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"Well my ship's been split to splinters and it's sinking fast
I'm drowning in the poison, got no future, got no past
But my heart is not weary, it's light and it's free
I've got nothing but affection for all those who sailed with me.

Everybody's moving, if they ain't already there
Everybody's got to move somewhere
Stick with me baby, stick with me anyhow
Things should start to get interesting right about now."

- Zimmerman

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STEP 12 Getting Rid of TV

 

"Well my ship's been split to splinters and it's sinking fast
I'm drowning in the poison, got no future, got no past
But my heart is not weary, it's light and it's free
I've got nothing but affection for all those who sailed with me.

Everybody's moving, if they ain't already there
Everybody's got to move somewhere
Stick with me baby, stick with me anyhow
Things should start to get interesting right about now."

- Zimmerman

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Alex I am so happy to see you doing so well and hope the new house is a turning point for you. 

 

When my children were small I was a single mum for a while and I talked to the kids about the tv.

I explained that it cost x amount of money and if we got rid of the tv we could go on holiday. They

were so excited that we could go on holiday and were happy to see the tv go.  I told them that

after the holiday I would save up and buy another tv.  

 

We had a fantastic holiday with another family and there in the apartment was a huge tv. It was 

switched on just once and no-one was interested! We didn't get another tv, we did more stuff,

entertained friends and went out all the time. I met my late husband and he moved in with us when

we married. He left his TV behind because he liked the way our life was without it.  It was a good

move then, definitely, and I think it will be a good move for you.  :)

 

 Our tv free days didn't last, but we managed without one for 13 years until hubby became ill. I 

keep thinking about getting rid of it again, maybe you will be the motivation I need to do it!  ;)

**I am not a medical professional, if in doubt please consult a doctor with withdrawal knowledge.

 

 

Different drugs occasionally (mostly benzos) 1976 - 1981 (no problem)

1993 - 2002 in and out of hospital. every type of drug + ECT. Staring with seroxat

2002  effexor. 

Tapered  March 2012 to March 2013, ending with 5 beads.

Withdrawal April 2013 . Reinstated 5 beads reduced to 4 beads May 2013

Restarted taper  Nov 2013  

OFF EFFEXOR Feb 2015    :D 

Tapered atenolol and omeprazole Dec 2013 - May 2014

 

Tapering tramadol, Feb 2015 100mg , March 2015 50mg  

 July 2017 30mg.  May 15 2018 25mg

Taking fish oil, magnesium, B12, folic acid, bilberry eyebright for eye pressure. 

 

My story http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4199-hello-mammap-checking-in/page-33

 

Lesson learned, slow down taper at lower doses. Taper no more than 10% of CURRENT dose if possible

 

 

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STEP #14: I LOVE MY LIFE

 

"Well my ship's been split to splinters and it's sinking fast
I'm drowning in the poison, got no future, got no past
But my heart is not weary, it's light and it's free
I've got nothing but affection for all those who sailed with me.

Everybody's moving, if they ain't already there
Everybody's got to move somewhere
Stick with me baby, stick with me anyhow
Things should start to get interesting right about now."

- Zimmerman

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Are you following Dr. Richard Schulze's regimen?

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

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Are you following Dr. Richard Schulze's regimen?

No, not exactly. But in principle yes. I have made some modifications based on my health situation. I am not taking herbs -- dried organic matter is removed. I started doing a veggie diet a couple weeks ago and it's going extremely well. Raw food, a lot. I take binding clay for colon cleansing, Iike with mycotoxin protocol. These are the basics, then some supps and exercise and sunlight and the etc.

 

I can not blankly endorse it however. Like anything else in my recovery I apply what I have learned to be true as a filter over what the practitioner has found to be true. I work with a clinical nutritionist to muscle test for supps and dosages. The muscle testing with Joe is the best thing I have done for my health. I apply my brain and book knowledge and bring ideas to Joe and he tests and finds the correct supplements and dosages. This has changed everything. THe muscle testing is not perfect but I have made more progress in the last 3 months than the last 3 yrs.

 

All that said, I love these 20 STEPS videos taken from some audio done by Schulze many years ago. They are GRRRRRRRRRRRREAT for motivation and checking my attitude. Have you heard of Schulze before now?

"Well my ship's been split to splinters and it's sinking fast
I'm drowning in the poison, got no future, got no past
But my heart is not weary, it's light and it's free
I've got nothing but affection for all those who sailed with me.

Everybody's moving, if they ain't already there
Everybody's got to move somewhere
Stick with me baby, stick with me anyhow
Things should start to get interesting right about now."

- Zimmerman

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Shame, fear and anger from the past coming up.

 

Trying to eat more beans and rice/ too much I think. Causing back up or metal back up. Mercury triggers anxiety.

 

Trying amino acids now. Maybe BCAA.

"Well my ship's been split to splinters and it's sinking fast
I'm drowning in the poison, got no future, got no past
But my heart is not weary, it's light and it's free
I've got nothing but affection for all those who sailed with me.

Everybody's moving, if they ain't already there
Everybody's got to move somewhere
Stick with me baby, stick with me anyhow
Things should start to get interesting right about now."

- Zimmerman

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Massive setback at new house. Hearing, balance, memory, pain, burning skin ... moldy. I was not careful enough and now I don't know where to go to sleep.

 

Anger. Sad. Fear. Frustration.

"Well my ship's been split to splinters and it's sinking fast
I'm drowning in the poison, got no future, got no past
But my heart is not weary, it's light and it's free
I've got nothing but affection for all those who sailed with me.

Everybody's moving, if they ain't already there
Everybody's got to move somewhere
Stick with me baby, stick with me anyhow
Things should start to get interesting right about now."

- Zimmerman

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I'm sorry. I am so, so sorry. 

 

It is feasible to have a company come in and remove the mold? I had to use a company when my basement was flooded. I wish there was someone/something that could help you find health. 

Current:

Lorazapam2mg: 4/9/152mg - 1.5mg: already sick/nothing noticed. No changes in sleep noted after illness.  

