iull1k: Seroxat 18 months

[iull1k]

 

Hello to all members of this community.

First of all i want to start with an introduction. I have 22 years old, a beatiful girlfriend, a friendly family and all that can make me happy. But because of a irresponsible neurologist i'm in the same boat as all of us. I always had an anxious behaviour but this never bothered me. I was happy and all was fine until january 2014 when after a surgery i had first panick attack followed by an extreme anxiety. Finally after different attempts to get back on the track, i started to use Seroxat (Paroxetine) 10mg + Clonozepam. All was fine but i still had some troubles and was upped to 20mg after 3-4 months. In some months my condition stabilized and all was fine. I had normal libido, i even remember how i was horny right after seeing pictures on fb. In march-april i started to taper from my dose. From 20 mg to 15, 10, 7.5, 5. On each dose i stoped for one month, In may-june i falled in love (10mg). I still remember how on my birthday i was with my girlfriend and noticed her tanga under the dress and a fire passed trough me. Even 2 months ago (mild july) i was in a trip with my girlfriend and i had all range of emotions (5 mg). At the end of the july i had a very stressful situation in my family ( because of health problem of my dad) and there is moment when all started to change. My appetite decreased,I have not eaten a few days, subfebrile fever, fatigue , pain in eyes and sensibility at light , headaches on left side and so on. On day 3 or 4 because of excessive stress and lack of sleep i took 0.5mg clonozepam. In the morning i had a wet dream and my morning wood was not so hard. Next day was the same. I still had erections but my libido started to fade (because of stress i thought and even not noticed this as a problem). But i still had emotions and sexuality was still there, i even planned a trip in september. From october i planned to begin studies for master degree. On 6 august i drank a 2% beer, all night something happened in my gut and the next day i had a intoxication with fever and diarrhea .The culmination of this story is from 9 to 10 august when i tapered from 5 mg to 3 mg. At 7PM (i take it at night not in the morning) i got my dose and arround at 9PM i was with my girlfriend in park when i felt something like before panic attack. Next day when i woke up i understood that something is strange but was not sure what is happening. Zero libido, no emotions, poor erections, genital anaesthesia (and not only genital but on whole body i had less sensitive skin), numbs hands or legs during sleep or even during day, unable to sleep, and lot of other symptoms. An interesting thing was my dark urine from first day that lasted arround 5 days (something that i think has to do with Ion channels - sodium-potassium-calcium) . I made medical tests and my free testosterone is at lower limit, my cortisol was at higher limit and my prolactine was fine) Until 30 august i tapered completly as was sure that this is best decision after all that i had read about pssd. After tapering i hade a week with better erections. Now i'm on 14 september. I sleep well, numbness and fatigue decreased and my headaches practically disappeared. I still have all other symptoms like anaesthesia, zero libido, poor erections, no emotions, premature ejaculation, frequent urination, anxiety, lack of concentration and decreased mental abilities.

 

I read virtually all existing information about PSSD and i understood like all people that are there involved that we are in a big ass! I even don't know how the **** i can smile now.

So what we have now.

I thought for a long time and defined three options :

1) Chemical ( Dopamine, histamine, prolactine receptors and so on modulations by meds)

2) Natural (sensitization with Curcumin, Inositol, SJW. Trying to lower serotonin - shilajit , ginseng panax...SERT modulation with Zinc and so on)

3) Going back slow on SSRI ( This is a option that i accepted in my brain just yesterday, until is not too late to do this ) at low dose that i felt fine (5-10mg) and to try to taper again slower with the hope that messed up neurotransmitters will restore back. This story inspired me http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/5787-furiated-progress-thread-male-18-suffering-from-cymbaltas-poisonous-effects/

I thought about it because seems like there is a probability that all what is happening now have to do with withdrawal because i don't had this problems on seroxat (at least emotional anhedonia)

 

Also i have a rational neurologist that which was agree with what happens. He's not saying that everything is in my head , he read much literature to understand the issue even after work hours but don't know how to deal with this. More then this i have a lovely and understanding girlfriend.

 

Guys, i'm ready to read any of yours advice and be free to write all that you think. I really hope for help.

[iull1k]

I need yours advices about going back on SSRI. What do you think about this in my case? Also on which SSRI would be better to go back, the used one or another? What kind of more damages i can make and is it worth the risk? Thank's

[iull1k]

The point is that i don't want to stay on the drug. I would like to go back for trying to stabilize pssd and especially emotional anhedonia and to taper more slowly with hope that all can be fine for this time. Thank's very much

[mammaP]

Hello iull. welcome to SA. You are suffering from withdrawal as you suspect. Unfortunately you tapered too fast and now your body is struggling to get back to normal.  It is always best to reinstate the same drug and then taper off slowly.  I would go back to 5mg and stay at that dose for a few months to stabilise before starting to taper again.  You will recover from this and get your life back to normal, it will take some time but hopefully will not be very long until you feel much better. 

 

Here is the topic to read on reinstating... http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/7562-about-reinstating-and-stabilizing-to-reduce-withdrawal-symptoms/

 

About tapering seroxat (paxil)  http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/405-tips-for-tapering-off-paxil-paroxetine/

 

Many of us find a good quality fish oil helps with symptoms, and magnesium can be very calming.  

 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1300-magnesium-natures-calcium-channel-blocker/

 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/36-omega-3-fatty-acids-fish-oil/

 

It will help us if you can put your drug history in your signature strip, a short summary is all that is needed, when you started taking it and when you started and stopped tapering. You can find how to do that here..

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/893-please-put-your-withdrawal-history-in-your-signature/

[iull1k]

Thank's very much for your advice. Is it not to late to reinstate? I tapered on 10 august from 5 mg to 3 and the rest of the month i tapered continuously to 0. My last dose (arround 1mg) was on 30 aug. I should reinstate directly 5 mg from first day?

[Altostrata]

Welcome, iull.

 

You might try 1mg to start, to see how it affects you. It could be that small dosage will be enough. Be sure to take it at the same time each day. You'd taper off later by tiny amounts.

 

This topic Tips for tapering off Paxil (paroxetine) will explain how to take small doses.

[iull1k]

Hello Alto. When i was on 3-2-1mg i was not fine at all. My pssd and emotional anhedonia started at 3mg. Do you think that i should reinstate at 1mg and if nothing wrong is happen to go up until i will get some improvements? Also, considering actual condition, what more can happens and if it worth the risk? Thank's very much for your attention.

[Fresh]

Hi iull ,    how  have you been doing?   Did you reinstate?

[iull1k]

Hi iull ,    how  have you been doing?   Did you reinstate?

Hello. Thank's for asking. Well i did not do this because i was afraid. I really don't have any withdrawals symptoms like most people here. My symptoms are more specific to PSSD

[Altostrata]

If PSSD is your only symptom, not reinstating and allowing your body to heal is probably the best route.

[iull1k]

Thank's very much for your advice. I mean that my symptoms are the same as PSSD suffers, not that my only symptom is sexual dysfunction. However i don't see any person who recovered from this condition. I don't have emotions at all, less sensitive skin, can't get tickled, don't have genital sensations, no libido and brain fog and lowered body temperature (i can wear a jacket at 25 celsius degree). 

 

P.S. I dedicate my entire free time for study mountains of research and documents.

[Petunia]

However i don't see any person who recovered from this condition.

 

Here are some:

 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/52-post-ssri-sexual-dysfunction-pssd/?p=192419

[MontanaMan]

How you doing now?