marie123 Posted June 16, 2022 Author Share Posted June 16, 2022 Hello. I learned something today about meniscus tears. When you are young and get a tear your blood supply goes to the knee and heals the meniscus. Guess what happens when you are old? No blood goes to the meniscus so it will never heal. My physical therapist said "it becomes a fossil". Lol. You can make the ligaments and tendons around it stronger. This will help it feel better (less pain). I've read a lot about bad knees and losing a lot of weight helps immensely. So this is what I will do. It's not a maybe for me. Withdrawal makes you tough as nails. Chessie when I first hurt my knee 2 months ago I was limping pretty badly for a week or two. Slowly it improved and I can walk without a limp. The knee feels uncomfortable and achy at times. I just use a nice heating pad. I can walk on it now without much pain. Time and physical therapy is working. It's very slow though.I can do these at home and you can find these exercises online like leg lifts, etc. I do not take any med for this including ibuprofen. We all know why. I want to see how good I can heal it with time, PT and patience (weight loss too). I can always get a gel shot but I need to research more. No cortisone shots for me. I saw a top orthopedist/surgeon who told me he has these tears in his knee too and had a lot of pain. The doc said it was painful walking up the stairs in his house. He said to wear cushioned shoes/sneakers with memory foam even in your home. I do this and it definitely helps. He took off his shoe and showed me his gel heal pad insert. Slippers should have good foam support. Do not walk barefoot. He got a gel shot too. The doc is older like me and he says he is able to run now, but he must continue to do his leg lifts three times a week. He says the idea is to try to do the best with it on your own and avoid surgical interventions. Surgery can make things worse eventually so you would need a knee replacement. No thanks. My older sister hurt her knee and told me one year later it's better but not completely (no tears). Knees take a while until there's a lot of improvement. Marie. 1 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
marie123 Posted June 24, 2022 Author Share Posted June 24, 2022 Hello everyone. It's important to post positives here when they happen. Last time I posted that I was going to buy a dress size smaller for new pants. I got them today, I tried them on and they fit nicely. So it can be done losing weight on Mirt. Good for me. My knee is making some good progress too with physical therapy. Another benefit is I really exercise there so it's helping my whole body. My tooth comes out next friday. Since I think I will be feeling poorly anyways with the antibiotic and soreness, I may cut a small amount since this cut is not so bad. I might be dragged to a concert since I really do not want to go after an extraction. I like to just rest and lounge about (maybe feel sorry for myself/mourn my tooth loss) afterwards. I'll cut after the concert. I'll get some pretty new teeth eventually though, another positive. I'm going to really try to get down another dress size over the summer. I think I can do it. I'll keep going. Be well. Marie. 2 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
marie123 Posted June 24, 2022 Author Share Posted June 24, 2022 Well now I have to deal with this tooth infection. I can't wait for Wed. for my extraction so I called the dentist office for a script of A/Bs. I feel worse today like I'm coming down with something. Hubby picks up the script and it is Cipro. I am not sure I want to take it. I guess the dentist feels since he gave me clindamycin a couple weeks ago, he'll try Cipro since it's stronger? Well my infection is worse because I have been waiting weeks for this tooth to be removed. I could get it pulled quicker by some run of the mill dentist, but this guy is good. He's very careful, makes sure I'm comfortable, and takes the tooth out gently. I left a message for him to call me so I can perhaps change it to something else. When I was young I would take Cipro all the time for UTI's. Anyone use Cipro during w/d from meds? Marie. 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
savinggrace Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Marie, I took a lot of fluorquinolones for frequent sinus infections until I realized that were causing me withdrawal symptoms. They are neuro-toxic. I would ask for something else for sure. No antibiotics are great, but fluroquinolones are known to cause these problems. Grace amitriptyline from 1980-2002, intermittent use of benzos over 2 decades prior to 2002 2002-2010 Klonopin 1-2 mg., ambien 10--20, mg, remeron 4 mg. and trileptal 300 mg 2011 Stopped ambien and crossed over to valium 17.5 mg. (updosing 2.5 mg. to cover ambien C/T ) tapered valium w/ long holds to 12.74 mg. from a high of approximately 20-30 mg/day 2015-present tapered trileptal aggressively for a year; now intermittently; interacts w/ other drugs currently 2024 still on 96 mg. trileptal and 4 mg. remeron Currently on benzo hold as I have to cross-over from brand-name valium to generic diazepam. Current dose of diazepam is 8.8 and valium is 5.7. I had to up-dose the total valium/diazepam from 12.74 to 14.5 where I have stayed since June 2023. I am crossing over to generic at a somewhat tolerable rate of .3mg/month after about 2 months of trial/error w/ updosing. I am not currently tapering; will continue to cross over. Link to comment
