nz11 Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 This caught my eye today in NZ Herald. One of New Zealand's best-known actresses, Sophia Hawthorne, has died suddenly. She was just 38 ....oh i thought gee thats young to 'pass away' I wonder what happened.? then i saw this ... In lieu of flowers Elizabeth and Raymond have asked to please consider a donation to The Mental Health Foundation. I wonder if this was another iatrogenic death? I wonder if she had been swallowing stuff from the doctor? I wonder if she had recently been trying to quit the drug? I wonder if her doctor gave her a negligent non-existent taper schedule? http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11592313 By the way this wasnt the only possible and highly likely iatrogenic injury i spied in the same newspaper today. There was a second one though not a death Lizzie Marvelly...both of them have gone ..as they do under the radar. http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11592599 When I was in the grips of major depressive disorder, I would quite literally hide in my wardrobe. I'd crawl in there, curl up into a ball, and cry. I'd sleep until 4pm and wake up exhausted; I hated myself, and blamed myself. Frankly, it sucked. You can no more snap out of having a mental illness than you could snap out of having diabetes. It's like an alien force that takes up residence in your head. Like diabetes, however, mental illness is treatable, and clinical interventions can save lives. I'm not saying anything but ... I wonder if this was ssri symptoms? and the community in general whats happening ....then i read this: The situation in Christchurch is bleaker. In April last year, mental health services in Christchurch reported a 43 per cent increase in adults seeking the help of mental health services, and a 69 per cent increase in children and youth seeking mental health help. The number of youth seeking help would be higher without the support of the Canterbury District Health Board's schools programme. Post-earthquake Christchurch, quite simply, and understandably, is struggling. Whats bleak is the fact people are being herded towards people with prescribing ability and that is what is bleak and dangerous. nz11 Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing. http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651 Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos. Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you Recovering paxil addict None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped." Dr Mosher. Me too! Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015 I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015 Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btdt Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 The herding has been attempted for years and to my eye is finally completely successfully integrated into school systems and other systems in my country. I am sure it is the same in many other places. I too had a spell of hiding in the wardrobe I called it a closet .. when I had a brief run it with paxil between zoloft and effexor... I remember it well. The give away for me in all this is before meds I never was in complete despair never needed to hide any place closet or otherwise and never took the meds initially for a mental health reason... I took it for pain control only. After meds I had a wide array of symptoms dxs and drug treatment. What stand out from the above and point to possible drug induced despair to me is the 4am issue... this was such a prominent point for people in wd at pp there was a thread started by our currant admin with 4am in the title which has several pages of posts because 4am was such a common issue for those hurt by drugs. It became apparent to me at least that this was marking a certain variable that was more than just a mental health issue. 4am became one of the wd symptoms as much as brain zaps... these two things are hand in hand as being specific for wd in my mind. The 4am could be a time for waking or a time one could finally sleep but 4am remained a common thread. Getting rid of pp and other sites like the effexoractivist and the effexortopix site would certainly limit the knowledge... as I have said before I will say again... there are tons of scientific studies not favourable to ssri drugs that are no longer available online this is not an accident I am sure. Where else would you learn the small ins and out about wd like the 4am wake up call but a wd site... hitting on something like that is rare... rare and gone. I do wonder if this site will last as should it fallow the way of the other sites it would be the 5th wd site I have been part of that disappeared. Even the bits that can be found of those sites on way back seem to have been scrubbed of links and actual cut and paste articles posted to them. I know as I have tried a few times to find things ... I am self taught and older on the computer and not that good so it could be me in part. As this melds into society over the decades without any notice long after we have been trying to have it noticed regardless of how much noise we make it is obvious all of this is being wilfully ignored for a bigger reason... we are at cross objective with those who make the rules ... it is not truth or care and healing that is running this show. It is easy to think profit is the prize but the longer it goes on with all the global implications I have began to suspect there may be more sinister reasons for the neglect. Should these drugs be marketed for political reasons they could obviously form a world to the liking of the those in the know. If you wanted competition ..a person or family or group destroyed drugging them for perceived sadness shyness... ect you pick would surely be a way to reach that objective. Want the 99% to shut up and be quiet... drug them they will be too sick to cause a fuss. I watched this show tonight I have seen it before and thought I posted a link on SA in the past but I don't see it today. It points out how all this is done and I offer it here tho I plan on putting on its own too. Once we understand the bigger picture and the process of how this all works together it gives us one more reason to be up at 4am... worry. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4ou9rOssPg WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nz11 Posted February 20, 2016 Author Share Posted February 20, 2016 Thanks for posting btdt. I missed that 4am thread at pp but boy oh boy i'm sure living it now! Yes it is tragic whenever a site of truth is lost. That movie looks interesting sure is long 2 hours worth. Wow 37min i cant believe how many companies are paying fines as part of business. Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing. http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651 Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos. Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you Recovering paxil addict None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped." Dr Mosher. Me too! Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015 I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015 Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nz11 Posted February 20, 2016 Author Share Posted February 20, 2016 The good thing about these threads is they appear on internet searches. As such if a family member or close friend of Sophia is reading this i would like to hear from you and to know what she was taking from the doctor (if anything)...paroxetine? citalopram? or maybe she had asked the doctor if 'venlafaxine was right for her' A site called antidepaware is collecting details of iatrogenic deaths . Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing. http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651 Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos. Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you Recovering paxil addict None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped." Dr Mosher. Me too! Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015 I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015 Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btdt Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Thanks for posting btdt. I missed that 4am thread at pp but boy oh boy i'm sure living it now! Yes it is tragic whenever a site of truth is lost. That movie looks interesting sure is long 2 hours worth. Wow 37min i cant believe how many companies are paying fines as part of business. I know they figure fines lawyers and lawsuits into the cost of doing whatever they want ... what brings the greatest profit. I would appear they are not swayed by the fines in the least it makes me wonder why not... guess the fines are not big enough so who ever is setting the fine does not have a handle on how much they are making from being dirty or they do not report all the income ... if they are reporting ..or the right amount is reported and those who set the fines are dirty too. THE ONLY BIT IMPORTANT TO ME IS THE FINES ARE NOT ENOUGH TO PROTECT US AS THEY KEEP DOING ALL THEY WANT AND PAYING THE FINE. SO SOMETHING NEEDS TO CHANGE! It may be the only change will be those who are already damaged will take less drugs at some point there will be a tipping point where there are more damaged than not damaged ... once we are really ill we can't take the drugs any longer... so pharma could power perform themselves into the poor house ... when the majority of people are too sick from their product to tolerate more product they are out of business. I am sure they will diversify by then. I wonder how long till we get to the tipping point... doubt we will be alive then but bet it is coming. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btdt Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 The good thing about these threads is they appear on internet searches. As such if a family member or close friend of Sophia is reading this i would like to hear from you and to know what she was taking from the doctor (if anything)...paroxetine? citalopram? or maybe she had asked the doctor if 'venlafaxine was right for her' A site called antidepaware is collecting details of iatrogenic deaths . Just like "antidepaware " nobody would find it if they were not looking and even if you are looking even wd sites not pharma funded can be hard to find it would be a fluke if any of the family were to chance to this page. slim odds I was seeking help for 8 months I looked for information about effexor I could not find a thing... the more sites there are the better chance info will be found... good reason to kill as many sites as you can if you are pharma. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btdt Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I went to the inquest page.. http://antidepaware.co.uk/inquest-reports/inquests-2011-2013/ and noticed Sara Carlin was not there http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2010/06/28/carlin_family_praises_suicide_inquest_results.html I am not sure the guidelines have been implemented... I doubt it. all talk no walking the walk WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btdt Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 I wonder why antidepaware is starting at such a late date here http://antidepaware.co.uk/homicides/. when there is a well respected site that has homicides dating back to 1988 the lady who started it has passed away I believe there is a story about her here on SA perhaps they are using only UK murders.. there are some at the link from the UK pass it on if you like ..http://antidepaware.co.uk/homicides/ my excuse for not doing it ...not good with computers and lazy WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nz11 Posted February 21, 2016 Author Share Posted February 21, 2016 btdt you could always email them and bring Calan to their attention. Id say they are so busy as you say just keeping track and following UK deaths. Wow look at all the deaths by hanging! and overdose! That is just insane! Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing. http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651 Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos. Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you Recovering paxil addict None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped." Dr Mosher. Me too! Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015 I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015 Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btdt Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 The one that freaks me out the most are the ones where people killed other people when they thought they were dreaming ... and asleep that freaks me out. It is tie actually the other one that freaks me out is testimony from the long ago hearings I sat and read the transcripts once... a lady came from France to the USA to be part of the FDA hearings... her son had killed a lady in a motel room with a steak knife then cut his own hand off with the knife. I should not have put that out in public maybe... but people need to know too... hard call.. hmmm it is already out there in the transcripts but most people are not going to read those transcripts... I read them when I was up all night every night for days and not in a good place it likely did not help me to know except if I had any intentions ever of going back on meds those couple of things really cured that idea. I could mail them Carlas story but I doubt I will .. in the old days I could not rest till I was in on every new paper article discussing about this and every wd site ... I had so many google alters to see any new information... I wrote letters ( not sure they made any sense but I wrote them... signed petitions on and on. It seems I have run out of steam or something "apathy" comes to mind. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btdt Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 The herding has been attempted for years and to my eye is finally completely successfully integrated into school systems and other systems in my country. I am sure it is the same in many other places. I too had a spell of hiding in the wardrobe I called it a closet .. when I had a brief run it with paxil between zoloft and effexor... I remember it well. The give away for me in all this is before meds I never was in complete despair never needed to hide any place closet or otherwise and never took the meds initially for a mental health reason... I took it for pain control only. After meds I had a wide array of symptoms dxs and drug treatment. What stand out from the above and point to possible drug induced despair to me is the 4am issue... this was such a prominent point for people in wd at pp there was a thread started by our currant admin with 4am in the title which has several pages of posts because 4am was such a common issue for those hurt by drugs. It became apparent to me at least that this was marking a certain variable that was more than just a mental health issue. 