a new one). After surgery I was fine. I went home and felt pretty good until the next day. I woke up in the morning feeling sick and shaky so I went back to bed. I had a hard time getting out of bed for 3 days. I had most of the symptoms of withdrawal so my husband took me to the pain clinic. At that time, we were thinking my pump was not working right. My pain management doctor tested my pump and told me it was working fine. He was pretty sure that my problem was anxiety so he prescribed Klonopin. We went home and I took a whole pill and slept for 36 hours, almost straight through. I felt much better after that episode and I felt pretty good until August. Another episode of all the same symptoms left me unable to function for 5 days. It was then that I had to seek out psychiatric care. I had been having these episodes at least once a month and they would last from one to three days. My Paxil taper in November was very rough because I was still having episodes, plus going through withdrawal from tapering too fast. I have not had an episode since March 30 but I am going through withdrawals from the 10mg Paxil I was put on last March. I have been breaking the pills into halves and quarters. The first week after a drop has not been bad. Just a little nausea and dizziness off and on. The second week has been when the symptoms increase and get worse. Last time I was able to make another drop after 3 weeks. That will not be happening this time. It will be 3 weeks this Friday and I'm still not feeling well. I want to feel well for at least a week before attempting another decrease. My psychiatrist (who is new for me) had suggested half pills for 2 or 3 weeks and then skipping every other day. I told her that wasn't working. I need a much slower taper. Luckily, she is not going to rush me. She told me there is no hurry. Buspar has been helping. I have been needing to take Klonopin more often lately because that is the only thing that helps when I get shaky. I'm trying really hard not to take it much because I don't want to get dependent on it. I have been reading in here for weeks so I decided it was time to post my story. Thank you for reading! Carmen
  9. A look at how GlaxoSmithKline suppressed clinical trial information regarding their antidepressant drug, Paxil The secret emails you weren't supposed to see. The paper trail which reveals how the results of drug trials were glossed over. The cover up with links to suicide in teenagers. A Panorama Documentary: Paxil Study 329
  10. Hi, I was in PaxilProgress and most people from there came here, so I decided to join. I am scared because after 6 months from my last panic attack I had another one today, totally out of the blue. The only factor with the previous incidents is that I had food poisoning. I had to take a Xanax to calm down but I vomited after 30 minutes. I feel effects though. I am scared that I will relapse and get as bad as I was in 2012. I had rebuilt my life, I got a job, I got another job because I was suffering from mobbing on the first job, and I will start my new job soon, I can't relapse and ruin my chance, I need this job. I can't be on bed for a whole month. I am really scared of ending up taking a bunch of pills to function. I need help and reassurance. I have no family I can count on, my mom is dead, so in my grandma, and my dad doesn't speak to me because he has another family. Sorry if I am writing with typos I feel very sleepy and drowsy. I don't know what to do, I can feel the anxiety in my chest, I can feel that it can't grow due to the Xanax, I am scared that tomorrow I will have to take more Xanax and become dependent of it to function. Please help me, I am scared and I thought this part of my life was gone, but now it had come back.
  11. Greetings to all members of this community... I am a new member. Unfortunately, I have joined this forum during a time of personal crisis, as I assume is often the case. Before requesting your advice and input on my current predicament, I would like to make it clear that I fully intend to participate in this community as a source of comfort and support when my personal experience is relevant, not just a beneficiary of the comfort and support that I have noticed is such a defining aspect of the courageous individuals that define this community. In the fall of 1999 during the first semester of my first year in University, I saw a Psych and I was diagnosed with OCD (Mostly Pure O) and panic disorder and prescribed Paxil. I'm hoping my medication history appears as a signature once I post this discussion, I included it while signing up. In a nutshell, after 15 years on Paxil my psych believes I've reached tolerance and wants me to switch to another medication. I am extremely concerned about this. First of all, I always intended to ween myself "properly" off paxil one day, regardless of how long it took to succeed. Unfortunately, this has to be the worst relapse I have ever experienced; my anxiety and OCD are terrible, I'm very depressed, I feel extremely depersonalized, and I'm really lacking focus and concentration. I literally feel like I'm losing my mind. Because of the way I feel, my main objective at the moment is simply to feel better. This has always been my main focus during past relapses, however, the one significant difference this time around and a major addition to my anxiety is the fear that now consumes me regarding the length of time and long term effects of being on an SSRI. It may not mean too much with regards to the long term damage I've most likely suffered, but I always took a little comfort in knowing that the first psychotropic drug (Paxil) I was prescribed had worked and remained the only one I'd ever been on. I had always felt for sufferers who had been through the chemical gambit of multiple SSRI's, SNRI's, Benzo's and other drugs, desperate for just a little salvation. To wrap this up, what clearly concerns me the most at the moment is the lack of clarity in mental health with regards to next steps. Notwithstanding my strong intention to get off this crap one day, what I'm hoping for at the moment is advice and input as to what you guys believe is the quickest and smartest option for me to reach mental stability. I just want to feel somewhat sane again. Below is a list of options that I've compiled, the first two were received as "professional" advice. Please feel free to ignore them all if you favour an additional option. 