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[Junglechicken]

Pain under left arm has completely gone. 

 

Shows how dangerous HA is for potentially allowing oneself to spiral out of control.

 

As my husband always tells me; think of the most obvious cause first!  If it persists for weeks then it needs to be checked out.

 

[Junglechicken]

18 hours ago, Cocopuffz17 said:

Dang, that is very little sleep. He definitely has time to catch up now!

 

I would relate alot of that to the challenges you are having. The gut controls everything. They foods we eat have a lot more effect on us than we ever thought.

 

Yes, I was unable to do 1 push up with crushing fatigue 5-6 months ago. I now do 150 - 300 daily. I still get waves that are challenging, but they hit no where as hard as they used to.

 

I notice when I stray away from the nutrition practises of Dr.G I almost instantly get hit with waves or bothersome symptoms. I have been following his program for about 17 months now. It has powered me through this, along with this community, as well as my mindset shift that I will never let WD's win. I've had so much pain going through this and I will not stop till I get the reward of being WD free. I already have the reward of being medication free after being told I would never come off this medication in my life. 

 

Everyday that passes is one day closer to being healed!!! 

 

I will check Dr G's protocol out.

 

That's an incredible amount of push ups Coco, I'd die after doing one!

 

It helps that you're very focused on your healing, and you will heal.  

 

On too many occasions I lack willpower by eating inflammatory foods.  By that I mean foods that trigger histamine reactions specifically (chocolate for one).

 

Anyway, not sure when I'll be able to touch base with my NP, to get tested for various gut issues.  I'm having some bloodwork done this week as a start.

 

By virtue of your attitude and willpower, you will heal much quicker.

[Junglechicken]

I note Dr G's "Plant Paradox" diet is along the lines of Palaeo, no lechtin.

 

No grains, dairy, eggs, nightshade veggies, beans and pulses.

 

Before heading in any particular protocol direction, I will have to consult my NP/nutritionist.

 

Were you told to go on that protocol Coco, or did you decide to just follow it?

 

[Cocopuffz17]

12 minutes ago, Junglechicken said:

I note Dr G's "Plant Paradox" diet is along the lines of Palaeo, no lechtin.

 

No grains, dairy, eggs, nightshade veggies, beans and pulses.

 

Before heading in any particular protocol direction, I will have to consult my NP/nutritionist.

 

Were you told to go on that protocol Coco, or did you decide to just follow it?

 

 

 

I just went on it. I had followed a Paleo diet and had a decent amount of success with my hair regrowth, but not 100% and never had results in lessening my other health conditions. I stopped doing it and went back to my standard lifestyle, my health predictably got worse as I was doing the exact same thing that got me in that place to begin with. With doing some reading I came across this lifestyle and have been following it for about 17 ish months. I have had great success. I know when I don't follow it I get smashed with WD symptoms.

 

My doctors here have been relatively useless TBH. I continually get told my blood tests are fine and that everything is coming back good. BUT then why is my own immune system destroying my body. I have had the best results with following this lifestyle and have read 100's if not 1000's of stories of people reversing life long health conditions with changing the food they eat. 

 

Everyday that passes is one day closer to being healed

[Cocopuffz17]

33 minutes ago, Junglechicken said:

 

I will check Dr G's protocol out.

 

That's an incredible amount of push ups Coco, I'd die after doing one!

 

It helps that you're very focused on your healing, and you will heal.  

 

On too many occasions I lack willpower by eating inflammatory foods.  By that I mean foods that trigger histamine reactions specifically (chocolate for one).

 

Anyway, not sure when I'll be able to touch base with my NP, to get tested for various gut issues.  I'm having some bloodwork done this week as a start.

 

By virtue of your attitude and willpower, you will heal much quicker.

 

I use to be unable to do 1 when the worst of fatigue from withdrawals was here. I just kept at it... adding one each day and then some days I would go back to 1 or 2. I just kept pushing. Never give up!

 

Yes, I made a choice that I will not make any excuses anymore. I will take control of the situation. It is my responsibility to figure it out. I have had so many doctor tell me it can't be done or you'll just have to live with it. Get out of here with that negative mindset. 

