Boomer Posted July 21, 2016 Author Share Posted July 21, 2016 Boomer, so glad you popped in to let us know how things are. I've been thinking of you both from time to time, and hoping you were getting through things okay. I can't imagine how awful that whole process was, and I'm relieved you have your man back home again. Time now to rest and recover, and to build the both of you up. Lots of gentleness and care for each of you. Hugs, Karen Thanks Karen Effexor Brand changed over to Enlafax XR sometime during the first three months of 2017. Reduced to 12.5mg Olanzapine, last reduction 25/4/17 on advice from PDoc to reduce the severe Akathesia, Panick Attacks and other disabling symptoms. 7/4/17 Propronolol @ 40mg x 3 times per day increasing as required. 160mg Slow Release x 3 times per day for disabling Panic Attacks. 15/5/17 medication mix up, somewhere prior Mirtazapine increased to 60mg per day. PDoc concerned of Seratonin Syndrome reduced to 30mg per day. 21/6/17 Effexor 37.5mg reduced. 22/8/17 Mirtazapine reduced 15mg. 14/9/17 Developed GERD added 40mg Omeprazole x 1, 200mg x1 Ferrous Fumarate, 17/9/17 Propranolol dosage between 320mg to 400mg 3 to 4x per every second day for disabling Panic Attacks. 17/9/17 Current Medication: 12.5mg Olanzapine, 187.5mg Enlafax XR, 15mg Mirtazpine, Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3 pd, Propranolol 320mg to 400mg x 3 or 4 x perday. 40mg Omeprazole x 1, 200mg x 1 Ferrous Fumarate 29/9/17 Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3pd, Propranolol 120mg x 3 pd = 840mg per day. 9/10/17 Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3 per day, Propranolol 80mg x 3 per day = 720mg per day. Increased 10/9/17 Propranolol 840mg per day. 14/10/17 Reduced Mirtazapine to13.5mg 18/10/17 Removed Mirtazpine 13.5mg 23/10/17 Reducing Propranolol by 10mg every second day down to 400mg per day. 13/12/17 Now at 400mg Propranolol per day - holding. 20/12/17 Reduced Olanzapine by 10% to 11.25mg. 21/1/18: Reduced Olanzapine by .625mg Reducing Propranolol by 10mg per week. 8/3/18 Reduced Olanzapine by .625mg . 6/4/18 Reduced .625mg Olanzapine. 4/5/18 Reduced .625 Olanzapine 31/5/18 Changed from Propranolol 160 SR to Propranolol 160. 8/6/18 Morning Olanzapine changed to wafer and reduced by .10mg. 15/6/18 Reduced Olanzapine by .10mg per week Current Medication: 8.345mg Olanzapine; 187.50 Enlafax SR; Propranolol 55mg x 4 per day. Minimum 30mins exercise per day. Fortisip x 2 per day. 6/7/18 Admitted to Hospital with Chronic Aspiration Pneumonia - medications reduced. 8/11/18 Effexor XR 75mg morning and 37.5mg evening, Madopar Rapid 62.5mg x 4 per day. Link to comment
Boomer Posted July 21, 2016 Author Share Posted July 21, 2016 I just want to provide an update. My husband is doing well but he said he feels like the drugs are making him zombie like and his body feels heavy and tired. He said it feels like the Olanzapine is causing this. He wondered if he could reduce the Olanzapine slowly down to 10mg so he is not so drugged up but will continue to stay on 10mg as it has increased his appetite. Advice please? Effexor Brand changed over to Enlafax XR sometime during the first three months of 2017. Reduced to 12.5mg Olanzapine, last reduction 25/4/17 on advice from PDoc to reduce the severe Akathesia, Panick Attacks and other disabling symptoms. 7/4/17 Propronolol @ 40mg x 3 times per day increasing as required. 160mg Slow Release x 3 times per day for disabling Panic Attacks. 15/5/17 medication mix up, somewhere prior Mirtazapine increased to 60mg per day. PDoc concerned of Seratonin Syndrome reduced to 30mg per day. 21/6/17 Effexor 37.5mg reduced. 22/8/17 Mirtazapine reduced 15mg. 14/9/17 Developed GERD added 40mg Omeprazole x 1, 200mg x1 Ferrous Fumarate, 17/9/17 Propranolol dosage between 320mg to 400mg 3 to 4x per every second day for disabling Panic Attacks. 17/9/17 Current Medication: 12.5mg Olanzapine, 187.5mg Enlafax XR, 15mg Mirtazpine, Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3 pd, Propranolol 320mg to 400mg x 3 or 4 x perday. 40mg Omeprazole x 1, 200mg x 1 Ferrous Fumarate 29/9/17 Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3pd, Propranolol 120mg x 3 pd = 840mg per day. 9/10/17 Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3 per day, Propranolol 80mg x 3 per day = 720mg per day. Increased 10/9/17 Propranolol 840mg per day. 14/10/17 Reduced Mirtazapine to13.5mg 18/10/17 Removed Mirtazpine 13.5mg 23/10/17 Reducing Propranolol by 10mg every second day down to 400mg per day. 13/12/17 Now at 400mg Propranolol per day - holding. 20/12/17 Reduced Olanzapine by 10% to 11.25mg. 21/1/18: Reduced Olanzapine by .625mg Reducing Propranolol by 10mg per week. 8/3/18 Reduced Olanzapine by .625mg . 6/4/18 Reduced .625mg Olanzapine. 4/5/18 Reduced .625 Olanzapine 31/5/18 Changed from Propranolol 160 SR to Propranolol 160. 8/6/18 Morning Olanzapine changed to wafer and reduced by .10mg. 15/6/18 Reduced Olanzapine by .10mg per week Current Medication: 8.345mg Olanzapine; 187.50 Enlafax SR; Propranolol 55mg x 4 per day. Minimum 30mins exercise per day. Fortisip x 2 per day. 6/7/18 Admitted to Hospital with Chronic Aspiration Pneumonia - medications reduced. 8/11/18 Effexor XR 75mg morning and 37.5mg evening, Madopar Rapid 62.5mg x 4 per day. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus KarenB Posted July 22, 2016 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 22, 2016 How long has he been on the 20mg olanzapine? My initial thought is that further stabilising would be better, before making any further moves. He's been through so much lately. Not that you need anybody to tell you that . 2010 Fluoxetine 20mg. 2011 Escitalopram 20mg. 2013 Tapered badly and destabilised CNS. Effexor 150mg. 2015 Begin using info at SurvivingAntidepressants. Cut 10% - bad w/d 2 months, held 1 month. Micro-tapering: four weekly 0.4% cuts, hold 4 weeks (struggling with symptoms). 8 month hold. 2017 Micro-tapering: four weekly 1% cuts, hold 4 weeks (symptoms almost non-existent). 2020 Still micro-tapering. Just over 2/3 of the way off effexor. Minimal symptoms, - and sleeping well. Supplements: Fish oil, vitamin C, iron, oat-straw tea, nettle tea. 2023 December - Now on 5 micro-beads Effexor. Minimal symptoms but much more time needed between drops. Symptoms begin to increase. 2024 April - Updosed to 6 microbeads - immediate increase in symptoms for 4 days. Decreased to 5 microbeads. 'The possibility of renewal exists so long as life exists.' Dr Gabor Mate. Link to comment
Boomer Posted July 24, 2016 Author Share Posted July 24, 2016 How long has he been on the 20mg olanzapine? My initial thought is that further stabilising would be better, before making any further moves. He's been through so much lately. Not that you need anybody to tell you that . Hi Karen He has been on the 20mg of Olanzapine since the end of June or beginning of July. Thanks Anne Effexor Brand changed over to Enlafax XR sometime during the first three months of 2017. Reduced to 12.5mg Olanzapine, last reduction 25/4/17 on advice from PDoc to reduce the severe Akathesia, Panick Attacks and other disabling symptoms. 7/4/17 Propronolol @ 40mg x 3 times per day increasing as required. 160mg Slow Release x 3 times per day for disabling Panic Attacks. 15/5/17 medication mix up, somewhere prior Mirtazapine increased to 60mg per day. PDoc concerned of Seratonin Syndrome reduced to 30mg per day. 21/6/17 Effexor 37.5mg reduced. 22/8/17 Mirtazapine reduced 15mg. 14/9/17 Developed GERD added 40mg Omeprazole x 1, 200mg x1 Ferrous Fumarate, 17/9/17 Propranolol dosage between 320mg to 400mg 3 to 4x per every second day for disabling Panic Attacks. 17/9/17 Current Medication: 12.5mg Olanzapine, 187.5mg Enlafax XR, 15mg Mirtazpine, Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3 pd, Propranolol 320mg to 400mg x 3 or 4 x perday. 40mg Omeprazole x 1, 200mg x 1 Ferrous Fumarate 29/9/17 Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3pd, Propranolol 120mg x 3 pd = 840mg per day. 9/10/17 Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3 per day, Propranolol 80mg x 3 per day = 720mg per day. Increased 10/9/17 Propranolol 840mg per day. 14/10/17 Reduced Mirtazapine to13.5mg 18/10/17 Removed Mirtazpine 13.5mg 23/10/17 Reducing Propranolol by 10mg every second day down to 400mg per day. 13/12/17 Now at 400mg Propranolol per day - holding. 