Lamictal: 7/27/13 - 8/6/13: 400mg - 500mg(dr order) mouth sores, headache, cognitive/balance, heart palp...8/7/13 - 8/23/13: 500mg - 400mg; symptoms↓...10/10/13: 350mg; fever/flu-like <2-weeks...12/30/13: 325mg; fever/flu-like symptoms <1-week...2/10/17: 300mg; no significant changes noted. 

 

Discontinued:

Omeprazole: 09/2103 40mg...5/1/14: 20mg... 8/21/14 = 0

Wellbutrin: 11/22/13: 300mg – 225mg...12/6/13 delayed reaction- mood swings, weight↓, heart palp/chest pain, alerting...12/14/13: 187mg; physical symptoms↓, neuro emotions ↑, weight stable...12/20/13: 225mg; physical symptoms return, emotions stable <1-week, weight↓...4/21/14: 187mg; weight↑...5/17/14 (neurologist ordered discontinue asap):168mg; headache, mood swings, ↑weight, sleep flux...5/24/14: 150mg; headache, mood swings, ↓cognitive/balance...6/2/14: 112mg; see above, weight stable, <3-weeks... 6/28/14: 100mg; moody...7/25/14: 87.5mg; family troubles... 8/4/14: 75mg; headaches; moody... 8/9/1450mg headaches... 8/12/14: 37.5mg; 8/17/14: 25mg...8/26/14 = 0

Hydroxyzine; 10mg: 5/20/15 *prn 4/5 times then dc'd. Mood changes/rage 

Buspirone: 7.5mg: 5/20/15 *prn 4/5 times then dc'd. No changes.

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Thanks mattinsmon. I am glad to report that I think I've found problem in new house and mostly ruled out mold. Some sort of gun residue causing reaction. I am so chemically sensitive. We think if we air out the house and wipe down surfaces it will be ok. We need to remove smart meter and wireless alarm system bc EMFs are killing me right now.

 

Did a biomat and it was terrific to take some EMF stress out.

"Well my ship's been split to splinters and it's sinking fast
I'm drowning in the poison, got no future, got no past
But my heart is not weary, it's light and it's free
I've got nothing but affection for all those who sailed with me.

Everybody's moving, if they ain't already there
Everybody's got to move somewhere
Stick with me baby, stick with me anyhow
Things should start to get interesting right about now."

- Zimmerman

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That's a relief that it isn't mold, alex. Hope the fumes air out quickly.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

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Fingers-crossed and prayers that you can resolve whatever the problem is in the new house.  I think you'll be able to follow your healing path more successfully once you are in a stable living environment - at least that is my wish for you.

 

It sounds like you are working with some people who can help you get healthy.

 

Western medicine doesn't understand the devastating effects of acidity in the body.  I think I'm lucky that I ended up landing on this solution and that I started it before I was sensitive to possible juicing candidates.  Today I juice tomato, cucumber, parsley, a little red pepper, a little lemon and carrots.  I probably need to rotate my vegetables and add some more variety, but I really love this juice combination.  Maybe this is what my body needs right now.

 

As always, still rooting for you, Alex.

 

Love and light,

Karma

2007 @ 375 mg Effexor - 11/29/2011 - 43.75 mg Effexor (regular) & .625 mg Xanax

200 mg Gabapentin 2/27/21 - 194.5 mg, 5/28/21 - 183 mg, 8/2/21 - 170 mg, 11/28/21 - 150 mg, 4/19/22 - 122 mg; 8//7/22 - 100 mg; 12/17 - 75mg; 8/17 - 45 mg; 10/16 40 mg
Xanax taper: 3/11/12 - 0.9375 mg, 3/25/12 - 0.875 mg, 4/6/12 - 0.8125 mg, 4/18/12 - 0.75 ; 10/16 40mg;

1/16 0.6875 mg; at some point 0.625 mg
Effexor taper: 1/29/12 - 40.625 mg, 4/29/12 - 39.875 mg, 5/11/12 - Switched to liquid Effexor, 5/25/12 - 38 mg, 7/6/12 - 35 mg, 8/17/12 - 32 mg, 9/14/12 - 30 mg, 10/19/12 - 28 mg, 11/9/12 - 26 mg, 11/30/12 - 24 mg, 01/14/13 - 22 mg. 02/25/13 - 20.8 mg, 03/18/13 - 19.2 mg, 4/15/13 - 17.6 mg, 8/10/13 - 16.4 mg, 9/7/13 - 15.2 mg, 10/19/13 - 14 mg, 1/15/14 - 13.2 mg, 3/1/2014 - 12.6 mg, 5/4/14 - 12 mg, 8/1/14 - 11.4 mg, 8/29/14 - 10.8 mg; 10/14/14 - 10.2 mg; 12/15/14 - 10 mg, 1/11/15 - 9.5 mg, 2/8/15 - 9 mg, 3/21/15 - 8.5 mg, 5/1/15 - 8 mg, 6/9/15 - 7.5 mg, 7/8/15 - 7 mg, 8/22/15 - 6.5 mg, 10/4/15 - 6 mg; 1/1/16 - 5.6 mg; 2/6/16 - 5.2 mg; 4/9 - 4.8 mg; 7/7 4.5 mg; 10/7 4.25 mg; 11/4 4.0 mg; 11/25 3.8 mg; 4/24 3.6 mg; 5/27 3.4 mg; 7/8 3.2 mg ... 10/18 2.8 mg; 1/18 2.6 mg; 4/7 2.4 mg; 5/26 2.15mg; 8/18 1.85 mg; 10/7 1.7 mg; 12/1 1.45 mg; 3/2 1.2 mg; 5/4 0.90 mg; 6/1 0.80 mg; 6/22 0.65 mg; 08/03 0.50 mg, 08/10 0.45 mg, 10/05 0.325 mg, 11/23 0.2 mg, 12/14 0.15 mg, 12/21 0.125 mg, 02/28 0.03125 mg, 2/15 0.015625 mg, 2/29/20 0.00 mg - OFF Effexor


I am not a medical professional - this is not medical advice. My suggestions are based on personal experience, reading, observation and anecdotal information posted by other sufferers

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I love biomats! I'm glad that mold doesn't seem to be a cause, sorry that there is any cause in the first place. Gun residue however? I don't know if I want to know how there came to be residue. I don't know anything about guns so maybe it is a normal byproduct of having them. No matter, I am glad that there seems to be a solution. 