marie123 Posted June 24, 2022 Author Share Posted June 24, 2022 Hi Grace. Thanks for stopping by. Since I am allergic to penicillin my choices are slim, and I already took clindamycin a couple weeks ago. Dentist does not want to give me that now because I recently had it so it won't work as well. He said if I get a reaction he will change it up. Nervous about it but I am going to take the cipro. I remember it really knocked out infection when I took it. I haven's taken cipro in about 15 years. If w/d symptoms get much worse I will stop. I am stable now so I will notice. I know one thing is that we put up with a lot of "discomfort" during withdrawal. Flagyl A/B is the worst I've tried. That stuff made my feet start tingling and not in a good way so I stopped it. Doc was not happy but tough. I'm going to take it nice and easy this week coming and give myself lots of distractions. I'm good at that. Marie. 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
savinggrace Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Hi Marie, Having endured about 2 decades of chronic sinusitis and 3 surgeries, I had way more than my share of Cipro along with other fluroquinolones. I am in a position that there is no safe antibiotics for me. I took amoxicillin a year ago and it gave me POTS symptoms for 6 months. I suspect you will do fine with the Cipro. I was just warning you in case you had a choice. I am amazed at how much dental work/infections etc. you have endured while tapering. Hope it goes well. Grace amitriptyline from 1980-2002, intermittent use of benzos over 2 decades prior to 2002 2002-2010 Klonopin 1-2 mg., ambien 10--20, mg, remeron 4 mg. and trileptal 300 mg 2011 Stopped ambien and crossed over to valium 17.5 mg. (updosing 2.5 mg. to cover ambien C/T ) tapered valium w/ long holds to 12.74 mg. from a high of approximately 20-30 mg/day 2015-present tapered trileptal aggressively for a year; now intermittently; interacts w/ other drugs currently 2024 still on 96 mg. trileptal and 4 mg. remeron Currently on benzo hold as I have to cross-over from brand-name valium to generic diazepam. Current dose of diazepam is 8.8 and valium is 5.7. I had to up-dose the total valium/diazepam from 12.74 to 14.5 where I have stayed since June 2023. I am crossing over to generic at a somewhat tolerable rate of .3mg/month after about 2 months of trial/error w/ updosing. I am not currently tapering; will continue to cross over. Link to comment
marie123 Posted June 25, 2022 Author Share Posted June 25, 2022 I know Grace too many of them. Both of my parents had terrible teeth so I think it's hereditary. These meds are bad for teeth too as you know. Marie. 1 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
marie123 Posted July 2, 2022 Author Share Posted July 2, 2022 Hello. I had my tooth extracted on Wednesday. When I got to my appointment my oral surgeon was switched. I have to be honest, it rattled me some. I have some dental fear so I like to stay with trusted doctors. She was excellent though and very reassuring. Maybe I scared my dentist off with my nervousness. He was much better with injections. They hurt some but were not bad at all. The oral surgeon's injections who did mine last week hurt, especially the one in the upper palate and still does. Next week I get the stitches out. I did go to an outdoor concert the night of the extraction since the novacaine and ibuprofen killed the pain. I had a good time. Since I have lost weight and my knee is almost better I've noticed my gait has changed as I try to walk correctly. My posture is better so everything else has to get aligned I guess. I will cut after a 4th of July party on Monday. My mouth hurts anyways so I'll give me a bit more misery. That will put me at 3.3 mg, and maybe I can sneak another one in at the end of the month. I am stable at the current dose. I must lose more weight. It's harder to do now since I am on a soft diet. Next doctor visits I will make for a colonoscopy (first one) and dermatologist (mole removal near eye) then I am done for a while. I bought some lavender mini roses and a bicolor red one too. Good distractions, now I have to figure where to plant them. Be well. Marie 2 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
marie123 Posted July 8, 2022 Author Share Posted July 8, 2022 Hello. I have finished with the Cipro A/B and I am fine. I won't make a habit of asking for it when I get an infection though. I cut my Mirt dose four days ago by a small .1 mg. Now I am down to 3.3 mg Mirt. This cut has been easy for the most part. Lighter symptoms of fatigue, knee aches, dizziness. I'll make another small cut in a couple weeks. Maybe as I go lower in dose the symptoms of w/d will be lessening. Certainly the side effects are lower. I am more awake and I am losing weight. That is something. Edema has gone down a lot so I'm not so puffy and my ankles have stopped hurting. I want to go out to more places. I am more encouraged as I move further along. There is a feeling of accomplishment of where I was and where I am now. I am not done, I am a work in progress. I'll keep going. Marie. 1 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
