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savinggrace

Hello Marie,

i’ve been wondering how you are doing.  CONGRATULATIONS on getting that darn trazodone over and done with!  Doesn’t matter how long it took. You made it. 

 

Perhaps waiting a bit on the mirtazapine would be wise as their mechanism of action is somewhat related. 

 

Yay Marie,

Grace

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marie123

Thanks wantrelief. It's been quite a journey. How is your tapering going?

 

Marie

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Survivor1

Congrats Marie and welcome back.  It must be a relief to finally say good riddance to trazodone.  I hope to be there one day!

 

All the best.

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marie123

Hello there Grace. I've been wondering how you are doing also.  I hope you are doing better. Maybe we can taper mirtazapine together when the time comes. I know you mentioned it. Yes trazodone has similar mechanisms of action. There are similarities but have differences otherwise I would just continue tapering instead of waiting a few months.

Marie

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marie123

Hello Survivor. I am so very glad to be rid of that drug. I hated it so much. You will be rid of it too, just keep on going with your tapering.

 

Marie

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savinggrace

Oh I often wonder if tapering mirtazapine will be an option for me. I’ve got some big obstacles in the way that will take years. But you, are free and clear with only mirtazapine to tackle. I mentioned the similarity because I know remeron has some anti-histamine action for me, which is probably a good thing. Mirtazapine seems to be a bit of an enigma in the paych world. Exactly how it works isn’t fully understood but docs just know it is a good choice for sleep. You might actually sleep better as you lower the dose...if you go slow enough. Take care. 

 

Grace

 

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Hopefull
On 2/25/2019 at 4:53 AM, marie123 said:

Hello everyone. I stepped off of trazodone three days ago at about .04 mg. I have not noticed anything except some stuffy sinuses. It makes sense because traz is like a super decongestant. It's a strong drug, and feel it's a drug that is vastly underestimated.  It took almost four years to taper, but I was undergoing ambien withdrawal at the time.  I was tapering at a point of being sick. I also held longer at times of difficult family stuff and a couple of vacations when I was feeling better. It feels great to be done finally.

 

I'll wait a couple months until I start thinking about tapering mirtazapine.

 

Marie

Congratulations Marie, well done!

How long will it take for you to tapper off Mitrazapine?

Take care,  Hopefull! :)

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marie123

Not yet tapered mirtazapine.

Just got off trazodone.

I will taper off mirtazapine next.

I just want to know what I am in for with mirt.

 

Marie

 

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marie123

It's been about 11 days since I walked off trazodone. No real issues so far. I have a sinus infection and I am now taking an antibiotic. I don't feel any revving up from the A/B like I used to. I believe I am over benzo and trazodone withdrawal for the most part. I'm not perfect but everything left is tolerable. I've been able to travel and make plans finally. I have a big birthday number coming up and have tickets to the Rolling Stones for that day. Never got to see them in my youth. I can drink coffee now, but must avoid alcohol. I test it once in a while and it has not been pretty. I still have some exercise intolerance. Food intolerances are a lot better. These things will clear, but the point is I don't feel sick (withdrawal sick) anymore.

 

I've learned plenty by tapering these meds and feel pretty confident about a very slow taper from remeron. I just have to remember not to go too fast as I always got that "itch" to go faster. Remeron has made me fat and lazy. I feel hungover and spacey in the morning from it. I believe it has also has lowered my immune system. It does give me some decent sleep though.

 

Marie

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savinggrace

Oh, Marie.  I am so happy for you.  It sounds like "normal" life to me...which I know is not completely normal, but coming from the lows we fall to, barely normal is so wonderful.  Enjoy your new life.  Being bolstered by this, you will make it through the remeron tapering, knowing the rainbow at the end of the storm...if there is one.

 

Grace

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marie123

Yes Grace I'm waiting for the rainbow at the end of the storm. I know it will happen and that's what keeps me going, plus I'm the most stubborn person I know.

 

Marie

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Carmie

Hi Marie, 

 

Glad to hear you’re off the Trazodone and you’ve had no real issues so far. Yay! Keep us updated.

 

Sending hugs🤗

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marie123

Thanks Carmie. You're so sweet. How are you doing?

 

Marie

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marie123

Ugh. I just realized I've taken remeron for five years. I hear it dissolves nicely in water.

 

Marie

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marie123

Thanks Chessie. I would like to try the liquid if I am able to tolerate it. I never was able to do it with trazodone. If I can't do liquid, I'll get a microscope and a magnifying glass and I'll taper that tiny Mirt pill. Doc won't give me a script to get it made into a liquid. I guess it's too much work for him.

 

Marie

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This is my three week update. I just finished a script for bactrim for a sinus infection. I tried to wait out the cold because these days I am trying to avoid antibiotics. I can now take antibiotics without any ramping up of w/d or going into a wave.  Earlier on in w/d I would have insomnia during the course of A/B and then a wave after it for about a week or so.

This is a great improvement.

 

My sleep is getting much better now that traz is gone. I would wake up every hour or so during traz w/d. I sleep for long spurts of 5 or 6 hours now and usually can sleep another hour or so more. So now it's only one wakeup and longer duration of sleep. This is another great improvement.

 

My baseline has improved also. My head is clearer and my windows are better.

 

Marie

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wantrelief

It is wonderful to hear how well you are doing post Trazodone, Marie!

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marie123

Thanks wantrelief. Another positive is the intense crazy dream cycling is calming down a bit.