20/12/17 Reduced Olanzapine by 10% to 11.25mg. 21/1/18: Reduced Olanzapine by .625mg Reducing Propranolol by 10mg per week. 8/3/18 Reduced Olanzapine by .625mg . 6/4/18 Reduced .625mg Olanzapine. 4/5/18 Reduced .625 Olanzapine 31/5/18 Changed from Propranolol 160 SR to Propranolol 160. 8/6/18 Morning Olanzapine changed to wafer and reduced by .10mg. 15/6/18 Reduced Olanzapine by .10mg per week Current Medication: 8.345mg Olanzapine; 187.50 Enlafax SR; Propranolol 55mg x 4 per day. Minimum 30mins exercise per day. Fortisip x 2 per day. 6/7/18 Admitted to Hospital with Chronic Aspiration Pneumonia - medications reduced. 8/11/18 Effexor XR 75mg morning and 37.5mg evening, Madopar Rapid 62.5mg x 4 per day. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus KarenB Posted July 24, 2016 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 24, 2016 Yeah, I'd hold out for further stabilising if at all possible. You'll know better than me, being right there - your intuition is probably pretty good after all you guys have been through lately. I hope you are shoring up a little. Karen x 2010 Fluoxetine 20mg. 2011 Escitalopram 20mg. 2013 Tapered badly and destabilised CNS. Effexor 150mg. 2015 Begin using info at SurvivingAntidepressants. Cut 10% - bad w/d 2 months, held 1 month. Micro-tapering: four weekly 0.4% cuts, hold 4 weeks (struggling with symptoms). 8 month hold. 2017 Micro-tapering: four weekly 1% cuts, hold 4 weeks (symptoms almost non-existent). 2020 Still micro-tapering. Just over 2/3 of the way off effexor. Minimal symptoms, - and sleeping well. Supplements: Fish oil, vitamin C, iron, oat-straw tea, nettle tea. 2023 December - Now on 5 micro-beads Effexor. Minimal symptoms but much more time needed between drops. Symptoms begin to increase. 2024 April - Updosed to 6 microbeads - immediate increase in symptoms for 4 days. Decreased to 5 microbeads. 'The possibility of renewal exists so long as life exists.' Dr Gabor Mate. Link to comment
nz11 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Sorry you are caught between a rock and a hard place Boomer. Is your husband doing a bit better now. Maybe he wants to take over driving the sa intro thread? Hope everything is ok. nz11 Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing. http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651 Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos. Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you Recovering paxil addict None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped." Dr Mosher. Me too! Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015 I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015 Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017 Link to comment
Boomer Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 Sorry you are caught between a rock and a hard place Boomer. Is your husband doing a bit better now. Maybe he wants to take over driving the sa intro thread? Hope everything is ok. nz11 Hello NZ11 - Yes husband has stabilised and has returned to limited part time work. The Olanzapine is making him very tired although he manages to get through the day but sleeps from 9pm until 8am even later if not woken. He is pushing through and exercising. His appetite is huge and he has gained 6kg in a month (which is a good thing at the present). The Psych doc does not like Olanzapine and wants to reduce him slowly in a couple of weeks time. He wanted hubby to stablise before doing anything. I will research tapering Olanzapine so we do not have the same problems as last time. perhaps you could provide a link. Thanks. Effexor Brand changed over to Enlafax XR sometime during the first three months of 2017. Reduced to 12.5mg Olanzapine, last reduction 25/4/17 on advice from PDoc to reduce the severe Akathesia, Panick Attacks and other disabling symptoms. 7/4/17 Propronolol @ 40mg x 3 times per day increasing as required. 160mg Slow Release x 3 times per day for disabling Panic Attacks. 15/5/17 medication mix up, somewhere prior Mirtazapine increased to 60mg per day. PDoc concerned of Seratonin Syndrome reduced to 30mg per day. 21/6/17 Effexor 37.5mg reduced. 22/8/17 Mirtazapine reduced 15mg. 14/9/17 Developed GERD added 40mg Omeprazole x 1, 200mg x1 Ferrous Fumarate, 17/9/17 Propranolol dosage between 320mg to 400mg 3 to 4x per every second day for disabling Panic Attacks. 17/9/17 Current Medication: 12.5mg Olanzapine, 187.5mg Enlafax XR, 15mg Mirtazpine, Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3 pd, Propranolol 320mg to 400mg x 3 or 4 x perday. 40mg Omeprazole x 1, 200mg x 1 Ferrous Fumarate 29/9/17 Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3pd, Propranolol 120mg x 3 pd = 840mg per day. 9/10/17 Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3 per day, Propranolol 80mg x 3 per day = 720mg per day. Increased 10/9/17 Propranolol 840mg per day. 14/10/17 Reduced Mirtazapine to13.5mg 18/10/17 Removed Mirtazpine 13.5mg 23/10/17 Reducing Propranolol by 10mg every second day down to 400mg per day. 13/12/17 Now at 400mg Propranolol per day - holding. 20/12/17 Reduced Olanzapine by 10% to 11.25mg. 21/1/18: Reduced Olanzapine by .625mg Reducing Propranolol by 10mg per week. 8/3/18 Reduced Olanzapine by .625mg . 6/4/18 Reduced .625mg Olanzapine. 4/5/18 Reduced .625 Olanzapine 31/5/18 Changed from Propranolol 160 SR to Propranolol 160. 8/6/18 Morning Olanzapine changed to wafer and reduced by .10mg. 15/6/18 Reduced Olanzapine by .10mg per week Current Medication: 8.345mg Olanzapine; 187.50 Enlafax SR; Propranolol 55mg x 4 per day. Minimum 30mins exercise per day. Fortisip x 2 per day. 6/7/18 Admitted to Hospital with Chronic Aspiration Pneumonia - medications reduced. 8/11/18 Effexor XR 75mg morning and 37.5mg evening, Madopar Rapid 62.5mg x 4 per day. Link to comment
nz11 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Psych doc does not like Olanzapine and wants to reduce him slowly in a couple of weeks time. Did he define 'slowly' ? Heres the link Tips for tapering off olanzapine (Zyprexa) Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing. http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651 Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos. Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you Recovering paxil addict None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped." Dr Mosher. Me too! Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015 I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015 Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017 Link to comment
Boomer Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 Psych doc does not like Olanzapine and wants to reduce him slowly in a couple of weeks time. Did he define 'slowly' ? Heres the link Tips for tapering off olanzapine (Zyprexa) re Psych doc tapering he said very slowly. Will define that in the next meeting. Thanks for link. Effexor Brand changed over to Enlafax XR sometime during the first three months of 2017. Reduced to 12.5mg Olanzapine, last reduction 25/4/17 on advice from PDoc to reduce the severe Akathesia, Panick Attacks and other disabling symptoms. 7/4/17 Propronolol @ 40mg x 3 times per day increasing as required. 160mg Slow Release x 3 times per day for disabling Panic Attacks. 15/5/17 medication mix up, somewhere prior Mirtazapine increased to 60mg per day. PDoc concerned of Seratonin Syndrome reduced to 30mg per day. 21/6/17 Effexor 37.5mg reduced. 22/8/17 Mirtazapine reduced 15mg. 14/9/17 Developed GERD added 40mg Omeprazole x 1, 200mg x1 Ferrous Fumarate, 17/9/17 Propranolol dosage between 320mg to 400mg 3 to 4x per every second day for disabling Panic Attacks. 17/9/17 Current Medication: 12.5mg Olanzapine, 187.5mg Enlafax XR, 15mg Mirtazpine, Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3 pd, Propranolol 320mg to 400mg x 3 or 4 x perday. 