peng Posted June 3, 2018 Author Share Posted June 3, 2018 Many thanks for that, brassmonkey. Grateful to you. Born 1945. 1999 - First Effexor/Venlafaxine. 2016 Withdrawal research. Effexor. 13Jul - 212.5mg; 6Aug - 200.0mg; 24Aug - 187.5mg; 13Sep - 175.0mg; 3Oct - 162.5mg; 26Oct - 150mg 2017 9Jan - 150.00mg; 23Mar - 137.50mg; 24Apr - 125.00mg; 31May - 112.50mg holding; 3Sep - 100.00mg; 20Sep - 93.75mg; 20Oct - 87.5mg; 12Nov - 81.25mg; 13 Dec - 75.00mg 2018 18Jan - 69.1mg; 16Feb - 62.5mg; 16March - 57.5mg (-8%); 22Apr - 56.3mg(-2%); CRASHED - Updose 29May - 62.5mg; Updose - 1Jul - 75.0mg. Updose - 2Aug - 87.5mg. Updose - 27Aug - 100.0mg. Updose - 11Oct 112.5mg. Updose - 6Nov 125.00mg. 2019 Updoses 19 Jan - 150.0mg. 1April - 162.5mg. 24 April - Feeling better - doing tasks, getting outside. 7 May - usual depression questionnaire gives "probably no depression" result. Supps/Vits Omega 3; Chelated Magnesium; Prebiotics/Probiotics, Vit D3. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted June 3, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted June 3, 2018 I've moved your posts to your Intro topic which will keep your history in one place and also keep the other topic "on topic". * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
peng Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 Good call, of course, ChessieCat. Many thanks. Born 1945. 1999 - First Effexor/Venlafaxine. 2016 Withdrawal research. Effexor. 13Jul - 212.5mg; 6Aug - 200.0mg; 24Aug - 187.5mg; 13Sep - 175.0mg; 3Oct - 162.5mg; 26Oct - 150mg 2017 9Jan - 150.00mg; 23Mar - 137.50mg; 24Apr - 125.00mg; 31May - 112.50mg holding; 3Sep - 100.00mg; 20Sep - 93.75mg; 20Oct - 87.5mg; 12Nov - 81.25mg; 13 Dec - 75.00mg 2018 18Jan - 69.1mg; 16Feb - 62.5mg; 16March - 57.5mg (-8%); 22Apr - 56.3mg(-2%); CRASHED - Updose 29May - 62.5mg; Updose - 1Jul - 75.0mg. Updose - 2Aug - 87.5mg. Updose - 27Aug - 100.0mg. Updose - 11Oct 112.5mg. Updose - 6Nov 125.00mg. 2019 Updoses 19 Jan - 150.0mg. 1April - 162.5mg. 24 April - Feeling better - doing tasks, getting outside. 7 May - usual depression questionnaire gives "probably no depression" result. Supps/Vits Omega 3; Chelated Magnesium; Prebiotics/Probiotics, Vit D3. Link to comment
peng Posted June 20, 2018 Author Share Posted June 20, 2018 OK, worst depression/slight anxiety for over two years has kicked in. Feeling weepy right now. Summing up last two years: Effexor XR June 2016 - 225mg (found SA) June 2017 - 112.5mg (taper, no more than 10%, holding as required) 28th May 2018 - 56.3mg (taper/holds as above). Feeling LOW. 29th May - had to updose to 62.5mg (+11%). 56.3 and 62.5mg are the lowest doses I have been on since March 2006. (12 years) 19th/20th June 2018 - worst depression for over two years. I expect I need to stabilise for as long as it takes, folks? Maybe I need to consider the quality of life value? My diaries and journals show I had a reasonable quality of life most of the period 2002- until April this year, mostly when taking the prescribed effexor 75 - 150mg. I do not want to travel anywhere or go wild camping - a great passion, nor do I indulge in many of my other interests and pastimes I used to (anhedonia?). Only gardening and watching the World Cup on tv hold my interests. I will be 73 next week. When I was 9 in 1954, I heard my father dying in the house (spontaneous pneumothorax). I worked very irregular shifts in a busy job 1964-1977 then my health collapsed in 1977 (I was 32). Knowing what we know now about childhood PTSD, circadian rhythms, etc. I suppose I was lucky to get that far. I know this is a site for people wanting to go off antidepressants, and I respect that. Cutting down from 225mg to less that 75mg with SA's guidance has been an immense, satisfying achievement, but perhaps I have to be realistic about what is best for me and those closest to me. I went down to zero in a too-fast taper in 2006 and crashed. Any advice and comments welcome on my thread or by pm. Born 1945. 