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Psychiatrist calling for assisted suicide for treatment resistant depression

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mammaP

I came across this document by a psychiatrist who was promoting assisted suicide, and saying that he would assist in extreme cases.

 

Making people sick with drugs then wanting to end their torment instead of looking at the very drugs that prescribe.

 

ELA330 End of Life Assistance (Scotland) Bill Dr Kenneth Mitchell I am a Scottish doctor (consultant psychiatrist) and strongly support this bill. I have seen innumerable patients (and three members of my family) suffering terribly at the end of their lives, some suffering dreadfully for 2 – 3 years or longer. This suffering has not been reduced by medical intervention or palliative care and the suffering has continued to destroy any quality of life or human dignity. The types of illnesses in which I have seen this terrible suffering, include late dementia, terminal breast cancer, multiple sclerosis, or the tortured agitation and anguish of severe treatment-resistant depression, severe treatmentresistant psychotic illnesses and severe treatment-resistant bipolar disorder. In many cases I have seen, no amount of palliative care would resolve the loss of peace of mind, dignity, hope and humanity that some of these poor people already experience. Palliative care can often greatly help pain relief, but there are many other forms of terrible suffering that are unrelated to pain and that cannot be relieved medically or by any form of social support or service. For example, my aunt’s multiple sclerosis resulted in her losing all power to all muscles for many months so that she was immobile and could not raise her head to watch TV, eat or make eye contact with others, and her head dangled onto her chest at all times. She died of pressure sores in this desperate condition. It would be a sign of a civilised society to allow such patients to die by physician-assisted suicide, and I would be privileged to be involved in legally ending the life of those tortured souls where that was their request either at the time (if they have capacity) or in a witnessed advance statement (where they do not have capacity) and where suitable and effective stringent controls and safeguards are in place. Dr Kenneth Mitchell 3 May 2010

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mammaP

Many here are recovering from the horrendous symptoms that he is describing which have been caused by the toxic drugs they prescribe. If this was passed these lives could have been ended and they are now recovered. I was a tortured soul with treatment resistant depression, severe bi polar and extreme agitation!

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Shep

Many here are recovering from the horrendous symptoms that he is describing which have been caused by the toxic drugs they prescribe. If this was passed these lives could have been ended and they are now recovered. I was a tortured soul with treatment resistant depression, severe bi polar and extreme agitation!

 

 

Same here, mammaP.  I was forced onto drugs at 17 and was used as a lab rat for 30 years. And now they're doing that to much younger kids. 

 

And my withdrawal made me a lot more sick mentally than I was BEFORE treatment. So after the doctors screw up, now they want to completely end it for us.

 

I'm so glad I found this website and not this Kenneth Mitchell character.  It's supposed to be "first do no harm".   :angry:

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btdt

Doctor assisted death or suicide is being debated in Canada just now.. people are always on tv arguing there sides... I find it difficult to watch. 

It would be an easy way for doctors to hide the mistakes is one thing I have thought... sorry I am jaded and I can't be anything but me. 

I glad this was not a law affecting either of you and that your both with us today. 

peace 

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mammaP

I would have been relieved and would have gone for it, I was suffering so badly it would have been a way out, all reasoning had left me. :( 

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btdt

I know Mamma trying to tell a person in the thick of it that it will end is a waste of breath ... unless you can end it that second it does not count.  I fear the direction the world is taking. 

I glad your still with us How do we convince others I don't know it seems like such a lot of work just to get well and try to keep ok... but who else is going to tell them... I do know it is beyond me. I hope the law doesn't pass.

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Area1255

Yeah that doesn't seem to be just one country and I don't agree with it.

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Farout

It was rejected from the outset.  There is absolutely no chance of anything like that getting up.

 

Dr Martin is clearly deluded, with sociopathic and narcissistic tendencies.  Interesting that he doesn't appear to have any diagnosis.

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btdt

There was a show on tv the other day about this a coalition has started up to fight it One thing they noted that the name has changed from Assisted Suicide to Doctor Assisted Death... 

 

And they said since it would be considered a health treatment they can't stop any person from requesting a health treatment... 

 

it is all very creepy

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mammaP

It happens........ child abuse victims are helped to commit suicide, because their PTSD is incurable. 

 

I felt physically sick when I read this article. 

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/sex-abuse-victim-with-incurable-ptst-allowed-to-die-by-lethal-injection_uk_57344013e4b0f0f53e35bf43?icid=maing-grid7%7Cuk%7Cdl3%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D458909

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Farout

I've been trying all day, but I can't possibly reply to that article without swearing.

 

Some psychiatrists have reached a new level of arrogant.

 

I knew euthanasia was legal in the Netherlands but I had know idea it had become so all encompassing.

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btdt

From Mamma's link

 

"Depending on the circumstances, euthanasia is regarded as either manslaughter or murder and is punishable by law with a maximum penalty of up to life imprisonment."

 

That is in England.. so far. 

 

But to drug a person to the point where no other drug will help them....  and no peace and no reasonable escape from psychiatric torture is ok... and we pay them to do it... give me a  break. I wonder at the ptsd dx as that is my dx... the last one while I was on drugs.... 

 

"you cannot accurately dx any person who is drugged or in wd"

 

Seems a bit like sweeping the mistakes under the carpet as they don't know what else to do with them certainly can't invest years of support and care to get them thru wd especially protracted wd. bah so glad I am done with that system 

 

"“It does reinforce why there was such a strong majority in the UK parliament against euthanasia because we voted from the principle of life being sacred and not giving up hope”.

 

The nazi's some on meth according to things I am learning....  were so evil and the west was so much better... and then this makes me sick too. 

 

maybe the whole world is on meth now... 

 

get that carpet off my head so I can breath a little will ya

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Barbarannamated

I agree completely with his views for chronic illnesses, pain, and suffering with no end or treatment available.  Why is it ok in some people's minds that a person with a terminal illness with less than 6 months to live can be assisted, yet a person like myself, suffering with physical pain, weakness, and isolation, WITH NO PROGNOSIS FOR IMPROVEMENT, must just deal with it.  In addition, pain management has become nearly impossible.  I'm 80#, don't have any appetite, eating creates more pain, I can't take care of myself yet can't get help.  I have difficulty standing up due to labile BP and HR which nobody has been able to figure out.  

 

I've been suffering since 1993 and only getting worse.  I have no family to take care of (or to help me).  

 

If I was somebody's pet, they'd be reported for animal neglect.  

 

Ironically, HUMANe euthanasia is reserved for animals.  

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Martina23

I would agree with terminal illnesses if the person wishes to die. In other cases there is always a chance that the illness goes better.

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Iatrogenesis

Absolutely, MammaP, these guys are murdering, maiming and ruining countless people, it's beyond outrageous. Now them dying of the drugs or committing suicide is not enough... You can't make this up.

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