1. Stop the Paxil cold turkey and immediately switch to another SSRI or SNRI the next day - My Psych's preference 2. Increase the Paxil to 40mg, then to 50mg if necessary - A 2nd opinion I sought from my family doctor 3. Gradually withdrawal off the Paxil while starting and gradually increasing a new medication at the same time - Information I came across. 4. Add Wellbutrin as an add-on medication to help boost the Paxil's effect and deal with the depression component - Information I came across. 5. Just stop the Paxil and withdrawal properly - Not sure how I'd feel better any time soon with this option Thank you in advance for any advice and/or comforting support. Cheers
  12. Hi all, I'm so happy I found this site! After experiencing absolutely horrible anxiety/OCD and extreme insomnia (literally didn't sleep a second for more than a week), I was put on Paxil 5mg and Trazodone + Ativan to help me sleep. I was able to get off the Ativan quite quickly and weaned the Trazodone down to the lowest dose (50). After a few months on that, I decided with my psychiatrist that it was time to wean off the Paxil. I did a month at .25 mg and had no problems so I thought it'd be easy to go completely off. Not the case at all! It's been 5.5 weeks now and all of my anxiety/OCD and insomnia are back. I'm feeling so hurt, disappointed, confused, and just plain sad. My psych OKed going back on the Ativan + 150mg of the Trazodone. I have an appointment with her Monday to discuss going back on an SSRI. I would love some advice on this. How long to ride this low wave before going back on something? Since I'm off, is it best to stay off? The Paxil really did help but I'm proud of myself for being off, so should I ride this low wave? How long do these symptoms last, in everyone's opinion? Just looking for support and encouragement. I'm so thankful this site and you all exist!
  13. WinstonWolf

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    Hi, I've been reading post for a week now and decided to chime in. My a/d history is way longer than shown in my signature. I've been on about 12 different a/d's over 20 years. I have come to the realization that these things don't work long term and don't work for everybody. I will be completely off the celexa in about 2-3 weeks and know it's going to be tough. My doctor told me that w/d effects only last about 1 week! I know this to be false as do all of you reading this. I understand why the dr is saying this though. She can't afford to be truthful. Being truthful could do two things that she wouldn't want. First, it could cause me to freak out and she therefore wants to downplay the effects as a way to lessen the chances that I'll compound the situation. Secondly, she is protecting the profession that has served her for many years (to admit that w/d can last way longer and have negative effects that are many, she is admitting her profession is flawed). I explained that I want out and she said it's a good idea…what? She said she never saw any improvement on the meds so why not see how going off works for me. She followed that with "you will need to go back on eventually". I am so hoping to prove her wrong but time will tell. WW p.s: I am still keeping a supply of klonopin (as needed) and ambien (been on nightly for 5 years). I figure these can be tapered later (if at all).
  14. After a brief trial of Prozac & Luvox , Paxil at 40 mg worked for my OCD in 2005 as a 16 year old. By 2007 40mg had pooped out on me and after a terrible trial of clomipramine , 60 mg Paxil worked for me. It's then I read Brain Lock , which totally changed my OCD game for the better . It was also around this time that I developed a reading difficulty( which continues till today) which I believed were caused by all the meds and I went from 60 - 0 in bout 2 months. It was only 3 months later that I found Paxilprogress and understood the gravity of my foolishness. Being an Indian, I tried my hand at a Herbal Ayurvedic product Himalaya's 'Mentat' and it worked great ! Gave me the focus and stress reduction and learning power required to swim though withdrawal. So I took it from 2009 to 2012 .Stopping it wasn't easy and slowly my focus, memory was in the dumps and I started getting Depressed. OCD was controllable but did add to the overall stress .By early 2014 I started getting in deep trouble . I tried my hand at doing some brain games at Lumosity and that resulted in terrible 'detached' kind of feelings and later extreme brain fatigue. The biggest shock was that I cant seem to go back Mentat or any of those herbs (Bacopa, Ashwangandha) without developing overwhelming mental fatigue, even in small doses. It seems that there seems to be no choice but to go back to my doc ( after 6 years) and trying an SSRI . My productivity , motivation , pleasure , focus is all a big 0 for the last 6 months. It seems that I have strength to give 1 month of trial to try ANYTHING other than Paxil . preferably Zoloft . Should I be requesting that to the doc? I have done 3 years with only Fish oil , and intend to do that again. Paxil seems to be the worst If I want to do that.