1999 - First Effexor/Venlafaxine. 2016 Withdrawal research. Effexor. 13Jul - 212.5mg; 6Aug - 200.0mg; 24Aug - 187.5mg; 13Sep - 175.0mg; 3Oct - 162.5mg; 26Oct - 150mg 2017 9Jan - 150.00mg; 23Mar - 137.50mg; 24Apr - 125.00mg; 31May - 112.50mg holding; 3Sep - 100.00mg; 20Sep - 93.75mg; 20Oct - 87.5mg; 12Nov - 81.25mg; 13 Dec - 75.00mg 2018 18Jan - 69.1mg; 16Feb - 62.5mg; 16March - 57.5mg (-8%); 22Apr - 56.3mg(-2%); CRASHED - Updose 29May - 62.5mg; Updose - 1Jul - 75.0mg. Updose - 2Aug - 87.5mg. Updose - 27Aug - 100.0mg. Updose - 11Oct 112.5mg. Updose - 6Nov 125.00mg. 2019 Updoses 19 Jan - 150.0mg. 1April - 162.5mg. 24 April - Feeling better - doing tasks, getting outside. 7 May - usual depression questionnaire gives "probably no depression" result. Supps/Vits Omega 3; Chelated Magnesium; Prebiotics/Probiotics, Vit D3. Link to comment
bubbles Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Hello Peng Hopefully a mod will be by soon to offer you some suggestions. In the meantime I just wanted to send you virtual hugs. I'm so sorry that you're feeling unwell. Hugs B 2005 St John's Wort / 2006-2012 Lexapro 20mg, 2 failed attempts to stop, tapered over 4.5 months in early 2012 January 2013 started Sertraline, over time worked up to 100mg July 2014 Sertraline dropped from 100mg to 75mg, held for six months, slower tapering until 2019 22 Dec 3.2mg 2020 Sertraline 19 Jan 3.1mg, 26 Jan 3.0mg; 1 Mar 2.9, 7 Mar 2.8, May (some drops here) 24 May 2.5, May 29 2.4, June 21 2.3, June 28 2.2mg, July 4 2.1mg, July 24 (or maybe a bit before) 2mg, early Nov switched to home made suspension; 29 Nov 1.8mg; approx 25 Dec 1.6mg) 2021 Some time in about Jan/Feb realised probably on more like 1.8mg and poss mixing error in making suspension; doses after 10 Feb accurate; 10 Feb 1.6mg; 7 Mar 1.4, continued monthly 10% drops until 1mg, then dropped 0.1mg monthly. May 2022,0.1mg, now dropping 0.01mg per week 29 August 2022 - first day of zero! My thread here at SA: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/1775-bubbles/page/21/ Current: Armour Thyroid Link to comment
peng Posted June 20, 2018 Author Share Posted June 20, 2018 Thanks bubbles - appreciate it! Born 1945. 1999 - First Effexor/Venlafaxine. 2016 Withdrawal research. Effexor. 13Jul - 212.5mg; 6Aug - 200.0mg; 24Aug - 187.5mg; 13Sep - 175.0mg; 3Oct - 162.5mg; 26Oct - 150mg 2017 9Jan - 150.00mg; 23Mar - 137.50mg; 24Apr - 125.00mg; 31May - 112.50mg holding; 3Sep - 100.00mg; 20Sep - 93.75mg; 20Oct - 87.5mg; 12Nov - 81.25mg; 13 Dec - 75.00mg 2018 18Jan - 69.1mg; 16Feb - 62.5mg; 16March - 57.5mg (-8%); 22Apr - 56.3mg(-2%); CRASHED - Updose 29May - 62.5mg; Updose - 1Jul - 75.0mg. Updose - 2Aug - 87.5mg. Updose - 27Aug - 100.0mg. Updose - 11Oct 112.5mg. Updose - 6Nov 125.00mg. 2019 Updoses 19 Jan - 150.0mg. 1April - 162.5mg. 24 April - Feeling better - doing tasks, getting outside. 7 May - usual depression questionnaire gives "probably no depression" result. Supps/Vits Omega 3; Chelated Magnesium; Prebiotics/Probiotics, Vit D3. Link to comment
