Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted September 28, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted September 28, 2018 Great report, H2H! Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of April 1: 6.8mg Taper is 91% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotics, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment
myndfull Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 H2H -- I'm seven months behind you, just coming up on five months since my jump. Thank you for being one of my trailblazers. Thanks to you and others I can see the road ahead. Myndfull I had tried and failed to stop Paxil several times (though never using a long, slow taper) and thought Celexa might be easier, so I shifted to Celexa in 2012. In August of 2014 I began a serious tapered withdrawal from Celexa (20 mg.), making monthly drops, mostly 10% of the last dose, sometimes more, sometimes less. In July of 2016 I took an early retirement at 59 in large part because of my intense withdrawal symptoms. Three years and eight months after beginning my taper, I stopped taking Celexa on 5/12/18. I am currently in recovery and I am very slowly getting better. I still have waves and some are quite bad. But overall the trend is toward healing. Link to comment
Blondiee1915 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Hi H2H, So good to hear from you. I feel like I have not read your updates and have been MIA lately. I am so pleased to read your latest update. Alot of it resonates with me in particular being in this cocoon and fog and not doing much and not getting out much, not growing and just watching life pass by without realization of being stuck yourself. I think it is AMAZING what you have accomplished and how you handled yourself in this journey. I still remember 2 years ago how I first joined you were one of the first people to welcome me in and provide me with support. I am so happy you are out and about, I am hoping one day I will be there as well. And hosting a party, that sounds fun, and volunteering, and yoga - you turned into a social butterfly :))))) I think you are already a success story! B. 04/10 Luvox 25 mg PM, Nortriptyline 1 mg PM 03/08/19: Buspar 2.5 mg AM, 5 mg PM 01/01/19: Xanax 0.125 AM 5 times a week. Occasionally, 0.125 twice a day AM & noon 12/18 Armour Thyroid 60 mg (for hypothyroidism) Supplements: B Complex, B12 (adeno), multi-vitamin, D, Adrenal Cortex, iron Lexapro 20 mg 2007 - 2013 with various attempts to stop 2013 found a new Dr and started trying other meds: Prozac, Notryptoline, Effexor, Buspar, Gabapentin, Paxil, Nardil Lexapro 15 mg 2015 - 04/2016 Vibryiid 10 - 15mg 05/16-06/16 NO MEDS 07/16 - 10/31/16 Reinstated 10/31/16 at 2.5 mg lexapro, increased to 5 mg 1/13/17 switched to Luvox 50 mg before bed 1/20/17 Luvox 37.5 mg PM 12/18 Luvox 10 mg PM, Nortriptyline 2 mg (started Nortriptyline 06/17 at 10 mg) Link to comment
jozeff Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Wow h2h what a story! Thanks so much for sharing this with us. It's a great update and you can be very proud of yourself. 40 years on meds and now you are...well...just you! I've lost about 15 years taking heavy meds or drinking way too much or both. I recognize your feeling of passing time in the world/community/work/family but never really connected to it all. I switched jobs 7 times, had 3 relationships, got married, my father died, my son was born.... All these events happened and I cried maybe a dozen of times and just went on without making a change. When feeling bad about something for a couple of days I went to the doctor and switched meds or started one. Couple of days and feeling numb again and time just passed again. Have a great family. No friends unfortunately. Not one. I just didn't need them when I took these meds feeling numb and tired. Well, because this is your topic I'll end my story here😉 Just wanted to thank you for making me realize I'm not the only one with these feelings and for sharing such a success story. Wanting to be who we once were (is that even correct English?) cost me quite a few years. I like that quote of yours! I'm going to use it for my daily life if you're ok with that! Happy healing and hope to read your ongoing success story Jozeff Sep- 2016 - Okt 2017 citalopram some months 15 mg some months 20 mg Nov 2017- Apr 2018 citalopram 25 mg Apr 2018 - Jun 2018 citalopram 3 month TAPER too fast from 25mg to 16.5 mg (0.1 mg per day decrease, felt horrible and crashed) Jun 2018 - Aug13th 2018 citalopram trying to stabilize at 16.5 mg for 5 wks - August 14th 2018 - April 29th 2019 citalopram 18 mg (1.5 mg updose). 2019 apr 27 : START taper citalopram @ 18 mg: 29Jun 16.4 mg / 19aug 15.4 mg / 25aug 15.2 mg / 30sep 14.0 mg / 4dec 13.1 mg 2020 03Jan 12.75 mg / 28Jan 12.29 mg / 18Feb 11.83 mg, 25Feb 11.68 mg hold.. / 7May 11.33 mg hold...., 4Aug 10.98 mg / 5Dec 10.0 mg 4 month hold... 2021 30mar 9.8 mg / 06apr 9.5 mg / 13apr 9.4 mg / 14may 8,5 mg / 04jun 8,0 mg / 11jun 7.75 mg, 02jul 7.35 mg / 09jul 7.2 mg hold 3 weeks during holiday /31jul 7 mg/ 8aug 6.8 mg / 15aug 6.63mg / 22aug 6.5mg / 1sep 6.3 mg / 8sep 6.15 mg / 15sep 6.0 mg / 22sep 5.9 mg / 29sep 5.8 mg / 04 oct 5.65 mg / 10oct 5.55 mg / 17oct 5.45 mg / 24oct 5.35mg / 30oct 5.25 mg hold 3 wks / 22nov 5.15 mg / 01dec 5.1mg / 12dec 5.0mg / 20dec 4.85mg / 30dec 4.70mg 2022 08jan 4.5 mg / 16jan 4.4 mg / 23jan 4.3 mg / 27jan 4.2 mg / 18feb 4.1 mg / 25feb 4.0 mg / 04mar 3.9 mg / 11mar 3.75 mg / 18Mar 3.65 mg / 09apr 3.55 mg / 16apr 3.45 mg / 23apr 3.35 mg / 01may 3.25 mg / 8may 3.15 mg / 17may 3.10 mg / 28 may 3.0 mg / 7jun 2.94 mg / 18 Jun 2.88 mg / 27 jun 2.84 mg / 05 jul 2.80 mg / 16 jul 2.75 mg / 23 jul 2.70 mg / 01aug 2.65 mg / 09aug 2.60 mg hold 5wks / 18sep 2.55 mg / 25sep 2.5 mg /02oct 2.45 mg / 10oct 2.40 mg / 19oct 2.35 mg / 27oct 2.30 mg / 05nov 2.27 mg / 14nov 2.25 mg / 22nov 2.20 mg / 29nov 2.10mg / 09dec 2.05 mg / 15dec 2.0 mg 2023 hold 2.0 mg for 5 months / 05may 1.95 mg / 14may 1.90 mg / 24may 1.87 mg / 02jun 1.85 mg / 17jun 1.82 mg / 27jun 1.79 mg / 07jul 1.75 mg / 31jul 1.72 mg / 12aug 1.69mg / 27aug 1.67 mg / 04sep 1.65 mg / 09sep 1.63 mg / 22sep 1.61 mg / 27sep 1.60 mg / 12oct 1.58 mg / 18oct 1.56 mg / 31oct 1.54 mg / 06nov 1.52 mg / 18nov 1.50 mg / 04dec 1.48 mg / 11dec 1.46 mg / 22dec 1.45 mg / 28dec 1.44 mg 2024 01jan 1.43 mg / 06jan 1.42 mg/ 10jan 1.40 mg hold / 08apr 1.38 mg / 15apr 1.36 mg / Link to comment
Mentor Happy2Heal Posted September 29, 2018 Author Mentor Share Posted September 29, 2018 12 hours ago, myndfull said: H2H -- I'm seven months behind you, just coming up on five months since my jump. Thank you for being one of my trailblazers. Thanks to you and others I can see the road ahead. Myndfull congratulations Myndfull are you still having waves? overall my progress stayed mostly linear, usually coming out of a wave at a higher level of healing than before it, until I hit that 10 month wave. I think because there's really so little healing left to do. Now it's a matter of lessening those mild waves to none as time goes on, at least, that's my hope!! they are so mild and so infrequent, thankfully. The main issue I have with them is they trigger a PTSD type reaction, where I'm afraid I'm going to be thrown back in acute WD. I can talk myself down pretty fast though. PLEASE DO NOT SEND ME PRIVATE MESSAGES, thank you. pysch med history: 1974 @ age 18 to Oct 2017 (approx 43 yrs total) Drug list: stelazine, haldol, elavil, lithium, zoloft, celexa, lexapro(doses as high as 40mgs), klonopin, ambien, seroquel(high doses), depakote, zyprexa, lamictal- plus brief trials of dozens of other psych meds over the years started lexapro 2002, dose varied from 20mgs to 40mgs. First attempt to get off it was 2007- WD symptoms were mistaken for "relapse". 2013 too fast taper down to 5mg but WD forced me back to 20mgs June of 2105, tapered again too rapidly to 2.5mgs by Dec 2015. Found SA, held at 2.5 mgs til May 2016 when I foolishly "jumped off". felt ok until Sept, then acute WD hit!! reinstated at 0.3mgs in Oct. 2106 Tapered off to zero by Oct. 2017 Doing very well. Nov. 2018 feel 95% healed, age 63 Jan. 2020 feel 100% healed, peaceful and content Dec 2023 Loving life! ❤️ with all it's ups and downs Link to comment