40mg Omeprazole x 1, 200mg x 1 Ferrous Fumarate 29/9/17 Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3pd, Propranolol 120mg x 3 pd = 840mg per day. 9/10/17 Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3 per day, Propranolol 80mg x 3 per day = 720mg per day. Increased 10/9/17 Propranolol 840mg per day. 14/10/17 Reduced Mirtazapine to13.5mg 18/10/17 Removed Mirtazpine 13.5mg 23/10/17 Reducing Propranolol by 10mg every second day down to 400mg per day. 13/12/17 Now at 400mg Propranolol per day - holding. 20/12/17 Reduced Olanzapine by 10% to 11.25mg. 21/1/18: Reduced Olanzapine by .625mg Reducing Propranolol by 10mg per week. 8/3/18 Reduced Olanzapine by .625mg . 6/4/18 Reduced .625mg Olanzapine. 4/5/18 Reduced .625 Olanzapine 31/5/18 Changed from Propranolol 160 SR to Propranolol 160. 8/6/18 Morning Olanzapine changed to wafer and reduced by .10mg. 15/6/18 Reduced Olanzapine by .10mg per week Current Medication: 8.345mg Olanzapine; 187.50 Enlafax SR; Propranolol 55mg x 4 per day. Minimum 30mins exercise per day. Fortisip x 2 per day. 6/7/18 Admitted to Hospital with Chronic Aspiration Pneumonia - medications reduced. 8/11/18 Effexor XR 75mg morning and 37.5mg evening, Madopar Rapid 62.5mg x 4 per day. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted August 16, 2016 Administrator Share Posted August 16, 2016 Your husband is improving? That's very good news, Boomer. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Boomer Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 Hi everyone, Just wanted to update you on my husbands progress. He has stablised, is smiling and is so much better that he has returned to work part time. The main issue he has is tiredness and an insatiable appetite. The Psych doc wants to reduce him down from the Olanzapine, as I said in the last post, we will see what he means by reducing slowly in our next appointment which is in a couple of weeks time. Effexor Brand changed over to Enlafax XR sometime during the first three months of 2017. Reduced to 12.5mg Olanzapine, last reduction 25/4/17 on advice from PDoc to reduce the severe Akathesia, Panick Attacks and other disabling symptoms. 7/4/17 Propronolol @ 40mg x 3 times per day increasing as required. 160mg Slow Release x 3 times per day for disabling Panic Attacks. 15/5/17 medication mix up, somewhere prior Mirtazapine increased to 60mg per day. PDoc concerned of Seratonin Syndrome reduced to 30mg per day. 21/6/17 Effexor 37.5mg reduced. 22/8/17 Mirtazapine reduced 15mg. 14/9/17 Developed GERD added 40mg Omeprazole x 1, 200mg x1 Ferrous Fumarate, 17/9/17 Propranolol dosage between 320mg to 400mg 3 to 4x per every second day for disabling Panic Attacks. 17/9/17 Current Medication: 12.5mg Olanzapine, 187.5mg Enlafax XR, 15mg Mirtazpine, Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3 pd, Propranolol 320mg to 400mg x 3 or 4 x perday. 40mg Omeprazole x 1, 200mg x 1 Ferrous Fumarate 29/9/17 Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3pd, Propranolol 120mg x 3 pd = 840mg per day. 9/10/17 Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3 per day, Propranolol 80mg x 3 per day = 720mg per day. Increased 10/9/17 Propranolol 840mg per day. 14/10/17 Reduced Mirtazapine to13.5mg 18/10/17 Removed Mirtazpine 13.5mg 23/10/17 Reducing Propranolol by 10mg every second day down to 400mg per day. 13/12/17 Now at 400mg Propranolol per day - holding. 20/12/17 Reduced Olanzapine by 10% to 11.25mg. 21/1/18: Reduced Olanzapine by .625mg Reducing Propranolol by 10mg per week. 8/3/18 Reduced Olanzapine by .625mg . 6/4/18 Reduced .625mg Olanzapine. 4/5/18 Reduced .625 Olanzapine 31/5/18 Changed from Propranolol 160 SR to Propranolol 160. 8/6/18 Morning Olanzapine changed to wafer and reduced by .10mg. 15/6/18 Reduced Olanzapine by .10mg per week Current Medication: 8.345mg Olanzapine; 187.50 Enlafax SR; Propranolol 55mg x 4 per day. Minimum 30mins exercise per day. Fortisip x 2 per day. 6/7/18 Admitted to Hospital with Chronic Aspiration Pneumonia - medications reduced. 8/11/18 Effexor XR 75mg morning and 37.5mg evening, Madopar Rapid 62.5mg x 4 per day. Link to comment
Boomer Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 Your husband is improving? That's very good news, Boomer. Yes it is very good news and he has improved considerably. The Olanzapine is causing fatigue and his arms and legs feel like lead. Psych doc wants to reduce slowly but I will follow your guidelines not the Psych doc if different! Thanks for your support. Effexor Brand changed over to Enlafax XR sometime during the first three months of 2017. Reduced to 12.5mg Olanzapine, last reduction 25/4/17 on advice from PDoc to reduce the severe Akathesia, Panick Attacks and other disabling symptoms. 7/4/17 Propronolol @ 40mg x 3 times per day increasing as required. 160mg Slow Release x 3 times per day for disabling Panic Attacks. 15/5/17 medication mix up, somewhere prior Mirtazapine increased to 60mg per day. PDoc concerned of Seratonin Syndrome reduced to 30mg per day. 21/6/17 Effexor 37.5mg reduced. 22/8/17 Mirtazapine reduced 15mg. 14/9/17 Developed GERD added 40mg Omeprazole x 1, 200mg x1 Ferrous Fumarate, 17/9/17 Propranolol dosage between 320mg to 400mg 3 to 4x per every second day for disabling Panic Attacks. 17/9/17 Current Medication: 12.5mg Olanzapine, 187.5mg Enlafax XR, 15mg Mirtazpine, Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3 pd, Propranolol 320mg to 400mg x 3 or 4 x perday. 40mg Omeprazole x 1, 200mg x 1 Ferrous Fumarate 29/9/17 Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3pd, Propranolol 120mg x 3 pd = 840mg per day. 9/10/17 Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3 per day, Propranolol 80mg x 3 per day = 720mg per day. Increased 10/9/17 Propranolol 840mg per day. 14/10/17 Reduced Mirtazapine to13.5mg 18/10/17 Removed Mirtazpine 13.5mg 23/10/17 Reducing Propranolol by 10mg every second day down to 400mg per day. 13/12/17 Now at 400mg Propranolol per day - holding. 20/12/17 Reduced Olanzapine by 10% to 11.25mg. 21/1/18: Reduced Olanzapine by .625mg Reducing Propranolol by 10mg per week. 8/3/18 Reduced Olanzapine by .625mg . 6/4/18 Reduced .625mg Olanzapine. 4/5/18 Reduced .625 Olanzapine 31/5/18 Changed from Propranolol 160 SR to Propranolol 160. 8/6/18 Morning Olanzapine changed to wafer and reduced by .10mg. 15/6/18 Reduced Olanzapine by .10mg per week Current Medication: 8.345mg Olanzapine; 187.50 Enlafax SR; Propranolol 55mg x 4 per day. Minimum 30mins exercise per day. Fortisip x 2 per day. 6/7/18 Admitted to Hospital with Chronic Aspiration Pneumonia - medications reduced. 8/11/18 Effexor XR 75mg morning and 37.5mg evening, Madopar Rapid 62.5mg x 4 per day. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted August 16, 2016 Administrator Share Posted August 16, 2016 You're very welcome, Boomer. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
btdt Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Boomer your husband is very lucky to have you. I have a question the doctor you were trying to see who treated your husband in the past is this the doctor you are referring to when you say he wants him off the drugs or are you talking about the hosp doc from the psych ward? In my humble opinion it is always best to get an opinion from a doctor who knew your husband when he was fully functional if possible it may be just me but I find a doctor who knew you before the damage by psych drugs has a much better understanding of who you are and that often in my opinion changes ideas of how to treat you. When I seen doctors once I was in in trouble with the psych drugs all they seen was me at my worst they were not holding out looking for a person I really am before the damage as they did not know that person existed for all they knew I was always as I presented to them a complete and utter mess. If you have not sought out the old doc who knew your husband before I think it may make a big difference as this has been my experience. I am glad things have improved some and wish you and your husband peace. