Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted August 31, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 31, 2019 6 minutes ago, Hisame said: I walk in nature. That is good. I suggest that you set a reminder for several times throughout the day and use some relaxation techniques. That way you will be given your nervous system some "time out" and it might help to stop the build up happening because you are reducing it before it gets to the "boiling point". Like a relief valve. So instead of l l l l l l l l l l l l l it's l l l l l ll l l l l ll l l l l l 7 minutes ago, Hisame said: If pain remains unbearable and last for too long, I think I won’t have the choice. That is understandable and the decision is yours. However I would urge you to make sure that you do your research. I was recently in a lot of pain. The doctor (junior) did a urine test (clear), blood test (showed bit of infection, checked my temperature (slightly raised), ultrasound was clear. It was good that she did all the tests from the start and didn't send me off for one and then another etc. Then I was given a prescription for Cipro (know a bit about it from SA) which I questioned and asked if there was any other option. She said that was what is used for these types of issues. When I returned home I did some more research and it turns out that there are at least 3 warnings that the FDA has put out about these types of drugs. I rang her up and she asked why I had changed my mind and I told her about the FDA warnings and asked her to consult with my regular doctor. She rang back and told me that they understand my concerns and not to take the Cipro but return the next day for a follow up blood test to check for infection. I was also checking my temperature which was normal. The blood test came back normal. The interesting thing is that when I went back for a CT scan and mentioned this (Cipro) to a couple of the radiologists they both, at the same time, made negative comments, something like oh no. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Hisame Posted August 31, 2019 Author Share Posted August 31, 2019 14 minutes ago, ChessieCat said: That is understandable and the decision is yours. However I would urge you to make sure that you do your research. I was recently in a lot of pain. The doctor (junior) did a urine test (clear), blood test (showed bit of infection, checked my temperature (slightly raised), ultrasound was clear. It was good that she did all the tests from the start and didn't send me off for one and then another etc. Then I was given a prescription for Cipro (know a bit about it from SA) which I questioned and asked if there was any other option. She said that was what is used for these types of issues. When I returned home I did some more research and it turns out that there are at least 3 warnings that the FDA has put out about these types of drugs. I rang her up and she asked why I had changed my mind and I told her about the FDA warnings and asked her to consult with my regular doctor. She rang back and told me that they understand my concerns and not to take the Cipro but return the next day for a follow up blood test to check for infection. I was also checking my temperature which was normal. The blood test came back normal. The interesting thing is that when I went back for a CT scan and mentioned this (Cipro) to a couple of the radiologists they both, at the same time, made negative comments, something like oh no. I have the same doctor 😅 When I was ill in early 2018, and it turned into prostatitis, he prescribed me an antibiotic that is strictly reserved for women (and I’m a man😑) I had to discover it by myself when reading the leaflet. - 2002 -> 2012 : Paxil, 20 mg for anxiety - January 2012 : 1 month withdrawal -> depression, burning sensations in my legs - February 2012 : reinstate 20 mg -> back to normal - January 2014 -> August 2015 : « alternate days » tapering from 20mg to 2,5 mg -> anxiety, back pain and trouble focusing - 4 september 2015 -> panic attack, psychiatric hospital for 1 week, stop Paxil, get Clomipramine, Abilify, Domperidone for 2 weeks, then stop everything - 20 september 2015 : try to reinstate Paxil 20 mg -> permanent tinnitus with only one tablet - Free from paxil since september 2015 ->suffering from permanent side effects : tinnitus, hyperacusis, neuropathic pain, prostatitis, depression, suicidal ideations, akathisia. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted August 31, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 31, 2019 Head banging stuff, that's for sure. When I checked my CT scan report before leaving there was no mention in the report of the kidney cyst that I had had the scan for (had been found during ultrasound). I went back in and told them about it and got the report updated. The CT scan found no cyst, but to leave mention of it out completely is very sloppy work. I'm seeing my regular doctor for the follow up appointment 😉 * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Hisame Posted August 31, 2019 Author Share Posted August 31, 2019 Yes It will be better with your regular doctor 😃 Today was really hard. I woke up suddenly after just 1 hour of sleeping and had a panic attack because I can't realize what is happening to me. I finally managed to calm myself, and to sleep a few more hours. If only the pains could decrease a little 😥 - 2002 -> 2012 : Paxil, 20 mg for anxiety - January 2012 : 1 month withdrawal -> depression, burning sensations in my legs - February 2012 : reinstate 20 mg -> back to normal - January 2014 -> August 2015 : « alternate days » tapering from 20mg to 2,5 mg -> anxiety, back pain and trouble focusing - 4 september 2015 -> panic attack, psychiatric hospital for 1 week, stop Paxil, get Clomipramine, Abilify, Domperidone for 2 weeks, then stop everything - 20 september 2015 : try to reinstate Paxil 20 mg -> permanent tinnitus with only one tablet - Free from paxil since september 2015 ->suffering from permanent side effects : tinnitus, hyperacusis, neuropathic pain, prostatitis, depression, suicidal ideations, akathisia. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted August 31, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 31, 2019 Are you taking, or have you tried any magnesium? Magnesium You might also find a weighted blanket helps: weighted-blankets-bed-tents-for-restlessness-akathisia-insomnia-and-anxiety Or play soft music all night. See the links in Post #1 of this topic: Sleep problems - that awful withdrawal insomnia * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Hisame Posted September 1, 2019 Author Share Posted September 1, 2019 I didn't know weighted blanket. And now that I think about it, it's true that I prefer being in winter when I have some blanket over me. I'm already used to listening classical music over the radio 😉 I never tried magnesium, but Vitamin D, Vitamin B12, and wasn't very well. I think I'm too sensitive 😞 Today, I feel a tiny bit better. I went for a walk through the fields. Hope it will continue ! Thanks again ChessieCat, I hope you're fine 😊 - 2002 -> 2012 : Paxil, 20 mg for anxiety - January 2012 : 1 month withdrawal -> depression, burning sensations in my legs - February 2012 : reinstate 20 mg -> back to normal - January 2014 -> August 2015 : « alternate days » tapering from 20mg to 2,5 mg -> anxiety, back pain and trouble focusing - 4 september 2015 -> panic attack, psychiatric hospital for 1 week, stop Paxil, get Clomipramine, Abilify, Domperidone for 2 weeks, then stop everything - 20 september 2015 : try to reinstate Paxil 20 mg -> permanent tinnitus with only one tablet - Free from paxil since september 2015 ->suffering from permanent side effects : tinnitus, hyperacusis, neuropathic pain, prostatitis, depression, suicidal ideations, akathisia. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted September 1, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted September 1, 2019 A word of caution about magnesium supplements. I bought a new bottle yesterday but was looking at the other brands to compare prices. All of the others had added vitamins, D and a B vitamin possible B6(?). Vitamin D should be taken in the morning, and B6 can be activating. I take 1/2 tablet of magnesium morning and night so I don't want Vitamin D or B at night time. I think it would be worth trying some magnesium. Try a small amount first. And only make one change at a time. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
LadyBartonella Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 hisame do you still wd from paroxetine.? OMG what an evil drug. I wish you are doing better 2012 March- low anxiety, I started sertraline and I got adverse reaction. -.I got depression, ss thoughts and other bad symptoms 2012 May I was put on Clonozepam & paroxetine- it helped. I stopped clonozepam after 4 months with no issue. 2012- 2016 paroxetine 20 mg/ 30 mg 10/2016-02/2017 I tappered paroxetine and during this I was feeling wonderfull. 3 months without paroxetine and withdrawal syndrome appeared. I went back to paroxetine but I couldn't stabilise. CRASH 01/08/2016--Bridge to fluoxetine. fluoxetine 20 mg , triticco / trazadone 75 mg , clonozepam 0,5mg September 2016 I was diagnosed with Lyme disease. I did test in two different laboratories- both positive 04.03.2017. from 20.11.2017 I started tapper from 0.5 to 0.125 mg- when I got some relief from Lyme treatment. I crashed on 01.02.2018, I slowed down tappering. 20/03/2019- clonozepam 0,0062 mg, fluoxetine 20 mg, trazadone 75 mg28/06/2019- clonozepam 0,0023 mg, trazadone 75 mg, fluoxetine 20 mg 29/07/2019- clonozepam 0,0012 mg trazadone 75 mg, fluo-20 mg 13/08/2019 clonozepam 0,0006 mg I cut trazadone to 50 mg bcs of terrible fatique- big MISTAKE- 21.08.2019 updosed trazadone to 62 mg-still WD- 28.08.2019 oryginal dosage 75 mg 26/09/2019 OFF clonozepam, fluoxetine 20 mg, trazadone 75 mg 06/05/2023 OFF clonozepam, fluoxetine 17 mg, trazadone 25 mg HOLD from 20.11.2021 FROM WD of paroxetine 2017 I have not recovered. I was diagnosed with Lyme, Bartonella , mold, I have low dao (Diamine oxidase). I don't know why but I have some relief from resweratrol, ginger, famotidine (Pepcid) Link to comment