Mentor Happy2Heal Posted September 29, 2018 Author Mentor Share Posted September 29, 2018 11 hours ago, Blondiee1915 said: Hi H2H, So good to hear from you. I feel like I have not read your updates and have been MIA lately. I am so pleased to read your latest update. Alot of it resonates with me in particular being in this cocoon and fog and not doing much and not getting out much, not growing and just watching life pass by without realization of being stuck yourself. I think it is AMAZING what you have accomplished and how you handled yourself in this journey. I still remember 2 years ago how I first joined you were one of the first people to welcome me in and provide me with support. I am so happy you are out and about, I am hoping one day I will be there as well. And hosting a party, that sounds fun, and volunteering, and yoga - you turned into a social butterfly :))))) I think you are already a success story! B. so good to hear from you Blondie!! yes that fog and cocoon... I was lucky in one way, when the fog got really bad, I finally realized it had to be the drugs. I was always an emotional person, and while I am now older and wiser and calmer than I was as a young adult when I first started on these drugs, I still think I have more intense emotions that some others may- and I like that part of myself. I like to be able to feel things deeply. (most of the time, lol) I did not realize how stuck I was.... and it was a huge shock to find out how much I'd missed during that long period of being in a drugged fog. I see you've finally been diagnosed with hypothyroidism. That's got to be a huge relief!! I hope the medication will help alleviate that awful fatigue you've been battling for so so long! Funny story- the lexapro had either pooped out or I was in WD from going up and down in the dose so many times, not sure which- or maybe both. But regardless of why, I was sleeping a LOT and kept going to the dr to complain about it, and she kept testing my thyroid. It was always fine, not even borderline issues. My mom had a thyroid problem so the dr assumed it was genetic. oh I am blushing, thank you so much for your kind words! I've done nothing amazing, at least I dont think I have. I see people on here such as yourself who have managed to keep working, or people who have gone thru massive life stressors whilst also withdrawing. they have so much courage in the face of horrendous symptoms. The worst of mine were over pretty fast, I think. heh, that's funny, my internet friends, the ones who have never met me, call me a social butterfly too. Now that part is amazing, because it's so different from the way I used to be. but if I go back to when I was younger, I was always more comfortable in a group and I always enjoyed having someone to do things with or to chat with. And when my daughter was little and I had a couple of short breaks off meds, I sought out volunteer jobs and social contacts then too. These drugs really altered my life, and rarely in a good way. I think if I'd been on lower doses of some of them for extremely brief periods during intense emotional distress, them MAYBE they would have been useful, I don't know (and will never know) I tend to see them all as essentially evil now, but I am trying to be more open minded about the potential for possibly some minor benefit. I think I have to moderate my view just for my own sanity, because so many people I know are on these drugs. I have to calm my fears about what may happen to them by trying to convince myself that they might possibly be getting some benefit from them.... otherwise I get frantic, wanting to warn them and help them get off. Looking forward to your success story Blondie, I know it's coming!! it will be a great day when you can do what you want and not feel so darn drained and tired, eh? PLEASE DO NOT SEND ME PRIVATE MESSAGES, thank you. pysch med history: 1974 @ age 18 to Oct 2017 (approx 43 yrs total) Drug list: stelazine, haldol, elavil, lithium, zoloft, celexa, lexapro(doses as high as 40mgs), klonopin, ambien, seroquel(high doses), depakote, zyprexa, lamictal- plus brief trials of dozens of other psych meds over the years started lexapro 2002, dose varied from 20mgs to 40mgs. First attempt to get off it was 2007- WD symptoms were mistaken for "relapse". 2013 too fast taper down to 5mg but WD forced me back to 20mgs June of 2105, tapered again too rapidly to 2.5mgs by Dec 2015. Found SA, held at 2.5 mgs til May 2016 when I foolishly "jumped off". felt ok until Sept, then acute WD hit!! reinstated at 0.3mgs in Oct. 2106 Tapered off to zero by Oct. 2017 Doing very well. Nov. 2018 feel 95% healed, age 63 Jan. 2020 feel 100% healed, peaceful and content Dec 2023 Loving life! ❤️ with all it's ups and downs Link to comment
Mentor Happy2Heal Posted September 29, 2018 Author Mentor Share Posted September 29, 2018 5 hours ago, jozeff said: I've lost about 15 years taking heavy meds or drinking way too much or both. I recognize your feeling of passing time in the world/community/work/family but never really connected to it all. I switched jobs 7 times, had 3 relationships, got married, my father died, my son was born.... All these events happened and I cried maybe a dozen of times and just went on without making a change. When feeling bad about something for a couple of days I went to the doctor and switched meds or started one. Couple of days and feeling numb again and time just passed again. Have a great family. No friends unfortunately. Not one. I just didn't need them when I took these meds feeling numb and tired. Well, because this is your topic I'll end my story here😉 no please do share as much as your story here as you wish! It helps me to hear that I'm not alone, that others have had similar experiences with these drugs even now, when my journey is coming to an end, it is all just so incredible, to look back at the damage and what has happened.... and it still helps immensely to know I'm not the only one it's also disheartening and sad and tragic that so many of us have suffered so badly. but we can and do recover, and that's so important to know when I first came here and saw the " joined the forum" dates of some of the members and read the stories of where they were in their recovery, I was so discouraged and so scared. now I see that there's a wide variation in how things go and that some people have other issues besides the drugs some ppl were on these drugs for a very short time and still had severe problems, some are like me and had mulitple drugs over decades...... and while there's much that we have in common, It helped to finally realize that my story was not going to be exactly like anyone else's I have a hard time reading some of the stories on here, even now. It was easier for me to reach out to others when I was in the thick of it, now I feel like I don't have that much to offer... or I think I almost have "survivor guilt" if that's possible or a real thing....? like, I've done so well, why are some others still struggling? but then I have to think , there really are some ppl who have extremely mild WD symptoms or none at all. I used to be one of them! so, everyone is going to have a somewhat different experience and my doing well - or not- is not going to have any effect on anyone else's journey I just feel bad, is all. I want everyone to do as well. but I know we're all going to get there. you are well on your way!! PLEASE DO NOT SEND ME PRIVATE MESSAGES, thank you. pysch med history: 1974 @ age 18 to Oct 2017 (approx 43 yrs total) Drug list: stelazine, haldol, elavil, lithium, zoloft, celexa, lexapro(doses as high as 40mgs), klonopin, ambien, seroquel(high doses), depakote, zyprexa, lamictal- plus brief trials of dozens of other psych meds over the years started lexapro 2002, dose varied from 20mgs to 40mgs. First attempt to get off it was 2007- WD symptoms were mistaken for "relapse". 2013 too fast taper down to 5mg but WD forced me back to 20mgs June of 2105, tapered again too rapidly to 2.5mgs by Dec 2015. Found SA, held at 2.5 mgs til May 2016 when I foolishly "jumped off". felt ok until Sept, then acute WD hit!! reinstated at 0.3mgs in Oct. 2106 Tapered off to zero by Oct. 2017 Doing very well. Nov. 2018 feel 95% healed, age 63 Jan. 2020 feel 100% healed, peaceful and content Dec 2023 Loving life! ❤️ with all it's ups and downs Link to comment