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 One more thought there was a thread here at SA at one point that told of the dose of medication that was mostly just wasted as the body could not take any more of the drug in the neurons were saturated at a certain point since his does of Effexor is so high now I wonder if it would make any sense to look at that now in preparedness for the future... I am relying on the mods here to know the thread I am talking about and present it to you for your perusal. peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Boomer Posted August 23, 2016 Author Share Posted August 23, 2016 Boomer your husband is very lucky to have you. I have a question the doctor you were trying to see who treated your husband in the past is this the doctor you are referring to when you say he wants him off the drugs or are you talking about the hosp doc from the psych ward? In my humble opinion it is always best to get an opinion from a doctor who knew your husband when he was fully functional if possible it may be just me but I find a doctor who knew you before the damage by psych drugs has a much better understanding of who you are and that often in my opinion changes ideas of how to treat you. When I seen doctors once I was in in trouble with the psych drugs all they seen was me at my worst they were not holding out looking for a person I really am before the damage as they did not know that person existed for all they knew I was always as I presented to them a complete and utter mess. If you have not sought out the old doc who knew your husband before I think it may make a big difference as this has been my experience. I am glad things have improved some and wish you and your husband peace. Thank you for your reply, will take your information into consideration. Thanks Effexor Brand changed over to Enlafax XR sometime during the first three months of 2017. Reduced to 12.5mg Olanzapine, last reduction 25/4/17 on advice from PDoc to reduce the severe Akathesia, Panick Attacks and other disabling symptoms. 7/4/17 Propronolol @ 40mg x 3 times per day increasing as required. 160mg Slow Release x 3 times per day for disabling Panic Attacks. 15/5/17 medication mix up, somewhere prior Mirtazapine increased to 60mg per day. PDoc concerned of Seratonin Syndrome reduced to 30mg per day. 21/6/17 Effexor 37.5mg reduced. 22/8/17 Mirtazapine reduced 15mg. 14/9/17 Developed GERD added 40mg Omeprazole x 1, 200mg x1 Ferrous Fumarate, 17/9/17 Propranolol dosage between 320mg to 400mg 3 to 4x per every second day for disabling Panic Attacks. 17/9/17 Current Medication: 12.5mg Olanzapine, 187.5mg Enlafax XR, 15mg Mirtazpine, Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3 pd, Propranolol 320mg to 400mg x 3 or 4 x perday. 40mg Omeprazole x 1, 200mg x 1 Ferrous Fumarate 29/9/17 Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3pd, Propranolol 120mg x 3 pd = 840mg per day. 9/10/17 Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3 per day, Propranolol 80mg x 3 per day = 720mg per day. Increased 10/9/17 Propranolol 840mg per day. 14/10/17 Reduced Mirtazapine to13.5mg 18/10/17 Removed Mirtazpine 13.5mg 23/10/17 Reducing Propranolol by 10mg every second day down to 400mg per day. 13/12/17 Now at 400mg Propranolol per day - holding. 20/12/17 Reduced Olanzapine by 10% to 11.25mg. 21/1/18: Reduced Olanzapine by .625mg Reducing Propranolol by 10mg per week. 8/3/18 Reduced Olanzapine by .625mg . 6/4/18 Reduced .625mg Olanzapine. 4/5/18 Reduced .625 Olanzapine 31/5/18 Changed from Propranolol 160 SR to Propranolol 160. 8/6/18 Morning Olanzapine changed to wafer and reduced by .10mg. 15/6/18 Reduced Olanzapine by .10mg per week Current Medication: 8.345mg Olanzapine; 187.50 Enlafax SR; Propranolol 55mg x 4 per day. Minimum 30mins exercise per day. Fortisip x 2 per day. 6/7/18 Admitted to Hospital with Chronic Aspiration Pneumonia - medications reduced. 8/11/18 Effexor XR 75mg morning and 37.5mg evening, Madopar Rapid 62.5mg x 4 per day. Link to comment
Boomer Posted September 2, 2016 Author Share Posted September 2, 2016 Husband is stable. Husband mucked up his drugs when he came out of hospital but he has and is stable. Psych Doc wanted to reduce Olanzapine but his method was by reducing 20mg to 17.5mg. My husband has returned to work and wants to retain some stability so said we will not reduce at this stage. My husband and I have decided we will reduce the Olanzapine but not how the Psych doc wants to do it (we haven't told the Psyc doc this). Is it better to cut the Olanzapine or use scales? I realise their is a coating on this drug and I know I had difficulty cutting it previously. Any thoughts on this please? Thanks Effexor Brand changed over to Enlafax XR sometime during the first three months of 2017. Reduced to 12.5mg Olanzapine, last reduction 25/4/17 on advice from PDoc to reduce the severe Akathesia, Panick Attacks and other disabling symptoms. 7/4/17 Propronolol @ 40mg x 3 times per day increasing as required. 160mg Slow Release x 3 times per day for disabling Panic Attacks. 15/5/17 medication mix up, somewhere prior Mirtazapine increased to 60mg per day. PDoc concerned of Seratonin Syndrome reduced to 30mg per day. 21/6/17 Effexor 37.5mg reduced. 22/8/17 Mirtazapine reduced 15mg. 14/9/17 Developed GERD added 40mg Omeprazole x 1, 200mg x1 Ferrous Fumarate, 17/9/17 Propranolol dosage between 320mg to 400mg 3 to 4x per every second day for disabling Panic Attacks. 17/9/17 Current Medication: 12.5mg Olanzapine, 187.5mg Enlafax XR, 15mg Mirtazpine, Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3 pd, Propranolol 320mg to 400mg x 3 or 4 x perday. 40mg Omeprazole x 1, 200mg x 1 Ferrous Fumarate 29/9/17 Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3pd, Propranolol 120mg x 3 pd = 840mg per day. 9/10/17 Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3 per day, Propranolol 80mg x 3 per day = 720mg per day. Increased 10/9/17 Propranolol 840mg per day. 14/10/17 Reduced Mirtazapine to13.5mg 18/10/17 Removed Mirtazpine 13.5mg 23/10/17 Reducing Propranolol by 10mg every second day down to 400mg per day. 13/12/17 Now at 400mg Propranolol per day - holding. 20/12/17 Reduced Olanzapine by 10% to 11.25mg. 21/1/18: Reduced Olanzapine by .625mg Reducing Propranolol by 10mg per week. 8/3/18 Reduced Olanzapine by .625mg . 6/4/18 Reduced .625mg Olanzapine. 4/5/18 Reduced .625 Olanzapine 31/5/18 Changed from Propranolol 160 SR to Propranolol 160. 8/6/18 Morning Olanzapine changed to wafer and reduced by .10mg. 15/6/18 Reduced Olanzapine by .10mg per week Current Medication: 8.345mg Olanzapine; 187.50 Enlafax SR; Propranolol 55mg x 4 per day. Minimum 30mins exercise per day. Fortisip x 2 per day. 6/7/18 Admitted to Hospital with Chronic Aspiration Pneumonia - medications reduced. 8/11/18 Effexor XR 75mg morning and 37.5mg evening, Madopar Rapid 62.5mg x 4 per day. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted September 2, 2016 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted September 2, 2016 Hi Boomer, I have highlighted the information in GREEN below from Tips for tapering off olanzapine (Zyprexa): (Note the caution in RED about using within 7 days.) Using tablets to taperSince olanzapine comes in many dosages, at least initially, tapering can take place using tablets and splitting them. Plan your taper and, via prescription, convert any dosage to some number of lower-dosage tablets.Zyprexa tablets can be safely split, according to http://ps.psychiatry...articleID=84368 Quote patients should be cautioned that because of the coating of Zyprexa, split tablets must be used within seven days. summed up at http://depression.ab...moneyonmeds.htmand Consumer Reports http://www.consumerr...tting-FINAL.pdf Use a digital scale to weigh tablet fragmentsTo control your dosage more exactly, you may wish to weigh tablet fragments, see Using a digital scale to measure doses * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Boomer Posted September 2, 2016 Author Share Posted September 2, 2016 Hi Boomer, I have highlighted the information in GREEN below from Tips for tapering off olanzapine (Zyprexa): (Note the caution in RED about using within 7 days.) Using tablets to taper Since olanzapine comes in many dosages, at least initially, tapering can take place using tablets and splitting them. Plan your taper and, via prescription, convert any dosage to some number of lower-dosage tablets. Zyprexa tablets can be safely split, according to http://ps.psychiatry...articleID=84368 Quote patients should be cautioned that because of the coating of Zyprexa, split tablets must be used within seven days. summed up at http://depression.ab...moneyonmeds.htm and Consumer Reports http://www.consumerr...tting-FINAL.pdf Use a digital scale to weigh tablet fragments To control your dosage more exactly, you may wish to weigh tablet fragments, see Using a digital scale to measure doses Thank you. Effexor Brand changed over to Enlafax XR sometime during the first three months of 2017. Reduced to 12.5mg Olanzapine, last reduction 25/4/17 on advice from PDoc to reduce the severe Akathesia, Panick Attacks and other disabling symptoms. 