blaine11 Posted October 5, 2015 Author Share Posted October 5, 2015 thats not a positive, i feel like a freak. i cant drink with my friends nor can i have sex, i see no future zoloft - a few years ago, symptoms - low libido and insomnia - returned to normal on discontinuationtramadol (SSRI) - off now from 7 months usage, 150-200mg per day, symptoms - almost non exist libido/sex drive, no pleasurable effects from alcohol, feeling 'not normal' - 16 months clean Link to comment
tgirl Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Blaine, What exactly are all your symptoms? Yes, it could take a while. Try and stay positive. Tgirl April 2014 remeron 45mg. June 2014 abilify 2.5 remeron wasn't working so abilify was then added September 2014 woke up with anxiety x 100!!!! Pdoc then took me from 45 to 7.5 within a month and took abilify from 2.5 to 0 Currently Remeron 7.5 Vitamin d 5,000 iu taking for about 3 years October 2014 added fish oil/omega 3 1000 mg per day Levothyroxitine 100 10 years or so Dec 2014 started tapering 10% every 10 days-no problems. August 2015 down to 0.1 mg Woke up with severe anxiety-sleep issues-racing thoughts-depression. 9/9/15 up dose 1 mg. Link to comment
blaine11 Posted October 10, 2015 Author Share Posted October 10, 2015 I saw another doctor yesterday, he was very understanding and helpfulhe basically said the brain never stops healing, it is 'incredible'. he told me 'permanent rewired reward pathway' is a paradox as anything medication changes, the brain eventually corrects it and recoversjust thought id share that for people who are also scared and suffering zoloft - a few years ago, symptoms - low libido and insomnia - returned to normal on discontinuationtramadol (SSRI) - off now from 7 months usage, 150-200mg per day, symptoms - almost non exist libido/sex drive, no pleasurable effects from alcohol, feeling 'not normal' - 16 months clean Link to comment
tgirl Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Thanks for the share Blaine! April 2014 remeron 45mg. June 2014 abilify 2.5 remeron wasn't working so abilify was then added September 2014 woke up with anxiety x 100!!!! Pdoc then took me from 45 to 7.5 within a month and took abilify from 2.5 to 0 Currently Remeron 7.5 Vitamin d 5,000 iu taking for about 3 years October 2014 added fish oil/omega 3 1000 mg per day Levothyroxitine 100 10 years or so Dec 2014 started tapering 10% every 10 days-no problems. August 2015 down to 0.1 mg Woke up with severe anxiety-sleep issues-racing thoughts-depression. 9/9/15 up dose 1 mg. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus mammaP Posted October 10, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted October 10, 2015 I saw another doctor yesterday, he was very understanding and helpful he basically said the brain never stops healing, it is 'incredible'. he told me 'permanent rewired reward pathway' is a paradox as anything medication changes, the brain eventually corrects it and recovers just thought id share that for people who are also scared and suffering Thats great to hear Blaine, does he understand that you are in withdrawal from tramadol? **I am not a medical professional, if in doubt please consult a doctor with withdrawal knowledge. Different drugs occasionally (mostly benzos) 1976 - 1981 (no problem) 1993 - 2002 in and out of hospital. every type of drug + ECT. Staring with seroxat 2002 effexor. Tapered March 2012 to March 2013, ending with 5 beads. Withdrawal April 2013 . Reinstated 5 beads reduced to 4 beads May 2013 Restarted taper Nov 2013 OFF EFFEXOR Feb 2015 Tapered atenolol and omeprazole Dec 2013 - May 2014 Tapering tramadol, Feb 2015 100mg , March 2015 50mg July 2017 30mg. May 15 2018 25mg Taking fish oil, magnesium, B12, folic acid, bilberry eyebright for eye pressure. My story http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4199-hello-mammap-checking-in/page-33 Lesson learned, slow down taper at lower doses. Taper no more than 10% of CURRENT dose if possible Link to comment
blaine11 Posted October 10, 2015 Author Share Posted October 10, 2015 I saw another doctor yesterday, he was very understanding and helpful he basically said the brain never stops healing, it is 'incredible'. he told me 'permanent rewired reward pathway' is a paradox as anything medication changes, the brain eventually corrects it and recovers just thought id share that for people who are also scared and suffering Thats great to hear Blaine, does he understand that you are in withdrawal from tramadol? yes, although he said its quite an unusual length of time - 'protracted withdrawal' im not sure what that means? zoloft - a few years ago, symptoms - low libido and insomnia - returned to normal on discontinuationtramadol (SSRI) - off now from 7 months usage, 150-200mg per day, symptoms - almost non exist libido/sex drive, no pleasurable effects from alcohol, feeling 'not normal' - 16 months clean Link to comment
LexAnger Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Hi Blain, It took me years self struggling and adjusting my mindset to full acceptance to the most horrible setback. I was put on ssir for a headache and was having a perfect life in every way. It's the most difficult step but I found full acceptance is the real start of healing as you will save energy struggling in that area for taking good care of the present you. You are already out of the woods, time and patience will eventually provide healing and health back. I'm still battling every minute reducing dose, and never know if I even can make it to the end off drug. I'm bed bound today from sickness and pain allover from the recent 1% cut being like this for 2 weeks already. I hope you feel better knowing how much more damaging these drugs can be. Drug free Sep. 23 2017 2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks. 2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg 2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain 2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain; 2013 Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg by July. first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain 2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg, 2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on 2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks. 2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR 2016 Feb., started dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday 2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg，8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg， 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg 2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, 2/13--0.13mg, 2/20--0.06mg, 3/18--0.13mg, 6/1--0.12mg, 7/6--0.1mg, 7/14--0.08mg, 8/17--0.04mg, 8/20--0.03mg, 8/28--0.02mg, 9/6--0.0205mg, 9/8--0.02mg, 9/17--0.015mg, 9/20--0.01mg, 9/21--0.0048mg, 9/22--0.0001mg, Link to comment