Current:

Lorazapam2mg: 4/9/152mg - 1.5mg: already sick/nothing noticed. No changes in sleep noted after illness.  

Lamictal: 7/27/13 - 8/6/13: 400mg - 500mg(dr order) mouth sores, headache, cognitive/balance, heart palp...8/7/13 - 8/23/13: 500mg - 400mg; symptoms↓...10/10/13: 350mg; fever/flu-like <2-weeks...12/30/13: 325mg; fever/flu-like symptoms <1-week...2/10/17: 300mg; no significant changes noted. 

 

Discontinued:

Omeprazole: 09/2103 40mg...5/1/14: 20mg... 8/21/14 = 0

Wellbutrin: 11/22/13: 300mg – 225mg...12/6/13 delayed reaction- mood swings, weight↓, heart palp/chest pain, alerting...12/14/13: 187mg; physical symptoms↓, neuro emotions ↑, weight stable...12/20/13: 225mg; physical symptoms return, emotions stable <1-week, weight↓...4/21/14: 187mg; weight↑...5/17/14 (neurologist ordered discontinue asap):168mg; headache, mood swings, ↑weight, sleep flux...5/24/14: 150mg; headache, mood swings, ↓cognitive/balance...6/2/14: 112mg; see above, weight stable, <3-weeks... 6/28/14: 100mg; moody...7/25/14: 87.5mg; family troubles... 8/4/14: 75mg; headaches; moody... 8/9/1450mg headaches... 8/12/14: 37.5mg; 8/17/14: 25mg...8/26/14 = 0

Hydroxyzine; 10mg: 5/20/15 *prn 4/5 times then dc'd. Mood changes/rage 

Buspirone: 7.5mg: 5/20/15 *prn 4/5 times then dc'd. No changes.

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What are biomats? I'm glad you've found a controllable solution and it's NOT MOLD--you've had enough of that for a few lifetimes.

 

If you're ever interested, the Gupta program has helped with my chemical sensitivities somewhat, although I haven't worked it the way you're supposed to and probably won't until I'm finished with tapering and withdrawal. I used it enough to be less sensitive to fragrances to the point it's not such a huge issue when traveling any longer, although I still can't sit right next to someone wearing perfume. 

 

going to have to google biomats. 

 

I think I also need to spend less time on computers.

Started on Prozac and Xanax in 1992 for PTSD after an assault. One drug led to more, the usual story. Got sicker and sicker, but believed I needed the drugs for my "underlying disease". Long story...lost everything. Life savings, home, physical and mental health, relationships, friendships, ability to work, everything. Amitryptiline, Prozac, bupropion, buspirone, flurazepam, diazepam, alprazolam, Paxil, citalopram, lamotrigine, gabapentin...probably more I've forgotten. 

Started multidrug taper in Feb 2010.  Doing a very slow microtaper, down to low doses now and feeling SO much better, getting my old personality and my brain back! Able to work full time, have a full social life, and cope with stress better than ever. Not perfect, but much better. After 23 lost years. Big Pharma has a lot to answer for. And "medicine for profit" is just not a great idea.

 

Feb 15 2010:  300 mg Neurontin  200 Lamictal   10 Celexa      0.65 Xanax   and 5 mg Ambien 

Feb 10 2014:   62 Lamictal    1.1 Celexa         0.135 Xanax    1.8 Valium

Feb 10 2015:   50 Lamictal      0.875 Celexa    0.11 Xanax      1.5 Valium

Feb 15 2016:   47.5 Lamictal   0.75 Celexa      0.0875 Xanax    1.42 Valium    

2/12/20             12                       0.045               0.007                   1 

May 2021            7                       0.01                  0.0037                1

Feb 2022            6                      0!!!                     0.00167               0.98                2.5 mg Ambien

Oct 2022       4.5 mg Lamictal    (off Celexa, off Xanax)   0.95 Valium    Ambien, 1/4 to 1/2 of a 5 mg tablet 

 

I'm not a doctor. Any advice I give is just my civilian opinion.

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Thanks All! I am ready to start a juicing program once we are in the house, this is very important for me! I have restored normal blood sugar so I can handle juicing and fruit again!

 

Biomat is a thing, a mat literally. See -> http://hillcountrybiomat.com/ ... It is exceptional at taking the static out of the nerrvous system, my acupuncture has one for fibro patients and I did a 20 minutes. Best for removing bio-electrical stress is bodytalk, a tapping technique done by practitionerr, grounding is great too... get the static out and feel like yourself again, if only for while.

 

I looked into Gupta a while ago, Rhi. You turned me on to it, but so much havoc I never looked into it properly. Still a lot of havoc but I am putting it on my list for when I get a momentary breath of air...

 

QUICK:

Slept in house last night. EMF still pretty bad. Airing out. Crazy fleas at the aparmtent sent us to the house before it is ready. Think it will be ok. Postponed talk therapy w/ dad until 2 weeeks so thing can settle down. I am trying to get to the springs to swim or atleast stand aknkle deep in the grounding natural waters. I am very lucky to have this resource here in ATX.

 

 

GLTA

"Well my ship's been split to splinters and it's sinking fast
I'm drowning in the poison, got no future, got no past
But my heart is not weary, it's light and it's free
I've got nothing but affection for all those who sailed with me.

Everybody's moving, if they ain't already there
Everybody's got to move somewhere
Stick with me baby, stick with me anyhow
Things should start to get interesting right about now."

- Zimmerman

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Fleas!!!!!!

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

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Alex ~

I assume you know of the rampant use of SSRIs for IBS ~some supposedly better for IBS-D (diarrhea) or IBS-C (constipation)~scary and no surprise that these poisons trash the GI system

One more example of drugs causing the problems they are supposed to treat

Ya know, Barb, I never knew about this connection until these recent months that I've been active in my own recovery. Looking back, during some periods of my Drugging, I experienced extreme constipation, particularly when in foreign environments which provoked stress. For instance, I was in. 6 week study abroad in Europe in 2002. I felt very anxious surrounded 24hrs daily by classmates and professors. I did not have a bowel movement, you may find this hard to believe, for probably close to 2 weeks into the trip. When I told my roommate I'd yet to 'go' since we'd been abroad -- by this point we'd been through several cities and accommodations and dozens of meals -- he just couldn't believe it.