7/4/17 Propronolol @ 40mg x 3 times per day increasing as required. 160mg Slow Release x 3 times per day for disabling Panic Attacks. 15/5/17 medication mix up, somewhere prior Mirtazapine increased to 60mg per day. PDoc concerned of Seratonin Syndrome reduced to 30mg per day. 21/6/17 Effexor 37.5mg reduced. 22/8/17 Mirtazapine reduced 15mg. 14/9/17 Developed GERD added 40mg Omeprazole x 1, 200mg x1 Ferrous Fumarate, 17/9/17 Propranolol dosage between 320mg to 400mg 3 to 4x per every second day for disabling Panic Attacks. 17/9/17 Current Medication: 12.5mg Olanzapine, 187.5mg Enlafax XR, 15mg Mirtazpine, Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3 pd, Propranolol 320mg to 400mg x 3 or 4 x perday. 40mg Omeprazole x 1, 200mg x 1 Ferrous Fumarate 29/9/17 Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3pd, Propranolol 120mg x 3 pd = 840mg per day. 9/10/17 Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3 per day, Propranolol 80mg x 3 per day = 720mg per day. Increased 10/9/17 Propranolol 840mg per day. 14/10/17 Reduced Mirtazapine to13.5mg 18/10/17 Removed Mirtazpine 13.5mg 23/10/17 Reducing Propranolol by 10mg every second day down to 400mg per day. 13/12/17 Now at 400mg Propranolol per day - holding. 20/12/17 Reduced Olanzapine by 10% to 11.25mg. 21/1/18: Reduced Olanzapine by .625mg Reducing Propranolol by 10mg per week. 8/3/18 Reduced Olanzapine by .625mg . 6/4/18 Reduced .625mg Olanzapine. 4/5/18 Reduced .625 Olanzapine 31/5/18 Changed from Propranolol 160 SR to Propranolol 160. 8/6/18 Morning Olanzapine changed to wafer and reduced by .10mg. 15/6/18 Reduced Olanzapine by .10mg per week Current Medication: 8.345mg Olanzapine; 187.50 Enlafax SR; Propranolol 55mg x 4 per day. Minimum 30mins exercise per day. Fortisip x 2 per day. 6/7/18 Admitted to Hospital with Chronic Aspiration Pneumonia - medications reduced. 8/11/18 Effexor XR 75mg morning and 37.5mg evening, Madopar Rapid 62.5mg x 4 per day. Link to comment
nz11 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Hi Boomer any update? Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing. http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651 Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos. Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you Recovering paxil addict None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped." Dr Mosher. Me too! Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015 I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015 Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017 Link to comment
Boomer Posted September 19, 2016 Author Share Posted September 19, 2016 Hi NZ11 - Thanks for your concern. Awaiting for scales to arrive from the US. We have a meeting with PDoc at end of month when we know he wants to reduce 20mg of Olanzapine at the 2.5mg rate but we are going to say no to that and will reduce slowly at 10%! Husband is stable and now working four half days per week. Should start tapering around beginning of October. Effexor Brand changed over to Enlafax XR sometime during the first three months of 2017. Reduced to 12.5mg Olanzapine, last reduction 25/4/17 on advice from PDoc to reduce the severe Akathesia, Panick Attacks and other disabling symptoms. 7/4/17 Propronolol @ 40mg x 3 times per day increasing as required. 160mg Slow Release x 3 times per day for disabling Panic Attacks. 15/5/17 medication mix up, somewhere prior Mirtazapine increased to 60mg per day. PDoc concerned of Seratonin Syndrome reduced to 30mg per day. 21/6/17 Effexor 37.5mg reduced. 22/8/17 Mirtazapine reduced 15mg. 14/9/17 Developed GERD added 40mg Omeprazole x 1, 200mg x1 Ferrous Fumarate, 17/9/17 Propranolol dosage between 320mg to 400mg 3 to 4x per every second day for disabling Panic Attacks. 17/9/17 Current Medication: 12.5mg Olanzapine, 187.5mg Enlafax XR, 15mg Mirtazpine, Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3 pd, Propranolol 320mg to 400mg x 3 or 4 x perday. 40mg Omeprazole x 1, 200mg x 1 Ferrous Fumarate 29/9/17 Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3pd, Propranolol 120mg x 3 pd = 840mg per day. 9/10/17 Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3 per day, Propranolol 80mg x 3 per day = 720mg per day. Increased 10/9/17 Propranolol 840mg per day. 14/10/17 Reduced Mirtazapine to13.5mg 18/10/17 Removed Mirtazpine 13.5mg 23/10/17 Reducing Propranolol by 10mg every second day down to 400mg per day. 13/12/17 Now at 400mg Propranolol per day - holding. 20/12/17 Reduced Olanzapine by 10% to 11.25mg. 21/1/18: Reduced Olanzapine by .625mg Reducing Propranolol by 10mg per week. 8/3/18 Reduced Olanzapine by .625mg . 6/4/18 Reduced .625mg Olanzapine. 4/5/18 Reduced .625 Olanzapine 31/5/18 Changed from Propranolol 160 SR to Propranolol 160. 8/6/18 Morning Olanzapine changed to wafer and reduced by .10mg. 15/6/18 Reduced Olanzapine by .10mg per week Current Medication: 8.345mg Olanzapine; 187.50 Enlafax SR; Propranolol 55mg x 4 per day. Minimum 30mins exercise per day. Fortisip x 2 per day. 6/7/18 Admitted to Hospital with Chronic Aspiration Pneumonia - medications reduced. 8/11/18 Effexor XR 75mg morning and 37.5mg evening, Madopar Rapid 62.5mg x 4 per day. Link to comment
nz11 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Great stuff sounds like you are now in control. Good going. Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing. http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651 Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos. Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you Recovering paxil addict None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped." Dr Mosher. Me too! Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015 I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015 Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017 Link to comment
Boomer Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 Great stuff sounds like you are now in control. Good going. Well not quite in control. Extremely nervous about the meeting with the Pdoc! Effexor Brand changed over to Enlafax XR sometime during the first three months of 2017. Reduced to 12.5mg Olanzapine, last reduction 25/4/17 on advice from PDoc to reduce the severe Akathesia, Panick Attacks and other disabling symptoms. 7/4/17 Propronolol @ 40mg x 3 times per day increasing as required. 160mg Slow Release x 3 times per day for disabling Panic Attacks. 15/5/17 medication mix up, somewhere prior Mirtazapine increased to 60mg per day. PDoc concerned of Seratonin Syndrome reduced to 30mg per day. 21/6/17 Effexor 37.5mg reduced. 22/8/17 Mirtazapine reduced 15mg. 14/9/17 Developed GERD added 40mg Omeprazole x 1, 200mg x1 Ferrous Fumarate, 17/9/17 Propranolol dosage between 320mg to 400mg 3 to 4x per every second day for disabling Panic Attacks. 17/9/17 Current Medication: 12.5mg Olanzapine, 187.5mg Enlafax XR, 15mg Mirtazpine, Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3 pd, Propranolol 320mg to 400mg x 3 or 4 x perday. 40mg Omeprazole x 1, 200mg x 1 Ferrous Fumarate 29/9/17 Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3pd, Propranolol 120mg x 3 pd = 840mg per day. 9/10/17 Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3 per day, Propranolol 80mg x 3 per day = 720mg per day. Increased 10/9/17 Propranolol 840mg per day. 14/10/17 Reduced Mirtazapine to13.5mg 18/10/17 Removed Mirtazpine 13.5mg 23/10/17 Reducing Propranolol by 10mg every second day down to 400mg per day. 13/12/17 Now at 400mg Propranolol per day - holding. 20/12/17 Reduced Olanzapine by 10% to 11.25mg. 21/1/18: Reduced Olanzapine by .625mg Reducing Propranolol by 10mg per week. 8/3/18 Reduced Olanzapine by .625mg . 6/4/18 Reduced .625mg Olanzapine. 4/5/18 Reduced .625 Olanzapine 31/5/18 Changed from Propranolol 160 SR to Propranolol 160. 8/6/18 Morning Olanzapine changed to wafer and reduced by .10mg. 15/6/18 Reduced Olanzapine by .10mg per week Current Medication: 8.345mg Olanzapine; 187.50 Enlafax SR; Propranolol 55mg x 4 per day. Minimum 30mins exercise per day. Fortisip x 2 per day. 6/7/18 Admitted to Hospital with Chronic Aspiration Pneumonia - medications reduced. 8/11/18 Effexor XR 75mg morning and 37.5mg evening, Madopar Rapid 62.5mg x 4 per day. Link to comment