 

It is challenging.... It happens. I have done it myself and have paid the price for it. I end up feeling terrible for 1-2 weeks after a few bad meals. It is a sobering reminder to have self love and do what makes me feel great ! 

 

Thanks! Yes, I used to throw myself a pity party.... in reality that does **** all. It doesn't get you any closer to a positive outcome and makes you feel worse, it is just a waste of energy. Use that energy to find a solution and improve on yourself to get out of the rut! If I can do it , anyone can! Use the energy to find solutions, not make more problems.! 

 

Everyday that passes is one day closer to being healed!! 

[Junglechicken]

Right calf muscle re-injured but not torn....yet.  Took some ibuprofen after lunch.

 

Had to fast for what ended up being about 14-15 hrs for glucose/anaemia blood work, as the appointment was at 11:20am.  Also full blood count and cealiac, vit B6 to name a few.

 

Fortunately I got this appointment, as there won't be any more for 3-4 wks now.

 

I spent 2-3 hrs digging my alottment on Sunday, cleaning on Monday, up a ladder into the attic yesterday followed by a walk.

 

It started to feel painful last night and woke me up.

 

Joint therapy session in 20 mins time online.

[Junglechicken]

All bloodwork came out as "normal" EXCEPT for Serum C Reactive Protein, which came out as "ABNORMAL".

 

The "normal" range is 0-4 mg/L

Mine is 5 mg/L (3 years ago it was 2 mg/L)

 

The surgery didn't call me to discuss,  probably because they've got more important stuff going on, i.e COVID-19.

C-reactive protein is a substance that the liver makes in response to inflammation. The C-reactive protein test measures the amount of this protein in the blood. The test can help to diagnose acute and chronic conditions that cause inflammation.

 

I figured I had a REALLY bad case of inflammation in the gut.  ACTION REQUIRED!

[Cocopuffz17]

1 hour ago, Junglechicken said:

All bloodwork came out as "normal" EXCEPT for Serum C Reactive Protein, which came out as "ABNORMAL".

 

The "normal" range is 0-4 mg/L

Mine is 5 mg/L (3 years ago it was 2 mg/L)

 

The surgery didn't call me to discuss,  probably because they've got more important stuff going on, i.e COVID-19.

C-reactive protein is a substance that the liver makes in response to inflammation. The C-reactive protein test measures the amount of this protein in the blood. The test can help to diagnose acute and chronic conditions that cause inflammation.

 

I figured I had a REALLY bad case of inflammation in the gut.  ACTION REQUIRED!

 

That is good everything else came back good. So what is the action plan on the C-reactive protein challenge?

[Junglechicken]

8 hours ago, Cocopuffz17 said:

 

That is good everything else came back good. So what is the action plan on the C-reactive protein challenge?

 

That would be an anti-inflammatory diet Coco 😊👍

 

I'm also thinking of buying a juicer.

 

 

[Junglechicken]

6 hours ago, Junglechicken said:

 

That would be an anti-inflammatory diet Coco 😊👍

 

I'm also thinking of buying a juicer.

 

 

 

Ongoing "fun" with my right calf.

 

It's as though it never properly healed, and keeps getting injured.

 

On ibuprofen.

[Cocopuffz17]

9 hours ago, Junglechicken said:

 

That would be an anti-inflammatory diet Coco 😊👍

 

I'm also thinking of buying a juicer.

 

 

That is great. The nutrition lifestyle I follow is great at that!! Reducing inflammation

 

2 hours ago, Junglechicken said:

 

Ongoing "fun" with my right calf.

 

It's as though it never properly healed, and keeps getting injured.

 

On ibuprofen.

 

That is a pain. Have you ever though of going to Tylenol. NSAID's are terrible for gut health. I personally don't take any meds anymore. 

[Junglechicken]

4 hours ago, Cocopuffz17 said:

That is great. The nutrition lifestyle I follow is great at that!! Reducing inflammation

 

 

That is a pain. Have you ever though of going to Tylenol. NSAID's are terrible for gut health. I personally don't take any meds anymore. 