 

His exact quote: "I almost swallowed my cigarette just now. How have you not gone... Its been... A long time???? Warn me before you tell me something like that again so I get put my smoke down." .... My roommate was a good guy, actually. He's successful attorney now like most of my college peers. But, thats another post.

 

Anyway, I had the same problem first time I was in inpatient rehab. New environment, stress... No go. I was on dulcolax and miralax for days and days before any progress.

 

Even right now, not had one since Tuesday.

 

Never connected any bowel issues until...well, the crap started when I vomited pizza last Feb... So going on a year of gastro issues...

 

I think though that my bones can't be hopelessly corrupted after a few months of problems. I will bounce back.

 

Pretty soon... Gonna get some traction... :-)

 

this may be of no use to you... it is so old. 

I had complete stomach stopage from cold turkey from Effexor... and a few other things all at the same time... I was not going to add anything till I had finished the entire 30 pages ... but this is getting to me and I need to make a post maybe your beyond the digestive issues now and this is not needed but for others out there.  

 

I don't want to get into too much about myself... but I do want to put up a couple things that worked for me when nothing else did...

 

A cup of warm water with half a lemon.  First thing in the morning or any other time during the day... have all you want it will not hurt you.  This is for motility issues if you have problems with the lemon start off with 4 full glasses of warm water every morning when you wake up put nothing in your stomach till you do this... it is called water therapy and it is the first thing that worked for me I was sent this by a relative.  the program was 4 glasses of water... wait 15 min ... brush you teeth real well eat within one hour of drinking the water... I ate bran often only I tablespoon full... 

I found this after months of not being able to eat... trying many drugs often they made me worse.  I survived on boiled veggies mostly. 

I lost my gallbladder in 98 ... this is a gallbladder remedy ... I use not just for gallbladder but for any gastro low energy stalled gastro..issue .. I switch it up a bit sometimes.

BEETS! 

Raw beets grated with a teaspoon of lemon and teaspoon of olive oil. Eat a tablespoon whenever your side pains... and keep eating till it quits... I think this is the right recipe maybe till I have a chance to check it you should just eat the grated beets it is what I do when it was real bad and I was not up to getting out ...peel the beets. grate them eat them... it does not take long to feel the difference. 

One other thing I found helpful boils flax seeds ... add a sort of fiber that is not fiberous... not sure how to say it... helped a very small amount of this made a huge difference and must be taken in very tiny doses. 

For bran it must be the sticks of all bran.. not the buds and no other kind... no I dont work for them but it is the only one that works I am a believer in this one.

Walking after every meal... 

 

I could not take histamine type acid reducers or most PPI drugs... but had huge acid pain issues after a car accident last year... and while I was on effexor... while on E I looked a picture of my esophagus it was full of sores... it had been burned or something.. no wonder it hurt like hell and I puked blood... yet there I was have severe reactions to every drug the gastro gave me... I mean Emerg serious...this was 2004... I stood at the pharmacy trying to get help in those days I still had my home and a lived in a city where the pharmacist new and like me... he called my doctor and talked him thru why all those other drugs were of the same stripe... ALL were PPI I tried a few with bad reactions each time... the pharmacist suggested pariet... it is a PPI I have no idea what makes it different from the others but he knew and this is the drug that finally helped me.  I am not saying it will work for everyone but some research in how it is different may be worth a look for people who have sores in the pipes sore throat and are reacting badly to other drugs.  I was still functional then and can't say that the pariet did not add to my demise... I can't as I don't know.  I took it again in 2013 after a car accident kicked up all the same issues... but wanted off it asap... and did get off and by using it less and less and taking soda water and tums to treat acid issues. 

 

What made me feel the best was a diet I was on called the fatty liver diet it is where the lemon water idea came from it is a book. After the car accident I have been unable to shop and do all the work the diet requires but I think it helped a great deal 

 

I do not want to take up room in your thread with too much of the Alex but think reading all your old GI issues got me to thinking some of this may be helpful to you or others. Maybe I should have started a new thread of my own but I am still reading your history ... it is my job for today... and I did not want to get lost I have a hard time negotiating this site or have low patients maybe both.  

peace all

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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I have read the 33 page of your introduction.  Finished need time to process.  That is quite a ride Alex. 

Peace to you

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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A couple of things off the top of my head I have read clay can cause a nutritional deficiency tho I have read some people swear it is a good for them.  I researched it as I was thinking of using it. I decided to use activated charcoal instead to help with what I felt was a toxicity in my system... my memory is so bad and all old posts of this experience are deleted I can't say how or if it helped but it did not hurt me.  I react to most everything I have tried be it supplements such as whey powder or vitamin D B6 and few other Bs magnesium except in the bath I can take in the bath ok.  So I have not tried many as I was burned early on.  I can use taurine if I have had too much coffee. 

I am concerned about the bone infection you had and hope it is completely cleared.  To me that is the biggest worry.  As for bone pain and bone grinding ... knee feet shoulder pain and hip grinding I have had all that and think it is related to Effexor withdrawal just my take on it.  I read long ago that ssri ssnri drugs can cause bone problems and did some research on that too.  I was pointed in the right direction by a friend who said drink some Alexander Keiths beer... I thought it was a joke but it turns out to be true.  I did not drink the beer as I cannot tolerate any alcohol ever.  As for the digestive issue mine have been much the same as yours horrid to live thru I know.  Still I use food as much as possible as treatment I have not been as compliant to my program in recent past but I do know what works for me should I need to go back to what heals.  I have done some juicing and believe soups are my holly grail.  Salads at this time of year however most of this take a lot of work which I am just not up to at this point... when I am able I will hopefully go back to what is best.  I have improved a great deal.  I wish you more healing and peace Alex this has been a long road it is time for you to be well.  Peace. 