Boomer Posted September 26, 2016 Author Share Posted September 26, 2016 Hubby on 20mg Olanzapine and need to taper very slowly. Just thinking would it be correct to start this taper with a 15mg tablet and two 2.5mg tablets = 20mg Then on the first taper cut one of the 2.5mg tablets in half = 18.75 hold for a month. Second month if stable then reduce to 17.5mg. Third month cut 2.5mg in half reducing to 16.25mg. Fourth month down to 15mg and so on until we reach 11.25mg where the cuts will become smaller than the 1.25? Effexor Brand changed over to Enlafax XR sometime during the first three months of 2017. Reduced to 12.5mg Olanzapine, last reduction 25/4/17 on advice from PDoc to reduce the severe Akathesia, Panick Attacks and other disabling symptoms. 7/4/17 Propronolol @ 40mg x 3 times per day increasing as required. 160mg Slow Release x 3 times per day for disabling Panic Attacks. 15/5/17 medication mix up, somewhere prior Mirtazapine increased to 60mg per day. PDoc concerned of Seratonin Syndrome reduced to 30mg per day. 21/6/17 Effexor 37.5mg reduced. 22/8/17 Mirtazapine reduced 15mg. 14/9/17 Developed GERD added 40mg Omeprazole x 1, 200mg x1 Ferrous Fumarate, 17/9/17 Propranolol dosage between 320mg to 400mg 3 to 4x per every second day for disabling Panic Attacks. 17/9/17 Current Medication: 12.5mg Olanzapine, 187.5mg Enlafax XR, 15mg Mirtazpine, Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3 pd, Propranolol 320mg to 400mg x 3 or 4 x perday. 40mg Omeprazole x 1, 200mg x 1 Ferrous Fumarate 29/9/17 Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3pd, Propranolol 120mg x 3 pd = 840mg per day. 9/10/17 Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3 per day, Propranolol 80mg x 3 per day = 720mg per day. Increased 10/9/17 Propranolol 840mg per day. 14/10/17 Reduced Mirtazapine to13.5mg 18/10/17 Removed Mirtazpine 13.5mg 23/10/17 Reducing Propranolol by 10mg every second day down to 400mg per day. 13/12/17 Now at 400mg Propranolol per day - holding. 20/12/17 Reduced Olanzapine by 10% to 11.25mg. 21/1/18: Reduced Olanzapine by .625mg Reducing Propranolol by 10mg per week. 8/3/18 Reduced Olanzapine by .625mg . 6/4/18 Reduced .625mg Olanzapine. 4/5/18 Reduced .625 Olanzapine 31/5/18 Changed from Propranolol 160 SR to Propranolol 160. 8/6/18 Morning Olanzapine changed to wafer and reduced by .10mg. 15/6/18 Reduced Olanzapine by .10mg per week Current Medication: 8.345mg Olanzapine; 187.50 Enlafax SR; Propranolol 55mg x 4 per day. Minimum 30mins exercise per day. Fortisip x 2 per day. 6/7/18 Admitted to Hospital with Chronic Aspiration Pneumonia - medications reduced. 8/11/18 Effexor XR 75mg morning and 37.5mg evening, Madopar Rapid 62.5mg x 4 per day. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted September 26, 2016 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted September 26, 2016 Hi Boomer, I've quoted your post here: Hubby on 20mg Olanzapine and need to taper very slowly. Just thinking would it be correct to start this taper with a 15mg tablet and two 2.5mg tablets = 20mg Then on the first taper cut one of the 2.5mg tablets in half = 18.75 hold for a month. Second month if stable then reduce to 17.5mg. Third month cut 2.5mg in half reducing to 16.25mg. Fourth month down to 15mg and so on until we reach 11.25mg where the cuts will become smaller than the 1.25? * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
herewego Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Hi Boomer, about 17 topics below this one there is a thread on tapering zyprexa/olanzapine Medicine History June 2011 I was put on 10 mg Olanzapine. I stayed on that for 7 months then went down to 5 mg for 3 months and then went down to 2.5mg and slowly went down to less than .3 every few days. I have tried to come off 4 times, each time getting down to less than .3 before having to go back on at 5mg or 2.5mg. I would cut by 50% each taper. From Jan 2015 to June 2015 I reduced from about 5mg to .3 mg. This last time I went on 2.5 mg last June 2015 until July 2, 2016. July 3, 2016 I went down to 1.25mg - withdrawal hit. Up dosed to liquid 2 mg July 23, 2016. Medicine Current 2 mg Olanzapine as of July 23, 2016 Supplements Omega 3 1000mg, Vitamin E 400 UI, Vitamin C 1000 mg Time Released, 200 mg Magnesium Bisglycinate, Multi Probiotic, .25 mg melatonin for 3-5 days as needed Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted September 26, 2016 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted September 26, 2016 Here is the link: Tips for tapering off Zyprexa (olanzapine) * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Boomer Posted September 26, 2016 Author Share Posted September 26, 2016 Hi Boomer, about 17 topics below this one there is a thread on tapering zyprexa/olanzapine Thank you - I have read it. Just looking at a very slow and easy way to taper. Effexor Brand changed over to Enlafax XR sometime during the first three months of 2017. Reduced to 12.5mg Olanzapine, last reduction 25/4/17 on advice from PDoc to reduce the severe Akathesia, Panick Attacks and other disabling symptoms. 7/4/17 Propronolol @ 40mg x 3 times per day increasing as required. 160mg Slow Release x 3 times per day for disabling Panic Attacks. 15/5/17 medication mix up, somewhere prior Mirtazapine increased to 60mg per day. PDoc concerned of Seratonin Syndrome reduced to 30mg per day. 21/6/17 Effexor 37.5mg reduced. 22/8/17 Mirtazapine reduced 15mg. 14/9/17 Developed GERD added 40mg Omeprazole x 1, 200mg x1 Ferrous Fumarate, 17/9/17 Propranolol dosage between 320mg to 400mg 3 to 4x per every second day for disabling Panic Attacks. 17/9/17 Current Medication: 12.5mg Olanzapine, 187.5mg Enlafax XR, 15mg Mirtazpine, Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3 pd, Propranolol 320mg to 400mg x 3 or 4 x perday. 40mg Omeprazole x 1, 200mg x 1 Ferrous Fumarate 29/9/17 Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3pd, Propranolol 120mg x 3 pd = 840mg per day. 9/10/17 Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3 per day, Propranolol 80mg x 3 per day = 720mg per day. Increased 10/9/17 Propranolol 840mg per day. 14/10/17 Reduced Mirtazapine to13.5mg 18/10/17 Removed Mirtazpine 13.5mg 23/10/17 Reducing Propranolol by 10mg every second day down to 400mg per day. 13/12/17 Now at 400mg Propranolol per day - holding. 20/12/17 Reduced Olanzapine by 10% to 11.25mg. 21/1/18: Reduced Olanzapine by .625mg Reducing Propranolol by 10mg per week. 8/3/18 Reduced Olanzapine by .625mg . 6/4/18 Reduced .625mg Olanzapine. 4/5/18 Reduced .625 Olanzapine 31/5/18 Changed from Propranolol 160 SR to Propranolol 160. 8/6/18 Morning Olanzapine changed to wafer and reduced by .10mg. 15/6/18 Reduced Olanzapine by .10mg per week Current Medication: 8.345mg Olanzapine; 187.50 Enlafax SR; Propranolol 55mg x 4 per day. Minimum 30mins exercise per day. Fortisip x 2 per day. 6/7/18 Admitted to Hospital with Chronic Aspiration Pneumonia - medications reduced. 8/11/18 Effexor XR 75mg morning and 37.5mg evening, Madopar Rapid 62.5mg x 4 per day. Link to comment
