☼ Faithgrl: Bipolar II checking in...has anyone tried Prozac bridge or kambo

[Sicksagittarius]

@Faithgrl@AltostrataThank you so much for all your helpful advice! So I tired something similar to NAET today called the BAX 3000. He said I may feel out of it for the next few days but I think I'm regretting doing it. When it was being done, he uses a laser on different acupuncture points. As it was happenig I could feel my brain buzzing and I feel really heavy in my head now. He said for people it may take a a day or two to not feel out of it but im afraid i stimulated my nervous system, even though I told him i can't have anything stimulating or detoxifying.

 

@AltostrataI saw in a post of yours when you had a bad acupuncture reaction, you could reverse it with calming acupuncture points. I'm wondering if in a couple days this doesnt get better if I should try that next? I'm scared this feeling will last for months. I wanted to wait until I was out of this months long wave I'm in now (since July) from trying and stopping supplements / foods /extreme stress, but I have a hard time saying no because this treatment is supposed to help me tolerate more foods which I desperately need/ This treatment today was balacing and reprogramming my nervous system working with autonomic, endocrine, adrenals, etc and even my lexapro to help my body tolerate it more and eventually wean off. Here is an explanation of BAX 3000:

Sitting in front of the BAX system’s Digital Conductance Meter (DCM), a patient is exposed to digitalized frequencies via a radio wave transmitted through their body It will positively condition or train autonomic nervous system to no longer respond in stressful manner to substance. The laser is rebooting your body to perceive substances correctly. Our technological equipment used in the procedures is based on reducing the stress levels in the autonomic nervous system, because it is stress that causes most health related conditions. It identifies substances that cause stress levels to rise and these environmental stressors are paired with positive stimuli, which releases endorphins and enkephalins triggered by the nerve bundle stimulation. These two are natural sedative and pain killer of the body. Once released, they calm the nervous system and replace the negative association with a neutral association.These energetic frequencies match those of the substance(s) the person has been reacting to, such as milk, wheat, household cleaners, food additives, animal dander, dust and pollens. This fools the person’s body into thinking that it is being exposed to the actual items through ingestion, inhalation, and / or contact, thus setting up an imperceptible reaction in their body. At the same time, a small (cold) laser, which emits the same frequencies but at a homeopathic antidote dose, is applied to the central nervous system by shining the light first on the forehead then slowly moving it up over the top of the head and down along the spine to its base. This internally cancels the reaction and in effect reprograms the person’s body (just like with NAET) to no longer react to the substance. During the final portion of the treatment, the laser is applied to specific acupuncture points on the arms, hands, and feet to further strengthen the treatment.

[Altostrata]

Hello, I've reported everything I know about acupuncture in posts on this site. Please use search to find them.

 

I can't answer any questions about gastrointestinal issues, sorry.

 

@Sicksagittarius please look for topics in the Symptoms and Self-Care forum to post in and take this discussion out of Faithgrl's topic, which should be about her recovery from withdrawal.

[Faithgrl]

Hey @Sicksagittarius I suggest you don't think too much about it and try and sleep it off if it did something that you don't like. Try not to say... This thing that I did is going to set me back for life. You don't know that. Try and be like... I did this, it didn't work.. I am going to sleep it off until I try the next thing. I have personally failed on so many supps and waiting for the effects to pass sucks (fish oil and turmeric broke me out in scabs can you believe... So did organic food omg), but will suck even more if you like... Catastrophize it into your future. Something else to think about is that words have power..maybe.. And it is better not to speak bad things into your future. Just watch sex/life or twighlight and hope by the end of the season the wave is over. Not saying that's what you need to do or should do, just something that worked for me.

 

I tried acupuncture a few times. There was a guy in San Francisco who was suppose to be a miracle healer and he was... Ok. Otherwise nothing really stuck or made a huge difference in any of the symtoms.

 

 

[Faithgrl]

Hello all! Its another update and probably on my way to a success story I am pleased to report. My 1st kid is about 3 years old now and I am pregnant with my second. I am feeling abit blah with this second pregnancy as it came from IVF and that was an exhausting journey in itself, and feel like I have had ALL of the symtoms of pregnancy including first trimester fatigue, irritability, and now I am feeling anxious about the birth almost to the point of wondering if the dep and anx has returned. (For those wondering, I haven't had any symtoms of kindling from the IVF meds which was good, nothing more than the usual bloatdness and stress of IVF. But I started IVF in 2022 when I was completely off since 2017)

 

I had a dim idea I could go back to the meds but I swore to myself never again so now I am in 2nd trimester and feeling abit better.

 

However, something that woke me up last Friday on a visit to the Obstetrician is that I told him I was anxious about the birth, the pain, the pushing, the other half seeing me in pain and being traumatized, or recovering from a C section and being in a coma for like a month. He told me that a c section isn't that bad and really has no medical consequences (such as on breastfeeding etc...) and that DEEPLY triggered in me almost a flash back to when I was sitting with the doc some 25 years ago telling them I felt depressed and wanted to die most of the time and he offered me meds...with no consequences. Logically its not the same thing. An offering of AD usually comes with no plan to come off (not sure if its changed these days) and a c section comes with...well a month of painkillers, while trying to look after a newborn and feeling constantly exhausted from the painkillers and possibly crappy breastfeeding at the beginning. I get it. The difference is only a month of ..mild pain and fatigue v maybe 24 hours pretty severe pain. But there is a price to be paid and there is no such thing as a free lunch.

 

I felt SO angry and so lied to. But its also my own fault. I should have known not to take any of my feelings to the medical profession as they will be medicated, because thats the only thing in their toolkit. I mean what I really needed to know is birth education - pre pregnancy exercises, breathing techniques  and being educated enough to be confident and not be anxious. And also knowing I have a safety net being the medical profession if all else fails.

 

Its very similar to the AD journey actually - taking responsibility for my own stuff and finding out what would heal it and being determined enough to come out of it no matter what.  And if I survived 3 years of AD wdl by educating myself and learning what I need to learn and then some...then I can absolutely survive this.

 

Its SUCH a lifestyle change doing this. Questioning medical authority. Asking them what the consequences of the proposed course of action is. And gathering evidence to question what they know as oppose to obeying without question. And making my OWN assessment of risk. Making a REALLY informed choice. 

 

So I am now in touch with a doula to see if she can take me through this journey without the meds. And looking at another OB to be more supportive of my journey without meds (if possible). I am not brave enough to homebirth in my own bathtub un-medicated under a full moon (lol) but I am praying HARD to God for guidance and asking him to open doors to where he wants me to be (so if the doula and the new OB i wanted say they are too busy then I know I am stuck). And if thats a c section plus painkillers thats ok. But I want to give myself a chance of staying awake for the 1st month with no painkillers.

 

Thanks for listening and letting me share.