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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btdt-

Thanks. The bone is ongoing, caused by complications of tricothecene mycotoxicosis, like Kashin_Beck disease, from everything I have been able to gather. I am having a bad day but otherwise was hopeful about it. Clay/charcoal can cause defiencies, I am mindful of this.

 

UPDATE:

Woke up from air mattress w/ 16 welts on legs Sunday morning. Continues to get worse, appears to be infected flea bites. I am seeing a chiropractic doctor today and then will decide what to do. I am infuriated w/ my mother for bringing a garage-sale sweatshirt into the house, which seems ridden w/ fleas.

"Well my ship's been split to splinters and it's sinking fast
I'm drowning in the poison, got no future, got no past
But my heart is not weary, it's light and it's free
I've got nothing but affection for all those who sailed with me.

Everybody's moving, if they ain't already there
Everybody's got to move somewhere
Stick with me baby, stick with me anyhow
Things should start to get interesting right about now."

- Zimmerman

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Put it in the freezer it will stop the fleas. 

Or throw it out. If you have air turn it on real low the fleas will go stupid then vacuum. 

I don't know where you get the energy to go to all the "helping" people you see it exhausts me to think of it... getting to apts has been a big issue for me lately. I don't want to go even when I am real sick. I am tired of them all. 

How did the treat the bone infection? 

What test did the use to find it even. I am thinking there is something more going on with myself but the CBC the last one showed nothing I was told by the emerg doc perhaps because I have been on so many antibiotics of late six since March... so nothing would show up.  I am still feeling very tired and out of sorts have jaw pain too.  I always think it is just from breaking it years ago... but am surprised the antibiotic seemed to make it a lot better that and my foot pain both eased after the emerg antibiotic.  I am trying to hold off as long as I can to see a doc now I want the next test to not be affected by antibiotics ... I wish they would do the blood work before the first antibiotic so they could tell if it was the right one.  Seems to be a small thing to ask... especially now looking back I have been sick since March. 

It may well be that I just need to rest and so I am trying to bounce back. 

I wish you  a winning battle with those fleas I hate them myself and they love me... if I am in a house to two minutes and there is flea in there it will bite me and leave everyone else alone.. no idea why. In a way it is good you have an air mattress and not a real bed as they love to hide in furniture.  

Good luck with the fleas it can be a lot of work getting rid of them.  peace Alex

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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Barton Springs! I remember Austin back in the days when it was still a town, not a city. But as cities go it's a good 'un.

 

Wish I could offer suggestions about the fleas. My daughter and son in law have been struggling with those. We never had them during my 23 years in New Mexico, never even had to treat our pets for them, one advantage of living in a desert. But I think there are less drastic solutions than moving to NM.

 

Now I'm in a place with more normal humidity and right now I'm covered with mosquito bites, so I can relate.

 

I also feel like you're probably still dealing with some of the post-drug withdrawal period, especially the benzos. You really only finished coming off everything last September, and if I recall correctly you came off--not fast, but not extremely slowly. Given your long history on meds and the age at which you started them I expect it's going to be a couple of years to fully normalize your nervous system and there are going to be wobbles with that still. That should continue to settle down and improve for you, especially along with all the good stuff you're doing for yourself now.

Started on Prozac and Xanax in 1992 for PTSD after an assault. One drug led to more, the usual story. Got sicker and sicker, but believed I needed the drugs for my "underlying disease". Long story...lost everything. Life savings, home, physical and mental health, relationships, friendships, ability to work, everything. Amitryptiline, Prozac, bupropion, buspirone, flurazepam, diazepam, alprazolam, Paxil, citalopram, lamotrigine, gabapentin...probably more I've forgotten. 

Started multidrug taper in Feb 2010.  Doing a very slow microtaper, down to low doses now and feeling SO much better, getting my old personality and my brain back! Able to work full time, have a full social life, and cope with stress better than ever. Not perfect, but much better. After 23 lost years. Big Pharma has a lot to answer for. And "medicine for profit" is just not a great idea.

 

Feb 15 2010:  300 mg Neurontin  200 Lamictal   10 Celexa      0.65 Xanax   and 5 mg Ambien 

Feb 10 2014:   62 Lamictal    1.1 Celexa         0.135 Xanax    1.8 Valium

Feb 10 2015:   50 Lamictal      0.875 Celexa    0.11 Xanax      1.5 Valium

Feb 15 2016:   47.5 Lamictal   0.75 Celexa      0.0875 Xanax    1.42 Valium    

2/12/20             12                       0.045               0.007                   1 

May 2021            7                       0.01                  0.0037                1

Feb 2022            6                      0!!!                     0.00167               0.98                2.5 mg Ambien

Oct 2022       4.5 mg Lamictal    (off Celexa, off Xanax)   0.95 Valium    Ambien, 1/4 to 1/2 of a 5 mg tablet 

 

I'm not a doctor. Any advice I give is just my civilian opinion.

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Thanks. The bone is ongoing, caused by complications of tricothecene mycotoxicosis, like Kashin_Beck disease, from everything I have been able to gather. I am having a bad day but otherwise was hopeful about it. Clay/charcoal can cause defiencies, I am mindful of this.

 

UPDATE:

Woke up from air mattress w/ 16 welts on legs Sunday morning. Continues to get worse, appears to be infected flea bites. I am seeing a chiropractic doctor today and then will decide what to do. I am infuriated w/ my mother for bringing a garage-sale sweatshirt into the house, which seems ridden w/ fleas.

From what I can gather there is not much one can do about it.

"Except for supportive therapy (e.g., diet, hydration), there are almost no treatments for mycotoxin exposure, although Fink-Gremmels (80) described a few methods for veterinary management of mycotoxicoses, and there is some evidence that some strains of Lactobacilluseffectively bind dietary mycotoxins (7273). Oltipraz, a drug originally used to treat schistosomiasis, has been tested in Chinese populations environmentally exposed to aflatoxin" 

 

I wonder if you stopped taking everything ate slept and got a bit of normal not excessive exercise ... as in supportive therapy mentioned above if you would feel better. 