wildchild93 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Hope you start to feel better soon. I’m at 121mg effexor currently and feeling very emotional like I could cry at any moment. Can only dream of getting to 75mg one day. That is a HUGE achievement. 6 years old- 23 years old Effexor XR 75-150mg March-May 2017 3-month taper of Effexor XR from 150mg down to 37.5 and then 0. After a week reinstated Effexor at 37.5 and quickly worked your way up to 150. Mid-May increased to 187.5. End of July to mid-October switched to 50-200mg Zoloft Nov. to present switched back to Effexor 75 mg March 29, 2018 Increased Effexor dose to 150mg (original dose). May 12, 2018 Began a 10% AT LEAST monthly taper off of 150mg Effexor XR. Link to comment
peng Posted June 20, 2018 Author Share Posted June 20, 2018 Best wishes, wildchild93, you deserve some relief. Hopefully, 5-10% taper from 150mg, holding when your body tells you, will yield achievement. Born 1945. 1999 - First Effexor/Venlafaxine. 2016 Withdrawal research. Effexor. 13Jul - 212.5mg; 6Aug - 200.0mg; 24Aug - 187.5mg; 13Sep - 175.0mg; 3Oct - 162.5mg; 26Oct - 150mg 2017 9Jan - 150.00mg; 23Mar - 137.50mg; 24Apr - 125.00mg; 31May - 112.50mg holding; 3Sep - 100.00mg; 20Sep - 93.75mg; 20Oct - 87.5mg; 12Nov - 81.25mg; 13 Dec - 75.00mg 2018 18Jan - 69.1mg; 16Feb - 62.5mg; 16March - 57.5mg (-8%); 22Apr - 56.3mg(-2%); CRASHED - Updose 29May - 62.5mg; Updose - 1Jul - 75.0mg. Updose - 2Aug - 87.5mg. Updose - 27Aug - 100.0mg. Updose - 11Oct 112.5mg. Updose - 6Nov 125.00mg. 2019 Updoses 19 Jan - 150.0mg. 1April - 162.5mg. 24 April - Feeling better - doing tasks, getting outside. 7 May - usual depression questionnaire gives "probably no depression" result. Supps/Vits Omega 3; Chelated Magnesium; Prebiotics/Probiotics, Vit D3. Link to comment
Daisy Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 May I ask how bad the depression is? Are you feeling like you can not take living this way and want out to the point where you are seriously suicidal or having suicidal ideas? If so, it is not worth it and it does not change anything for the better. I am truly sorry you are feeling so depressed. But please ask yourself, have I had some good or at least okay days? Sometimes when we are in a bad place, we think we are going to be there forever and it will never stop. But look back at some of your posts or ask your a person you are close to if you have at least an okay day. Then just let time pass till you once again have a good day, an okay day, hour, minute and even 30 seconds of light. 🌻 Effexor XL 2009-2012. CT 150mg Effexor XR 2012, Effexor XR 75mg 2012 then rapid taper to 0, Reinstated Effexor XR 13mg then updosed to 20mg, Tapered to 18mg Effexor XR 4/9/12, Off Effexor XL ?Reinstated Effexor XL 150 mgs August 2012, Crashed in November 2012, Prozac 40 mgs 2012 to Feb 2018, Buspar 60 mgs 2012-stopped 2015, Remeron 7.5 mgs as needed for sleep-stopped Feb 2017, Prozac 50 mgs Feb 2018 to March 2018, Lexapro 5 mgs March 18 2018 to May 17th 2018, Lexapro 2.5 mgs May 18th to May 26th 2018, Prozac 10 mgs May 15th 2018, Prozac 5 mgs May 19th 2018 to current day May 28th 2018, Xanax 0.25 mgs to 0.5 mgs daily for over 15 years. Increased Xanax to 1.5 mgs Sept 2012, Tapered Xanax to 0 mgs May 2013.Reinstated Xanax Feb 2017 at 0.125 mgs as needed, Gradual increase of Xanax to 1.5 mgs daily till May 22nd 2018, Xanax 1.25 mgs daily. Holding Link to comment