Mirtazapine20mg Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 40 minutes ago, marie123 said: That is something. Edema has gone down a lot so I'm not so puffy and my ankles have stopped hurting. I am so happy for you Marie. I have read a great deal of your posts, because I also have edema problem on mirtazapine. It gives me hope to read that it is slowly getting better for you. And it soothes my nerves to read that it is mirtazapine related in your case. Then it maybe also is in my case. Thank you for your detailed descriptions. 1 2004: (apr): Citalopram 20 mg, June 60 mg., dec 20 mg 2004 (dec): Mirtazapine 15 mg. 2014 (Jun): Citalopram stop cold turkey. Began 10 mg Vortioxetine 2017: (dec): Mirtazapine 15 mg ->30 mg (after three day stint on psych ward) 2020: (aug): Vortioxetine 10 mg stopped cold turkey. 2020 (dec): Mirtazapine 30 mg -> 15 mg (GPs instructions) 2021 (feb): Mirtazapine reinstatement 26,25 mg 2022 (Jan): Mirtazapine (5% taper): 14. Jan 24,9 mg, 6. feb 23,7 mg, 1. marts 22,5 mg, 15. marts 21,3 mg, 2. april 20 mg, 26. april 19. mg, 25. may 18.1 mg, 26 jun 17 mg. Have always taken fish oil capsules. Do not drink alcohol when tapering. 1 multivitamin pill a day. Try to eat healthy, but impossible on mirtazapine. Link to comment
marie123 Posted July 9, 2022 Author Share Posted July 9, 2022 Hello. The edema really does go. It's something you can look forward to. Be well. Marie. 1 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
Bestill Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 This is good news Marie. Glad you are checking the things off your list and getting through all the doctor stuff. It pleases me as well that the edema gets better. It’s driving me nuts and and I am going on a few months of this. I just want to pee it all out if I am being honest. This will just be another thing that keeps me going that the lower we go, the better the outcome for many things. Are you still doing low carb? Did you find that helped? I am eating primarily Whole Foods. 90/10 when it comes to clean eating. Even my processed food is pretty clean ingredients. Trying to be patient. bestill ❤️ 1 June 9th 2021 Mirtazapine 7.5 mg June 24th Mirtazapine 11.25 mg Oct 25th tapered 16% and had major withdrawals on day 4. Oct 29th went up original dose. Dec 28th 2021 @ 11.25 Dec 31st 2022 @ 5.5 Dec 31st 2023 @ 2.4 Jan 15th 2024 @ 2.2 Mar 5th 2024 @ 1.9 Supplement from standard process- these are made with wholefoods-calm five, magnesium cream. Link to comment
marie123 Posted July 12, 2022 Author Share Posted July 12, 2022 Quote Quote Hi Bestill. I know it's frustrating with the edema. I had it for a long time (since 2014) I think. I still have it a bit, but hardly noticeable. Yes the low carb is good for me. I dropped real weight and water weight. It makes it much better on my joints. With low carb you usually are told to have high fat with it. I do low carb with low fat. I eat fresh fruit and vegetables, salads too. I found low carb wraps that I use for chicken fajitas, turkey wraps, etc. There are great bagels where I live but I can't have those. I did find a bagel place that makes fresh low carb bagels. I usually have a half of one in the AM. Once a week I cheat and eat anything I want for one meal. I am addicted to oranges now so that is my snack, so is pistachios. Once in a while I'll have 95% dark chocolate. I've gotten used to this way of eating thankfully. I need to get my cholesterol down, sugar down, weight down, heal my fatty liver, etc. so I'm motivated. My skin on my face has improved. It's not so round (filled with edema and Mirt). The skin looks nice and healthy too. Keep tapering Bestill. You will feel better as you get lower and the edema will get better. Don't forget to treat yourself well. I try to do this, little treats, special outings. I like gardens and tea places myself. Marie. 1 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
Mirtazapine20mg Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 4 hours ago, Bestill said: It’s driving me nuts and and I am going on a few months of this. I just want to pee it all out if I am being honest. This will just be another thing that keeps me going that the lower we go, the better the outcome for many things. 