  15. I am currently withdrawing from Paxil. Did a too fast taper, crashed bad, and have reinstated. I seem to be somewhat (compared to being out of my mind) stabilized after 3 months of reinstatement. However, my daily routine aside from poor sleep quality, is that I feel very anxious with panic barely under control from about 5:00 AM until noon'ish. The rest of the day I am functional and actually have periods where I feel almost normal. Does anybody experiencing Paxil (or any SSRI) withdrawal have this symptom pattern? Before using Paxil I never had any of these symptoms. I took it for mild seasonal depression annually for 4 months. Each year it was harder and harder to get off. I should have paid closer attention.
  16. Scary: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/heart-failure-can-reversed-using-5276590
  17. I have finally decided to start a journal to set some goals for the New Year and to hopefully find some hope in any progress I make. Long first post, but I think I need to get it all out there to get some perspective back in my life. I started having panic attacks in 1999 and spent the next five years barely leaving the house. I chose to suffer in silence, being too scared to go to a doctor and too ashamed and embarrassed to look elsewhere for help. During that time I gave birth to my two daughters and was married to my ex-husband, who seemed easily to ignore the fact there was clearing something wrong with me. Finally in December 2003 I visited my GP for help. My sister was getting married at the other end of the country in 6 weeks time and I knew it was going to be a huge problem having to fly there. The doctor prescribed me 20mg Aropax (Paxil) and referred me to a therapist nearby. Within a couple of weeks I felt a huge improvement in my panic attacks and was extremely grateful to my new friend Paxil. I saw the therapist three times before the wedding and felt it was a waste of time. He gave me a sheet of positive affirmations and kept asking why I wasn't very close to my family. Over the next 9 years I was taking the same dose and felt I completely had my life back. I had no side-effects physical or psychological but looking back I was still using the avoidance strategies and was not really getting out much. Two young children and no money seemed to explain that away at the time. There were several different doctors at the practice and a couple of them suggested I came off the meds, while others assured me I could stay on for life since it was working so well. The first time I tried to come off I gave up after 3 months because I couldn't get past the dizziness and vertigo. The doctor changed me to Prozac and suggested that would make it easier to come off the paxil. It worked and I was off quickly and without side-effects. The only problem was the first panic attack that came along and I raced back for a new prescription. During the 9 years I came off for 3,5 and 9 months only to go back on as soon as the panic attacks started again. Finally at the end of 2012 the doctor thought putting me straight onto Prozac would be short cut so I didn't need to change again if I wanted to come off. I had a bad reaction to it this time and the activating effects gave me intense panic attacks that seemed to go on for hours. When I went back she told me to persevere and things would settle down. They didn't and after one night with a 6 hour panic attack I was pretty much resigned to telling my new husband that I was a mental case and taking my own life. Yes even though I was now happily married again after ditching the first loser I had not told my husband about my anxiety or that I was taking medication. I rang the local hospital mental health service and made an appointment to see my first psychiatrist. He promptly put me on 40mg Paxil and told me the GPs were idiots, although in all fairness he referred me to the CBT team there and I learnt a lot from the psychologist. The increase to 40mg gave me a lot of side effects and I suddenly realised from the mania and alcoholism it produced that these were very powerful and scarey drugs. I dropped straight back to 20mgs and I found Paxil Progress and started to taper steadily over the next 12 months using the 10% method (for the most part). So here I am 8 months after finally reaching 0mg. The panic attacks started again by the time I got down to 5mg so I have been using all the CBT I have learnt to fight them off for the last 12 months. I'm just not feeling like I am winning at this point. A couple of weeks ago I had a setback and reacted really poorly when I had to go to a workshop for work to a large city an hour away, through the morning peak hour traffic. Instead of calming myself down when I hit the bumper to bumper traffic I took an off-ramp and drove around lost for an hour in a right state! I drove all the way back to where I had gotten on the motorway and drove again into the city, by now the traffic had cleared a bit and I embarrassingly snuck into the workshop very late. Now the anxiety/agoraphobia is triggering off all the time and I feel so disappointed and exhausted from battling it. I am writing this journal to set myself the goal of staying med free for the next 12 months and to beat this terrible cycle of the panic. Some days I don't know what is the original condition and what is still remnants of my years on the drugs. I'm scared and anxious and only just hanging in there! I hope this journal works to show me I am making progress and to give me hope!