Mentor Happy2Heal Posted September 29, 2018 Author Mentor Share Posted September 29, 2018 12 hours ago, Gridley said: Great report, H2H! thanks so much Gridley how goes things with you? PLEASE DO NOT SEND ME PRIVATE MESSAGES, thank you. pysch med history: 1974 @ age 18 to Oct 2017 (approx 43 yrs total) Drug list: stelazine, haldol, elavil, lithium, zoloft, celexa, lexapro(doses as high as 40mgs), klonopin, ambien, seroquel(high doses), depakote, zyprexa, lamictal- plus brief trials of dozens of other psych meds over the years started lexapro 2002, dose varied from 20mgs to 40mgs. First attempt to get off it was 2007- WD symptoms were mistaken for "relapse". 2013 too fast taper down to 5mg but WD forced me back to 20mgs June of 2105, tapered again too rapidly to 2.5mgs by Dec 2015. Found SA, held at 2.5 mgs til May 2016 when I foolishly "jumped off". felt ok until Sept, then acute WD hit!! reinstated at 0.3mgs in Oct. 2106 Tapered off to zero by Oct. 2017 Doing very well. Nov. 2018 feel 95% healed, age 63 Jan. 2020 feel 100% healed, peaceful and content Dec 2023 Loving life! ❤️ with all it's ups and downs Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus manymoretodays Posted September 29, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted September 29, 2018 Hi Happy2Heal, Also, happy to read your update. And woah Nellie, I can't believe you were on 40 mg of Lexapro!!! Yikes. Ayup......I'll be 2 years off my last one in December 2018........I should start composing my story as well. And consider it a Christmas gift, of sorts......to the forum and myself. Extremely grateful for it all........truly........the journey, the continued enlightenment, and learning. I really like my life right now too. Love, peace, healing/inrecovery, and growth, manymoretodays Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks. Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted September 29, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted September 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Happy2Heal said: thanks so much Gridley how goes things with you? I'm doing pretty well, down to 5mg Lexapro from 20. Some WD symptoms but tolerable. Thanks for asking, H2H. Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of April 1: 6.8mg Taper is 91% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotics, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment
myndfull Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Happy2Heal said: congratulations Myndfull are you still having waves? overall my progress stayed mostly linear, usually coming out of a wave at a higher level of healing than before it, until I hit that 10 month wave. I think because there's really so little healing left to do. Now it's a matter of lessening those mild waves to none as time goes on, at least, that's my hope!! they are so mild and so infrequent, thankfully. The main issue I have with them is they trigger a PTSD type reaction, where I'm afraid I'm going to be thrown back in acute WD. I can talk myself down pretty fast though. Yes, I'm still having waves. Their duration is getting shorter and much less intense. They come predictably, fade, then come back morphed into something slightly different. I'm getting insomnia again fairly predictably with heart palps, pins and needles feelings, ringing in the right ear, temperature disregularity, etc., etc. Brain fog is still there, especially in the latter part of the day, but its not as bad. I can read and get other things done now, where I couldn't before. One thing that's changed is the depth of my negative thinking. I can almost see now how my negativity comes on me, creating a wholly different person. I recognize that person as ill and I talk him down, so to speak, away from trains of thought that lead to catastrophizing. I can see progress and so for me now, when I'm slightly depressed or "buzzed" with anxiety, I can add another complaint: frustration. My being tired of all this is a new kind of "tired." I know I'm getting better, I'm near the finish line, but I'm dog tired. I've ben running a long, long race and though the end is in sight I still have a ways to go. So I keep on truckin' but my shoes are made of lead. Actually, that metaphor doesn't really work. The closer I get to fine, the more energy I have. The frustration of not being 100% makes me want to kick something. On a positive note: there was a moment a few days ago when I was looking down the hall of my house from my perch on the couch and feeling almost 100% me. I couldn't begin to describe it except to say that I was aware of it. I get closer and closer to that person (the finish line) every day. I had tried and failed to stop Paxil several times (though never using a long, slow taper) and thought Celexa might be easier, so I shifted to Celexa in 2012. In August of 2014 I began a serious tapered withdrawal from Celexa (20 mg.), making monthly drops, mostly 10% of the last dose, sometimes more, sometimes less. In July of 2016 I took an early retirement at 59 in large part because of my intense withdrawal symptoms. Three years and eight months after beginning my taper, I stopped taking Celexa on 5/12/18. I am currently in recovery and I am very slowly getting better. I still have waves and some are quite bad. But overall the trend is toward healing. Link to comment
jozeff Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 H2H don't feel guilty about your AD survival. You deserve every feeling of victory. It is like we remove our skin like a snake and very slowly try to be ourselves again. You did great and help a lot of people with your story. Cheers Jozeff Sep- 2016 - Okt 2017 citalopram some months 15 mg some months 20 mg Nov 2017- Apr 2018 citalopram 25 mg Apr 2018 - Jun 2018 citalopram 3 month TAPER too fast from 25mg to 16.5 mg (0.1 mg per day decrease, felt horrible and crashed) Jun 2018 - Aug13th 2018 citalopram trying to stabilize at 16.5 mg for 5 wks - August 14th 2018 - April 29th 2019 citalopram 18 mg (1.5 mg updose). 2019 apr 27 : START taper citalopram @ 18 mg: 29Jun 16.4 mg / 19aug 15.4 mg / 25aug 15.2 mg / 30sep 14.0 mg / 4dec 13.1 mg 2020 03Jan 12.75 mg / 28Jan 12.29 mg / 18Feb 11.83 mg, 25Feb 11.68 mg hold.. / 7May 11.33 mg hold...., 4Aug 10.98 mg / 5Dec 10.0 mg 4 month hold... 2021 30mar 9.8 mg / 06apr 9.5 mg / 13apr 9.4 mg / 14may 8,5 mg / 04jun 8,0 mg / 11jun 7.75 mg, 02jul 7.35 mg / 09jul 7.2 mg hold 3 weeks during holiday /31jul 7 mg/ 8aug 6.8 mg / 15aug 6.63mg / 22aug 6.5mg / 1sep 6.3 mg / 8sep 6.15 mg / 15sep 6.0 mg / 22sep 5.9 mg / 29sep 5.8 mg / 04 oct 5.65 mg / 10oct 5.55 mg / 17oct 5.45 mg / 24oct 5.35mg / 30oct 5.25 mg hold 3 wks / 22nov 5.15 mg / 01dec 5.1mg / 12dec 5.0mg / 20dec 4.85mg / 30dec 4.70mg 2022 08jan 4.5 mg / 16jan 4.4 mg / 23jan 4.3 mg / 27jan 4.2 mg / 18feb 4.1 mg / 25feb 4.0 mg / 04mar 3.9 mg / 11mar 3.75 mg / 18Mar 3.65 mg / 09apr 3.55 mg / 16apr 3.45 mg / 23apr 3.35 mg / 01may 3.25 mg / 8may 3.15 mg / 17may 3.10 mg / 28 may 3.0 mg / 7jun 2.94 mg / 18 Jun 2.88 mg / 27 jun 2.84 mg / 05 jul 2.80 mg / 16 jul 2.75 mg / 23 jul 2.70 mg / 01aug 2.65 mg / 09aug 2.60 mg hold 5wks / 18sep 2.55 mg / 25sep 2.5 mg /02oct 2.45 mg / 10oct 2.40 mg / 19oct 2.35 mg / 27oct 2.30 mg / 05nov 2.27 mg / 14nov 2.25 mg / 22nov 2.20 mg / 29nov 2.10mg / 09dec 2.05 mg / 15dec 2.0 mg 2023 hold 2.0 mg for 5 months / 05may 1.95 mg / 14may 1.90 mg / 24may 1.87 mg / 02jun 1.85 mg / 17jun 1.82 mg / 27jun 1.79 mg / 07jul 1.75 mg / 31jul 1.72 mg / 12aug 1.69mg / 27aug 1.67 mg / 04sep 1.65 mg / 09sep 1.63 mg / 22sep 1.61 mg / 27sep 1.60 mg / 12oct 1.58 mg / 18oct 1.56 mg / 31oct 1.54 mg / 06nov 1.52 mg / 18nov 1.50 mg / 04dec 1.48 mg / 11dec 1.46 mg / 22dec 1.45 mg / 28dec 1.44 mg 2024 01jan 1.43 mg / 06jan 1.42 mg/ 10jan 1.40 mg hold / 08apr 1.38 mg / 15apr 1.36 mg / Link to comment
