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This is old (2008) but new to me... interesting that this may back up what Healy writes in his book that he was fired for a speech about the dangers of antidepressants,, .. that has been denied by those who fired him.. in his book he did not say who fired him.. does this prove Healy right I can't say but it looks like somebody thinks so... 
 
I only know what I found in his book and bits here and very little about the court case.. Healy sued... and won  but it all looked like it could be a contract issue... who knows.

From Aubrey Blumsohn's Scientific Misconduct Blog, 7/09/2008

"We promise to be honest" at the University of Toronto - is it enough?

 

The biggest problem in scientific ethics is the failure to speak. It is the disconnect between perfectly good codes and the application of those codes to actual troubling incidents. It is the fact that codes are toothless. UofT already has perfectly good codes, procedures and rules of conduct.

That is not to say that Karen Davis and Ori Rotstein [initiators of the oath] are not well intentioned. However, given the problems at Toronto one has to ask where they were when they should have spoken? When they cite examples, why do they not cite incidents rather closer to home?

 

A Google search for "Karen Davis and Gideon Koren", "Karen Davis and Nancy Olivieri", "Karen Davis and David Healy", "Ori Rotstein  and Gideon Koren", "Ori Rotstein and Nancy Olivieri", "Ori Rotstein and David Healy" yields nothing of any relevance to their [Davis and Rotstein's] involvement in practical ethics.

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WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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and further more...

 

access to data

http://canadafreepress.com/article/its-shameful

"In a phone interview, Dr. Healy summed up matters thusly: “This isn’t a paper about an antidepressant being given to kids. This is a paper about access to data, and in the absence of access to data you have to assume that industry’s mode of operation in this trial is the standard industry approach towards harms, and that it applies to all drugs, for all indications, for all age groups, and at this point in time we will be concluding you cannot trust the academic literature, you cannot trust the clinical study reports, and you can’t trust the FDA. The only way forward from here is demand access to individual patient-level data.”

 

Story starts here:

Series:
Part 1: “I tried killing myself thirty times”
Part 2: “Remarkable efficacy and safety”
Part 3: “An effective drug treatment”
Part 4: The Ghost Writer
Part 5: It’s shameful”

By Patrick D Hahn  October 6, 2015

 

Note: More discussion about the Paxil Study 329 here: In case you missed it...Paxil 3 study 329 and suicide

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WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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