Hisame Posted September 1, 2019 Author Share Posted September 1, 2019 2 hours ago, LadyBartonella said: hisame do you still wd from paroxetine.? OMG what an evil drug. I wish you are doing better Thanks LadyBartonella. My withdrawal is over since 4 years, but I didn't do it right. I didn't know slow liquid tapering, and my psychiatrist of that time headed me for a dead end with wonderful "alternate days" tapering 😱 Even if it took 1 and a half years, it was like a CT, and maybe worse due to permanent discontinuation. I like your photo profile ! Looks like you're still in trouble with meds, I hope things will be better for you 🤗 - 2002 -> 2012 : Paxil, 20 mg for anxiety - January 2012 : 1 month withdrawal -> depression, burning sensations in my legs - February 2012 : reinstate 20 mg -> back to normal - January 2014 -> August 2015 : « alternate days » tapering from 20mg to 2,5 mg -> anxiety, back pain and trouble focusing - 4 september 2015 -> panic attack, psychiatric hospital for 1 week, stop Paxil, get Clomipramine, Abilify, Domperidone for 2 weeks, then stop everything - 20 september 2015 : try to reinstate Paxil 20 mg -> permanent tinnitus with only one tablet - Free from paxil since september 2015 ->suffering from permanent side effects : tinnitus, hyperacusis, neuropathic pain, prostatitis, depression, suicidal ideations, akathisia. Link to comment
Hisame Posted September 2, 2019 Author Share Posted September 2, 2019 Still a bad day. Paraesthesia have decreased a little, but pains don't change, and it's creeping me out. Sleep is a little better, that's something. What a life. - 2002 -> 2012 : Paxil, 20 mg for anxiety - January 2012 : 1 month withdrawal -> depression, burning sensations in my legs - February 2012 : reinstate 20 mg -> back to normal - January 2014 -> August 2015 : « alternate days » tapering from 20mg to 2,5 mg -> anxiety, back pain and trouble focusing - 4 september 2015 -> panic attack, psychiatric hospital for 1 week, stop Paxil, get Clomipramine, Abilify, Domperidone for 2 weeks, then stop everything - 20 september 2015 : try to reinstate Paxil 20 mg -> permanent tinnitus with only one tablet - Free from paxil since september 2015 ->suffering from permanent side effects : tinnitus, hyperacusis, neuropathic pain, prostatitis, depression, suicidal ideations, akathisia. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted September 3, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted September 3, 2019 On 9/1/2019 at 7:03 PM, Hisame said: I never tried magnesium A comment by Altostrata, this site's founder: Magnesium in particular can help relax muscles. Using magnesium oil on your legs or taking Epsom salts baths might relieve some of the discomfort. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Hisame Posted September 3, 2019 Author Share Posted September 3, 2019 Hi Chessie, But the pains are in the surface of my skin, like it was sunburnt, not in the muscles. Do you really think magnesium could help neuropathic pain ? Now I remember trying magnesium mixed with water, but it was 4 years ago, and it gave me nausea 😐 - 2002 -> 2012 : Paxil, 20 mg for anxiety - January 2012 : 1 month withdrawal -> depression, burning sensations in my legs - February 2012 : reinstate 20 mg -> back to normal - January 2014 -> August 2015 : « alternate days » tapering from 20mg to 2,5 mg -> anxiety, back pain and trouble focusing - 4 september 2015 -> panic attack, psychiatric hospital for 1 week, stop Paxil, get Clomipramine, Abilify, Domperidone for 2 weeks, then stop everything - 20 september 2015 : try to reinstate Paxil 20 mg -> permanent tinnitus with only one tablet - Free from paxil since september 2015 ->suffering from permanent side effects : tinnitus, hyperacusis, neuropathic pain, prostatitis, depression, suicidal ideations, akathisia. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted September 3, 2019 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted September 3, 2019 If it gave you nausea you might have been taking too much and/or the wrong type of magnesium. Also was it only magnesium or did it have anything else added? I've just done a google search for "magnesium for neur" and it brought up other searches which people have done. And there are other search links which appear at the bottom of the page too. I suggest you do your own research. You could dissolve some magnesium or epsom salts in small amount of water and rub it on a small area where you have the pain and see if it helps. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Hisame Posted September 3, 2019 Author Share Posted September 3, 2019 6 hours ago, ChessieCat said: Also was it only magnesium or did it have anything else added? No It was only magnesium, in powder. Maybe I will give it a try. There must be magnesium in capsules. It' just.... I remember 4 years ago when all of this started. I tried a LOT of things (not in the meantime): vit D, B12, Saffron, St John's wort (I know it's like ssri), Omega3, I don't remember everything...and it wasn't convincing, sometimes worse (with D, B12...) By the way, Thanks ChessieCat for your help ! I sleep a little better, but that pain..... ah la la la la la...... Thanks a lot Mister dentist 😫 - 2002 -> 2012 : Paxil, 20 mg for anxiety - January 2012 : 1 month withdrawal -> depression, burning sensations in my legs - February 2012 : reinstate 20 mg -> back to normal - January 2014 -> August 2015 : « alternate days » tapering from 20mg to 2,5 mg -> anxiety, back pain and trouble focusing - 4 september 2015 -> panic attack, psychiatric hospital for 1 week, stop Paxil, get Clomipramine, Abilify, Domperidone for 2 weeks, then stop everything - 20 september 2015 : try to reinstate Paxil 20 mg -> permanent tinnitus with only one tablet - Free from paxil since september 2015 ->suffering from permanent side effects : tinnitus, hyperacusis, neuropathic pain, prostatitis, depression, suicidal ideations, akathisia. Link to comment
Hisame Posted September 4, 2019 Author Share Posted September 4, 2019 This morning I feel better 😃 - 2002 -> 2012 : Paxil, 20 mg for anxiety - January 2012 : 1 month withdrawal -> depression, burning sensations in my legs - February 2012 : reinstate 20 mg -> back to normal - January 2014 -> August 2015 : « alternate days » tapering from 20mg to 2,5 mg -> anxiety, back pain and trouble focusing - 4 september 2015 -> panic attack, psychiatric hospital for 1 week, stop Paxil, get Clomipramine, Abilify, Domperidone for 2 weeks, then stop everything - 20 september 2015 : try to reinstate Paxil 20 mg -> permanent tinnitus with only one tablet - Free from paxil since september 2015 ->suffering from permanent side effects : tinnitus, hyperacusis, neuropathic pain, prostatitis, depression, suicidal ideations, akathisia. Link to comment
shawny Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 @Hisame has ur tinnitus gone ? how long u had tinniuts ? Sept 28 : nov 10 amitriptyline 10 mg no history of drugs in past symptoms mild grainy vision , visual snow tinnitus dizziness floters difficult in focusin muscle pain Link to comment
Hisame Posted September 9, 2019 Author Share Posted September 9, 2019 11 hours ago, shawny said: @Hisame has ur tinnitus gone ? how long u had tinniuts ? Hi shawny, Unfortunately my tinnitus is permanent. I got this for 4 years now. It became slowly worse, with new ringing that has been added. Are you still taking amitriptyline ? - 2002 -> 2012 : Paxil, 20 mg for anxiety - January 2012 : 1 month withdrawal -> depression, burning sensations in my legs - February 2012 : reinstate 20 mg -> back to normal - January 2014 -> August 2015 : « alternate days » tapering from 20mg to 2,5 mg -> anxiety, back pain and trouble focusing - 4 september 2015 -> panic attack, psychiatric hospital for 1 week, stop Paxil, get Clomipramine, Abilify, Domperidone for 2 weeks, then stop everything - 20 september 2015 : try to reinstate Paxil 20 mg -> permanent tinnitus with only one tablet - Free from paxil since september 2015 ->suffering from permanent side effects : tinnitus, hyperacusis, neuropathic pain, prostatitis, depression, suicidal ideations, akathisia. Link to comment
shawny Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 no I was on that thing for a month last year september and october , and Il still going through withdrawal . My symptoms are floaters tinnitus afterimages Sept 28 : nov 10 amitriptyline 10 mg no history of drugs in past symptoms mild grainy vision , visual snow tinnitus dizziness floters difficult in focusin muscle pain Link to comment
Hisame Posted September 10, 2019 Author Share Posted September 10, 2019 You've got all of this symptoms just for one month ! It's unfair ! I'm really sorry for you. It must be a kind of adverse reaction 😥 - 2002 -> 2012 : Paxil, 20 mg for anxiety - January 2012 : 1 month withdrawal -> depression, burning sensations in my legs - February 2012 : reinstate 20 mg -> back to normal - January 2014 -> August 2015 : « alternate days » tapering from 20mg to 2,5 mg -> anxiety, back pain and trouble focusing - 4 september 2015 -> panic attack, psychiatric hospital for 1 week, stop Paxil, get Clomipramine, Abilify, Domperidone for 2 weeks, then stop everything - 20 september 2015 : try to reinstate Paxil 20 mg -> permanent tinnitus with only one tablet - Free from paxil since september 2015 ->suffering from permanent side effects : tinnitus, hyperacusis, neuropathic pain, prostatitis, depression, suicidal ideations, akathisia. Link to comment
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