Mentor Happy2Heal Posted September 30, 2018 Author Mentor Share Posted September 30, 2018 On 9/29/2018 at 9:23 AM, Gridley said: I'm doing pretty well, down to 5mg Lexapro from 20. Some WD symptoms but tolerable. Thanks for asking, H2H. glad to hear you're doing ok. that's fantastic you've gotten down so far. I hope it all goes smoothly for you as you get down to the lower doses. PLEASE DO NOT SEND ME PRIVATE MESSAGES, thank you. pysch med history: 1974 @ age 18 to Oct 2017 (approx 43 yrs total) Drug list: stelazine, haldol, elavil, lithium, zoloft, celexa, lexapro(doses as high as 40mgs), klonopin, ambien, seroquel(high doses), depakote, zyprexa, lamictal- plus brief trials of dozens of other psych meds over the years started lexapro 2002, dose varied from 20mgs to 40mgs. First attempt to get off it was 2007- WD symptoms were mistaken for "relapse". 2013 too fast taper down to 5mg but WD forced me back to 20mgs June of 2105, tapered again too rapidly to 2.5mgs by Dec 2015. Found SA, held at 2.5 mgs til May 2016 when I foolishly "jumped off". felt ok until Sept, then acute WD hit!! reinstated at 0.3mgs in Oct. 2106 Tapered off to zero by Oct. 2017 Doing very well. Nov. 2018 feel 95% healed, age 63 Jan. 2020 feel 100% healed, peaceful and content Dec 2023 Loving life! ❤️ with all it's ups and downs Link to comment
Mentor Happy2Heal Posted September 30, 2018 Author Mentor Share Posted September 30, 2018 On 9/29/2018 at 8:17 AM, manymoretodays said: Hi Happy2Heal, Also, happy to read your update. And woah Nellie, I can't believe you were on 40 mg of Lexapro!!! Yikes. Ayup......I'll be 2 years off my last one in December 2018........I should start composing my story as well. And consider it a Christmas gift, of sorts......to the forum and myself. Extremely grateful for it all........truly........the journey, the continued enlightenment, and learning. I really like my life right now too. so you've been at zero for almost 2yrs? did you not feel well enough last Dec to write a success story? yep 40 mgs of lexapro- I was bouncing off the walls on that dose. Ended up "manic" but of course no one blamed the drug, they just gave me a new diagnosis *groan* PLEASE DO NOT SEND ME PRIVATE MESSAGES, thank you. pysch med history: 1974 @ age 18 to Oct 2017 (approx 43 yrs total) Drug list: stelazine, haldol, elavil, lithium, zoloft, celexa, lexapro(doses as high as 40mgs), klonopin, ambien, seroquel(high doses), depakote, zyprexa, lamictal- plus brief trials of dozens of other psych meds over the years started lexapro 2002, dose varied from 20mgs to 40mgs. First attempt to get off it was 2007- WD symptoms were mistaken for "relapse". 2013 too fast taper down to 5mg but WD forced me back to 20mgs June of 2105, tapered again too rapidly to 2.5mgs by Dec 2015. Found SA, held at 2.5 mgs til May 2016 when I foolishly "jumped off". felt ok until Sept, then acute WD hit!! reinstated at 0.3mgs in Oct. 2106 Tapered off to zero by Oct. 2017 Doing very well. Nov. 2018 feel 95% healed, age 63 Jan. 2020 feel 100% healed, peaceful and content Dec 2023 Loving life! ❤️ with all it's ups and downs Link to comment
Mentor Happy2Heal Posted September 30, 2018 Author Mentor Share Posted September 30, 2018 23 hours ago, myndfull said: On a positive note: there was a moment a few days ago when I was looking down the hall of my house from my perch on the couch and feeling almost 100% me. I couldn't begin to describe it except to say that I was aware of it. I get closer and closer to that person (the finish line) every day. that's great!! I've had moments like those, coming out of a wave and feeling like I was deposited back into myself. I've read thru a lot of the "post zero" threads and it's good to see that for most ppl, things just keep getting better. I have days when I think, wow, it can't really get any better than this, can it? but then I'll have a mild wave and be like, oh yeh, ok, don't get too excited, now- it's not totally over yet, hahaha 23 hours ago, myndfull said: Yes, I'm still having waves. Their duration is getting shorter and much less intense. They come predictably, fade, then come back morphed into something slightly different. I'm getting insomnia again fairly predictably with heart palps, pins and needles feelings, ringing in the right ear, temperature disregularity, etc., etc. Brain fog is still there, especially in the latter part of the day, but its not as bad. I can read and get other things done now, where I couldn't before. One thing that's changed is the depth of my negative thinking. I can almost see now how my negativity comes on me, creating a wholly different person. I recognize that person as ill and I talk him down, so to speak, away from trains of thought that lead to catastrophizing. this is very similar to how it's been for me but you've written it out so much more clearly! I think it was at about 8 mos that the end of the day brain fog faded off to almost none most days. I have the heart palps if I eat too much too close to bedtime. I've gotten pretty good at talking back to the negativity. However I have zero patience for ppl who spend all their time b*tching and moaning and catastrophizing, I have to walk away or I'll say something rude, I'm afraid Actually I've blurted out some rude comments a couple of times. I said to one person, we could talk about something a bit happier, unless you're just determined to be miserable, in which case, I need to get off the phone now..... and when another person kept bringing a conversation around to tragic news, I blurted out, Well aren't you just little Merry Sunshine, eh? that would have been ok if I'd say it in a lighthearted way, but I was actually very frustrated, almost angry, and it came thru in my tone of voice ooops. well, honestly, so many people are so freaking negative, it's hard to have a good time or enjoy things, you know? but now Iv'e gone way off topic, sorry! this is one heck of a journey, eh? PLEASE DO NOT SEND ME PRIVATE MESSAGES, thank you. pysch med history: 1974 @ age 18 to Oct 2017 (approx 43 yrs total) Drug list: stelazine, haldol, elavil, lithium, zoloft, celexa, lexapro(doses as high as 40mgs), klonopin, ambien, seroquel(high doses), depakote, zyprexa, lamictal- plus brief trials of dozens of other psych meds over the years started lexapro 2002, dose varied from 20mgs to 40mgs. First attempt to get off it was 2007- WD symptoms were mistaken for "relapse". 2013 too fast taper down to 5mg but WD forced me back to 20mgs June of 2105, tapered again too rapidly to 2.5mgs by Dec 2015. Found SA, held at 2.5 mgs til May 2016 when I foolishly "jumped off". felt ok until Sept, then acute WD hit!! reinstated at 0.3mgs in Oct. 2106 Tapered off to zero by Oct. 2017 Doing very well. Nov. 2018 feel 95% healed, age 63 Jan. 2020 feel 100% healed, peaceful and content Dec 2023 Loving life! ❤️ with all it's ups and downs Link to comment