Boomer Posted September 26, 2016 Author Share Posted September 26, 2016 Here is the link: Tips for tapering off Zyprexa (olanzapine) Hi ChessieCat - I have read the information but I just wanted confirmation that I have calculated the taper correctly by utilising a 2.5mg tab and cutting it in half each time until we reach 11.25 where we will then have to make smaller cuts. 20 1.25 18.75 6.25% 18.75 1.25 17.5 6.67% 17.5 1.25 16.25 7.14% 16.25 1.25 15 7.69% 15 1.25 13.75 8.33% 13.75 1.25 12.5 9.09% 12.5 1.25 11.25 10.00% Effexor Brand changed over to Enlafax XR sometime during the first three months of 2017. Reduced to 12.5mg Olanzapine, last reduction 25/4/17 on advice from PDoc to reduce the severe Akathesia, Panick Attacks and other disabling symptoms. 7/4/17 Propronolol @ 40mg x 3 times per day increasing as required. 160mg Slow Release x 3 times per day for disabling Panic Attacks. 15/5/17 medication mix up, somewhere prior Mirtazapine increased to 60mg per day. PDoc concerned of Seratonin Syndrome reduced to 30mg per day. 21/6/17 Effexor 37.5mg reduced. 22/8/17 Mirtazapine reduced 15mg. 14/9/17 Developed GERD added 40mg Omeprazole x 1, 200mg x1 Ferrous Fumarate, 17/9/17 Propranolol dosage between 320mg to 400mg 3 to 4x per every second day for disabling Panic Attacks. 17/9/17 Current Medication: 12.5mg Olanzapine, 187.5mg Enlafax XR, 15mg Mirtazpine, Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3 pd, Propranolol 320mg to 400mg x 3 or 4 x perday. 40mg Omeprazole x 1, 200mg x 1 Ferrous Fumarate 29/9/17 Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3pd, Propranolol 120mg x 3 pd = 840mg per day. 9/10/17 Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3 per day, Propranolol 80mg x 3 per day = 720mg per day. Increased 10/9/17 Propranolol 840mg per day. 14/10/17 Reduced Mirtazapine to13.5mg 18/10/17 Removed Mirtazpine 13.5mg 23/10/17 Reducing Propranolol by 10mg every second day down to 400mg per day. 13/12/17 Now at 400mg Propranolol per day - holding. 20/12/17 Reduced Olanzapine by 10% to 11.25mg. 21/1/18: Reduced Olanzapine by .625mg Reducing Propranolol by 10mg per week. 8/3/18 Reduced Olanzapine by .625mg . 6/4/18 Reduced .625mg Olanzapine. 4/5/18 Reduced .625 Olanzapine 31/5/18 Changed from Propranolol 160 SR to Propranolol 160. 8/6/18 Morning Olanzapine changed to wafer and reduced by .10mg. 15/6/18 Reduced Olanzapine by .10mg per week Current Medication: 8.345mg Olanzapine; 187.50 Enlafax SR; Propranolol 55mg x 4 per day. Minimum 30mins exercise per day. Fortisip x 2 per day. 6/7/18 Admitted to Hospital with Chronic Aspiration Pneumonia - medications reduced. 8/11/18 Effexor XR 75mg morning and 37.5mg evening, Madopar Rapid 62.5mg x 4 per day. Link to comment
Boomer Posted September 26, 2016 Author Share Posted September 26, 2016 Hi Boomer, I've quoted your post here: Hubby on 20mg Olanzapine and need to taper very slowly. Just thinking would it be correct to start this taper with a 15mg tablet and two 2.5mg tablets = 20mg Then on the first taper cut one of the 2.5mg tablets in half = 18.75 hold for a month. Second month if stable then reduce to 17.5mg. Third month cut 2.5mg in half reducing to 16.25mg. Fourth month down to 15mg and so on until we reach 11.25mg where the cuts will become smaller than the 1.25? Hi ChessieCat - should I have posted the taper question in here? Effexor Brand changed over to Enlafax XR sometime during the first three months of 2017. Reduced to 12.5mg Olanzapine, last reduction 25/4/17 on advice from PDoc to reduce the severe Akathesia, Panick Attacks and other disabling symptoms. 7/4/17 Propronolol @ 40mg x 3 times per day increasing as required. 160mg Slow Release x 3 times per day for disabling Panic Attacks. 15/5/17 medication mix up, somewhere prior Mirtazapine increased to 60mg per day. PDoc concerned of Seratonin Syndrome reduced to 30mg per day. 21/6/17 Effexor 37.5mg reduced. 22/8/17 Mirtazapine reduced 15mg. 14/9/17 Developed GERD added 40mg Omeprazole x 1, 200mg x1 Ferrous Fumarate, 17/9/17 Propranolol dosage between 320mg to 400mg 3 to 4x per every second day for disabling Panic Attacks. 17/9/17 Current Medication: 12.5mg Olanzapine, 187.5mg Enlafax XR, 15mg Mirtazpine, Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3 pd, Propranolol 320mg to 400mg x 3 or 4 x perday. 40mg Omeprazole x 1, 200mg x 1 Ferrous Fumarate 29/9/17 Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3pd, Propranolol 120mg x 3 pd = 840mg per day. 9/10/17 Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3 per day, Propranolol 80mg x 3 per day = 720mg per day. Increased 10/9/17 Propranolol 840mg per day. 14/10/17 Reduced Mirtazapine to13.5mg 18/10/17 Removed Mirtazpine 13.5mg 23/10/17 Reducing Propranolol by 10mg every second day down to 400mg per day. 13/12/17 Now at 400mg Propranolol per day - holding. 20/12/17 Reduced Olanzapine by 10% to 11.25mg. 21/1/18: Reduced Olanzapine by .625mg Reducing Propranolol by 10mg per week. 8/3/18 Reduced Olanzapine by .625mg . 6/4/18 Reduced .625mg Olanzapine. 4/5/18 Reduced .625 Olanzapine 31/5/18 Changed from Propranolol 160 SR to Propranolol 160. 8/6/18 Morning Olanzapine changed to wafer and reduced by .10mg. 15/6/18 Reduced Olanzapine by .10mg per week Current Medication: 8.345mg Olanzapine; 187.50 Enlafax SR; Propranolol 55mg x 4 per day. Minimum 30mins exercise per day. Fortisip x 2 per day. 6/7/18 Admitted to Hospital with Chronic Aspiration Pneumonia - medications reduced. 8/11/18 Effexor XR 75mg morning and 37.5mg evening, Madopar Rapid 62.5mg x 4 per day. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted September 26, 2016 Administrator Share Posted September 26, 2016 Boomer, I merged your topics here. You've done an excellent job strategizing how to use that 2.5mg tablet! This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Boomer Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share Posted September 27, 2016 Boomer, I merged your topics here. You've done an excellent job strategizing how to use that 2.5mg tablet! Thank you - we are very nervous about tapering and want to make sure we dont have the same outcome as previously. Effexor Brand changed over to Enlafax XR sometime during the first three months of 2017. Reduced to 12.5mg Olanzapine, last reduction 25/4/17 on advice from PDoc to reduce the severe Akathesia, Panick Attacks and other disabling symptoms. 7/4/17 Propronolol @ 40mg x 3 times per day increasing as required. 160mg Slow Release x 3 times per day for disabling Panic Attacks. 15/5/17 medication mix up, somewhere prior Mirtazapine increased to 60mg per day. PDoc concerned of Seratonin Syndrome reduced to 30mg per day. 21/6/17 Effexor 37.5mg reduced. 22/8/17 Mirtazapine reduced 15mg. 14/9/17 Developed GERD added 40mg Omeprazole x 1, 200mg x1 Ferrous Fumarate, 17/9/17 Propranolol dosage between 320mg to 400mg 3 to 4x per every second day for disabling Panic Attacks. 17/9/17 Current Medication: 12.5mg Olanzapine, 187.5mg Enlafax XR, 15mg Mirtazpine, Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3 pd, Propranolol 320mg to 400mg x 3 or 4 x perday. 40mg Omeprazole x 1, 200mg x 1 Ferrous Fumarate 29/9/17 Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3pd, Propranolol 120mg x 3 pd = 840mg per day. 9/10/17 Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3 per day, Propranolol 80mg x 3 per day = 720mg per day. Increased 10/9/17 Propranolol 840mg per day. 14/10/17 Reduced Mirtazapine to13.5mg 18/10/17 Removed Mirtazpine 13.5mg 23/10/17 Reducing Propranolol by 10mg every second day down to 400mg per day. 13/12/17 Now at 400mg Propranolol per day - holding. 20/12/17 Reduced Olanzapine by 10% to 11.25mg. 21/1/18: Reduced Olanzapine by .625mg Reducing Propranolol by 10mg per week. 8/3/18 Reduced Olanzapine by .625mg . 6/4/18 Reduced .625mg Olanzapine. 4/5/18 Reduced .625 Olanzapine 31/5/18 Changed from Propranolol 160 SR to Propranolol 160. 8/6/18 Morning Olanzapine changed to wafer and reduced by .10mg. 15/6/18 Reduced Olanzapine by .10mg per week Current Medication: 8.345mg Olanzapine; 187.50 Enlafax SR; Propranolol 55mg x 4 per day. Minimum 30mins exercise per day. Fortisip x 2 per day. 6/7/18 Admitted to Hospital with Chronic Aspiration Pneumonia - medications reduced. 8/11/18 Effexor XR 75mg morning and 37.5mg evening, Madopar Rapid 62.5mg x 4 per day. Link to comment