blaine11 Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 bed bound? wow, i am sorry to hear that. reading peoples comments - withdrawal/symptoms are so variable and scary zoloft - a few years ago, symptoms - low libido and insomnia - returned to normal on discontinuationtramadol (SSRI) - off now from 7 months usage, 150-200mg per day, symptoms - almost non exist libido/sex drive, no pleasurable effects from alcohol, feeling 'not normal' - 16 months clean Link to comment
blaine11 Posted October 13, 2015 Author Share Posted October 13, 2015 is anyone suffering from 'Anhedonia' ? - if so, its a sign of down-regulation of receptors, probably serotonin receptors zoloft - a few years ago, symptoms - low libido and insomnia - returned to normal on discontinuationtramadol (SSRI) - off now from 7 months usage, 150-200mg per day, symptoms - almost non exist libido/sex drive, no pleasurable effects from alcohol, feeling 'not normal' - 16 months clean Link to comment
tgirl Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Blaine, I think we are all suffering from adhendonia. Hope you are well, Tgirl April 2014 remeron 45mg. June 2014 abilify 2.5 remeron wasn't working so abilify was then added September 2014 woke up with anxiety x 100!!!! Pdoc then took me from 45 to 7.5 within a month and took abilify from 2.5 to 0 Currently Remeron 7.5 Vitamin d 5,000 iu taking for about 3 years October 2014 added fish oil/omega 3 1000 mg per day Levothyroxitine 100 10 years or so Dec 2014 started tapering 10% every 10 days-no problems. August 2015 down to 0.1 mg Woke up with severe anxiety-sleep issues-racing thoughts-depression. 9/9/15 up dose 1 mg. Link to comment
blaine11 Posted October 13, 2015 Author Share Posted October 13, 2015 oh, i apologize! my doctor did say the bad news is it takes a long long time to go away, the good news is it will subside zoloft - a few years ago, symptoms - low libido and insomnia - returned to normal on discontinuationtramadol (SSRI) - off now from 7 months usage, 150-200mg per day, symptoms - almost non exist libido/sex drive, no pleasurable effects from alcohol, feeling 'not normal' - 16 months clean Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted October 13, 2015 Moderator Share Posted October 13, 2015 Like everything else we feel or don't feel in WD, Anhedonia comes and goes in waves and windows. It is, however, frequently one of the last things to go. Some people have it bad until after they jump off, while for others is clears up as they taper. It is one of the symptoms that it is really good to practice AAF on, as there is nothing you can do about it but live with it as best as you can. Like a bad house guest, ignore it long enough and it will eventually go away. 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
blaine11 Posted October 13, 2015 Author Share Posted October 13, 2015 i can see what you are saying, theres no time frame and thats whats so worrying, i constantly think 'will i be better next year? or 5 years...or never?' etchas anyone been in withdrawal for multiple years and finally one day recovered?would love to hear some positive accounts zoloft - a few years ago, symptoms - low libido and insomnia - returned to normal on discontinuationtramadol (SSRI) - off now from 7 months usage, 150-200mg per day, symptoms - almost non exist libido/sex drive, no pleasurable effects from alcohol, feeling 'not normal' - 16 months clean Link to comment
tgirl Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Blaine, Look under recovery stories. April 2014 remeron 45mg. June 2014 abilify 2.5 remeron wasn't working so abilify was then added September 2014 woke up with anxiety x 100!!!! Pdoc then took me from 45 to 7.5 within a month and took abilify from 2.5 to 0 Currently Remeron 7.5 Vitamin d 5,000 iu taking for about 3 years October 2014 added fish oil/omega 3 1000 mg per day Levothyroxitine 100 10 years or so Dec 2014 started tapering 10% every 10 days-no problems. August 2015 down to 0.1 mg Woke up with severe anxiety-sleep issues-racing thoughts-depression. 9/9/15 up dose 1 mg. Link to comment
blaine11 Posted October 14, 2015 Author Share Posted October 14, 2015 thank you tgirl, that is some amazing stories, im so glad people get through this and become happy againive been on some forums today and someone told me that withdrawal from ssri's can take many years because of 'auto-receptors being stuck'apparently its the main reason why PSSD takes so long to recover from, serotonin receptors are stuck zoloft - a few years ago, symptoms - low libido and insomnia - returned to normal on discontinuationtramadol (SSRI) - off now from 7 months usage, 150-200mg per day, symptoms - almost non exist libido/sex drive, no pleasurable effects from alcohol, feeling 'not normal' - 16 months clean Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted October 14, 2015 Administrator Share Posted October 14, 2015 Blaine, your doctor is highly unusual in that he or she has given any thought at all to "prolonged withdrawal syndrome." What is your doctor's position on tapering? If you can recommend him or her, please add contact information to http://tinyurl.com/7cp8l8v This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Janzio Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Has anyone heard from the user Blaine11 who was posting about 7 years ago? Did he ever recover? It seems like he was having a very long withdrawal period. Link to comment
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