Mentor Happy2Heal Posted September 30, 2018 Author Mentor Share Posted September 30, 2018 22 hours ago, jozeff said: H2H don't feel guilty about your AD survival. You deserve every feeling of victory. It is like we remove our skin like a snake and very slowly try to be ourselves again. You did great and help a lot of people with your story. Cheers Jozeff thanks Jozeff I just want everyone to make it to the "finish line" with as little pain as possible. While I am happy to be where I am, on the other hand, I'm so sad when I read the struggles many of my friends here are going thru. but I have hope that they'll soon be well. you've come so far, yourself. You are healing very nicely, although I'm sure it doesn't feel like it most days, you've made great progress!! PLEASE DO NOT SEND ME PRIVATE MESSAGES, thank you. pysch med history: 1974 @ age 18 to Oct 2017 (approx 43 yrs total) Drug list: stelazine, haldol, elavil, lithium, zoloft, celexa, lexapro(doses as high as 40mgs), klonopin, ambien, seroquel(high doses), depakote, zyprexa, lamictal- plus brief trials of dozens of other psych meds over the years started lexapro 2002, dose varied from 20mgs to 40mgs. First attempt to get off it was 2007- WD symptoms were mistaken for "relapse". 2013 too fast taper down to 5mg but WD forced me back to 20mgs June of 2105, tapered again too rapidly to 2.5mgs by Dec 2015. Found SA, held at 2.5 mgs til May 2016 when I foolishly "jumped off". felt ok until Sept, then acute WD hit!! reinstated at 0.3mgs in Oct. 2106 Tapered off to zero by Oct. 2017 Doing very well. Nov. 2018 feel 95% healed, age 63 Jan. 2020 feel 100% healed, peaceful and content Dec 2023 Loving life! ❤️ with all it's ups and downs Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus manymoretodays Posted September 30, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted September 30, 2018 Hi H2H, I answered your ? and then sent it to my introduction/journal. Oh, there's no rule on writing a success story at one year off or 2 years off. I think you might go for writing yours, Happy........if you feel like most of any lingering symptoms, are manageable and all. Why not? Go for it!!!! I liked your quote too. I've got some bright orange pumpkins on the front porch now. Happy orange color. Happy you are healing and feeling like writing of your success too!!! Love, peace, healing, and growth, mmt Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks. Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment
Miko789 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Hi H2H, read your story about getting off. so happy about you. was your doctor knowledgable of the tapering? I recently realised how fear and anxiety can drain my energy because of my recent experience. how are you now? cortizol spikes or memory issues? 2011 protracted withdrawal symptoms from Effexor, managed to come off 2013-2015 risperidone consta 50 mg, started tapering from March 2015 to 1,66mg/day and from 02/2015 started seroxat 10mg/day 01/17 Seroxat 2,0mg,olanzapine 5mg,risperidone consta 25mg/every 15days 05/17 Seroxat 1mg,olanzapine 5mg,risp.consta 25mg/every 15days 06/17 Seroxat 2drops,olanzapine 5mg,liquid risperidone2mg 07/17 Seroxat 1 drop,olanzapine 5mg,Risperidone 0mg, 10/17 Seroxat 0mg,olanzapine,5mg,Risperidone 0mg, 12/17 Seroxat 1/2 drop, olanzapine 5mg, 04/18 Olanzapine 1,25mg, 04/18 xanax 0,5mg 24/06/2019 doc said to take 10mg olanzapine for 13days and down to 5mg been taking 10mg for 14 days, 5mg for 8 days and tapered to 3/4quart. 5mg for 14 days, 1/2 for 14 days, 01/08/19 2,5mg 08/2021 5mg olanzapine Supplements Omega 3, Turmeric, Bacopa monneri, Mucuna Pruriens Link to comment
Mentor Happy2Heal Posted November 2, 2018 Author Mentor Share Posted November 2, 2018 13 hours ago, Miko789 said: Hi H2H, read your story about getting off. so happy about you. was your doctor knowledgable of the tapering? I recently realised how fear and anxiety can drain my energy because of my recent experience. how are you now? cortizol spikes or memory issues? hi Miko789 how are you doing? thanks for stopping by. I am doing very well, thanks. it's been just over a year since getting totally off all drugs and I can say that things have just gotten better and better the more time goes by that's not to say my life is perfect, of course, I still have stuff to deal with, but the whole long process of tapering is done and behind me. To answer your question, no I did not have a doctor who knew about tapering and I've yet to meet one! I tapered on my own, after finding this forum in the past, I quit all medications cold turkey but was almost always put immediately on a different drug or several other drugs Sometimes I'm surprised at how far I've come, other times, I wonder what took me so long to realize that this was possible- that I didn't need to keep putting those poisons into my body at all. well, that's all in the past. I'm moving forward and pretty satisfied with how things are now. PLEASE DO NOT SEND ME PRIVATE MESSAGES, thank you. pysch med history: 1974 @ age 18 to Oct 2017 (approx 43 yrs total) Drug list: stelazine, haldol, elavil, lithium, zoloft, celexa, lexapro(doses as high as 40mgs), klonopin, ambien, seroquel(high doses), depakote, zyprexa, lamictal- plus brief trials of dozens of other psych meds over the years started lexapro 2002, dose varied from 20mgs to 40mgs. First attempt to get off it was 2007- WD symptoms were mistaken for "relapse". 2013 too fast taper down to 5mg but WD forced me back to 20mgs June of 2105, tapered again too rapidly to 2.5mgs by Dec 2015. Found SA, held at 2.5 mgs til May 2016 when I foolishly "jumped off". felt ok until Sept, then acute WD hit!! reinstated at 0.3mgs in Oct. 2106 Tapered off to zero by Oct. 2017 Doing very well. Nov. 2018 feel 95% healed, age 63 Jan. 2020 feel 100% healed, peaceful and content Dec 2023 Loving life! ❤️ with all it's ups and downs Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted November 3, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted November 3, 2018 Link: * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Mentor Happy2Heal Posted November 3, 2018 Author Mentor Share Posted November 3, 2018 6 hours ago, ChessieCat said: Link: thanks ChessieCat I'm a bit annoyed at myself for adding "not quite a success story" to the title of that thread, and if it can be edited out, I'd appreciate it, as I think now that it may confuse people It is indeed my success story, because I'm at least 99% recovered, I believe You're welcome to close this thread, if you want to. I won't be posting here any more thank you and all the moderators, and esp of course Alto, for all that you've done for me to help me get to this point I can't imagine where I'd be if I'd never found this forum! I owe you all much more than I can say thanks also to the many members who supported me along the way. Never could have done this without you either! ❤️ PLEASE DO NOT SEND ME PRIVATE MESSAGES, thank you. pysch med history: 1974 @ age 18 to Oct 2017 (approx 43 yrs total) Drug list: stelazine, haldol, elavil, lithium, zoloft, celexa, lexapro(doses as high as 40mgs), klonopin, ambien, seroquel(high doses), depakote, zyprexa, lamictal- plus brief trials of dozens of other psych meds over the years started lexapro 2002, dose varied from 20mgs to 40mgs. First attempt to get off it was 2007- WD symptoms were mistaken for "relapse". 2013 too fast taper down to 5mg but WD forced me back to 20mgs June of 2105, tapered again too rapidly to 2.5mgs by Dec 2015. Found SA, held at 2.5 mgs til May 2016 when I foolishly "jumped off". felt ok until Sept, then acute WD hit!! reinstated at 0.3mgs in Oct. 2106 Tapered off to zero by Oct. 2017 Doing very well. Nov. 2018 feel 95% healed, age 63 Jan. 2020 feel 100% healed, peaceful and content Dec 2023 Loving life! ❤️ with all it's ups and downs Link to comment
gigi63 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Happy2Heal, congratulations at a huge victory!!!!! So happy for you!!!! Can you tell me how long the entire process has been with getting off and now the one year out? What an amazing victory!!!!! Beautiful!!!! Link to comment
