Viper73: need help please on Paxil

[viper73]

Can anybody help please 

[viper73]

A little update, in April I cry around 4 to 6 times, 30 second each time. In may I cry around 2 time 30 second each time,  the Third time I force myself to cry it last around 30 second. In June I didn’t cry at all so far, but I feel depress, but sometimes I feel like crying but nothing come out.  I don’t know is it window and wave pattern or am I at the honeymoon phase,  I stop my Prozac 1.67mg around almost 4 weeks ago.

[viper73]

Anybody help please 

[Shep]

Viper, I've asked the other mods who are more familiar with Prozac to advise, but it's possible you may need to reinstate. 

 

Please don't do anything until a more Prozac-experienced moderator has a chance to weigh in. It will help if you can answer a few questions:

 

1. Do you have any Prozac left? 

 

2. You said on you stopped your Prozac at 1.67mg almost 4 weeks ago, but in this post on May 14 you said you were going down to 1.47mg. Did you go down to 1.47 mg and then updose to 1.67 mg before you stopped taking it altogether? It's important to know what your last dose was in case the other mods recommend a reinstatement. 

 

3. When you say "I have to stop taking Prozac because I have a lot of problems with it" - what symptoms did Prozac cause? 

[viper73]

Thank you Shep,

no I didn’t take 1.47mg, I just stop taking 1.67mg, because I have major brain fog, very depress, blurry vision, headache, and alots off other symptoms. Right now some of my symptoms all gone. But I still have depression, a little crying  spell and anxiety but no panic attack so far. The second last time I tapper I have worst major panic attack that why I went back on med. 

[viper73]

18 hours ago, viper73 said:

crying

 

18 hours ago, viper73 said:

A little update, in April I cry around 4 to 6 times, 30 second each time. In may I cry around 2 time 30 second each time,  the Third time I force myself to cry it last around 30 second. In June I didn’t cry at all so far, but I feel depress, but sometimes I feel like crying but nothing come out.  I don’t know is it window and wave pattern or am I at the honeymoon phase,  I stop my Prozac 1.67mg around almost 4 weeks ago.

Sorry in may I cry 5 times 30 second each time, but two years ago when I went to the hospital for 3 months I cry everyday sometimes I cry 2 to 5 times a day for 2 min to 25 min

[Altostrata]

How are you sleeping?

 

Do you have ideas that make you cry or are you having spontaneous weeping spells out of nowhere?

[viper73]

Hello Altostrata,

 I am sleeping around 6 to 8 hours a day, I wake up around 3 to 6 times a day, but I fall back to sleep within 2 to 5 minuets. 

 

I cry for no reason. I don’t know if I am in withdrawal, or in a window and wave or my symptoms are getting better. Because two years ago when I quit Paxil I cry for 3 months, each month I cry average 400mins, but in 2018, April, and May I cry total around 12 times (total mins around 10 mins for the two months) in June I force myself to cry, the crying last only 30 seconds. 

[Altostrata]

Stop forcing yourself to cry.

 

It looks to me like you are very gradually recovering from going off Prozac. Please try to stop fixating on your symptoms.

 

Please update your signature.

 

While you heal, you will want to protect your sleep. Read this

 

Tips to help sleep -- so many of us have that awful withdrawal insomnia

 

What is the sleep cycle?

 

TV or computer use in evening can disrupt sleep: Bright light signals the brain that it's daytime

[viper73]

Thx Altostrata,

 

i forgot to add, sometimes when I wake up 4 to 8 times a nite, some days I stay up for 1 to 3hrs before I fall back to sleep. 

 

[viper73]

Hi a little update, I have stop Prozac 1.67mg about 9 weeks ago, I hardly cry now, my last time I cry was on June 20, but today I have a bad episode feel like I want to die but it’s only last a couple seconds and it disappeared. I don’t know if it a wave I having. But I feel depressed for a couple of days now. I just hope it is a wave I having.

[Altostrata]

How did you taper Prozac?

 

Did you have any withdrawal symptoms after you went off it completely, two months ago?

[viper73]

I was tapering for 10 months starting at 10mg, I was tapering .5mg every two weeks when I get down to 4mg I start to tapering 10% every two weeks, I got down to 1.67mg that when I jump off. When I tapering my symptoms was anger, depression, headache, blur vision, confusion, panic attack, anxiety, no crying,  around the 8 months mark I start to cry so I take 5htp 100mg for 11 days it didn’t work so I quit the 5htp. around the 9 months mark i take cbd oil for 6 days 1 to 2 drop per day and than I have one of the worst episode of crying and I feel like Suicide, it was the worst symptoms I have in my life it last it for 3 minuets. So that why I quit the cbd oil and two weeks after that I jump off of Prozac 1.67mg. For the 9 weeks I am off Prozac I feel like depress and I cry once in awhile. Than I am fine for a few weeks.