 

I have looked at schistosomiasis and the drugs to treat it in the past... loved one who travels a lot has been ill hence my interests in your talk on parasites to begin with.  According the CDC schistosomiasis is not that persons problem as far as I know CDC is the only place close that does this type of work. 

 

I don't know Alex sometimes we think we are helping ourselves and we are not.  I am kind of at that place now... myself.  I found myself at a the doctor again last wk thinking I needed another antibiotic as the kidney pain was still with me. 

 

bit about me hope you don't mind it is to make a point..

I had a seemingly ongoing sinus/lung infection more on than off for a couple of years now.  Also broke a tooth more than two years ago the dentist took his sweet time getting me back in to fix it thought it would be fine for a wk. 

I keep going back about that same tooth a total of three times thinking it feels odd it had a root canal so did not ache as a bad tooth would he kept saying it was a sinus issue nerves are close ect. So off to the doc I would go and get treated... this time I have been on antibiotics twice before I went to see him and had a tiny lump on the gum between two teeth.  He takes anther xray the third one by now... and says it is fine sinus again so I told him I already had antibiotics twice.  Please take a look at this tiny lump so he does and says he has no idea what that is... off to a specialist which I could not afford but went for consult anyway going into debt.  He said the tooth was likely infected when I waited to have it repaired when it broke a few years ago maybe 3 years ago... AH ha so that is why so many sinus infections.  He said it may be more than one tooth as all three have root canals ( I use to have money)  He could fix it at a grand a pop... I can't afford that either so have to shop around and find a person to pull it.  In the mean time that meant two more courses of antibiotics so as my doc says I don't get meningitis lordy.  that made 4 x... my apt is long off the drugs are not working like they did and I call whining they take me in the next day and finally pull the tooth.  Think I am fine... 

Nope next thing kidney infection three days later... more drugs ... they don't work completely go to emerg get even more drugs.  

I was very ill could not get up could not eat. I am scared now.  I still have pain and go back to the clinic ... the doctor there tell me very firmly she will not give me any more antibiotics because I have been on too many already and my body needs to rest now and recover from the drugs and from the time I have been going thru all this... oh and i need to see my own doctor.  Something I have been trying to do but really have not had the energy to do... I have an apt for a couple of wks from now she was away last wk and could not have seen me anyway.  So I tell her all my fears... meningitis there may be more than one infected tooth ... my foot and jaw are hurting again and they had stopped when I was on antibiotics so I think it is coming back... really I don't want to be so sick again I can't eat and am trying to convince her... but nope she held firm.  Seems my fear got the better of me. 

 

I am wondering if this is what you need to ... maybe your fear has got the better of you... without you knowing as at the time I did not really know it...not in my head I was just reacting to it. 

 

So just now I am waiting to see how I do and yes I am still tired I sit all day and don't do much else and I nap a lot.  So what is what I say I will take as long as I need to.  It gives me a lot of time to read and type on here :) 

I am waiting it out to see if I get my energy back the very short time I did not eat well has hit me very hard I can't imagine what losing as much body mass as you have would feel like.  I just wonder if you could eat well and take it easy if it would help. 

 

Please done take offence I am not saying there are not issue but whatever they are maybe they need a bit of time to decide if they are coming to kill you are if they are ready to lay down and make nice.  That is what I am doing waiting for the next reaction in my body I will either gain strength or I will get sick in the mean time I have all this sitting down stuff to do... chat and read. 

 

It is just something for you to consider.  I thought about all the supportive things you have tried I have tried my share too... and I wonder if our bodies at times need to just have a chance to stand on their own two feel... we have all these years of adaptation and maybe just maybe if we leave them alone for a bit and don't poke them with sticks they will figure out what they need and tell us if they can't.  That sounds kind of hokey I know and I don't usually do hokey but this time I am.  I also have this other idea about food I know there is the chance that the disorders we have are telling us what they want to eat parasites or in my case cream... I love cream and butter but my liver doesn't... and I have done the no sugar no flour deal too to kill of yeast and felt great.  Here comes the but ...but I have also felt like I don't have the energy to get across the room too and I have to make some compromises in what I can do to feed myself.  I am not underweight not even close but without food I can't function I get so I can't get up and that is only wk of not eating normally.  It may well be electrolytes are part of this. 

I shopped today as we were out of food good food and I am planning on eating whatever I want till I feel better. One more thing when I was really ill and unable to eat I would get odd food craving for things like beets or green beans... whatever I crave that was not all sugar I ate... I think it helped me it could be like the fear of getting ill again all in my head.  I don't know I have been thru a lot and if it is all in my head well so be it... I think it rather a normal response to yet again another abnormal situation. 

I am suggesting you give it all a rest and rest... seek peace eat and rest some more. Maybe it would help but maybe I am delusional too... it could be I am only human and an imperfect one at that.

I wish you peace.

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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Right now I am distracting myself and stepping away from the fear - maybe obsession a bit of that maybe - to give my body a chance to recover on its own terms best it can and maybe get on with life a bit better maybe.  I think it is worth a shot.  I hope you try it. I can hear this loud voice in my head saying step away from the fear :) and the rut of always being sick... it is time I hope it is right I sure would like to be out enjoying this summer I missed the last one due to surgery I am due a decent summer. 

peace

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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Hi Alex,

 

I'm sorry I haven't been around. I hope you start to feel better being out of the mold!

 

Fleas can be difficult to get rid of so I wish you success on that.

 

I watched your video about getting rid of TV. I had to stop watching anything except Christian stations. The news is definitely not healthy for me. Sometimes other people insist on telling me something negative that was on the news and I wish they wouldn't.

 

Thank you for the times you were supportive to me!

 

HUGS!

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Fleas suck. I ended up having fleas in my house last summer. I felt so powerless and overwhelmed. I used diatomaceous earth *food grade*. I'm not sure how it would work with your sensitivities but it does dry everything out (fleas/bites). 

Current:

Lorazapam2mg: 4/9/152mg - 1.5mg: already sick/nothing noticed. No changes in sleep noted after illness.  

