btdt Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 http://www.currentpsychiatry.com/home/article/how-to-prevent-adverse-drug-events/3a35207902340a6b4faeb4eb00468462.html There may be some information here that could spare you some suffering and damage. Knowledge can sometimes translate to power. It can perhaps be a starting place to talk to your doctor about drug reactions if this is a problem for you as it has been for me. "Psychiatrists have an opportunity to reduce rates of ADEs; however, the possibility of disease symptoms overlapping with these adverse events is 1 of many obstacles prescribing clinicians face.1Prescribers also must contend with adverse effects of polypharmacy, which are common among psychiatric patients. Patient-related factors of concern include: seeing multiple prescribers medication nonadherence failure to communicate use of herbal or over-the-counter products lack of insight comorbid medical and psychiatric diagnoses, such as dementia.1 This article highlights potential ADEs and major medication safety concerns that may contribute to morbidity and mortality among patients taking psychotropics. Some of this I have to translate to blah blah blah... sorry this may be uncalled for I am not a good judge of it all... Tables: Table 1 How to avoid ADEs with psychotropics however you will also find this at the link..notes to the shrink..I am a big fan of this one.. "Avoid using 1 drug to treat the side effects of another. Minimizing polypharmacy can reduce medication errors, DDIs, and ADEs" There are a few more tables you may find helpful Table 2 Cytochrome P450 substrates, inhibitors, and inducers Table 3 Psychotropics associated with QT prolongation Table 4 Which psychotropics carry ‘black-box’ warnings? There is more on page 2 I like these bits, better than most... "Unrecognized or undertreated akathisia is most commonly associated with antipsychotics, but also can occur with SSRIs. Although akathisia is commonly thought of as a motor syndrome of restlessness, patients may find the less-recognized psychic symptoms of increased inner turmoil and hallucinations just as distressing. This complex of symptoms is associated with an increased risk of suicide.23 If discontinuing the offending agent is not feasible, akathisia can be treated with beta blockers, benzodiazepines, or anticholinergics.24" "Geriatric patients are vulnerable to falls and resultant hip fractures related to use of TCAs, SSRIs, benzodiazepines, and antipsychotics. This is not a trivial matter; hip fractures increase the mortality rate by 12% to 20% in the year after the injury.21The risk of falls is related to sedation, orthostatic hypotension, arrhythmias, and confusion associated with psychotropics.21,22 Cause my livers is ill I have to add this "MAOIs and TCAs can cause cholestatic liver injury, whereas nefazodone has been associated with fulminant liver failure. Other psychotropics—including SSRIs, antipsychotics, benzodiazepines, and older antiepileptics—can cause negative hepatic effects but rarely are associated with acute liver failure.25,26 Although few medications can cause complete liver failure on their own, hepatotoxicity from medications may precipitate severe, potentially fatal outcomes in patients with underlying liver diseases such as hepatitis and cirrhosis. Additive hepatotoxicity from multiple medications also can be problematic. Although psychotropic-induced hepatotoxicity is rare, assess psychotropic doses in patients with liver dysfunction, because drug clearance may be altered, which increases the risk for other serious adverse events.25" This one is the winner.. " Medications could interact with other drugs as long as their effects persist in the body, which could be days to months after the drug is discontinued.. one day it may say years I will wait. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btdt Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 I truly interesting page on adverse drug reactions http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4592529/ This is an image from that page. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4592529/figure/fig02/ WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btdt Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 an interesting little table from the above site at this link http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4592529/table/tbl1/ No I don't understand this page but I like it.. if you understand it and want to educate me please do I am all ears peace all Table 1 The 24 predicted associations associated with six drugs and their corresponding scores Drug names ADRs Scores Ibuprofen Bronchitis 0.998 Peripheral edema 0.990 Dysphagia 0.990 Gastroenteritis 0.998 Hypokalemia 0.986 Sinusitis 0.974 Goserelin Breast tenderness 0.960 Cyst 0.988 Pulmonary embolism 0.998 Acne 0.958 Cystitis 0.952 Prednisone Cardiomegaly 0.996 Vasculitis 0.974 Thrombophlebitis 0.982 Diabetes mellitus 0.962 Phenytoin Diabetes mellitus 0.998 Aspiration pneumonia 0.990 Liver function tests abnormal 0.996 Atenolol Weight gain 0.964 Pneumonia 0.984 Erythema multiforme 0.962 Methylprednisolone Vasculitis 0.976 Neuropathy 0.982 Cardiomyopathy 0.984 WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btdt Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 From the FDA costs associated with ADR $136 BILLION YEARLY... Lots to learn at the FDA website too... you can find it here http://www.fda.gov/Drugs/DevelopmentApprovalProcess/DevelopmentResources/DrugInteractionsLabeling/ucm110632.htm#DrugMetabolism "We can next ask ourselves, what are the health care costs associated with adverse drug reactions? Again, methodological constraints limit making completely accurate estimates, but one estimate of the cost of drug-related morbidity and mortality is $136 billion annually,1 which is more than the total cost of cardiovascular or diabetic care in the United States. In addition, one out of 5 injuries or deaths per year to hospitalized patients may be as a result of ADRs.2 Finally, a two-fold greater mean length of stay, cost and mortality has been reported for