2 hours ago, marie123 said: Keep tapering Bestill. You will feel better as you get lower and the edema will get better. Don't forget to treat yourself well. I try to do this, little treats, special outings. I like gardens and tea places myself. Marie. Hi you two Mirt-buddies. I have read a lot of posts here on SA regarding mirtazapine. The more I read the more obvious it becomes, that mirtazapine withdrawal has its own rather well defined symptoms signature. It is so comforting to know, that it is not I who have become a raging hypochondriac. I have spend so much time worrying about symptoms. My GP knows absolutely nothing about adverse effects from mirtazapine or mirtazapine withdrawal. The situation is so awkward when you try to hint to your GP that the edema maybe be related mirtazapine without questioning his professionalism. How does one do that? 2004: (apr): Citalopram 20 mg, June 60 mg., dec 20 mg 2004 (dec): Mirtazapine 15 mg. 2014 (Jun): Citalopram stop cold turkey. Began 10 mg Vortioxetine 2017: (dec): Mirtazapine 15 mg ->30 mg (after three day stint on psych ward) 2020: (aug): Vortioxetine 10 mg stopped cold turkey. 2020 (dec): Mirtazapine 30 mg -> 15 mg (GPs instructions) 2021 (feb): Mirtazapine reinstatement 26,25 mg 2022 (Jan): Mirtazapine (5% taper): 14. Jan 24,9 mg, 6. feb 23,7 mg, 1. marts 22,5 mg, 15. marts 21,3 mg, 2. april 20 mg, 26. april 19. mg, 25. may 18.1 mg, 26 jun 17 mg. Have always taken fish oil capsules. Do not drink alcohol when tapering. 1 multivitamin pill a day. Try to eat healthy, but impossible on mirtazapine. Link to comment
Bestill Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 We just have to keep going. I am a fan of tea places myself. We have some lovely ones around my area that my daughter and I will go to. Since seeing a functional doctor almost a year ago (I still see her every 3 weeks) I can’t believe how much my hair skin and nails have changed for the better. You are what you eat. I am learning a lot on how our society is killing us slowly with the ingredients in processed food. It’s the worse here in the United States. To sun it up, they are keeping us sick so we turn to medication. It truly is all about making money off of us. I could go on and on. My go to is medjool dates. If I am having a sugar craving I have a few. Calorie dense for sure, but I fit it in. 😉. oh and Hu dark chocolate is my favorite. I have it on a rare occasion but try to stay away from any added sugar. ❤️ June 9th 2021 Mirtazapine 7.5 mg June 24th Mirtazapine 11.25 mg Oct 25th tapered 16% and had major withdrawals on day 4. Oct 29th went up original dose. Dec 28th 2021 @ 11.25 Dec 31st 2022 @ 5.5 Dec 31st 2023 @ 2.4 Jan 15th 2024 @ 2.2 Mar 5th 2024 @ 1.9 Supplement from standard process- these are made with wholefoods-calm five, magnesium cream. Link to comment
marie123 Posted July 12, 2022 Author Share Posted July 12, 2022 10 hours ago, Mirtazapine20mg said: Hi you two Mirt-buddies. I have read a lot of posts here on SA regarding mirtazapine. The more I read the more obvious it becomes, that mirtazapine withdrawal has its own rather well defined symptoms signature. It is so comforting to know, that it is not I who have become a raging hypochondriac. I have spend so much time worrying about symptoms. My GP knows absolutely nothing about adverse effects from mirtazapine or mirtazapine withdrawal. The situation is so awkward when you try to hint to your GP that the edema maybe be related mirtazapine without questioning his professionalism. How does one do that? Well I tried previously mentioning different symptoms to my doc. He is a friendly guy, sometimes he says the symptoms I'm having are not related. Once in a while he will say it's related when I say I have some nausea tapering for example. I just don't bother really anymore with it. I know what my symptoms are. Marie. 1 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
marie123 Posted July 12, 2022 Author Share Posted July 12, 2022 4 hours ago, Bestill said: We just have to keep going. I am a fan of tea places myself. We have some lovely ones around my area that my daughter and I will go to. Since seeing a functional doctor almost a year ago (I still see her every 3 weeks) I can’t believe how much my hair skin and nails have changed for the better. You are what you eat. I am learning a lot on how our society is killing us slowly with the ingredients in processed food. It’s the worse here in the United States. To sun it up, they are keeping us sick so we turn to medication. It truly is all about making money off of us. I could go on and on. My go to is medjool dates. If I am having a sugar craving I have a few. Calorie dense for sure, but I fit it in. 😉. oh and Hu dark chocolate is my favorite. I have it on a rare occasion but try to stay away from any added sugar. ❤️ What do you use to keep your hair and nails healthy? My hair is soft and nice because I take care of it and use good products but I lose a lot of hair. Lost some of my eyebrow. It could be age, not sure. Good thing I have a lot of hair. My fingernails have vertical ridges and not sure what vitamin will help that. Marie. 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