Lamictal: 7/27/13 - 8/6/13: 400mg - 500mg(dr order) mouth sores, headache, cognitive/balance, heart palp...8/7/13 - 8/23/13: 500mg - 400mg; symptoms↓...10/10/13: 350mg; fever/flu-like <2-weeks...12/30/13: 325mg; fever/flu-like symptoms <1-week...2/10/17: 300mg; no significant changes noted. 

 

Discontinued:

Omeprazole: 09/2103 40mg...5/1/14: 20mg... 8/21/14 = 0

Wellbutrin: 11/22/13: 300mg – 225mg...12/6/13 delayed reaction- mood swings, weight↓, heart palp/chest pain, alerting...12/14/13: 187mg; physical symptoms↓, neuro emotions ↑, weight stable...12/20/13: 225mg; physical symptoms return, emotions stable <1-week, weight↓...4/21/14: 187mg; weight↑...5/17/14 (neurologist ordered discontinue asap):168mg; headache, mood swings, ↑weight, sleep flux...5/24/14: 150mg; headache, mood swings, ↓cognitive/balance...6/2/14: 112mg; see above, weight stable, <3-weeks... 6/28/14: 100mg; moody...7/25/14: 87.5mg; family troubles... 8/4/14: 75mg; headaches; moody... 8/9/1450mg headaches... 8/12/14: 37.5mg; 8/17/14: 25mg...8/26/14 = 0

Hydroxyzine; 10mg: 5/20/15 *prn 4/5 times then dc'd. Mood changes/rage 

Buspirone: 7.5mg: 5/20/15 *prn 4/5 times then dc'd. No changes.

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Congrats on reading the whole thread! I'd like to discourage you from trying to understand the pieces so much! Despite their being no treatment, my levels of urinary tricothecenes have been reduced by 60% after 16 months of treatment on the whole body. I will make a full recovery from the mycotoxicosis! Toxins, infections and nutrients deficiencies: I am removing toxins as best, building immune, then immune then rebuild the whole body. If I listened to studies or conventional medical wisdom, I'd be dead by now, for sure.

 

UPDATE:

 

Thinking more likely spider bites, not fleas. They are getting better!

 

Internet be up next week at new house. Continue to air out. Went to Barton Springs 2x last week (!springs still great!), great sleep after!

 

Time to put the plan into effect. As Dr Mary said, "Free yourself!" So I shall try.

"Well my ship's been split to splinters and it's sinking fast
I'm drowning in the poison, got no future, got no past
But my heart is not weary, it's light and it's free
I've got nothing but affection for all those who sailed with me.

Everybody's moving, if they ain't already there
Everybody's got to move somewhere
Stick with me baby, stick with me anyhow
Things should start to get interesting right about now."

- Zimmerman

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I watched your video about getting rid of TV. I had to stop watching anything except Christian stations. The news is definitely not healthy for me. Sometimes other people insist on telling me something negative that was on the news and I wish they wouldn't.

Brilliant tezza!!

 

The news is not my reality, just like Dr Schulze says! In my world, things are actually getting better!

"Well my ship's been split to splinters and it's sinking fast
I'm drowning in the poison, got no future, got no past
But my heart is not weary, it's light and it's free
I've got nothing but affection for all those who sailed with me.

Everybody's moving, if they ain't already there
Everybody's got to move somewhere
Stick with me baby, stick with me anyhow
Things should start to get interesting right about now."

- Zimmerman

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Big hugs, alex.

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Congrats on reading the whole thread! I'd like to discourage you from trying to understand the pieces so much! Despite their being no treatment, my levels of urinary tricothecenes have been reduced by 60% after 16 months of treatment on the whole body. I will make a full recovery from the mycotoxicosis! Toxins, infections and nutrients deficiencies: I am removing toxins as best, building immune, then immune then rebuild the whole body. If I listened to studies or conventional medical wisdom, I'd be dead by now, for sure.

 

UPDATE:

 

Thinking more likely spider bites, not fleas. They are getting better!

 

Internet be up next week at new house. Continue to air out. Went to Barton Springs 2x last week (!springs still great!), great sleep after!

 

Time to put the plan into effect. As Dr Mary said, "Free yourself!" So I shall try.

" I'd like to discourage you from trying to understand the pieces so much!"

Why?

The devil is in the detail for most things. I always want to know like Eve eating the apple I guess.  Not that I can figure it all out but I want to try.  I was kinda hoping to learn something about parasites that I could pass on to a family member and who knows if if it part of my problems too.  You just never know and after all these years and all I have lost I owe it to myself to lift every stone I owe it to the people who love me to as they have suffered too. 

I am glad you not dead and actually improving.  Take good care Alex I wish you peace. 

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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Alex you are sounding better and better!

 

I'm so happy that you have found that going to the springs helps you sleep.  We each have to find what works for us in our individual situation.

 

I'm still rooting for you.

 

Karma

2007 @ 375 mg Effexor - 11/29/2011 - 43.75 mg Effexor (regular) & .625 mg Xanax

200 mg Gabapentin 2/27/21 - 194.5 mg, 5/28/21 - 183 mg, 8/2/21 - 170 mg, 11/28/21 - 150 mg, 4/19/22 - 122 mg; 8//7/22 - 100 mg; 12/17 - 75mg; 8/17 - 45 mg; 10/16 40 mg
Xanax taper: 3/11/12 - 0.9375 mg, 3/25/12 - 0.875 mg, 4/6/12 - 0.8125 mg, 4/18/12 - 0.75 ; 10/16 40mg;

