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RachelSusan

@RusTW

 

Hi RusTW,

 

I have had really bad headaches and sinus problems while in the middle of withdrawal, but it was only during a bad withdrawal. I can't say it was at the beginning or any specific time during withdrawal, perhaps just the entire time. What about you? Is this something you have experienced?

 

I am glad you are starting to feel a little better overall.  I know you have your occasional wave but it does sound like you are doing pretty good, which I am very happy about.

 

I hope that we both continue to improve.

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RachelSusan

Journal Entry

 

I tapered 3.8% (went from 3.25mg of Zoloft to 3.125mg) thirteen days ago and I'm buzzing all over the place.  What I mean by that is those internal tremors or internal trembling, along with the feeling like I had way too much caffeine are back. Sort of nauseous and feeling like I have tons of adrenaline surging through my body as well. The insomnia is back as well. It will all pass but this tells me I have to reduce less or wait longer between cuts, or perhaps both.  I will see. This cut was four weeks after the previous cut, and after the previous cut I had very few symptoms and they were extremely low in intensity.  I have read that as we get into the lower doses it can be harder but I am already tapering such a low dose I thought I was safe. All I got to say about this is "ah shucks."  It's frustrating but I will survive. Life goes on and I am happy to be alive. 😀 Now please excuse me while I go take my hot bath filled with Epsom salt.🌼

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Altostrata

Oops. You might want to updose to 3.15mg or 3.20mg Zoloft and take a vacation from tapering for a few months.

 

What's your daily drug schedule?

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Tom37

Sorry to hear about the symptoms.🙁

 

You will get through this rough spot. You have helped me so much so you know what to do to get through it.

 

Maybe need a longer hold this time to let yourself settle right back down.

 

Enjoy that bath!

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wantrelief

I am sorry to hear about these uncomfortable sounding symptoms.  I hope they pass soon.  Hang in there, RS.

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Rosetta

Take care, RS.  I hope the bath helps! -R

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FarmGirlWorks
1 hour ago, RachelSusan said:

Now please excuse me while I go take my hot bath filled with Epsom salt.🌼

Dang it: I hope the cut symptoms disappear soon in to the WD ether. Or farm manure pit where they belong. Re: the bath, I always love adding some essential oils in to make it even more soothing... bergamot, frankincense, sage are favorites. Hang in there!

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RachelSusan

Hi Altostrata,

 

Thank you for taking your time to review my situation.

 

7 a.m.             QVAR Steroid Inhalant 1 puff (80mcg)

                        300 mg Gabapentin

 

8 a.m.             3.125mg liquid Zoloft

                        5mg Prednisone

                        Vitamin D - D3 1000IU (25mcg)

                        Fish Oil 360 mg

                        Calcium 500mg

                       

3 p.m.             300mg Gabapentin

                      

7 p.m.              QVAR Steroid Inhalant 1 puff (80mcg)           

           

11 p.m.            300 mg Gabapentin

                       

 

   

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RachelSusan

@Tom37 @wantrelief @Rosetta @FarmGirlWorks

 

Thank you all for stopping by, I really appreciate it.  While this is an unfortunate situation it is still nothing like when I went cold turkey. Not even close. I was one of those lucky ones that was able to reinstate and get relief.  This journey is now two and a half years old so I am used to these things.  Altostrata is reviewing my medications so I am in excellent hands. And as FGW says, may the symptoms go to the "farm manure pit where they belong." I like that one a lot. 😀

 

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Carmie

Hi RachelSusan, 

 

I’m really sorry your symptoms have ramped up. I’ve had to have holds longer than four weeks quite a number of times. Once you stabilise again and you start your tapering, maybe hold for longer than four weeks inbetween drops.

 

It’s a good idea to have a break from tapering for a few months, as Alto said, I’ve done that heaps of times too. It’s good for our emotional wellbeing too to have a break. Hope you stabilise soon, keep us updated. 

 

Sending hugs🤗

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RachelSusan

Hi Carmie,

 

Thanks for stopping by.  I do plan to take Alto's advice and take a break from tapering.  And then when I do resume again I will do as you suggested and hold for longer than fours weeks. I think over all I am doing pretty good in spite of my symptoms because I have been through this before so I don't have the fear factor that many people new to this have. I know it will pass.

 

I hope you are doing ok and that pesty Cog Fog is at a minimal for you.

 

Thanks again.