[Altostrata]

Why did you choose to stop at 1.67mg? Please update your signature.

 

Many people do better with fish oil and magnesium supplements, see
http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/36-king-of-supplements-omega-3-fatty-acids-fish-oil/

http://survivingantidepressants.org/topic/15483-magnesium-natures-calcium-channel-blocker/

 

A lot of people find them helpful. Try a little bit of one at a time to see how it affects you.

 

[viper73]

Around 8 months tapering I take 5HTP 100mg for 11 days and it didn't work and Around 9 and half month of tapering I start to take CBD Oil 1 to 3 drop per day and on the 6th day into my CBD Oil I have the worst Depression and Crying ever. I feel so Suicidal it last around 3 to 5 mins. So I stop the CBD Oil. But I still take the Prozac 1.67mg for another week. I feel no better so I decide to quit the Prozac 1.67mg. But for the 9 weeks I am of the Prozac, My depression is lessen and crying is lessen too and also my Suicidal feeling is not there anymore. but 4 days ago I have a bad episode of Depression and suicidal thought but it only last around 20 seconds and it disappear but I still feel depress so I dont know is it a wave. I also take fish oil 1000mg, magnesium 100mg, Vitamin C 1000mg, and in the winter I take Vitamin D 2000IU
 

[viper73]

Can someone help me out please,

 

My first 5 weeks off of Prozac at 1.67mg my withdraw symptoms were bad. After 5- 7 weeks,  my symptoms were not that bad, like a window. It lasted about 2 to 3 weeks. At about 9 weeks I feel like a wave just started again. It is not as strong as before. I’ve been feeling like this for about  8 days now.

[viper73]

Is it a good idea to see a Psychologist

[viper73]

Hi little update,

this is my second window I am having it’s been 2 to 3 weeks likes this so far, I hope it will last a long time. 3 more days will be my 3 month off of Prozac 1.67mg

[Shep]

I'm glad to read you're doing so well, Viper. Please let us know how you're feeling over the coming days / weeks. I hope the window lasts. 

[viper73]

I think my widow are closing, I having depression agian for a couple of days, feel like crying but this wave is not as intense. Maybe I have this wave because my wife and kids went on vacation for the whole week and I am home alone. They went on vacation today. 

 

-Came of off paxil 2 years ago, depression,  insomnia, very bad thought, panic attack, and a lot of symptoms and crying was the worst, I cry for 3 months Straight. In one month I cry around 400mins. 

 

-My second depression episode and my crying started in April this year (April 1 to May 20) I cry around 8 minuets total. Prozac 1.85mg to 1.67mg.

 

-stop the Prozac  (may 20 to June 30) I cry total of 4mins.

 

-I have my first window lasted for 2 to 3 weeks

 

-July 10 to August 5 I cry for around 2 mins i think. 

 

-I have my second window lasted for 2 to 3 weeks. 

 

-right now I think I in a wave again for 3 days now, depression feel like crying. But not that intense.

 

[viper73]

A little update, I have my 3rd window after I jump off of Prozac 1.67mg on May 20 2018, my 3rd window lasted around 2 and a half weeks (August 25 to September 13). 

September 14 I just got hit by my wave I just have a episode of depression it go of and on the whole day. Today the same depression off and on. But no crying. But the depression is not that intense. It is sound like I am improving a little.

[Shep]

Great update, Viper. I hope the improvements continue. 

[viper73]

Thank you Shep, I hope we all improve.

[Carmie]

On 9/16/2018 at 5:52 AM, viper73 said:

A little update, I have my 3rd window after I jump off of Prozac 1.67mg on May 20 2018, my 3rd window lasted around 2 and a half weeks (August 25 to September 13). 

September 14 I just got hit by my wave I just have a episode of depression it go of and on the whole day. Today the same depression off and on. But no crying. But the depression is not that intense. It is sound like I am improving a little.

 

Hi Viper, 

 

What great news that you had a window for two and a half weeks. Looks like your brain is working really hard to repair itself. 

 

Wishing you many more windows💚

[viper73]

A little update,

I got hit with a bad wave.  I got panic attack 2 times (September 14 to 28) and I got insomnia. I didn't sleep the whole day today. I didn't have these two symptoms for a least 15 months., but the panic attack intensity is like 5 out of 10.  Also,  I have bad thoughts, anxiety, depression and couples other symptoms. I don't know if I am back to square one.

[ChessieCat]

10 hours ago, viper73 said:

I don't know if I am back to square one.