 

Ah, yes, my osteo advised Tylenol (paracetamol) over ibuprofen.  My gut doesn't like ibuprofen!

 

How do you manage muscle pain without NSAIDS Coco?  Regular physio etc?

 

In light of no NP for several weeks, I'll have to go it alone.

[Cocopuffz17]

13 minutes ago, Junglechicken said:

 

Ah, yes, my osteo advised Tylenol (paracetamol) over ibuprofen.  My gut doesn't like ibuprofen!

 

How do you manage muscle pain without NSAIDS Coco?  Regular physio etc?

 

In light of no NP for several weeks, I'll have to go it alone.

Yea,  ibu are nsaids and they devastate your microbiome. I just powered through. I have not taken a single pain med in the last 17 ish months! 

[Junglechicken]

7 minutes ago, Cocopuffz17 said:

Yea,  ibu are nsaids and they devastate your microbiome. I just powered through. I have not taken a single pain med in the last 17 ish months! 

 

That's awesome Coco!

 

I have a lot to learn from you.  

 

 

[Junglechicken]

One observation. 

 

Since having the mirena coil removed, I haven't had one of those awful sinus headaches.

 

It's only been a week, so we'll see.

 

Weight hasn't dropped off (yet).

 

Mood is ok.

[Cocopuffz17]

17 hours ago, Junglechicken said:

 

That's awesome Coco!

 

I have a lot to learn from you.  

 

 

 We all have lots to learn from everyone!  

The big thing I've learned is a majority of medications we use are good for acute short term relief and cause long term chronic health problems. 

5 hours ago, Junglechicken said:

One observation. 

 

Since having the mirena coil removed, I haven't had one of those awful sinus headaches.

 

It's only been a week, so we'll see.

 

Weight hasn't dropped off (yet).

 

Mood is ok.

 

That is great to hear 🙂 

[Junglechicken]

2 minutes ago, Cocopuffz17 said:

 We all have lots to learn from everyone!  

The big thing I've learned is a majority of medications we use are good for acute short term relief and cause long term chronic health problems. 

 

That is great to hear 🙂 

 

True, but I'm learning from you at the moment!

 

These drugs are just band aids, that don't actually cure anything. 

 

My guess is, that by blocking one "system" the body compensates through another.  E.g. the harm done by ADs to the gut causes inflammation; which may present itself on the skin (the skin is another organ).  I had eczema for nearly a year all over my upper body and face.  Only by going on an anti-inflammatory diet changed that, as well as therapy.

 

That's why I believe NPs and osteopaths have the holistic knowledge that MDs are missing.

 

It is my hope, that naturopathy gains more recognition and respect by allopathic medicine.  By that, I mean that allopathic doctors may start referring patients to NPs (in future).

 

For this to happen, allopathic doctors would have to receive training in NP concepts as part of their med school syllabus.

 

 

 

 

[Junglechicken]

Spoke to my GP who advised that a CRP result of 5 IS normal.

 

They worry if people have a result of 2-300 mg/L!

 

It has increased since 2017, so I'll have to look at reducing it to within normal range.

 

Looking forward to working again.  My mind wont have the time to focus on any of this stuff.

[Cocopuffz17]

On 3/29/2020 at 11:18 AM, Junglechicken said:

 

True, but I'm learning from you at the moment!

 

These drugs are just band aids, that don't actually cure anything. 

 

My guess is, that by blocking one "system" the body compensates through another.  E.g. the harm done by ADs to the gut causes inflammation; which may present itself on the skin (the skin is another organ).  I had eczema for nearly a year all over my upper body and face.  Only by going on an anti-inflammatory diet changed that, as well as therapy.

 

That's why I believe NPs and osteopaths have the holistic knowledge that MDs are missing.

 

It is my hope, that naturopathy gains more recognition and respect by allopathic medicine.  By that, I mean that allopathic doctors may start referring patients to NPs (in future).