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Tom37

Hi Rachel,

 

Just checking in to see how your doing? Hopefully those symptoms of yours have settle in the last few days? Im sure your handling them fine as your are a WD veteran but i know any symptoms are not pleasant.

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RachelSusan

@Tom37

Hi Tom,

The withdrawal symptoms are almost gone. Days 10 through 18 of this taper were much more difficult than usual.  I have to listen to my body and slow down, even though I am already going at the pace of a three-toed sloth.  I guess I'll just have to go at the pace of the slowest garden snail now. Thanks for checking in.

Rachel

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Steve61

Hi Rachel. You are another great example of patience in tapering. I’ve reached a stage now where I am accepting that it’s going to be a long slow taper for myself and I’ve reached that acceptance by following examples like yourself. Thank you 🙏 

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RachelSusan

Thank you Steve61 for stopping by my thread. I appreciate your kind words. We will both make it off of the unwanted medications.  I am very sure of it.  

Warm wishes to you. 

Rachel

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Carmie

Hi RachelSusan, 

 

You made me smile. So you’re going from being a three toed sloth to the pace of the slowest garden snail?🐌🐌😁 I just started a taper yesterday of just over 3%. I’m with you in the snail department.🐌🐌 I may up it a little in the future, but I’ve decided for at least the next five tapers that’s what I’m doing. 

 

Sending hugs🤗

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RachelSusan

@Carmie

Hi Carmie,

I hate the fact that I am such a slow taper, but yep, snails pace is where I am at.  The sloth would be high speed for me. I wish you luck on your taper and will be watching your page to see how you do.

 

Speaking of watching your page, I see that you went to a concert.  I had never heard of "1927" so I looked them up.  I like them, a lot. Are you the same person that likes "Mental As Anything"?  Someone on this site likes them and I can't remember if it was you or not.  Another group I had never heard of and listed to after reading about them here. Liked them too.  See how great this site is, we get withdrawal advice along with good music suggestions. 

 

Thanks again for stopping by. And hugs back to you.

 

 

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Carmie

Hi RachelSusan, 

 

Yes, Im the same person that likes Mental As Anything too. I’ve seen them in concert twice. They’re  such a fun band, the music is so happy that you can’t help but smile and do a little dancing. Greedy Smith is the only original band member left, but he was one of the main singers anyway. Martin Plaza, the other main singer, was still in the band until a few years ago, he got cancer and he didn’t end up going back to the group. I don’t know if he will in the future. Greedy though loves what he does, he is just so much fun. He’s like a big kid, a bit like me.😄 I’m definitely going to see them again. 

 

I’m so glad you’re enjoying music. I love music🎹🥁🎼🎸 I’ve seen 1927 three times now, they were with Pseudo Echo twice, and with Belinda Carlisle last Saturday. I looooove Pseudo Echo. When I see them in concerts I can’t stop singing their songs for weeks afterwards. Actually, when I went to the Keith Urban concert not long ago, I couldn’t get his songs out of my head either. Music is good for the soul. Mental As Anything, Pseudo Echo and 1927 are all Australian bands. 

 

Keep playing that music💚

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RachelSusan

@Carmie

 

I really like Keith Urban. Some articles say he lives in Nashville USA and others say in Australia, so perhaps he splits his time between both places?  I guess it doesn't matter, it's not like he and Nicole are going to invite me over anytime soon.  Thanks for the music tips.  I do think Australia has some absolutely phenomenal bands, which I am learning about from you.  You are now my music guru.  🎶🎹🎺

 

Hugs back at ya.

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Carmie
3 minutes ago, RachelSusan said:

@Carmie

 

I really like Keith Urban. Some articles say he lives in Nashville USA and others say in Australia, so perhaps he splits his time between both places?  I guess it doesn't matter, it's not like he and Nicole are going to invite me over anytime soon.  Thanks for the music tips.  I do think Australia has some absolutely phenomenal bands, which I am learning about from you.  You are now my music guru.  🎶🎹🎺

 

Hugs back at ya.

 

You made me laugh RachelSusan, 

 

You never know, maybe they will invite you over some time🤣🤣. They live in Nashville, but come to Australia on holiday as they have property here too. Keith actually was brought up not too far from where I live. He’s really a down to earth nice guy, very Aussie. It’s great when fame doesn’t change people. 

 

Keep enjoying that music, it’s a great distraction 🎼💚

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Heal95

Hi RachelSusan. I have been reading through your intro. You are very strong and kind to offer support to others even though you have been through a lot. Thank you for your message on my intro. 

