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http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2016/05/what-it-s-like-to-be-unable-to-bear-the-sound-of-someone-eating.html

 

So I've always been this way, add to it someone playing their music or TV too loudly and I am near to choking the life out of them.

 

I am adding it here because since recovering from WD syndrome, my reaction is not so 'going for the throat' with noise but cutting me off in traffic makes me want to go into ramming mode.

 

Some stuff more easily angers me, some stuff not. But to find this article was great: I always thought it was me and I 'learned' it from my dad.

 

Um, the chewing thing will have me leaving you at the restaurant alone to save my sanity, however (and likely saving you from a fork in your eye).

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manymoretodays

Lol.  Yup the chewing thing.  I know what you mean and wanted to mark this for further reading of the link you gave.  My supersensory hearing sometimes still drives me batty.........mostly because I figure everyone else can hear my cell phone conversations and such........ when I am in my garage or outside just like I hear all their personal stuff too(neighbors talking or having their own cell phone conversations).  I just hear so acutely now!  Is that you or me grinding teeth???!!!!

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scallywag

I definitely have this for a very specific mouth noise particularly if the offender is behind me.  The sound creeps me out, makes my skin crawl.

 

I used to listen to talk-y radio, e.g. CBC and NPR, all the time. Now I can tolerate no more than 5 minutes. The good thing is that I've discovered some lovely classical CDs that I think I could listen to all day.

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JanCarol

OMG, how am I going to break this to hubby?  (here, I just thought he was a barbarian, raised in a barn, with the table manners of a canine).

 

I keep telling myself he smacks his lips like that to induce olfactory sensations so that his food tastes better to him (because I also think he has deficient taste buds) and that he scrapes his spoon on the bowl like that to get every last bit up (geezzzzzz, just lick the bowl, it would be quieter!)

 

Poor hubby!  

 

From the article:

 

 

Those are my exact thoughts. What is wrong with you? Who raised you? Why do you not have manners? How did you get this far in life without realizing how disgusting you are? It’s really bad. I feel pure rage. I don’t know how else to describe it. I feel indignant, like, how does this person think this is okay? Who raised them? Why did no one tell them that these noises could disturb people around them? Are they going to be doing this forever? Who could possibly date them? Does their significant other chew like this, too? Does their entire family chew like this? Imagine being at dinner with their family, they probably have the worst manners. They are definitely the type of family where conversation ceases as soon as they get their plates, which would make the sound even worse. Maybe I should give them a dirty look so they’ll get the point. Okay, giving them a dirty look now — okay, we made eye contact and they’re still doing it. Was my face not bitchy enough? Should I have raised an eyebrow? Can I move seats? Can I get off this train?

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btdt

I had this in wd only.  It was really bad it has eased now.  I still cannot tolerate the radio playing in the car.. it drives me nuts.  

 

I knew this child once who had taken an over dose of a drug his dad had been given post ear surgery for dizziness I think ti was likely the same thing I was given for a concussion dizziness... something like this dimenhydrinate but not exactly... 

 

When he had recovered he could not tolerate sound either from what I knew of him he did not have this before he took the bottle of pills as a 2 year old. that I find a bit interesting...

 

according to this person it is a relatively new thing... 

https://thebigreason.com/blog/2012/08/22/misophonia/

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JanCarol

From:  https://www.statnews.com/2016/06/17/misophonia-noise-rage/

 

Gould was reduced to tears. He realized, at last, that he was not weird, not crazy, and not alone. Now, he’s aiming to get the message out to the world with a documentary, “Quiet Please…,” which shows just how excruciating and lonely it can be to live with the condition. The film premieres Saturday in New York City.

Misophonia, sometimes called selective sound sensitivity syndrome or 4S, is a baffling and bizarre disorder. Patients feel an instantaneous, overwhelming, and uncontrollable rage — often accompanied by physiological responses such as sweaty palms or a racing heart — to certain sounds.

 

 

and:

https://www.statnews.com/2016/02/18/noise-induced-ear-pain/

 

 

Researchers have known for years about a condition called hyperacusis, where ordinary sounds seem uncomfortably loud. But they’re just starting to understand that some patients experience a more severe form, where noise is not just heard — but is actually felt, as physical pain.