  18. Sigh...where do I start. I had my last child at 29 years old in 1989 and got postpartum quite badly. I refused antidepressants for almost a year, when although I was slowly getting better, I decided to try. I felt wonderful in two weeks, but that deception was the start of what has ruined my life. I think it was 1994 0r 1995 that I started paxil. After a unsuccessful cold turkey in 1996, where I had a severe anxiety attack it took Drs. 30 mins trying diff. meds to stop it. I have been scared of trying again....other than little tapers. Then back up again after a stressfull event in case I relapsed. Silly I know. In 2009 I lost my business, home and my financial security and found myself on government assistance. Then in 2010 at 49 I was diagnosed with MS. I changed my diet drastically for the good and have gone down a bit in my Paxil from 35mg to 22.5mg in this three years since MS, my last drop was in April and I still don't feel ready to drop again. I have to get off of Paxil because I am not doing as good as I should with all I am doing for my MS. Plus it is POISON! Having sensitivities because of both MS and withdrawal, it is going to be a difficult challenge. Ok, that was difficult guys....lol. Cheers, Lynne
  19. Saw this on the news tonight and looked up an article on it. On Friday the FDA approved Brisdelle for moderate to severe hot flashes. Brisdelle is low dose paroxetine or Paxil. The committee that studied it recommended against approving it ... but the FDA thought it was a good idea. This is marketed to women who are afraid of cancer due to hormone replacement therapy - I wonder if they bother to tell the patients that there is a risk of withdrawal syndrome when they no longer have hot flashes. http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jun/28/science/la-sci-fda-antidepressant-hot-flashes-20130628 I think this is a really BAD idea. I predict that over some time we will see more visitors to our site looking for help getting off of Brisdelle ... very sad. Karma
  20. Hi everyone, I just joined so I think my account is still being approved... My history is below. I am trying to get off both Paxil and Klonopin. Basically I find that Paxil relaxes me not stimulates me... so my pdoc suggested the benzo taper first. Has anyone else found that to be the case for them? Also, she wants me to taper 25% a month on the Klonopin (I think 10%) is better. Your thoughts? Lastly, she also wanted me to updose my Paxil from 20mg to 30mg since she thinks that will help with my Klonopin taper. Three days ago, I started my updose on Paxil -- and now by reading the postings on your site and paxilprogess, I think that was a big mistake. Can I just cut the 10mg since I've only updosed for 3 days on Paxil -- or do I need to taper from 30mg to 20mg? Suggestions? Also can I taper both at the same time or do I do one and then the other. If I do one and then the other, how long should I wait to stabilize before I can taper the other? I appreciate your comments in advance. Best, Samone -- HISTORY 1989-2012 Self Medicated with Marijuana 10/12 Ovarian Cancer Surgery and quite MJ C/T 12/12-4/13 Chemo 12/12 started 10mg Paxil 12/12 started 1mg Klonopin 3/13 20mg Paxil 3/13 2mg Klonopin 6/13, 1/14, 3/14 failed taper both 5/14 tapered again STUPIDLY this time by 50% each since I began to run out both & did not want to C/T - got terrible s/x 6/14-7/11 went to ER 3 times - didn't know what was happening 7/14 Reinstated Paxil back to 20mg and Klonopin to 1.5 mg 8/14 still having sleep, GI side effects, anxiety, depression, etc. 8/10/14 new pdoc suggested to up Paxil dose to 30mg 8/12/14 decided to stop updose on Paxil What do I do?
  21. From the Fiddaman Blog: A Message From the UK Serious Fraud Office GlaxoSmithKline plc investigation 27 May 2014 The Director of the SFO has opened a criminal investigation into the commercial practices of GlaxoSmithKline plc and its subsidiaries. Whistleblowers are valuable sources of information to the SFO in its cases. We welcome approaches from anyone with inside information on all our cases including this one - we can be contacted through our secure and confidential reporting channel, which can be accessed via the SFO website. Bob Fiddaman writes "I actually went out and purchased a bottle of wine last night on the strength of this latest news.... ...The MHRA's four year investigation into GlaxoSmithKline failed on a catastrophic level. Alistair Benbow, who was then Head of European Psychiatry at GSK, claimed on National TV that Seroxat could be safe in children even though his company did not have a licence to recommend it to children. All the SFO need to do is request disclosure from GSK. Emails, documents and, more importantly, the notes taken by GSK's pharmaceutical reps during their visits to doctors and psychiatrists. Did Glaxo's UK reps offer the same incentives to British doctors as GSK's American, Chinese, Polish and Iraqi reps did? Once they have these in their possession then I'm sure they will be able to retrace who said what and who they said it to.... ...The SFO will, no doubt, face tough opposition from the current UK government. Deals may be struck given that Glaxo's chairman, Andrew Witty, and the current Prime Minister, David Cameron, are friends and business acquaintances. One thing is certain though. The eyes of the world are watching." Read more here: http://fiddaman.blogspot.ie/2014/05/a-message-from-uk-serious-fraud-office.html
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