Bestill Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 I changed my diet. I stopped eating crap and just over time they all got better and better. I am taking supplements to support my thyroid, kidneys and liver so that may have to do something with it. My nails used to be so brittle and now they are strong as can be. I am noticing all of this new hair growth. I only wash my hair like twice a week tho. we definitely heal in layers. I also drink salt water every morning to get extra minerals. It’s Celtic sea salt. This isn’t playing a role in the water retention either. I stopped it for a month to see and no change. Started it back up and still the same June 9th 2021 Mirtazapine 7.5 mg June 24th Mirtazapine 11.25 mg Oct 25th tapered 16% and had major withdrawals on day 4. Oct 29th went up original dose. Dec 28th 2021 @ 11.25 Dec 31st 2022 @ 5.5 Dec 31st 2023 @ 2.4 Jan 15th 2024 @ 2.2 Mar 5th 2024 @ 1.9 Supplement from standard process- these are made with wholefoods-calm five, magnesium cream. Link to comment
marie123 Posted July 12, 2022 Author Share Posted July 12, 2022 Hello. Interesting to know what vitamins you take Bestill. I have been only taking vit D since my labs said it was very low. I am going to start women's senior multi-vitamin. I'll try next going back to fish oil. I think the E-manganese is what helps your hair and nails from what I've read. I will read more about it, maybe it's something to try in the future. Did your functional doctor recommend it, or did a lab test show that you are low in manganese? Marie 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
Bestill Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 My functional doctor did muscle testing and I tested well for it. She does nutrition muscle testing and I know it sounds out there but I have gotten better way faster working with her than any other doctor. Like I said, I completely turned my eating around and that was challenging to do. My body went through some awful stuff. All my supplements come from a whole food source or animal product like liver. The brand I take is called standard process. June 9th 2021 Mirtazapine 7.5 mg June 24th Mirtazapine 11.25 mg Oct 25th tapered 16% and had major withdrawals on day 4. Oct 29th went up original dose. Dec 28th 2021 @ 11.25 Dec 31st 2022 @ 5.5 Dec 31st 2023 @ 2.4 Jan 15th 2024 @ 2.2 Mar 5th 2024 @ 1.9 Supplement from standard process- these are made with wholefoods-calm five, magnesium cream. Link to comment
marie123 Posted July 21, 2022 Author Share Posted July 21, 2022 Hello everyone. I'm stable now on my current dose 3.3 mg. I had some light insomnia and some muscle aching with the last cut. It was not too bad. I'm sleeping in big clips, 6.5 to 7 hours now. When I get stable I always start planning when to cut next. Maybe on the 25th since that will make it three weeks. I go by when I am stable but also I don't cut too soon since Mirt is sneaky. Accomplished making my appointment for a colonoscopy. I had doctor fear about it but trying to do these things I've avoided. I think part of the process of withdrawal is to mentally getting in the right mind space too. It can be challenging at times especially during these times. I am working on my physical health too that needs improvement. My face is looking better. It's not rounded anymore, I see cheekbones, and the skin looks good (not withdrawal splotchy). I'm using an Aveeno facial scrub along with Dr. Thayer's rose witch hazel and both are helping. I've been using Covergirl tinted moisturizer with sunscreen forever. That helps too. Oh, I can also use bath soaps and shower gels that are scented now. I love my Rose shower gel lol. So far, so good. Be well. Marie. 2 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
marie123 Posted July 26, 2022 Author Share Posted July 26, 2022 Hello. This is for my records. I'm down to 3.2 mg Mirt. I've been tapering every 3 weeks lately and would like to continue this. I plan to cut a couple more small amounts to get me to 3 mg by September. Then the fun begins as I switch back to liquid. I think I'll call the compound pharmacy on the outside chance they have the "pink stuff" that they used to mix my Mirt pills with. I'll use a low cal maple syrup/water mixture probably. It looks like Sept. I'll start switching over. I do well tapering in the fall/winter unless I go on vacation and have to hold. I might go if there's a lull in the stupid virus and I get the variant specific booster. Liquid is smoother to taper so I hope I'll just slide off. I do believe with Mirt if you do a slow careful taper and with some time you can feel good again. Be well. Marie. 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
marie123 Posted August 4, 2022 Author Share Posted August 4, 2022 Hello. I've just realized some of my bad symptoms have gone due to being on a lower dose. Those intense, realistic, and horrifying nightmares are gone. Those acid trip, circulating bizarre thoughts upon waking are gone. I have read something in a scientific paper about Mirt. It says at high doses it can become a psychedelic. I guess for us sensitive folks tapering may affect us. The bad muscle aching and stiffness in the morning has lessened a lot. It's still there some but not bad as with the higher doses. Dry mouth has lessened some. I have some motivation, not tons, but some. Sugar cravings are down too. Moods are better. I used to hear things like booms when I was falling asleep. I used to hear people talking in another room or the phone ringing when it wasn't. Those are gone. Mirt is one strange, powerful drug. I wonder how it will be when I'm finished with my taper. Maybe it will be wavy but nothing too bad. Sleep might be off for a bit along with some other light symptoms. That is the beauty of a slow taper. Once the taper is done the rest is tolerable. You then get to feel normal and good again. Be well. Marie. 1 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