 

For this to happen, allopathic doctors would have to receive training in NP concepts as part of their med school syllabus.

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, exactly! They do not. They are bandaids.

 

Very interesting. I have talked to sooo many people who have or are on AD's and have autoimmune conditions. These drugs effect so much more than what the pharma companies say! 

 

Yes, they are on the right path with using food as medicine and going for the root cause. 

 

Have a great day! 

[Junglechicken]

Slightly raised temperature today of 37.1 C ☹️

 

My "normal" is 36.5 C

 

Feel a bit under the weather.

 

Will have to monitor.  

[Junglechicken]

1 hour ago, Junglechicken said:

Slightly raised temperature today of 37.1 C ☹️

 

My "normal" is 36.5 C

 

Feel a bit under the weather.

 

Will have to monitor.  

 

False alarm - HA to blame.

 

Spent the whole afternoon cooking which elevated my temperature.  Now back to normal.

 

Got to get a grip.

[Frogie]

3 hours ago, Junglechicken said:

Slightly raised temperature today of 37.1 C ☹️

 

My "normal" is 36.5 C

 

Feel a bit under the weather.

 

Will have to monitor.  

Hi JC:

 

I hope you feel better soon. 
 

Take care,

 Frogie xx

 

 

[Junglechicken]

8 minutes ago, Frogie said:

Hi JC:

 

I hope you feel better soon. 
 

Take care,

 Frogie xx

 

 

 

Very kind of you Frogie 😍

 

It was a moment of weakness on my part (HA).

 

My temperature went back to normal later on.  I had been cooking all afternoon which raised it, lol.

 

Hope you have a Happy Easter 🐣

 

Hugs,

JC xxx

 

[sunnysideup69]

Hello! How are you doing, @Junglechicken? Hoping you're doing well xxx

[Junglechicken]

5 minutes ago, sunnysideup69 said:

Hello! How are you doing, @Junglechicken? Hoping you're doing well xxx

 

Hi Sunny!

 

Thank you so much for asking 🙂

 

Not interesting at all as I have been very much in "lockdown" mode, with the added fun of being very perimenopausal (LOL!).

 

Keeping sane by cycling, rowing, and doing plenty of gardening; experimenting with new cooking recipes, and listing stuff I don't need on Ebay to help pay for smaller projects around the house.

 

Have also got to start "up-skilling", and have signed up for a load of Open University FREE courses.  Am failing in this department though ☹️

 

I have been thinking of you, and hope you're being gentle on yourself.

 

HUGS,

JC xxx

 

 

[sunnysideup69]

3 minutes ago, Junglechicken said:

 

 

I have been thinking of you, and hope you're being gentle on yourself.

 

HUGS,

JC xxx

 

 

 

Aaw, thank you! Yes, I've been taking it easy, just gentle exercise and reaching out to friends. A bit wavey but that's how it goes.Also been doing a fair bit of gardening, some reading, some work online. Just taking things slowly.

xxx

[Frogie]

1 hour ago, Junglechicken said:

 

Hi Sunny!

 

Thank you so much for asking 🙂

 

Not interesting at all as I have been very much in "lockdown" mode, with the added fun of being very perimenopausal (LOL!).

 

Keeping sane by cycling, rowing, and doing plenty of gardening; experimenting with new cooking recipes, and listing stuff I don't need on Ebay to help pay for smaller projects around the house.

 

Have also got to start "up-skilling", and have signed up for a load of Open University FREE courses.  Am failing in this department though ☹️

 

I have been thinking of you, and hope you're being gentle on yourself.

 

HUGS,

JC xxx

 

 

Hey JC!

 

 I’m glad you are doing so well.

 

Sounds like you’re keeping busy, gardening, exercising, and back in school. Awesome😊

 

I’ve been wondering about you. How’s your lockdown going? They are starting to open some things up here. Kinda scary because people only care about themselves, not anyone else. I guess time will tell.

 

Take care,

 Frogie xx

[Junglechicken]

On 5/14/2020 at 3:00 PM, Frogie said:

Hey JC!