4am became one of the wd symptoms as much as brain zaps... these two things are hand in hand as being specific for wd in my mind. The 4am could be a time for waking or a time one could finally sleep but 4am remained a common thread. Getting rid of pp and other sites like the effexoractivist and the effexortopix site would certainly limit the knowledge... as I have said before I will say again... there are tons of scientific studies not favourable to ssri drugs that are no longer available online this is not an accident I am sure. Where else would you learn the small ins and out about wd like the 4am wake up call but a wd site... hitting on something like that is rare... rare and gone. I do wonder if this site will last as should it fallow the way of the other sites it would be the 5th wd site I have been part of that disappeared. Even the bits that can be found of those sites on way back seem to have been scrubbed of links and actual cut and paste articles posted to them. I know as I have tried a few times to find things ... I am self taught and older on the computer and not that good so it could be me in part. As this melds into society over the decades without any notice long after we have been trying to have it noticed regardless of how much noise we make it is obvious all of this is being wilfully ignored for a bigger reason... we are at cross objective with those who make the rules ... it is not truth or care and healing that is running this show. It is easy to think profit is the prize but the longer it goes on with all the global implications I have began to suspect there may be more sinister reasons for the neglect. Should these drugs be marketed for political reasons they could obviously form a world to the liking of the those in the know. If you wanted competition ..a person or family or group destroyed drugging them for perceived sadness shyness... ect you pick would surely be a way to reach that objective. Want the 99% to shut up and be quiet... drug them they will be too sick to cause a fuss. I watched this show tonight I have seen it before and thought I posted a link on SA in the past but I don't see it today. It points out how all this is done and I offer it here tho I plan on putting on its own too. Once we understand the bigger picture and the process of how this all works together it gives us one more reason to be up at 4am... worry. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4ou9rOssPg I may as well keep them together... this is another video about how big business corrupt science to sell sell sell... this one is about sugar.... goes back years and years ... yes the FDA and scientists are in it too... This one is about chemicals but is different... http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/11355-tilt-includes-fibro-and-multiple-chemical-sensitivity/?hl=tilt WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nz11 Posted March 5, 2016 Author Share Posted March 5, 2016 Another article in the nz herald 5 march regarding Sophia Hawthorne. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11600345 Father says regarding people seeking help, "Take them to a psychiatrist who knows how to deal with this.' Raymond is the father. I would like to tell you Raymond that taking someone to a psychiatrist is one of the most dangerous things you could ever do for them. These are not my words (although i had already come to this conclusion myself) these are the words of P Gotzsche 2015, and Peter Breggin 1991. See Breggin Toxic psychiatry page 176. "Going to a psychiatrist has become one of the most dangerous actions a person can take" See Gotzsche "It is unsafe for people who suffer something that could be treated with an ssri to see a psychiatrist". Deadly psychiatry and organised denial. I would love to know if Sophias death was an iatrogenic one. Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing. http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651 Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos. Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you Recovering paxil addict None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped." Dr Mosher. Me too! Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015 I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015 Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compsports Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Another article in the nz herald 5 march regarding Sophia Hawthorne. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11600345 Father says regarding people seeking help, "Take them to a psychiatrist who knows how to deal with this.' Raymond is the father. I would like to tell you Raymond that taking someone to a psychiatrist is one of the most dangerous things you could ever do for them. These are not my words (although i had already come to this conclusion myself) these are the words of P Gotzsche 2015, and Peter Breggin 1991. See Breggin Toxic psychiatry page 176. "Going to a psychiatrist has become one of the most dangerous actions a person can take" See Gotzsche "It is unsafe for people who suffer something that could be treated with an ssri to see a psychiatrist". Deadly psychiatry and organised denial. I would love to know if Sophias death was an iatrogenic one. You are so right NZ11. God, as one who worries that I have suffered long term iatrogenic damage from psych meds, I wouldn't advise my worse enemy to go see a psychiatrist. It definitely sounds like the death was iatrogenic but of course, we will probably never know. Drug cocktail 1995 - 2010 Started taper of Adderall, Wellbutrin XL, Remeron, and Doxepin in 2006 Finished taper on June 10, 2010 Temazepam on a PRN basis approximately twice a month - 2014 to 2016 Beginning in 2017 - Consumption increased to about two times per week April 2017 - Increased to taking it full time for insomnia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nz11 Posted March 6, 2016 Author Share Posted March 6, 2016 Thanks for taking the time to read and post comsports. Yes it has all the signs of an iatrogenic psychotropic drug death. imo Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing. http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651 Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos. Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you Recovering paxil addict None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped." Dr Mosher. Me too! Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015 I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015 Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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