Ariel Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Hi @marie123 Thank you for sharing your positive update. Reading about your improvements really lifts my spirits! I'm happy for you. I also appreciate the kind, supportive messages you have been leaving for our fellow members. It rubs off on me to witness compassion in action. Thank you <3 A. 1 1996-2018 - misc. polypharmacy, incl. SSRIs, SNRIs, neuroleptics, lithium, benzos, stimulants, antihistamines, etc. (approx. 30+ drugs) 2012-2018 - 10mg lexapro/escitalopram (20mg?) Jan. 2018 - 10mg -> 5mg, then from 5mg -> 2.5mg, then 0mg --> July 2018 - 0mg 2017(?)-2020 - vyvanse/lisdexamfetamine 60-70mg 2020-2021 - 70mg down to 0mg --> July 2021 - 0mg March-April 2021 - vortioxetine 5-10mg (approx. 7 weeks total; CT) --> April 28th, 2021 - 0mg supplements: magnesium powder (dissolved in water) as needed throughout the day; 1 tsp fish oil w/ morning meal; 2mg melatonin August 1, 2022 - 1 mg melatonin Courage is fear that has said its prayers. - Karle Wilson Baker love and justice are not two. without inner change, there can be no outer change; without collective change, no change matters. - Rev. angel Kyodo williams Holding multiple truths. Knowing that everyone has their own accurate view of the way things are. - text on homemade banner at Afiya house I am not a medical professional; this is not medical advice. Link to comment
Bestill Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 That sounds great! I’m glad a lot of things are disappearing for you. That gives us all hope that we will feel that too. I always think about the end game as well. When I feel like crud, I know when I take my pill I get relief. One day that will be gone. It will be interesting but exciting. ❤️ June 9th 2021 Mirtazapine 7.5 mg June 24th Mirtazapine 11.25 mg Oct 25th tapered 16% and had major withdrawals on day 4. Oct 29th went up original dose. Dec 28th 2021 @ 11.25 Dec 31st 2022 @ 5.5 Dec 31st 2023 @ 2.4 Jan 15th 2024 @ 2.2 Mar 5th 2024 @ 1.9 Supplement from standard process- these are made with wholefoods-calm five, magnesium cream. Link to comment
marie123 Posted August 7, 2022 Author Share Posted August 7, 2022 Hello. This is for my records. About 5 days from the cut I've been having symptoms. They are not too bad but there. A bit harder to fall asleep and choppy with some wakeups. A bit tired but that's to be expected. I have a sore and mucusy throat. It's been lingering and then I saw someone posting about throat symptoms being mucusy with Mirt tapering and I had an "aha" moment. So since it's from tapering I know it's not a cold so I'll just move on and forget about it. Lots of water and cough drops help. I lost another pound and want to lose another 30 lol. Shorter goals are important so I'll say 13 pounds to get me into a nice even number and maybe a new dress size. It's a good distraction. I have a mediterranean cruise booked for a year from now. If things don't get worse and I get a specific booster, I may take the chance. Reading up on it is also a good distraction. It's hot as heck over here. Luckily a friend that I've made in the last couple years has a nice swmming pool that I've been invited over to a lot. Another good distraction. The weather will cool by the end of the week. I found a new tea place that we are going to try along with a nature preserve after the tea. I keep distracting myself lol. I'm also planning to do another landscape design in my backyard next spring. Either I will plan out the garden/plants or have a professional do it. Not sure yet. This all should keep me busy as I get into the "2's". Be well. Marie. 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
Bestill Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 @marie123 I have the throat thing too. I definitely noticed it this week being in a wave. For me, it’s worse at night and I’m always clearing my throat to clear out the gunk. Sometimes my throat is sore too. I have also noticed this week that high histamine foods are making it worse as well. Such joy, right? Hope things pass soon. ❤️ June 9th 2021 Mirtazapine 7.5 mg June 24th Mirtazapine 11.25 mg Oct 25th tapered 16% and had major withdrawals on day 4. Oct 29th went up original dose. Dec 28th 2021 @ 11.25 Dec 31st 2022 @ 5.5 Dec 31st 2023 @ 2.4 Jan 15th 2024 @ 2.2 Mar 5th 2024 @ 1.9 Supplement from standard process- these are made with wholefoods-calm five, magnesium cream. Link to comment