GirlfromD Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 On 9/29/2018 at 12:38 AM, Happy2Heal said: the reason I put this quote here is because I see a lot of pp on this forum asking, am I going to get back to who I used to be? myself included. I don't know if I ever worded it exactly that way, but I did wonder, would I ever feel at home in my body and in my "head" again? the symptoms of WD/recovery seem to take over your entire life and your entire being. well I can say now that yes, I do now feel mostly at home in my own body and in my own head. Not 100% of the time, not yet.... but I am sure that will come. I am not, however, who I used to be, and I will never be who I used to be, and this is a good thing!! I was started on psych drugs when I was just 18 years old. Over 4 decades have passed since then. Thank goodness- It's a damn good thing I"m not the person I was when I was 18!! I am a lot older and at least a little bit wiser, hahaha One thing that happened to me while I was "medicated" was that I never really kept up with the passing of time. I was not connected to reality, I was not changing much nor growing, I was stuck in a place where I had no real feelings, and no real impetus to change. I rarely left my house and didn't know or notice any of the huge changes in my community. I had no real friends, no social life except for FB (and not with anyone I'd actually ever met) I did some meager things with animals and sewing but that's about it. as hard as WD/recovery has been, it's pushed me WAY outside my comfort zone and forced me to grow. it's been painful but it's been worth it. I now have friends, I go out all the time, I starting to get more involved in volunteering in ways outside of my house, instead of the things I do for the rat rescue that tend not to involve much contact with others. I go the YMCA and work out in the pool and do yoga and stuff. In roughly 2 weeks I"ll be hosting my first card party at my house! I am so excited! The last time I hosted a party it was for Halloween for my daughter when she was in elementary school! I still have more growing to do, I still have a lot of free time to fill and I'm not entirely sure what to do with it all. I now have a hard time being home and alone, when before that never bothered me, It was what I was used to. It boggles my mind when I think what my life used to be: I literally left my house MAYBE at most 4 times a month. Sometimes only twice. to get groceries and go to the Drs. Thats IT. now If I have a day when I can't go out or have no where to go, I feel like I'm going to get cabin fever. When I get up in the morning, all i want to do is get dressed and go somewhere. So very different now! I do still sometimes miss that feeling of nothing being wrong, that comfortable fuzzy fog that I was wrapped in that nothing could penetrate. but it wasn't living, It wasn't real, and I knew it then. I tried to break out of it not realizing it was the drugs that had put me in that place. NOw that I am off them, I can see clearly how much damage they were doing to me! I am coming up on one year totally off all drugs I want to write my success story but I'm not sure if I'm ready. I have to be honest and say that I am still having some tiny waves............ and there's no way to know how long those will last. I sometimes have ringing in my ears, I sometimes have some early morning dread, I have the occasional cortisol spike in the middle of the night (usually after a day of indulging in junk food) I will sometimes have trouble with executive function, sometimes an episode of memory issues, just little things. always short lived but annoying. but the positives far out weigh these tiny little blips I am basking in mostly wide open window, happy to greet each new day and wondering where life is going to take me next what a journey! That was so beautifully written! Brought a little tear to my eye. And really nice explanation to the question "am I going to get back to who I used to be", really good quote in relation to that. I already think you're a success too Happy2heal, and big congratulations writing your success story! You always have the kindest words for others struggling, and you deserve all the best 😊 2010 - 2015: 50mg Sertraline, 30mg Mirtazapine. 2015 - 2016: Last dose Mirtazapine 28.11.2015 and Sertraline 04.01.2016. (6 months taper) 2016/June: 6 months off. Feeling better but a lot of symptoms, name one and i have it. 2016/Dec: 12 months off. Hit a very bad wave, can't function at this moment, isolate and many intense symptoms. Very intense heart palpitations and very intense anxiety. 2017/June: 18 months off. Things are better, experiencing a lot of flashbacks, walking everyday. 2017/Nov: Things have finally started to improve and i'm now much better than a year ago, starting to feel a lot of improvements, but still symptoms that come in waves and windows. 2018/June: Feeling better. Starting to do some normal things again, but still some improvements needed. All symptoms still there, just less intense. 2018/Oct: Almost 3 years off. Symptoms are milder and more manageable, but lots of anger issues at the moment. Still some depersonalization etc. Heart palpitations almost gone. There's hope. 2021/april: 5 years and 3 months off. Symptoms less intense, but still struggling, still not able to socialize much, very tired, i just want to feel normal again. In a tough and awful wave. Link to comment
Mentor Happy2Heal Posted November 3, 2018 Author Mentor Share Posted November 3, 2018 31 minutes ago, gigi63 said: Happy2Heal, congratulations at a huge victory!!!!! So happy for you!!!! Can you tell me how long the entire process has been with getting off and now the one year out? What an amazing victory!!!!! Beautiful!!!! Hi Gigi do you mean for the last drug, the lexapro? the history of my lexapro use is in my signature, at least a summary of what I can remember: started lexapro 2002 from 20mgs to 40mgs. I tried to get off it many times. WD symptoms were mistaken for "relapse". 2013 tapered down to 5mg but WD forced me back to 20mgs June of 2105, tapered again, too rapidly to 2.5mgs by Dec 2015. Found SA, held at 2.5 mgs til May 2016 when I foolishly "jumped off". Crashed in Sept, reinstated at 0.3mgs in Oct. 2106 Tapered off to zero by Oct 2017 Doing very well I don't have the best memory for a lot of those years between 2002 and when I took my last tiny tiny dose in Oct 2017 but what I do remember is that I tried to get off the lexapro at least 2 times but possibly as many as 4 , other times - unsuccessfully. One time I was off the lexapro for 8 mos but felt so horrible, I went back on it. I was taking seroquel and klonopin too, at that time, and only stopped the lexapro. The anxiety was just so horrendous. The anxiety was almost immediately relieved when I went back on lexapro. I figured that meant that I "needed" the fool stuff 😕 as it says in my signature, in 20013 I tried to taper off but I went too fast and needed to go back up to my previous dose. in 2015, I decided to give it another shot, because I had no life- I was sleeping up to 20 hrs a day, had no motivation to do anything, no emotions, was just going thru the motions of living but not really living, you know? so I did another taper but went a bit slower. I was still too fast, but a lot slower than ANY doctor ever advised! by the time I got down to 2.5mgs I was in a really bad place (see the first few posts in my thread) and doing a search of a different medication my dr had Rxed for me because I was literally unable to sleep for days and days, I found this forum!!!!! best thing that ever happened to me. I decided to hold at 2.5mgs and thought I'd stabilized so, believing 2.5 mgs to be a TINY dose, I jumped off. I was ok for roughly 3 mos when ACUTE withdrawal hit me, with over 40 SEVERE symptoms I reinstated a truly tiny dose and spent the next year tapering off that so that by OCt 2017, I was down to ZERO in the year since then, I've continued to do better and better! I'm lucky in that my recovery has been almost all in the positive direction. I just kept getting better and better each day. it was very hard at first, but I learned ways to deal with the symptoms and I continued to live my life thru out all of it. I'm so glad its done and over with. there were times I was discouraged and didn't know if I'd make it thru. but I did!!! yay me! lol yes I am very happy, thanks for being happy for me!! PLEASE DO NOT SEND ME PRIVATE MESSAGES, thank you. pysch med history: 1974 @ age 18 to Oct 2017 (approx 43 yrs total) Drug list: stelazine, haldol, elavil, lithium, zoloft, celexa, lexapro(doses as high as 40mgs), klonopin, ambien, seroquel(high doses), depakote, zyprexa, lamictal- plus brief trials of dozens of other psych meds over the years started lexapro 2002, dose varied from 20mgs to 40mgs. First attempt to get off it was 2007- WD symptoms were mistaken for "relapse". 