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Jin

Hi Everyone

 

I need advise from people suffering from PSSD and also managing their relationships with their partners both on emotional and physical level. Is there any medication or supplement that is helping you to have an intercourse? I am in a relationship but I am really worried about her. I don't want her to suffer because of me but at the same time I don't want to lose her either. I have already lost so much in my life, I wont be able to take one more loss.

 

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NoMeaning25

Do you have complete PSSD or what is the situation? Did you explain it to her and what did she say?

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Jin

Yes I have complete PSSD for more than 4 years. I have not taken any ssri since I crashed and only observed worsening of systems. No erection penile numbness emotional numbness e.t.c.

I just want to know is it possible to successfull relationship even with PSSD. I am very nervous as I have no sexual functionality left what so ever.

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Jin

I don't think she would understand PSSD. How would I explain to her that I have inability to express and feel love. Sometimes I think it's better to back off and don't make her life miserable. But then it feels impossible for me to continue living like this.

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Theon

If you don't try to explain to her, you will never know... I think being a good person has nothing to do with feeling love or feeling whatever. Nobody chooses their feelings, so they are not our responsibility. What is our responsibility is how we react to them... Remember that our actions are what define us, not our feelings... 

 

I'm curious, Jin, which meds did you take and for how long? 4 years is a long time having pssd.

 

Wishing you the best.

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johnson

Just wondering if you are taking anything else such as Anti-Anxiety meds or any other kind of pills or supplements?

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Jin

I took all kind of ssris from age 21 to 24. Last ssri that I took was paxil for 3 weeks. Because of the side effects my doc switched me from Paxil to trazodone. Initially my libido and erection were extremely high on Trazodone then after few days I felt discomfort in the prostate followed by sudden crash. I am not sure if the trazodone is culprit or was it paxil. When I switched from paxil my libido completely recovered so most likely trazodone did something wrong. Since then I have been suffering from PSSD with no improvement what so ever :(. And also suffering from severe chronic pelvic pain. LIFE IS A BIG NOW!

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Jin

Johnson I am only taking klonopin .25 mg and Inderal 20mg. No supplements

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johnson

Did you ever read the side effects of Inderal? I believe klonopin might also be contributing to sexual dysfunction.

 

I'm not saying that this is the only cause but it could be why you haven't seen any improvement in 4 years.

It's not only SSRI's that can cause Sexual dysfunction but also anti-anxiety meds, anti-psychotics(not sure if it's the same as others), beta blockers, supplements (5htp, sam-e) and even hair loss foams such as finasteride(propecia) all can cause sexual dysfunction. All these are chemicals that harm our body.

 

Then again I haven't taken anything except magnesium and advil for my headaches and I still have sexual dysfunction issues after 3 years.

 

 

 

 

Inderal (propranolol hydrochloride)

 

Call your doctor at once if you have a serious side effect such as:

  • fast, slow, or uneven heartbeats;
  • feeling light-headed, fainting;
  • feeling short of breath, even with mild exertion;
  • swelling of your ankles or feet;
  • nausea, upper stomach pain, itching, loss of appetite, dark urine, clay-colored stools, jaundice (yellowing of the skin or eyes);
  • cold feeling in your hands and feet;
  • depression, confusion, hallucinations; or
  • severe skin reaction -- fever, sore throat, swelling in your face or tongue, burning in your eyes, skin pain, followed by a red or purple skin rash that spreads (especially in the face or upper body) and causes blistering and peeling.

Less serious side effects may include:

  • nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, constipation, stomach cramps;
  • decreased sex drive, impotence, or difficulty having an orgasm;
  • sleep problems (insomnia); or
  • tired feeling.

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Jin

Thanks for sharing info Johnson. Really appreciate it.

After suffering from PSSD, I stopped taking all antidepressants. However, I had to take something for my debiliting anxiety so that I can hold my job. I relied on Lyrica, Xanax and Inderall in order to keep going. I have successfully weaned off from Lyrica 300 mg this year which was quite a relief. I have reduced Inderal from 40 mg to 20 mg and planning to quit it all together in a month or so. I have shifted from Xanax 0.5 mg to Klonopin 1mg successfully and now I am only taking 0.25mg. However, I don't think so that quitting inderall would do any drastic improvement as I have been taking it long before PSSD without any problem.

What I am considering now is to see pelvic floor therapist as I have pain down there since day 1. May be this would improve something.

 

How are you doing? Are you in a relationship or considering it?

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johnson

I'm doing ok. I am not in a relationship. Of course I am considering one but I am not actively looking for a girlfriend.

 

I have been going over and over in my head that if I get a relationship that I could take Viagra. But the problem with that is it could cause headaches and frequent urination as a side effect.

I already have problems getting headaches and frequent urination at times as it is, and taking Viagra would make this even worse.

 

So I don't know what I would do. I would hope that whoever I meet will be understanding. That's the best I can hope for at the moment.

 

What about you?