 

Marie

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On 3/12/2019 at 3:12 AM, marie123 said:

Thanks Carmie. You're so sweet. How are you doing?

 

Marie

 

Hi Marie, 

 

It’s wonderful to read that you continue to be at a baseline after jumping off your meds recently,  Yay! Continue to keep us informed, it’s very encouraging. I’m glad your sleep is getting better too.🛌👍

 

Tonight will be night ten of my taper from 7.50mg to 7.25mg. My symptoms have ramped up a bit, but they’re bearable. Insomnia has kicked in, but I do get some sleep. I’m not stressing about it. I’m putting a few different things into practice and we’ll see if that helps a bit. 

 

Take care, sending hugs 🤗

 

 

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It's been just over a month so I wanted to update my thread for my own record. I'm sleeping nicely on most nights. Last night I got nine hours with just a quick wakeup and back to sleep. I think I'm making up for lost sleep. The only other symptom is slight nausea and a gassy bloated belly at times. I have an appetite but I don't feel like eating a lot. I'll look on the bright side with this--maybe I'll lose a couple pounds. Spring is here and the long days of sunshine helps my mood. I think I'll recover nicely this spring/summer.

Marie

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I'm getting hit one after the other with different cold/flu bugs. The beginning of the month I had a bad cold that turned into a sinus infection. Now this whole week I've been hit influenza. My spouse brought it home from work and unfortunately we're all sick here.  He works with the public so always gets the flu shot but it was ineffective this time. This is two years in a row I've gotten the flu. Next flu season I think I should get the shot. I've avoided it for many years but now because of my age I believe I should get one. Last year's flu lasted 3/4 weeks. I'm not thinking about w/d at least.

 

The warmer weather is coming and looking forward to getting a lot of sun. The past few years the sun bothered me too much but I'm past that now. I'll do some gardening and reading in my outdoor lounger. Now if I could just shut up the three chihuahas that moved into the house next door I'll be good. The woman starts screaming for them to shut up all the time. They don't so I'm treated to her screaming voice also. Maybe I'll start screaming too lol.

 

Marie

 

 

 

 

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marie123

It's been 6 weeks since I stopped traz. I remember in 2016 I jumped off too high a dose and 6 weeks later I got hit withdrawal. It's funny in a warped sort of way that I don't know if the same thing is happening again with w/d. I've has an upper respiratory infection, followed by a sinus infection with A/B, and now the flu since I've stopped.  It's the second week with the flu and have symptoms weakness and stomach upset.

 

I had an offer of a free theater ticket yesterday and really did not feel up to it. I went and really enjoyed the show Beautiful. I crashed when I got home.  I've continued to try and push myself here and there and remain positive that one day it'll be over.

 

Marie

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savinggrace

Marie, 

I have had an upper respiratory infections and sinus infection with flu-like symptoms all winter but  I often find it hard to sort out the dizziness, fatigue, head pain etc from withdrawal stuff.  I try to tell myself that this too shall pass no matter what is causing it.  It sure doesn't help that the allergy season is starting to peak here.  My congestion is terrible.  I don't tolerate any anti-biotics that I know of.  I actually used a nasal decongestant spray yesterday as I was so desperate and about 8 hours later had a very scary episode of air hunger.  I think it was my meds interacting.  I won't be doing that again.  It took about 3 hours to pass.  Do you use nasal irrigation?  Since I don't tolerate anti-biotics I irrigate every day.  I absolutely know it helps, but I do think I have a low level chronic sinus infection.  It's just not worth the drug interactions to me to take an AB that might help.

 

"Powering through" is a good strategy for distraction and it is often amazing how it helps and how happy I am I did it.  The difficult part for me is convincing myself I can do it.  Glad the show was worth it.

 

Grace

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Thanks for stopping by Grace. I'm pretty sure that the illnesses were real. The flu was tested by the doctor and tested positive. I've just been "real sick" other than w/d sick. I'm curious to see what's there after the flu peters out. I do irrigate but only when my sinus is very dry. I can tolerate A/Bs now. I used to get insomnia every night when I took them and then have a long bad wave afterwards. The last two times I had to take A/Bs I had no insomnia and just slight increase in w/d for a couple days after.

 

Yes it is the convincing part that I struggle with. I'd like to try to get back to the gym again when I'm feeling better. I'll try to talk myself into it and drag a friend with me.

 

Marie

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This is the third week of influenza. I have a lot of weakness from it and just trying to get some energy back. It's the H2N3 influenza. the more potent flu. I got this same flu last year but earlier in the season. My spouse gets the shot each year and I guess it did not cover this one. I have avoided flu shots for years and have not gotten the flu for years until last year. I have changed my mind now, and will get the flu shot without the thermosol next year. My immune system is not that strong anymore from w/d, remeron, not exercising and age.

 

I only have noticed itching from the trazodone withdrawal and it's been 7 weeks.Sleep is much better and I don't have a lot of those horrific nightmares.  I think I will be okay.

 

Marie

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The flu is finally gone and I've gotten my energy back. I've gotten some insomnia now, nothing too bad. It just takes some time before I can fall asleep. I am able to take naps now, so I just take a nap later to make up for it. I believe it's traz w/d. I feel lighter now, like a weight has been lifted off of me. I'm able to do more things more easily I've noticed. I have to remove remeron now, and I'll feel awesome I'm sure. I can appreciate the nice weather now. The last few years the sun bothered me and basically I was sick. Things are getting better finally.

 

Marie

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