2013 too fast taper down to 5mg but WD forced me back to 20mgs June of 2105, tapered again too rapidly to 2.5mgs by Dec 2015. Found SA, held at 2.5 mgs til May 2016 when I foolishly "jumped off". felt ok until Sept, then acute WD hit!! reinstated at 0.3mgs in Oct. 2106 Tapered off to zero by Oct. 2017 Doing very well. Nov. 2018 feel 95% healed, age 63 Jan. 2020 feel 100% healed, peaceful and content Dec 2023 Loving life! ❤️ with all it's ups and downs Link to comment
Hibari Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 It is so good to read your success story today. Congratulations on all that you have achieved. I'm so glad you as rw enjoying your life. May I ask about whether you went through periods of crying? I cry a lot these days and also am now experiencing what I hope is rebound depression and not real depression. 9/2013-4/2014: After moms death, was prescribed a series of meds for short periods of time that didn't work. Zoloft, Lexapro, Nortriptyline, Liquid Prozac, Cymbalta. 1/2014-9/2014. Clonzapam: Given Lamictal, stopped Clonzapam at .125mgs 1/2015-4 2017 Remeron: 41.25 -0.025mgs 7/2015-11/2018 Lamictal: 200mgs-0.05 mgs Had paradoxical reaction to Lamictal wd, broke my heart to take a benzo but wasn't sleeping. 3/28/2019 -2/5/ 2021 Clonazapam: 0.625mgs-.00115 Med Free July 27th, 2022**Severe Setback due to surgery/ anesthesia. 9/7/22-10/4/22 Trazadone 50-100mgs for sleep, 10/13/22-11/13/22 Trazadone 1 mg to stabilize 10/4/22-11/20/22 Remeron 7.5mgs (for sleep doesn't work) 11/20/22 7.3 - 12/31/22 6.3 2023: 1/18/23 6.1 - 6/6/23 3.6 6/16 3.4 6/28 3.0 7/12 2.7 7/28 2.5 8/11 2.2 8/23 2.0 9/5 1.8 9/16 1.6 9/30 1.4 10/13 1.2 10/26 1.0 11/9 0.8 11/22 0.6 12/6 0.4 12/23 0.2. 2024 1/4/24 Remeron/Mirtazapine free Additional Support: Armour Thyroid 75mgs, Magnesium Glycinate 300-500mgs, L-theanine Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus SquirrellyGirl Posted November 4, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted November 4, 2018 I always wonder when people mention crying spells. Are we talking crying out of the blue, no real reason, or being more emotionally labile? Lately I've been the latter. I saw an ad on TV for Bohemian Rhapsody (movie) this morning and began thinking about Freddy Mercury and how sad that he died young and then I was weeping! I wept about all kinds of things this morning, that and my cat that disappeared over a year ago, and some moving video on twitter...But it feels good to FEEL! SG Started ADs back around 1995 after bad break-up, starting with Prozac. Switched to Wellbutrin, and then to Effexor in 2002 Effexor XR 2002-2014 up to 225 mg at one point, down to 37.5 mg towards end but back up to 75 mg in 2014; now realize I had W/D as I dropped down, memory very poor about history. Extreme emotions, poor concentration as I stepped back down, didn't connect the dots! Summer 2014 reduced to 0 very quickly, was sick of anhedonia/sexual dysfunction due to meds, depression never controlled if not worse. Didn't recognize WD since symptoms built slowly (thought I had ADD! and menopausal on top of it), starting with severe sweats, very bad cog-fog and memory issues, culminating in weight loss, severe anxiety and depression, panic, severe apathy and insomnia by eight months off. Saw p-doc who put me on Remeron, increased from 7.5 mg/day to 37.5 mg by May 22, 2015; still doing very badly though able to sleep. June 1. 2015 Reinstated Effexor XR 37.5 mg, Remeron dropped to 30 mg PM. Immediate relief of symptoms, like nothing had ever happened! Joined SA and began on advice of friend who recognized it was WD all along! Began tapering in July 2015. Been tapering both meds ever since, focusing on one more than the other or doing no more than 5% of each per month. 12 mg Effexor and 5.8 mg Remeron (mirtazapine SolTabs to make a solution with OraPlus) as of 5/4/2017 Update 3/14/18: 2.9 mg Remeron and 6 mg Effexor; 6/10/18: 2.6 mg Remeron and 4.9 mg Effexor My intro: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/9313-squirrellygirl-effexor-withdrawal-etc/page-2#entry196679 This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. Link to comment
Hibari Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 30 minutes ago, SquirrellyGirl said: I always wonder when people mention crying spells. Are we talking crying out of the blue, no real reason, or being more emotionally labile? Lately I've been the latter. I saw an ad on TV for Bohemian Rhapsody (movie) this morning and began thinking about Freddy Mercury and how sad that he died young and then I was weeping! I wept about all kinds of things this morning, that and my cat that disappeared over a year ago, and some moving video on twitter...But it feels good to FEEL! SG Mine happen in a couple of ways. One happens usually an hour after I take one of my divided doses of medication, I feel like crying and then usually do. Not connected to any image or memory. Second happens when I don't feel well from withdrawal, either physically or mentally. Then I cry about this process, which can really wind me up. Third, a memory about my dog or mom will make me cry. I also am crying at sentimental things I see on TV. I did some research and crying definitely seems to be connected with wd. I was asking H2H out it because I'm hoping I will dry up eventually. 9/2013-4/2014: After moms death, was prescribed a series of meds for short periods of time that didn't work. Zoloft, Lexapro, Nortriptyline, Liquid Prozac, Cymbalta. 1/2014-9/2014. Clonzapam: Given Lamictal, stopped Clonzapam at .125mgs 1/2015-4 2017 Remeron: 41.25 -0.025mgs 7/2015-11/2018 Lamictal: 200mgs-0.05 mgs Had paradoxical reaction to Lamictal wd, broke my heart to take a benzo but wasn't sleeping. 3/28/2019 -2/5/ 2021 Clonazapam: 0.625mgs-.00115 Med Free July 27th, 2022**Severe Setback due to surgery/ anesthesia. 9/7/22-10/4/22 Trazadone 50-100mgs for sleep, 10/13/22-11/13/22 Trazadone 1 mg to stabilize 10/4/22-11/20/22 Remeron 7.5mgs (for sleep doesn't work) 11/20/22 7.3 - 12/31/22 6.3 2023: 1/18/23 6.1 - 6/6/23 3.6 6/16 3.4 6/28 3.0 7/12 2.7 7/28 2.5 8/11 2.2 8/23 2.0 9/5 1.8 9/16 1.6 9/30 1.4 10/13 1.2 10/26 1.0 11/9 0.8 11/22 0.6 12/6 0.4 12/23 0.2. 2024 1/4/24 Remeron/Mirtazapine free Additional Support: Armour Thyroid 75mgs, Magnesium Glycinate 300-500mgs, L-theanine Link to comment