savinggrace Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Generally high histamine foods will cause more of a reaction during fall pollen season. Here, in the Midwest, pollen season is gearing up. Ugh…I believe this is called “cross reactivity.” Makes sense! If you pile on things you are sensitive to, you will be triggered more easily. Grace amitriptyline from 1980-2002, intermittent use of benzos over 2 decades prior to 2002 2002-2010 Klonopin 1-2 mg., ambien 10--20, mg, remeron 4 mg. and trileptal 300 mg 2011 Stopped ambien and crossed over to valium 17.5 mg. (updosing 2.5 mg. to cover ambien C/T ) tapered valium w/ long holds to 12.74 mg. from a high of approximately 20-30 mg/day 2015-present tapered trileptal aggressively for a year; now intermittently; interacts w/ other drugs currently 2024 still on 96 mg. trileptal and 4 mg. remeron Currently on benzo hold as I have to cross-over from brand-name valium to generic diazepam. Current dose of diazepam is 8.8 and valium is 5.7. I had to up-dose the total valium/diazepam from 12.74 to 14.5 where I have stayed since June 2023. I am crossing over to generic at a somewhat tolerable rate of .3mg/month after about 2 months of trial/error w/ updosing. I am not currently tapering; will continue to cross over. Link to comment
marie123 Posted August 8, 2022 Author Share Posted August 8, 2022 Yes now that I think about it, I really don't pay attention whether a food is high histamine or not. I've been eating fresh eggplant from my garden, tomatoes, and all kinds of fresh fruits, etc. So far I haven't tweaked my diet to go low histamine. With dieting to lose weight now I think I would lose my mind if I had to go low histamine too. That would be low fat, low carb and low histamine. Eek! I guess it could be effecting my sleep. Pollen is pretty high around here. I wonder if this month's long heat wave has anything to do with it. I notice that drinking plenty of ice water is helping my throat. Stuff like this usually passes especially when my cuts are tiny. Marie. 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
marie123 Posted August 12, 2022 Author Share Posted August 12, 2022 Hello. I'm doing alright. I have some low key w/d stuff but okay. I am waiting for my next cut after the 19th when I get my first colonoscopy. I went to an afternoon tea for my cheat day and had the tiered goodies. Sugar tastes intensely strong since I no longer have so many sweet things. Afterwards we walked through a nature preserve. It was very quiet and peaceful. I try to do good things for myself to keep me going through this experience. I try to keep withdrawal low when I can since this is such a long drag. I am debating whether I should switch to liquid once I hit 3 mg. I'm going at a good pace now and finding w/d not too hard. If I switch the changeover will be a long process for me, like 2 months. I got off trazodone by weighing but Mirt is more potent. Tiny doses of Mirt might need more care. Maybe I'll just go a bit lower than 3 mg with weighing the dose. I'll get to 2.5 mg and reassess? I'll see. Marie. 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
Bestill Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 Do you find the cute are getting harder or staying the same. Are you holding longer. I think I did too much this past month and going to calm it down again. Just curious to see what your experience has been June 9th 2021 Mirtazapine 7.5 mg June 24th Mirtazapine 11.25 mg Oct 25th tapered 16% and had major withdrawals on day 4. Oct 29th went up original dose. Dec 28th 2021 @ 11.25 Dec 31st 2022 @ 5.5 Dec 31st 2023 @ 2.4 Jan 15th 2024 @ 2.2 Mar 5th 2024 @ 1.9 Supplement from standard process- these are made with wholefoods-calm five, magnesium cream. Link to comment
marie123 Posted August 14, 2022 Author Share Posted August 14, 2022 Honestly it's been all over the place. Some cuts are harder than others. Spring makes my cuts worse I've noticed. Generally as I get into the lower doses it seems like the cuts are easier, but I'm making small cuts, .1 mg and holding 3/4 weeks. I think it could be that the side effects are lessening as I taper too. You can look forward to this too. I know the side effects should be almost gone at some point before I taper off completely it seems. I know you said you've done too much this month. Sometimes I've felt that way when tapering. I know when it happens I notice it and slow down. Be stubborn Bestill, this will help you get to the end. Know this you're going to be okay. Did you start at 15 mg? Going to another garden/arboretum/reserve to tomorrow. Weather is perfect so off we go. Be well. Marie. 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
Bestill Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 I started at 11.25. It’s been hit or miss with me too. I’m feeling it more in the last week like I did during spring time. But, I also think I can live my life like I did pre antidepressant. I had a come to Jesus meeting with my husband. Sometimes it’s really hard to break old habits of the go go go. I’m working on it. Enjoy your time tomorrow. It sounds wonderful. ❤️ June 9th 2021 Mirtazapine 7.5 mg June 24th Mirtazapine 11.25 mg Oct 25th tapered 16% and had major withdrawals on day 4. Oct 29th went up original dose. Dec 28th 2021 @ 11.25 Dec 31st 2022 @ 5.5 Dec 31st 2023 @ 2.4 Jan 15th 2024 @ 2.2 Mar 5th 2024 @ 1.9 Supplement from standard process- these are made with wholefoods-calm five, magnesium cream. Link to comment