I hope we can get through withdrawals and live to tell the tale

 

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RachelSusan

@Heal95

Hello Heal95,

 

How are you doing today as compared to last week?  I know you are in the middle of it so I am aware that right now could be the most difficult time for you.  Do you have a support team or are you in a situation where it is best not to talk about it with others?  I had a few family members that were very supportive but beyond that I found it was best for me not to talk about it with many people as they really didn't understand it. Also talking only does so much.  It doesn't take away from the symptoms.

 

Thankfully I am getting through this ordeal quite alright.  The fact that I am not in the middle of a big withdrawal but only have a small amount of symptoms when I taper is for me  something to be quite happy about. I was able to do a reinstatement and it helped quite a bit. It wasn't perfect but much better. I do however get a little nervous every time I taper because I know that to many tapers which might be done just a little too quickly can be cumulative and then wham, I can get hit with a big set back. Currently at 3.125mg of this awful drug.

 

We will get through this because we have no other choice.  Time goes on and with time healing will occur naturally.

 

Thank you very much for stopping by.  I really appreciate it.

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Frogie

RachelSusan:

 

I just read that you had a birthday in February? Is that right?

 

I feel like such a bad person for not wishing you a very happy birthday.

 

So, I will now.

 

I hope you had the best birthday anyone could have going through wd 🎉🎉🎉🍦🍦🍦🍾🍾🍾🍰🍰🍰🎂🎂🎂🎊🎊🎊🎁🎁🎁🎈🎈🎈and you enjoyed yourself!🤗

 

Take care,

 Frogie xx

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RachelSusan

@Frogie

Frogie,

There is a mistake, no birthday in February for me. But don't get embarrassed, and I'll tell you why you shouldn't. Because you made me feel special and that made me happy. And the treats you sent me are fabulous.  Yum Yum, there goes my diet. I see three full cakes in addition to some already sliced up cake. Some champagne and a few other things. Thank you so much.  I highly recommend that everybody gets a random extra birthday because it feels so wonderful. 

 

Please keep us posted as to your nausea.  I know it will go away, I just want it to go away NOW.  Thinking of you....

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Frogie
11 minutes ago, RachelSusan said:

@Frogie

Frogie,

There is a mistake, no birthday in February for me. But don't get embarrassed, and I'll tell you why you shouldn't. Because you made me feel special and that made me happy. And the treats you sent me are fabulous.  Yum Yum, there goes my diet. I see three full cakes in addition to some already sliced up cake. Some champagne and a few other things. Thank you so much.  I highly recommend that everybody gets a random extra birthday because it feels so wonderful. 

 

Please keep us posted as to your nausea.  I know it will go away, I just want it to go away NOW.  Thinking of you....

I thought I read you had a birthday. My wd brain must be mush lol... glad you enjoyed it though. When is your birthday if I may ask?  I can’t even look at those treats or I’ll gain weight.

 

My nausea isn’t too bad this evening. It seems to hit as soon as I open my eyes and hangs around until late afternoon. Thanks, I want it to go away NOW also. 

 

I think of you often. You are a very kind person.

 

Thanks for thinking of me.

 

Take care,

 Frogie xx

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RachelSusan

I am getting ready to make a small cut tomorrow.  4.2% after a five week hold.  The last taper was fairly decent, however I do have a lot of fear every time I taper.  The fear is a lot worse than the actuality.  I will deal with my fear but I did want to mention it just because I have read that others on this site have it as well.  I think to recognize the fear but then act in rational manner is a healthy way to handle it.

 

I also read on this site that a lot of people are afraid they will get stuck in withdrawal.  That seems to be a universal fear and actually a very understandable fear. It's hard to believe you will recover when you feel so bad and it has been going on for so long. I had that fear as well.  I mention this as well because my hope is that if someone is living with this fear they will read my story and see that I have a lot of recovery and I did not get stuck. 

 

I send my support to all that are going through this terrible situation.  If anybody has any questions about my journey or are in need of support please feel free to write me on my thread here.  We are all in this together.

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wantrelief
4 hours ago, RachelSusan said:

I am getting ready to make a small cut tomorrow.  4.2% after a five week hold.  The last taper was fairly decent, however I do have a lot of fear every time I taper.  The fear is a lot worse than the actuality.  I will deal with my fear but I did want to mention it just because I have read that others on this site have it as well.  I think to recognize the fear but then act in rational manner is a healthy way to handle it.

 

I also read on this site that a lot of people are afraid they will get stuck in withdrawal.