1/16 0.6875 mg; at some point 0.625 mg
Effexor taper: 1/29/12 - 40.625 mg, 4/29/12 - 39.875 mg, 5/11/12 - Switched to liquid Effexor, 5/25/12 - 38 mg, 7/6/12 - 35 mg, 8/17/12 - 32 mg, 9/14/12 - 30 mg, 10/19/12 - 28 mg, 11/9/12 - 26 mg, 11/30/12 - 24 mg, 01/14/13 - 22 mg. 02/25/13 - 20.8 mg, 03/18/13 - 19.2 mg, 4/15/13 - 17.6 mg, 8/10/13 - 16.4 mg, 9/7/13 - 15.2 mg, 10/19/13 - 14 mg, 1/15/14 - 13.2 mg, 3/1/2014 - 12.6 mg, 5/4/14 - 12 mg, 8/1/14 - 11.4 mg, 8/29/14 - 10.8 mg; 10/14/14 - 10.2 mg; 12/15/14 - 10 mg, 1/11/15 - 9.5 mg, 2/8/15 - 9 mg, 3/21/15 - 8.5 mg, 5/1/15 - 8 mg, 6/9/15 - 7.5 mg, 7/8/15 - 7 mg, 8/22/15 - 6.5 mg, 10/4/15 - 6 mg; 1/1/16 - 5.6 mg; 2/6/16 - 5.2 mg; 4/9 - 4.8 mg; 7/7 4.5 mg; 10/7 4.25 mg; 11/4 4.0 mg; 11/25 3.8 mg; 4/24 3.6 mg; 5/27 3.4 mg; 7/8 3.2 mg ... 10/18 2.8 mg; 1/18 2.6 mg; 4/7 2.4 mg; 5/26 2.15mg; 8/18 1.85 mg; 10/7 1.7 mg; 12/1 1.45 mg; 3/2 1.2 mg; 5/4 0.90 mg; 6/1 0.80 mg; 6/22 0.65 mg; 08/03 0.50 mg, 08/10 0.45 mg, 10/05 0.325 mg, 11/23 0.2 mg, 12/14 0.15 mg, 12/21 0.125 mg, 02/28 0.03125 mg, 2/15 0.015625 mg, 2/29/20 0.00 mg - OFF Effexor


I am not a medical professional - this is not medical advice. My suggestions are based on personal experience, reading, observation and anecdotal information posted by other sufferers

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Checking in to see how things are going. I hear hope in your voice - sounds good!

Current:

Lorazapam2mg: 4/9/152mg - 1.5mg: already sick/nothing noticed. No changes in sleep noted after illness.  

Lamictal: 7/27/13 - 8/6/13: 400mg - 500mg(dr order) mouth sores, headache, cognitive/balance, heart palp...8/7/13 - 8/23/13: 500mg - 400mg; symptoms↓...10/10/13: 350mg; fever/flu-like <2-weeks...12/30/13: 325mg; fever/flu-like symptoms <1-week...2/10/17: 300mg; no significant changes noted. 

 

Discontinued:

Omeprazole: 09/2103 40mg...5/1/14: 20mg... 8/21/14 = 0

Wellbutrin: 11/22/13: 300mg – 225mg...12/6/13 delayed reaction- mood swings, weight↓, heart palp/chest pain, alerting...12/14/13: 187mg; physical symptoms↓, neuro emotions ↑, weight stable...12/20/13: 225mg; physical symptoms return, emotions stable <1-week, weight↓...4/21/14: 187mg; weight↑...5/17/14 (neurologist ordered discontinue asap):168mg; headache, mood swings, ↑weight, sleep flux...5/24/14: 150mg; headache, mood swings, ↓cognitive/balance...6/2/14: 112mg; see above, weight stable, <3-weeks... 6/28/14: 100mg; moody...7/25/14: 87.5mg; family troubles... 8/4/14: 75mg; headaches; moody... 8/9/1450mg headaches... 8/12/14: 37.5mg; 8/17/14: 25mg...8/26/14 = 0

Hydroxyzine; 10mg: 5/20/15 *prn 4/5 times then dc'd. Mood changes/rage 

Buspirone: 7.5mg: 5/20/15 *prn 4/5 times then dc'd. No changes.

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I haven't been posting since Alto told me what's bannable. My opinions at this moment are now outside the rules. Realizing this caused me anger and regret. I care about y'all who I go back w/ and will stay up w/ emal and PM. But I am retired from posting on the forum.

GLTA!

Alex

"Well my ship's been split to splinters and it's sinking fast
I'm drowning in the poison, got no future, got no past
But my heart is not weary, it's light and it's free
I've got nothing but affection for all those who sailed with me.

Everybody's moving, if they ain't already there
Everybody's got to move somewhere
Stick with me baby, stick with me anyhow
Things should start to get interesting right about now."

- Zimmerman

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Blessings to you on your journey

Current:

Lorazapam2mg: 4/9/152mg - 1.5mg: already sick/nothing noticed. No changes in sleep noted after illness.  

Lamictal: 7/27/13 - 8/6/13: 400mg - 500mg(dr order) mouth sores, headache, cognitive/balance, heart palp...8/7/13 - 8/23/13: 500mg - 400mg; symptoms↓...10/10/13: 350mg; fever/flu-like <2-weeks...12/30/13: 325mg; fever/flu-like symptoms <1-week...2/10/17: 300mg; no significant changes noted. 

 

Discontinued:

Omeprazole: 09/2103 40mg...5/1/14: 20mg... 8/21/14 = 0

Wellbutrin: 11/22/13: 300mg – 225mg...12/6/13 delayed reaction- mood swings, weight↓, heart palp/chest pain, alerting...12/14/13: 187mg; physical symptoms↓, neuro emotions ↑, weight stable...12/20/13: 225mg; physical symptoms return, emotions stable <1-week, weight↓...4/21/14: 187mg; weight↑...5/17/14 (neurologist ordered discontinue asap):168mg; headache, mood swings, ↑weight, sleep flux...5/24/14: 150mg; headache, mood swings, ↓cognitive/balance...6/2/14: 112mg; see above, weight stable, <3-weeks... 6/28/14: 100mg; moody...7/25/14: 87.5mg; family troubles... 8/4/14: 75mg; headaches; moody... 8/9/1450mg headaches... 8/12/14: 37.5mg; 8/17/14: 25mg...8/26/14 = 0

Hydroxyzine; 10mg: 5/20/15 *prn 4/5 times then dc'd. Mood changes/rage 

Buspirone: 7.5mg: 5/20/15 *prn 4/5 times then dc'd. No changes.

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Confused about this bannable thing. Sent a note to alexejice.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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I guess that is the end of it then sad to see you go I wish you peace... and health.  B

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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