marie123 Posted August 20, 2022 Author Share Posted August 20, 2022 Hello. I just had my first colonoscopy done yesterday. I never had one and put it off forever. I'm so glad it was an excellent result with no polyps. I was starving afterwards and ate a whole lot afterwards. I had lost 5 pounds due to prep, gained 3 back from eating, but still lost about 2 pounds. I am happy about that with my ongoing diet. I'm down 24 pounds now. I'm continuing my low carb/low fat diet with one cheat day a week. I gained plenty of weight because of these meds. I will make my cut now (.1 mg) tonight that will put me at 3.1 mg. I do well cutting in the fall/winter. I should be able to make 2 cuts in Sept. to get me down to 2.9 mg. I had a flare of anendonia for a couple days a week ago. I kind of felt very numb emotions. I get them very rarely though. I'll keep going. Be well. Marie. 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
marie123 Posted August 29, 2022 Author Share Posted August 29, 2022 Hello everyone. Doing okay with the latest drop. I just have some digestive upset and weirdness in the AM. I guess I'm used to feeling a bit strange lol. The plan is to make another cut on the 10th to bring me down to 3 mg Mirt. I have decided to just keep going without switching to liquid. I'm on a roll with tapering so why upset it. At some point I think I will switch to titration when I'm a bit lower. I'll see how it goes. I'm pushing through and going to all the doctors I need. This week was a podiatrist. My big toe had what I thought was a blister under a callus. I saw a great doctor today who knew his stuff and had a good bedside manner. He told me I had a ganglion cyst under my big toe. The doc gave me a shot before he poked a hole in it to drain it. It was a clear gel like substance and a lot of it since it was a pretty big cyst. No infection and they are very common. The toe was bothering me for a while and I put it off for some time. It's still swollen some so I may have to go back. I have two more doctors I need to get my courage up to see. One is a dentist to get some new pretty teeth. The other is a plastic surgeon for removal of a mole on my face. I love the change of seasons where I live. I do well tapering this time of year. I may be in the 2's by the end of September. Be well. Marie. 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
marie123 Posted September 2, 2022 Author Share Posted September 2, 2022 Hello. I am feeling very good so I know it's time to cut again. It's only been 2 weeks so I might wait a few days and cut on Monday. I will make my small cut of .1 mg Mirt which will bring me down to 3.00, yippee. I had some weird vagus nerve pain today. I get it once in a while. It's right below my belly button and it feels like a quick sharp pain. I just rubbed the area for a bit and it stopped. Withdrawal weirdness at it's finest. I visited Theodore Roosevelt's gravesite yesterday in a very old beautiful cemetery. Next to it was a wooded area with trails so we took a short walk. There was some kid's camp in there and a bit noisy so we left. We like peaceful quiet, at least I do. Today we visited my favorite tea place and arboretum. We know to get there early so we can sit on the back veranda with a view of the gardens and bay. I cheat and have pistachio cake there, so good. A perfect day it was so we did a lot of walking the trails seeing pretty plants and different types of trees. I feel healing happening when I do this, not sure why, but it makes me feel good. Be well. Marie. 2 10/13--10/14 Ambien. Started tapering 1/14 Jumped 10/14. Done. 3/14 7.5 Remeron still taking this. 2/14 75 Trazodone - Tapered by dry cutting all the way down. 1/16 4 mg Trazodone - Jumped. Bad mistake. Got hit with late withdrawal 6 weeks later. Reinstated. 4/16 Reinstated 1 mg, updose to 2 mg Trazodone 2/19 .04 Trazodone. Walked off. Done. 10/3/19 Started 7.5 Mirtazapine taper cut to .073 gram weight, pill weighs .076 4/5/20 New Mirtazapine Taper - Compound Liquid 7.35 mg April '20, 7.25 mg May, 7.05 mg June, 6.99 mg June, 6.78 mg July, 6.57 mg Aug, Sept 6.35 mg, Sept 6.24 mg, Sept 6.21 mg, Oct 5.99 mg, Oct 5.90 mg, Oct 5.70 mg. 1/11/21 6.05 mg Messed up taper due to syringe change. Must remember the 1 ml syringe contains 1.5mg! 1/16/21 5.99 mg 2/21 5.75 mg, 3/21 5.6 mg, 4/7 5.45, 4/14 5.30, 5/12 5.15, 5/25/21 4.99 mg, 6/29 4.87 mg, 7/14/21 4.74 mg, 8/5 4.62 mg 8/17 4.5 mg, 8/30 4.38 mg,9/16 4.26 mg,10/9 4.14 mg, 10/23 4.05 mg, 11/6 3.96 mg,11/17 3.87mg.***Jan 22 Liquid was changed/couldn't tolerate***Changed back to pills. Feb 22/3.9 mg, 2/17/22 3.8 mg, 3/23 3.7 mg, 4/7 3.6 mg, 5/10 3.5mg,6/10/22 3.4 mg, 7/4 3.3 mg, 7/25 3.2 mg, 8/20/22 3.1 mg, 9/15 3 mg, 10/8/22 2.9 mg., 12/15 2.8 mg, 1/6/23 2.7 mg, 2/16/23 2.6 mg, 3/9 2.5 mg, 4/4 2.4 mg, 4/29/23 2.3 mg, 5/26 2.2 mg, 6/22/23 2.1 mg, 10/14 2 mg, 11/12 1.9 mg, 11/28 1.8 mg , 12/14/23 1.7, 12/31/23 1.6 mg, 1/20 1.5 mg, 2/6/24 1.4 mg, 2/12 updose 1.5 mg, 3/27/24 1.4 mg. Taking multi-vitamin, vit. D, cholestoff, psyllium husk, and fish oil. Link to comment
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