hospitalized patients experiencing an ADR compared to a control group of patients without an adverse drug reaction.3" " If these estimates are correct, then there are more than 2,216,000 serious ADRs in hospitalized patients, causing over 106,000 deaths annually. If true, then ADRs are the 4th leading cause of death—ahead of pulmonary disease, diabetes, AIDS, pneumonia, accidents, and automobile deaths." A table anyone with drug interaction or adverse reactions should have http://medicine.iupui.edu/clinpharm/ddis/main-table WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btdt Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 http://www.currentpsychiatry.com/home/article/how-to-prevent-adverse-drug-events/3a35207902340a6b4faeb4eb00468462.html There may be some information here that could spare you some suffering and damage. Knowledge can sometimes translate to power. It can perhaps be a starting place to talk to your doctor about drug reactions if this is a problem for you as it has been for me. "Psychiatrists have an opportunity to reduce rates of ADEs; however, the possibility of disease symptoms overlapping with these adverse events is 1 of many obstacles prescribing clinicians face.1Prescribers also must contend with adverse effects of polypharmacy, which are common among psychiatric patients. Patient-related factors of concern include: seeing multiple prescribers medication nonadherence failure to communicate use of herbal or over-the-counter products lack of insight comorbid medical and psychiatric diagnoses, such as dementia.1 This article highlights potential ADEs and major medication safety concerns that may contribute to morbidity and mortality among patients taking psychotropics. Some of this I have to translate to blah blah blah... sorry this may be uncalled for I am not a good judge of it all... Tables: Table 1 How to avoid ADEs with psychotropics however you will also find this at the link..notes to the shrink..I am a big fan of this one.. "Avoid using 1 drug to treat the side effects of another. Minimizing polypharmacy can reduce medication errors, DDIs, and ADEs" There are a few more tables you may find helpful Table 2 Cytochrome P450 substrates, inhibitors, and inducers Table 3 Psychotropics associated with QT prolongation Table 4 Which psychotropics carry ‘black-box’ warnings? There is more on page 2 I like these bits, better than most... "Unrecognized or undertreated akathisia is most commonly associated with antipsychotics, but also can occur with SSRIs. Although akathisia is commonly thought of as a motor syndrome of restlessness, patients may find the less-recognized psychic symptoms of increased inner turmoil and hallucinations just as distressing. This complex of symptoms is associated with an increased risk of suicide.23 If discontinuing the offending agent is not feasible, akathisia can be treated with beta blockers, benzodiazepines, or anticholinergics.24" "Geriatric patients are vulnerable to falls and resultant hip fractures related to use of TCAs, SSRIs, benzodiazepines, and antipsychotics. This is not a trivial matter; hip fractures increase the mortality rate by 12% to 20% in the year after the injury.21The risk of falls is related to sedation, orthostatic hypotension, arrhythmias, and confusion associated with psychotropics.21,22 Cause my livers is ill I have to add this "MAOIs and TCAs can cause cholestatic liver injury, whereas nefazodone has been associated with fulminant liver failure. Other psychotropics—including SSRIs, antipsychotics, benzodiazepines, and older antiepileptics—can cause negative hepatic effects but rarely are associated with acute liver failure.25,26 Although few medications can cause complete liver failure on their own, hepatotoxicity from medications may precipitate severe, potentially fatal outcomes in patients with underlying liver diseases such as hepatitis and cirrhosis. Additive hepatotoxicity from multiple medications also can be problematic. Although psychotropic-induced hepatotoxicity is rare, assess psychotropic doses in patients with liver dysfunction, because drug clearance may be altered, which increases the risk for other serious adverse events.25" This one is the winner.. " Medications could interact with other drugs as long as their effects persist in the body, which could be days to months after the drug is discontinued.. one day it may say years I will wait. I accessed this page one hour ago ... now this message appears WELCOME TO THE FRONTLINE MEDICAL COMMUNICATIONS DIGITAL NETWORK VIP (Very Important Professional) status gives you FREE access to exclusive features, news and more. Your free site membership includes: Coverage of over 200 medical meetings and events • Free CME • MD-IQ Quizzes • New drug approvals, practice guidelines, and specialty news •Newsletters tailored to your specialty interest • Videos, podcasts, and more. YOU CAN'T ACCESS ANY OF THE TABLES I MADE REFERENCE TO IN MY FIRST POST ... HOW VERY FAST THEY WORK..WITHIN AN HOUR OF BEING LINKED ON SA WALLA... NO MORE ACCESS WE HAVE A MOLE OR A MOLE INFESTATION WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vonnegutjunky Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Interesting that they mention psychic akathisia like symptoms - that's what I have and it's so distressing - *Currently at 8.2-8.5 mg of my 10mg pill of Paxil (they actually weigh 12.5mg) january 2023 I began reducing my med again. I was a 9mg weight for years, I went to 8.9 in January, went to 8.6mg in February, and in March 2023 I went down to 8.5-8.2 mg ( my scale varies, so I stick within that .3 range because of that) *No other supplements or vitamins *Taper schedule in the pdf Blank.pdf https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-5vShtJtwAOGA30OxIP87steLmMdFzD29F0fzAPD564 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btdt Posted January 27, 2016 Author Share Posted January 27, 2016 Interesting there is no list of drugs... that bugs me I would love to have access to this tool. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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