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Jin

Since PSSD I was avoiding getting into any relationship because of obvious reasons. However, I reached to a point where I can't live alone any more. So few months ago I started a relationship and my strategy was if can't feel it just fake it. There is nothing sexual at the moment. But I have same concerns as yours. I am not sure whether viagra or cialis would work for me or not as I am experiencing genital anethesia as well.

I really really love her but because of emotional numbness I can't feel much. I fear that if this relationship won't work then I would collapse so badly that it may be end of me :(.​ I am trying to find someone who has pssd and also in a relationship to get advise how to save my relationship. You know what Johnson the only time I forgot about my PSSD and start feeling normal is when I am with her. But when I am not with her I get really depressed because of emotional and sexual numbness. Life would have been so great if we would not have not suffered from PSSD. 

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TeaBea

You wrote first that you were unable to express or feel love.  Then later, you said that you "really, really love her."  May I ask how you know you love her?  It's only been a few months, and you were wanting someone in your life--are you confusing the two?  It's so new in the relationship that I feel you should try and be honest with her.  Don't fake it, it'll only unravel on you.  Don't force it, let her fall in love with the person that you are.  Let her know what's going on in your life (re the med issues), she'll appreciate it (or she won't--best you know now).  If you fake it somehow and pretend something that isn't just so she'll fall in love with you, etc., you're setting both of you up for a big fall.  You think things can't get worse than you already feel?  Well, they can.  

 

Remember this--there are many ways to be intimate in a relationship, and there are many ways to please a woman.  Learning them will make you a better lover in the long run, even after your nether regions come back to life.  Future women will thank you.  

 

(And by the way, my husband is dealing with the dysfunction caused by an SSRI, he's down from a high of 187.5 mg of venlafaxine to about 17 mg, but because of anxiety, he's having trouble going lower without sending it through the roof.  We thought his libido and dysfunction would get better once he started coming off the drug, but so far nothing is happening).  

 

Good luck to you.

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Jin

Thanks TeaBea for your advise. I desperately needed it. I am really sorry that your husband is going through withdrawal. I hope he fully recovers soon.

I may have sounded self contradictory but unfortunately this is the very nature of PSSD. It's makes you emotionally so numb that you really don't feel any emotion. I love her and do care about her but my mind can't process these emotions anymore. So I don't get those butterflies in my stomach or other physical reactions that you experience when you fall in love with someone. That is also the case when I interact with my family members. I have become so indifferent towards everone in my life be it me parents, siblings or friends. I know I love them but my brain is in a state where it cannot process these emotions right. It's hard to explain to someone who has not experienced it and that is why I could not fully explain to my family members or my girlfriend. In order to cope up with lack of emotions, I fake things all the time. I pretend to be somewhat normal when I am at work or at home so that they don't see me miserable all the time. And nobody wants to be someone who is miserable. I will try to explain her for sure before taking this relationship to next level and will then leave onto her to decide for herself.

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Sampo

My advice is telling the truth to her. Maybe she understand or maybe not but it will hurt both of you less if you are honest to her. And if she understand you will get very important support from her and maybe that will be one part of healing process. Atleast it will ease the process if you can share your pain with someone. Fake to yourself that you can feel things and maybe some day you will feel properly.

 

I'm in the same boat with you. I have PSSD too and huge problems emotionally. I have same kind of functioning sexually but the libido is totally dead and the ability to love someone. Still I have thought that it would be nice have someone in my life if she accept my condition. Maybe everything will get fixed when the time is right. There are many examples of recovery. Maybe living with loving and caring person will help to feel love again.

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escitalopramsucks

Dear Jin,

 

This is the list of medications that cause PSSD from Healy (Rxisk) page additionally to SSRI´s:

Persisting sexual dysfunction after the medication has been stopped can also be caused by:

  • Some tricyclic antidepressants
  • Serotonin reuptake inhibiting antihistamines
  • Ziprasidone – an antipsychotic which is also a serotonin reuptake inhibitor
  • Some antibiotics (that may be serotonin reuptake inhibiting) such as tetracycline and doxycycline
  • Finasteride (Propecia) which is used to treat male pattern baldness and benign prostatic hyperplasia. This drug can cause Post-Finasteride Syndrome (PFS) [30-33]
  • Isotretinoin (Accutane) which is used as a treatment for acne [4], and is also serotonin reuptake inhibiting.

SSRI antidepressants can also cause the equally distressing condition, Persistent Genital Arousal Disorder (PGAD) [34-36]. This is essentially the opposite of PSSD, causing a relentless sense of arousal and discomfort in the genitals, but without any accompanying feeling of desire. (Note that not all cases of PGAD are caused by medications.)

 

 

 

Source:  http://withdrawal.rxisk.org/topics/post-ssri-sexual-dysfunction-pssd/

 

I was at the point I needed some relief for my depression and anxiety and I´m having benzo (Ativan lorazepam, in low doses) But I understand you need something to keep on living cos that is my case. I asked personally Healy if benzos can cause PSSD and he said no, but of course, we cannot take anything for granted. I just pray that the benzo is not harming me more.

 

I am happy to hear you have connected to someone despites PSSD

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potions

Jin, how are you doing now? Any improvements on the PSSD?

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