 

Using new lab tools and techniques, pioneering scientists have identified what appear to be pain fibers in the inner ear, or cochlea. They are coining new terms, including “noxacusis” and “auditory nociception,” for this newly recognized sensation of noise-induced ear pain.

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Patients’ descriptions of the pain are remarkably similar: A sound is usually perceived as the sharp jab of a knife or skewer. The sensation persists as a searing, burning ear pain, often combined with the pressure known as aural fullness and the ringing known as tinnitus.
What even most auditory scientists don’t understand about hyperacusis with pain is that the pain lingers long after the sound is gone, much as the pain from a flesh wound would,” said M. Charles Liberman, a professor of otology at Harvard Medical School and director of a hearing research lab at the Massachusetts Eye & Ear Infirmary.

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BlackDiamond

HI, I was just wondering if anyone here developed Misophonia (rage and anxiety to certain everyday sounds) after antidepressant use or as a sequel even if you are not taking it anymore. I never had any problem with sounds until after I left medications. Now I can't stand mouth awful sounds people do when eating or kissing. I really hate them! I can't describe what I feel when I hear them! Maybe antidepressants rewire the brain to a point where they mix fight-or-flight reactions with auditory cortex?

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powerback

hi blackdiamond yep I have this also .and its fairly bad for the last 6 months since I had a breakdown trying to cope and struggle through work with the symptoms ,one day in November I picked up a power tool and couldn't bare the noise so a fuse went in me and I'm mostly struggling or coping with ok times mixed in .

some one licked there fingers in my ear shot yesterday , I felt  like the incredible hulk holding in my rage its a nightmare .

its down to stress on our nervous system I reckon with the brains emotions getting mixed up,im just surmising I'm not a professional .

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BlackDiamond
4 hours ago, powerback said:

hi blackdiamond yep I have this also .and its fairly bad for the last 6 months since I had a breakdown trying to cope and struggle through work with the symptoms ,one day in November I picked up a power tool and couldn't bare the noise so a fuse went in me and I'm mostly struggling or coping with ok times mixed in .

some one licked there fingers in my ear shot yesterday , I felt  like the incredible hulk holding in my rage its a nightmare .

its down to stress on our nervous system I reckon with the brains emotions getting mixed up,im just surmising I'm not a professional .

 

I knew it! May this be reversible because I can't stand yawnings or people eating like pigs, before the medication I didn't care at all but suddenly most sounds cause me a total rage. Besides I hear everything 10 times louder even if it doesn't bother me as causing me rage but it hurts like you're exposing to really loud noises when everybody feels no hurt at the same levels. It is a shame they cause us serious consequences in the name of Medicine. And nobody gets punished for that.

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powerback

I also have a very strong memory recall with smells going on also , nothing too unpleasant but very interesting what's going on with that .

It's tragic how things affect us in the name of medicine but I recommend not ruminating too much on this ,it really doesn't help us ,we can support change going on in the world around us rather than directing hatred that just  eats us up but I do agree it's hard to be calm sometimes 

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btdt

another name lol

 

we have so many names now for wd symptoms... like pulling the wings off a live fly... I can't suck anymore names into my brain enough already hypersensitivity is good enough for me and covers a wide range of wd symptoms... 

 

I am sure these things existed in some small segment of the population and now that they are becoming wide spread due to wd from ssri and other psych drugs... it gives us something to do to look up new words to align with our symptoms and read how why we have it ...never as a result of the drugs we took if you believe wiki and google except brain zaps that seems to be an original wd symptoms not aligned with other things.... a pure wd symptom. ps it is zaps were first talked about on the web as part of illegal drug withdrawal syndrome... Ecstasy was the drug if I recall correctly.. now it is ssri and ecstasy related 

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btdt

many other sites that are now closed talked this to death long ago as doctors did not believe us

 

Overstimulation and Increased Sensitivity to Light, Sound etc ...

survivingantidepressants.org › Support › Symptoms and self-care
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Aug 27, 2015 - Is anyone else over sensitive to stimulus, such as noise, movement and light? ... at all and I'm guessing that is why I'm so hypersensitive to stimulation .... Withdrawing from SSRI'sconfuses the balance of the serotonin system.