Mentor Happy2Heal Posted November 4, 2018 Author Mentor Share Posted November 4, 2018 16 hours ago, Hibari said: It is so good to read your success story today. Congratulations on all that you have achieved. I'm so glad you as rw enjoying your life. May I ask about whether you went through periods of crying? I cry a lot these days and also am now experiencing what I hope is rebound depression and not real depression. I did actually got thru some pretty intense periods of crying but those happened more in the past, when I attempted to reduce my dose. I've had some crying jags during acute wd but most of those were actually a relief. they seemed to be more like delayed grief or processing losses from the past. I was glad that I could cry- I went for so many years not being able to feel sad or cry at all! I did have some low points with depression without any crying. Those periods were difficult but not very long, thankfully. I still have very short periods of feeling a bit depressed or hopeless, but those literally only last a few hours at most. I just acknowledge them and accept them and they pass! I'm sorry you're going thru some depression now, I bet you anything it will pass soon and you'll be feeling a lot better hugs, PLEASE DO NOT SEND ME PRIVATE MESSAGES, thank you. pysch med history: 1974 @ age 18 to Oct 2017 (approx 43 yrs total) Drug list: stelazine, haldol, elavil, lithium, zoloft, celexa, lexapro(doses as high as 40mgs), klonopin, ambien, seroquel(high doses), depakote, zyprexa, lamictal- plus brief trials of dozens of other psych meds over the years started lexapro 2002, dose varied from 20mgs to 40mgs. First attempt to get off it was 2007- WD symptoms were mistaken for "relapse". 2013 too fast taper down to 5mg but WD forced me back to 20mgs June of 2105, tapered again too rapidly to 2.5mgs by Dec 2015. Found SA, held at 2.5 mgs til May 2016 when I foolishly "jumped off". felt ok until Sept, then acute WD hit!! reinstated at 0.3mgs in Oct. 2106 Tapered off to zero by Oct. 2017 Doing very well. Nov. 2018 feel 95% healed, age 63 Jan. 2020 feel 100% healed, peaceful and content Dec 2023 Loving life! ❤️ with all it's ups and downs Link to comment
Mentor Happy2Heal Posted November 4, 2018 Author Mentor Share Posted November 4, 2018 10 hours ago, SquirrellyGirl said: I always wonder when people mention crying spells. Are we talking crying out of the blue, no real reason, or being more emotionally labile? Lately I've been the latter. I saw an ad on TV for Bohemian Rhapsody (movie) this morning and began thinking about Freddy Mercury and how sad that he died young and then I was weeping! I wept about all kinds of things this morning, that and my cat that disappeared over a year ago, and some moving video on twitter...But it feels good to FEEL! SG oh I agree with the "it feels good to feel!!" I have had both: crying spells for no reason, those were clearly WD/Recovery related, and were embarrassing when they happened outside my home (and just confounding when they happened when I was alone lol) the emotional lability doesn't really bother me, because like you, I'm just so happy to feel anything at all. but that has evened out a lot over time, and I don't get overly emotional much any more, my emotions seem to be getting closer to what seems "reasonable" - if there even is such a thing. so good to see you SG, how are you going these days? PLEASE DO NOT SEND ME PRIVATE MESSAGES, thank you. pysch med history: 1974 @ age 18 to Oct 2017 (approx 43 yrs total) Drug list: stelazine, haldol, elavil, lithium, zoloft, celexa, lexapro(doses as high as 40mgs), klonopin, ambien, seroquel(high doses), depakote, zyprexa, lamictal- plus brief trials of dozens of other psych meds over the years started lexapro 2002, dose varied from 20mgs to 40mgs. First attempt to get off it was 2007- WD symptoms were mistaken for "relapse". 2013 too fast taper down to 5mg but WD forced me back to 20mgs June of 2105, tapered again too rapidly to 2.5mgs by Dec 2015. Found SA, held at 2.5 mgs til May 2016 when I foolishly "jumped off". felt ok until Sept, then acute WD hit!! reinstated at 0.3mgs in Oct. 2106 Tapered off to zero by Oct. 2017 Doing very well. Nov. 2018 feel 95% healed, age 63 Jan. 2020 feel 100% healed, peaceful and content Dec 2023 Loving life! ❤️ with all it's ups and downs Link to comment
Rosetta Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 I'm so glad to see that you are essentially free. I hope I'm getting close, but I doubt it. You were feeling well a year ago, and I wasn't. Still, thank you for keeping us updated. Your story continues to give us all hope as you were on so many different drugs for so many years. We must all be able to heal because you did. Why it's shorter for some I suppose we won't know for a very long time, if ever. https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25 2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born) 2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg 2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction) 2016 - Stopped Xanax Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown) Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone Drug free since Feb 2017 2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep Link to comment
Mentor Happy2Heal Posted November 4, 2018 Author Mentor Share Posted November 4, 2018 14 minutes ago, Rosetta said: I'm so glad to see that you are essentially free. I hope I'm getting close, but I doubt it. You were feeling well a year ago, and I wasn't. Still, thank you for keeping us updated. Your story continues to give us all hope as you were on so many different drugs for so many years. We must all be able to heal because you did. Why it's shorter for some I suppose we won't know for a very long time, if ever. thanks Rosetta I think one thing that may have helped me is that I'm in (or past? never sure which is right) menopause so I don't have all the female hormones fluctuating month to month I think that makes a big difference. I was always very emotionally and physically affected by my periods with extreme mood swings. I also have very little stress in my life. in those two ways I feel fortunate. I am kind of amazed when I look at how long I was on those drugs, and how many!! that I've done so well. I didn't take any psych meds when I was pregnant and there were a couple of short periods when I wasn't on any drugs, but out of the 43 year history of accepting Rxes for that crap, I was on at least one and usually 2 or more psych drugs for a solid 40+ years that's a long time! so the human body/brain is a pretty amazing thing. like the energizer bunny, takes a lickin and keeps on tickin lol PLEASE DO NOT SEND ME PRIVATE MESSAGES, thank you. pysch med history: 1974 @ age 18 to Oct 2017 (approx 43 yrs total) Drug list: stelazine, haldol, elavil, lithium, zoloft, celexa, lexapro(doses as high as 40mgs), klonopin, ambien, seroquel(high doses), depakote, zyprexa, lamictal- plus brief trials of dozens of other psych meds over the years started lexapro 2002, dose varied from 20mgs to 40mgs. First attempt to get off it was 2007- WD symptoms were mistaken for "relapse". 2013 too fast taper down to 5mg but WD forced me back to 20mgs June of 2105, tapered again too rapidly to 2.5mgs by Dec 2015. Found SA, held at 2.5 mgs til May 2016 when I foolishly "jumped off". felt ok until Sept, then acute WD hit!! reinstated at 0.3mgs in Oct. 2106 Tapered off to zero by Oct. 2017 Doing very well. Nov. 2018 feel 95% healed, age 63 Jan. 2020 feel 100% healed, peaceful and content Dec 2023 Loving life! ❤️ with all it's ups and downs Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus manymoretodays Posted November 4, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted November 4, 2018 (edited) Very pleased and proud to do the honors of closing Happy2Heal's introduction topic. See Happy2Heal's success story here.....My Victory Statement Thrilled!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This topic is now closed to further comment. Edited November 4, 2018 by manymoretodays Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks. Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment
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