 

 I’m glad you are doing so well.

 

Sounds like you’re keeping busy, gardening, exercising, and back in school. Awesome😊

 

I’ve been wondering about you. How’s your lockdown going? They are starting to open some things up here. Kinda scary because people only care about themselves, not anyone else. I guess time will tell.

 

Take care,

 Frogie xx

 

 

Hi Frogie,

 

Forgive me for not replying sooner.

 

For those of us who have evaded this terrible virus, its been an opportunity to do some nice things, whilst working around temporary inconveniences.

 

The UK government is trying to figure out how to implement a taper back to "new normal".  The retail, restaurant and travel sectors have been massively hit with huge job cuts and businesses that have been relying on the government "furlough" initiative, are facing reductions in funding as this initiative will have to be stretched through to Fall.

 

I'm waiting for a start date for my new job, and my hubby has been working from home.  

 

Italy is starting to lift its lockdown measures, but as this strain of virus has the potential to impact globally for a number of years to come, it will definitely change the way we do things going forward.

 

Take care,

 

JC xxx

[Frogie]

3 hours ago, Junglechicken said:

 

 

Hi Frogie,

 

Forgive me for not replying sooner.

 

For those of us who have evaded this terrible virus, its been an opportunity to do some nice things, whilst working around temporary inconveniences.

 

The UK government is trying to figure out how to implement a taper back to "new normal".  The retail, restaurant and travel sectors have been massively hit with huge job cuts and businesses that have been relying on the government "furlough" initiative, are facing reductions in funding as this initiative will have to be stretched through to Fall.

 

I'm waiting for a start date for my new job, and my hubby has been working from home.  

 

Italy is starting to lift its lockdown measures, but as this strain of virus has the potential to impact globally for a number of years to come, it will definitely change the way we do things going forward.

 

Take care,

 

JC xxx

Hi JC:

 

We have been through it haven’t we? I know of 4 people that got the virus. One was in the hospital for 5 days. Then, my girlfriend of 50 years, her father was taken by ambulance a week ago Saturday and sad to say passed away a week ago today. It was so sudden. So, I guess that makes 5.

 

Our state is starting to open up. No restaurants are open to eat in, only curbside pickup and delivery. But we have been doing that for groceries all along. We did have to go get Mother’s Day cards and gifts. I won’t go back to that store. They were like animals let out of cages! 
 

I think our “new normal “ will be a lot different than anyone has thought. Safety is all I’m concerned about.

 

 I hope you’re able to start your job soon. “Hubby” went back to work 2 weeks ago after being furloughed since March 17.
 

On a good note, I get to see my granddaughter this weekend. Even though we can’t go shopping or out to eat, we are going to make cookies and watch movies. So happy note there!
 

I hope you’re doing well despite all of this.😊

 

Take care,

 Frogie xx

Edited May 19, 2020 by Frogie

[Junglechicken]

My husband has just been disinherited by his covert narcissistic mother.

 

This has been "on the cards" for a very long time.

 

She wrote in her letter, "I was going to do it anyway".

 

For the first time, he actually said he was angry about it (an emotion he was never allowed to have around her).

 

Frankly, good riddance of the toxic old b***h.  She didn't deserve to be a mother, and should never have become one.

[sunnysideup69]

God, with mums like that, who needs enemies?! It sounds like it's definitely in his best interests.....still, a deeply unpleasant experience to go through.

 

Lots of love to you both xxx

[Junglechicken]

51 minutes ago, sunnysideup69 said:

God, with mums like that, who needs enemies?! It sounds like it's definitely in his best interests.....still, a deeply unpleasant experience to go through.

 

Lots of love to you both xxx

 

Yes, it is in his best interests to be AS FAR AWAY as possible from her.  

 

HOWEVER, she is relentless in her pursuit "for answers" from HIM, "for the truth" etc., as though its ALL ON HIM, and nothing to do with her (i.e she is not responsible at all for the dynamic of their relationship)…...such is dealing with a covert narcissist.

 

How are you Sunny? 