Exploding head syndrome or SSRI withdrawal? - Symptoms and self ...

survivingantidepressants.org › Support › Symptoms and self-care
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Apr 16, 2012 - 33 posts - ‎24 authors
EHS is named after the sound patients with the disorder perceive ... Such patients may also behypersensitive to formerly tolerable foods.

Antidepressants Facts: Surviving a Negative SSRI Reaction

www.antidepressantsfacts.com/reaction.htm
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Antidepressants Facts, Side-Effects & Safety: Surviving a Negative Reaction to an ... an extremehyper-sensitivity of the nervous system to light, sound, supplements, ... body, what means that you know when to withdraw and when to get active.

SSRI Withdrawal Effects Are Brutal and Long Lasting – Citizens ...

www.cchrflorida.org/ssri-withdrawal-effects-are-brutal-and-long-lasting/
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Psychiatrists are being forced to face the evidence that SSRI withdrawal .... gone now, but I still have stress intolerance, hypersensitivity to sounds and smells, ...

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powerback
11 hours ago, btdt said:

....

Antidepressants Facts: Surviving a Negative SSRI Reaction

www.antidepressantsfacts.com/reaction.htm

 

Antidepressants Facts, Side-Effects & Safety: Surviving a Negative Reaction to an ... an extremehyper-sensitivity of the nervous system to light, sound, supplements, ... body, what means that you know when to withdraw and when to get active.
...

Antidepressants Facts: Surviving a Negative SSRI Reaction

This is brilliant ,it should be printed and put on every wall in the house .

Thanks btdt

Edited by scallywag
trimmed quote to relevant portion

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emilie

Hi, i wonder if there is a link between taking or during withdrawal phase or after withdrawal antidepressant or benzodiazapine and misophonia?

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Neoisdaone

Hi, I found this post as I was searching through this site. I have suffered from Misophonia for most of my life.
However, it became more unbearable after my severe withdrawal from SSRI’s in 2012. 
Chewing sounds, among other triggers, will create this uncontrollable rage within me, to the point where I have to remove myself from the offender or I will lose my mind. This has affected my personal relationships as well as work & career aspirations.
I read in the previous posts about the fight-or-flight response, and I agree 100% that the SSRI withdrawal somehow messed with that part of my brain.

My main coping mechanism is to remove myself from the situation & avoid most people in general, as well as carrying earplugs wherever I go just in case.

 Misophonia is yet another monster we have to deal with on top of the SSRI withdrawal. My sympathy goes out to you.

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hayduke

I grew up somewhere really quiet.  The city got louder in the years after moving there, and once wds were underway it become intolerable much of the time.  I got noise cancelling headphones which helped, but moving back out of the city was my solution.  All I can hear right now with the window open is a bunch of bird calls.  Yay

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Boris

I'm similar and had a milder version of this problem until I other got older or went through withdrawal.

 

I am filled with so much rage when I hear people eating with excessive noise. It makes me feel guilty but I cannot handle the situation. I get it a lot with repetitive noises people make. Whistling/tapping etc

 

I moved away from the city and bought a terrace. I thought with it been an older house the walls would be thicker. I can hear everything my neighbours do and it drives me insane. Doesn't help they are not that considerate with their noise. Going through finally jumping off Paroxetine in this house has been challenging.

 

I really cannot tolerate noise. Like others have said it has affected my relationships. I sometimes suspect my tinnitus is due to the stress of dealing with the noise as it started around the same time. I miss the silence so much and I dream of buying a cabin in the woods.

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hayduke

I'm mostly less bugged by the ASMR style stuff, but thin walls are a version of hell - sooner or later someone unpleasant often shows up.  I made sure to find a place with a bit of space around it and feel very fortunate to be here.  I had a hunch to check the listings one afternoon when I was really tired last year and am super glad I did.  Go find that cabin @Boris :-)

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Boris
On 6/21/2020 at 9:45 AM, hayduke said:

I'm mostly less bugged by the ASMR style stuff, but thin walls are a version of hell - sooner or later someone unpleasant often shows up.  I made sure to find a place with a bit of space around it and feel very fortunate to be here.  I had a hunch to check the listings one afternoon when I was really tired last year and am super glad I did.  Go find that cabin @Boris :-)

 

oh I wish we had a bit more space in England!

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hayduke

I like bushwalking and touring, you never know what you'll come across.  You don't even need a reason to ramble...extensively :-)

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