WingIt Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Hi Boomer, New here and from NZ. Wondering how your husband is going. I am currently supporting my wife through efexor xr and seroquel cold turkey withdrawal. 5 weeks and counting. I read earlier about Olanzapine making him like a zombie, my wife was given 2.5mg a few weeks into withdrawal to try stop her negative thinking and help sleep. She took it for 9 days and put on 4-5kg, always drowsy, zombie like and aching body. She stopped that cold turkey as well. She is also not herself and currently experiency some "mild psychosis" as I put it. Just thought id touch base with a fellow kiwi Supporting my wife through Effexor XR withdrawal -Oct 2015: 112.5mg Effexor XR in morning for anxiety, 25mg Seroquol at night for sleep -March-August 2016: Her life falls apart, paranoia, insomnia, weight loss, quit her job etc -Sept 2nd 2016: Cold Turkey stopped Effexor and Seroquol -Prescribed 2.5mg Olanazapine for sleep and mood stabilisation started taking after 3 weeks withdrawal -Currently past most physical withdrawals, still low energy, still aches, but no brain zaps or dizzyness -Mental state is concerning, hates everyone, tried to annull marriage, wants to move away and start a new life -Oct 2016, beginning to see some improvement, still on 2.5mg Olanzapine, started fish oil and magnesium -Olanzapine stopped after 9 days due to constant hunger, aches, and drowsiness -5-htp added to supps alongside Fish Oil and Magnesium, sleeping 8hours naturally now 5 weeks post efexor and seroquol, 1 week post olanzapine. Still days of "psychosis" like symptoms, irritable, angry, apathetic etc Link to comment
Boomer Posted October 13, 2016 Author Share Posted October 13, 2016 Hi Everyone - Husband is still stable after 2 weeks of having tapered 1.25mg Olanzapine. We were going to taper monthly but I have reread the tapering tips and it says fortnightly. Just wondering whether we should taper monthly or try perhaps three weekly? Fortnightly sounds too quick. Thoughts please? Effexor Brand changed over to Enlafax XR sometime during the first three months of 2017. Reduced to 12.5mg Olanzapine, last reduction 25/4/17 on advice from PDoc to reduce the severe Akathesia, Panick Attacks and other disabling symptoms. 7/4/17 Propronolol @ 40mg x 3 times per day increasing as required. 160mg Slow Release x 3 times per day for disabling Panic Attacks. 15/5/17 medication mix up, somewhere prior Mirtazapine increased to 60mg per day. PDoc concerned of Seratonin Syndrome reduced to 30mg per day. 21/6/17 Effexor 37.5mg reduced. 22/8/17 Mirtazapine reduced 15mg. 14/9/17 Developed GERD added 40mg Omeprazole x 1, 200mg x1 Ferrous Fumarate, 17/9/17 Propranolol dosage between 320mg to 400mg 3 to 4x per every second day for disabling Panic Attacks. 17/9/17 Current Medication: 12.5mg Olanzapine, 187.5mg Enlafax XR, 15mg Mirtazpine, Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3 pd, Propranolol 320mg to 400mg x 3 or 4 x perday. 40mg Omeprazole x 1, 200mg x 1 Ferrous Fumarate 29/9/17 Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3pd, Propranolol 120mg x 3 pd = 840mg per day. 9/10/17 Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3 per day, Propranolol 80mg x 3 per day = 720mg per day. Increased 10/9/17 Propranolol 840mg per day. 14/10/17 Reduced Mirtazapine to13.5mg 18/10/17 Removed Mirtazpine 13.5mg 23/10/17 Reducing Propranolol by 10mg every second day down to 400mg per day. 13/12/17 Now at 400mg Propranolol per day - holding. 20/12/17 Reduced Olanzapine by 10% to 11.25mg. 21/1/18: Reduced Olanzapine by .625mg Reducing Propranolol by 10mg per week. 8/3/18 Reduced Olanzapine by .625mg . 6/4/18 Reduced .625mg Olanzapine. 4/5/18 Reduced .625 Olanzapine 31/5/18 Changed from Propranolol 160 SR to Propranolol 160. 8/6/18 Morning Olanzapine changed to wafer and reduced by .10mg. 15/6/18 Reduced Olanzapine by .10mg per week Current Medication: 8.345mg Olanzapine; 187.50 Enlafax SR; Propranolol 55mg x 4 per day. Minimum 30mins exercise per day. Fortisip x 2 per day. 6/7/18 Admitted to Hospital with Chronic Aspiration Pneumonia - medications reduced. 8/11/18 Effexor XR 75mg morning and 37.5mg evening, Madopar Rapid 62.5mg x 4 per day. Link to comment
nz11 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Hi Boomer I think the word was 'few' not 'two'. Maybe just go with three as a minumum hold Anyway if wdl symptoms arise you will now you are going to fast. Glad everything is currently going well. Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing. http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651 Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos. Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you Recovering paxil addict None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped." Dr Mosher. Me too! Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015 I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015 Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017 Link to comment
Boomer Posted October 13, 2016 Author Share Posted October 13, 2016 Hi Boomer I think the word was 'few' not 'two'. Maybe just go with three as a minumum hold Anyway if wdl symptoms arise you will now you are going to fast. Glad everything is currently going well. Hi NZ11 This is what was written in the taper tips "To minimize the risk of withdrawal symptoms, we recommend a conservative taper of 10% from the previous dosage every few weeks. The amount of the decrease keeps getting smaller. Some people find they can go faster and some people find they have to go slower -- they can only tolerate decreases of a fraction of a milligram at a time." We are tapering 6.25% at the moment. Very sad news about the mental health situation in NZ? Thanks Boomer Effexor Brand changed over to Enlafax XR sometime during the first three months of 2017. Reduced to 12.5mg Olanzapine, last reduction 25/4/17 on advice from PDoc to reduce the severe Akathesia, Panick Attacks and other disabling symptoms. 7/4/17 Propronolol @ 40mg x 3 times per day increasing as required. 160mg Slow Release x 3 times per day for disabling Panic Attacks. 15/5/17 medication mix up, somewhere prior Mirtazapine increased to 60mg per day. PDoc concerned of Seratonin Syndrome reduced to 30mg per day. 21/6/17 Effexor 37.5mg reduced. 22/8/17 Mirtazapine reduced 15mg. 14/9/17 Developed GERD added 40mg Omeprazole x 1, 200mg x1 Ferrous Fumarate, 17/9/17 Propranolol dosage between 320mg to 400mg 3 to 4x per every second day for disabling Panic Attacks. 17/9/17 Current Medication: 12.5mg Olanzapine, 187.5mg Enlafax XR, 15mg Mirtazpine, Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3 pd, Propranolol 320mg to 400mg x 3 or 4 x perday. 40mg Omeprazole x 1, 200mg x 1 Ferrous Fumarate 29/9/17 Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3pd, Propranolol 120mg x 3 pd = 840mg per day. 9/10/17 Propranolol Slow Release 160mg x 3 per day, Propranolol 80mg x 3 per day = 720mg per day. Increased 10/9/17 Propranolol 840mg per day. 14/10/17 Reduced Mirtazapine to13.5mg 18/10/17 Removed Mirtazpine 13.5mg 23/10/17 Reducing Propranolol by 10mg every second day down to 400mg per day. 13/12/17 Now at 400mg Propranolol per day - holding. 20/12/17 Reduced Olanzapine by 10% to 11.25mg. 21/1/18: Reduced Olanzapine by .625mg Reducing Propranolol by 10mg per week. 8/3/18 Reduced Olanzapine by .625mg . 6/4/18 Reduced .625mg Olanzapine. 4/5/18 Reduced .625 Olanzapine 31/5/18 Changed from Propranolol 160 SR to Propranolol 160. 8/6/18 Morning Olanzapine changed to wafer and reduced by .10mg. 15/6/18 Reduced Olanzapine by .10mg per week Current Medication: 8.345mg Olanzapine; 187.50 Enlafax SR; Propranolol 55mg x 4 per day. Minimum 30mins exercise per day. Fortisip x 2 per day. 6/7/18 Admitted to Hospital with Chronic Aspiration Pneumonia - medications reduced. 8/11/18 Effexor XR 75mg morning and 37.5mg evening, Madopar Rapid 62.5mg x 4 per day. Link to comment
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