 

Lots of love to you too xxx

[Junglechicken]

On 5/19/2020 at 3:22 PM, Frogie said:

Hi JC:

 

We have been through it haven’t we? I know of 4 people that got the virus. One was in the hospital for 5 days. Then, my girlfriend of 50 years, her father was taken by ambulance a week ago Saturday and sad to say passed away a week ago today. It was so sudden. So, I guess that makes 5.

 

Our state is starting to open up. No restaurants are open to eat in, only curbside pickup and delivery. But we have been doing that for groceries all along. We did have to go get Mother’s Day cards and gifts. I won’t go back to that store. They were like animals let out of cages! 
 

I think our “new normal “ will be a lot different than anyone has thought. Safety is all I’m concerned about.

 

 I hope you’re able to start your job soon. “Hubby” went back to work 2 weeks ago after being furloughed since March 17.
 

On a good note, I get to see my granddaughter this weekend. Even though we can’t go shopping or out to eat, we are going to make cookies and watch movies. So happy note there!
 

I hope you’re doing well despite all of this.😊

 

Take care,

 Frogie xx

 

Hi Frogie,

 

I don't actually know of anyone personally who got the virus, and I'm so sorry for your losses.  That's a lot of people.

 

Our NHS (National Health Service) has been AMAZING, despite being put under huge pressure with minimal resources.  Every Thursday at 8pm people can clap for the NHS outside of their houses.  There are pictures of rainbows drawn by kids in the windows of most houses over here, and thank you banners all over the place.

 

Apparently our pubs will be re-open in July (not definite), but hopeful. I went to a local garden centre this morning (they were re-opened last Wednesday), and needless to say had run out of corn-on-the-cob and zucchini seed packets! No biggie, will try another place.

 

The lovely weather has returned, the garden is in full bloom (and my allotment is coming along nicely), AND of course we both have our health - Grateful for all.

 

Enjoy spending time with your granddaughter again (no doubt she'll be excited to see her Gran once after such a long time!).  Can't beat cookies and movies!!

 

Take care Frogie,

 

Hugs,

JC xxx

 

 

 

 

[sunnysideup69]

@Junglechicken, sounds really tough, you definitely don't need her creating that kind of drama!

 

I'm doing okay. Over the last week or so, anxiety levels have dropped a bit and I'm having better days. Some days I'm still exhausted- usually after therapy, when I've been talking about grieving. Eg yesterday, had a three hour rest afterwards ! But over all, doing okay  

[Junglechicken]

Just now, sunnysideup69 said:

@Junglechicken, sounds really tough, you definitely don't need her creating that kind of drama!

 

I'm doing okay. Over the last week or so, anxiety levels have dropped a bit and I'm having better days. Some days I'm still exhausted- usually after therapy, when I've been talking about grieving. Eg yesterday, had a three hour rest afterwards ! But over all, doing okay  

 

Unfortunately, they LIVE for drama!

 

Grieving is exhausting, and its good that you're listening to your body, and resting when it needs to rest.  A double bereavement is a huge thing to process, even more so as they were your siblings.

 

I got hit with grief after visiting my father's memorial tree at the weekend.  We watched a Star Wars movie, when we got back, and I was in floods towards the end.  It still hasn't sunk in that he's gone (over 2 years since he died).  My brain refuses to accept it.

 

Sending you HUGS xxxxx

 

 

[sunnysideup69]

On 5/20/2020 at 5:24 PM, Junglechicken said:

 

I got hit with grief after visiting my father's memorial tree at the weekend.  We watched a Star Wars movie, when we got back, and I was in floods towards the end.  It still hasn't sunk in that he's gone (over 2 years since he died).  My brain refuses to accept it.

 

Sending you HUGS xxxxx

 

 

 

Hey @Junglechicken,

I was wondering how you are doing? Thank you so much for that message, above! I must have missed it....my head was very much in the shock of losing my brother and sister. Six months on and I'm still only just beginning to process it. It's going to take a long time.....

Anyway, main reason for my visit was to say, how are you?