I wanted to wish you all the best for your taper tomorrow.  I am glad to hear your last cut went well.  I do share both fears you mentioned, mostly because I am tapering from a destabilized place (maybe due to tolerance) so every time I cut down I fear my symptoms are going to get even worse.  Anyway, you are not alone having to conquer fear with your cuts but there is no reason to believe this one won't go as well as all of the others you have made.  You are getting really low on Zoloft and should be so proud of how far you have come!

 

We are indeed all in this together!

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RachelSusan

@wantrelief

Hi wantrelief,

What a nice post to read. Thank you so much. It is indeed a difficult journey for all of us.  And I do feel a sense of community there.  I appreciate your kind response.

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Frogie
6 hours ago, RachelSusan said:

I am getting ready to make a small cut tomorrow.  4.2% after a five week hold.  The last taper was fairly decent, however I do have a lot of fear every time I taper.  The fear is a lot worse than the actuality.  I will deal with my fear but I did want to mention it just because I have read that others on this site have it as well.  I think to recognize the fear but then act in rational manner is a healthy way to handle it.

 

I also read on this site that a lot of people are afraid they will get stuck in withdrawal.  That seems to be a universal fear and actually a very understandable fear. It's hard to believe you will recover when you feel so bad and it has been going on for so long. I had that fear as well.  I mention this as well because my hope is that if someone is living with this fear they will read my story and see that I have a lot of recovery and I did not get stuck. 

 

I send my support to all that are going through this terrible situation.  If anybody has any questions about my journey or are in need of support please feel free to write me on my thread here.  We are all in this together.

Good luck!

 I’m doing a happy dance for you 💃

Take care,

 Frogie xx

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RachelSusan

Time to check in.  Last taper went very well. Days 9 through 15 I had symptoms but they were very minor, almost non existent. Down to 2.875 mg of Zoloft.   I have to say, this has been a long, slow, nasty ordeal, but I am doing it. 

 

Thank you to all who have helped me along the way.

 

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Just now, RachelSusan said:

Time to check in.  Last taper went very well. Days 9 through 15 I had symptoms but they were very minor, almost non existent. Down to 2.875 mg of Zoloft.   I have to say, this has been a long, slow, nasty ordeal, but I am doing it. 

 

Thank you to all who have helped me along the way.

 

I’m so happy to hear you are doing so well. I know how hard it is.

 

You are doing wonderful!

 

Take care,

 Frogie xx

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Dejavu

I'm so glad to hear that you continue to do so well. I have wondered how you've been getting along. You've been more help to me than you will ever know. I wish only the very best for you!

 

 

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Carmie

Hi RachelSusan, 

 

Nice to hear you’ve been doing okay, you’re doing amazing! Can’t wait until I get down as low as you. 

 

Sending hugs your way🤗

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RachelSusan

@Dejavu

Hi Dejavu,

 

It was really nice of you to stop by.  I can't begin to tell you how much I appreciate it.  Yes I am doing pretty good.  I've come such a long way.  All with the help of this site and a lot of patience.  Patience I never had before.

 

I follow your thread and I am sorry you are going through a difficult time.  You have come a long way in healing since you first started posting.  You are correct though in saying that it is cruel to have a window then have it snatched away.  I also fear going back to where I was at the beginning.  Every time I taper and get a few mild symptoms I worry that the whole thing is starting over.  Withdrawal is indeed is a very traumatizing experience.

 

I believe that you will heal and your awful symptoms will be a thing of the past.  For now you just have to get through each day and give it more time. 

 

Thank you again for stopping by and being so kind.

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RachelSusan

@Carmie

 

Hello Carmie, my music and beach loving friend.  Thank you for stopping by.  I am indeed thrilled to be so low. I always keep thinking that I can't wait to get to a certain number and then when I get there I can't wait to get to another number.  I remember thinking I couldn't wait to get below 3mg but now I am thinking I can't wait to get below 2mg. Patience has been hard for me but I have learned when I try and rush it I always end up paying a price.

 

As for your numbers, you have come such a long way. I know we all have the drive to get off and you aren't where you want to be yet, but still you are amazing. 300mg down to 6.75mg, all while living with CFS. WOW!!!!  I follow your thread and you remain an inspiration to me.

 

Thank you for all you do on this site for others, and that includes me as well. 😀

 

xo

 

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Carmie

Hi RachelSusan, 

 

Just popping in to see how you’re doing. I’m glad you’re continuing to practice patience despite it being hard.💚

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