 

Sometimes it can feel like we are.  But your brain is busy trying to regain homeostasis or factory settings.  This might help:

 

On 12/27/2015 at 6:37 AM, Altostrata said:

 

Basically- you have a building where the MAJOR steel structures are [...] to be rebuilt at different times - ALL while people are coming and going in the building and attempting to work.

It would be like if the World Trade Center Towers hadn't completely fallen - but had crumbled inside in different places.. Imagine if you were [...] to rebuild the tower - WHILE people were coming and going and [...] to work in the building!  You'd have to set up a temporary elevator - but when you needed to fix part of that area, you'd have to tear down that elevator and set up a temporary elevator somewhere else. And so on. You'd have to build, work around, then tear down, then build again, then work around, then build... ALL while people are coming and going, ALL while the furniture is being replaced, ALL while the walls are getting repainted... ALL while [...] is going on INSIDE the building. No doubt it would be chaotic. That is EXACTLY what is happening with windows and waves.  The windows are where the body has "got it right" for a day or so - but then the building shifts and the brain works on something else - and it's chaos again while another temporary pathway is set up to reroute function until repairs are made. 

 

 

[viper73]

Hi,

this is my 7 month update, I have a cold for 5 weeks, I feel depress and tired all time. And I have 1 or 2 crying spell that last only 20 seconds and have bad thoughts comes and goes. But overall I doing a little better. I know 7 months is early in withdrawal, I hope I can turn the corner in 3 to 5 months. I am just scared of the depression and crying. I collect a lot of success stories from benzo buddies and surviving antipressant sites. I read them everyday to help me push though this feeling.  On benzo buddies site there are around 1500 success stories and around 2700 benzo free celebrations so total 4200 success stories and on surviving antipressant site we have around 100 success stories. 

[viper73]

Is it normal to have bad symptoms for like 3 to 5 weeks and then hardly any symptoms for like 3 weeks. It’s been like this for 7 months. I read most success stories that they heal in 1 years to a couple of years.

[bhasski]

3 hours ago, viper73 said:

Is it normal to have bad symptoms for like 3 to 5 weeks and then hardly any symptoms for like 3 weeks. It’s been like this for 7 months. I read most success stories that they heal in 1 years to a couple of years.

 

Its great you are experiencing symptoms free time. 

Glad and wish it gets more better soon.

 

Bhasski

[ChessieCat]

Healing isn't linear:  Windows and Waves Pattern of Stabilization

 

Also see:  are-we-there-yet-how-long-is-withdrawal-going-to-take

 

The fact that you have been having times with barely any symptoms is a good sign of healing happening.

[viper73]

Thank you for the help from the bottom of my heart

[ChessieCat]

😊 You're very welcome.

[viper73]

Hi, a little update 

This is my one year off of antidepressants, 

on January 01 I quit Omega 3 but on January 24 I have a suicidal feelings that last two days and it went away, on Feb 14 I did TCDS for 5 days, I don’t know if it did anything so I decided to stop using it. On March 01 I started to gamble and I was feeling fine, but around 2 weeks ago I got a fever , so I decided to quit gambling and stop my vitamins C, D and magnesium at the same time. So right now I feel very depressed. I don’t know which one is causing me to be depressed. Is it the fever, quitting the vitamins or quit gambling?  Or is it that I need to try TDSC again? Should just wait it out?

[ChessieCat]

If it was me, I'd be restarting the magnesium, Vit C and Vit D straight away.  You've only been off them 2 weeks, or possibly less.  You could then restart the Omega 3 after a few weeks.

 

I think it would also be a good idea to do some relaxation/deep breathing throughout the day (3 or 4 times).  Set a reminder.  This helps to calm the nervous system.

 

Gambling can give you a buzz, and when you stop that feeling goes, which is how some people end up becoming addicted to gambling.  Gambling can also be stressful on your nervous system.

 

https://www.health.harvard.edu/newsletter_article/anxiety-and-gambling

 

Q:  Are you drinking alcohol and/or beverages containing caffeine?

 

Stopping the gambling, alcohol and caffeine and making sure you have a healthy diet with some light exercise and relaxation/breathing exercises all seem like sensible things to do.  It would be a good idea to find alternative things to do so that you aren't tempted to return to gambling.

 

Please read this post by BrassMonkey:  It doesn’t end at “0”

[viper73]

Thx, ChessieCat

Some peoples tell me to stop The Vitamins c and d for one month to reset, and start take them again. I don’t drink alcohol. I read on google that when you quit gambling you go through withdrawals for around one month, so maybe The fever, quitting the vitamins and gambling that give me the depression. I just hope this shall pass soon, I still have 2 to 3 weeks before I start my vitamins again.

[ChessieCat]

1 hour ago, viper73 said:

I still have 2 to 3 weeks before I start my vitamins again.

 

It would be a good idea to start them one at a time, and start with a low dose and build up.