peng Posted June 20, 2018 Author Share Posted June 20, 2018 Not as seriously bad as what you suggest, Daisy. I have been here several times before in the past. I can suffer OK. Just gonna hold at 62.5mg if I can. If I have to updose, so be it. Born 1945. 1999 - First Effexor/Venlafaxine. 2016 Withdrawal research. Effexor. 13Jul - 212.5mg; 6Aug - 200.0mg; 24Aug - 187.5mg; 13Sep - 175.0mg; 3Oct - 162.5mg; 26Oct - 150mg 2017 9Jan - 150.00mg; 23Mar - 137.50mg; 24Apr - 125.00mg; 31May - 112.50mg holding; 3Sep - 100.00mg; 20Sep - 93.75mg; 20Oct - 87.5mg; 12Nov - 81.25mg; 13 Dec - 75.00mg 2018 18Jan - 69.1mg; 16Feb - 62.5mg; 16March - 57.5mg (-8%); 22Apr - 56.3mg(-2%); CRASHED - Updose 29May - 62.5mg; Updose - 1Jul - 75.0mg. Updose - 2Aug - 87.5mg. Updose - 27Aug - 100.0mg. Updose - 11Oct 112.5mg. Updose - 6Nov 125.00mg. 2019 Updoses 19 Jan - 150.0mg. 1April - 162.5mg. 24 April - Feeling better - doing tasks, getting outside. 7 May - usual depression questionnaire gives "probably no depression" result. Supps/Vits Omega 3; Chelated Magnesium; Prebiotics/Probiotics, Vit D3. Link to comment
powerback Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Sorry to hear about this depression Peng it so dam insidious ,you are far from alone but that can be little help when going through the throws of it ,try to keep a light constantly in your heart and constantly bring your mind to gardening or something that distracts . Get your walks in nature when you can ,even force yourself if you have to but I know from experience even the birds and the noise of the trees blowing in the wind can be to much . Take care and sending healing vibes across the water .there even talking about a bridge from Belfast I hear lately . Alcohol free since February 2015 1MG diazepam 4.5MG PROZAC. Link to comment
peng Posted June 22, 2018 Author Share Posted June 22, 2018 Appreciate your sympathetic thoughts, pb. Good of you to take time for that despite your own troubles. Best wishes to you, too, for better health. Born 1945. 1999 - First Effexor/Venlafaxine. 2016 Withdrawal research. Effexor. 13Jul - 212.5mg; 6Aug - 200.0mg; 24Aug - 187.5mg; 13Sep - 175.0mg; 3Oct - 162.5mg; 26Oct - 150mg 2017 9Jan - 150.00mg; 23Mar - 137.50mg; 24Apr - 125.00mg; 31May - 112.50mg holding; 3Sep - 100.00mg; 20Sep - 93.75mg; 20Oct - 87.5mg; 12Nov - 81.25mg; 13 Dec - 75.00mg 2018 18Jan - 69.1mg; 16Feb - 62.5mg; 16March - 57.5mg (-8%); 22Apr - 56.3mg(-2%); CRASHED - Updose 29May - 62.5mg; Updose - 1Jul - 75.0mg. Updose - 2Aug - 87.5mg. Updose - 27Aug - 100.0mg. Updose - 11Oct 112.5mg. Updose - 6Nov 125.00mg. 2019 Updoses 19 Jan - 150.0mg. 1April - 162.5mg. 24 April - Feeling better - doing tasks, getting outside. 7 May - usual depression questionnaire gives "probably no depression" result. Supps/Vits Omega 3; Chelated Magnesium; Prebiotics/Probiotics, Vit D3. Link to comment
powerback Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, peng said: Appreciate your sympathetic thoughts, pb. Good of you to take time for that despite your own troubles. Best wishes to you, too, for better health. Of course Peng , I empethise deeply with PTSD from our past and then what this journey brings us . Take care. Alcohol free since February 2015 1MG diazepam 4.5MG PROZAC. Link to comment
Daisy Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 On 6/20/2018 at 1:56 PM, peng said: Not as seriously bad as what you suggest, Daisy. I have been here several times before in the past. I can suffer OK. Just gonna hold at 62.5mg if I can. If I have to updose, so be it. Take care Peng and be good to your self. You can do this and get through this storm. You are strong. It will get better, Just let time pass and " Keep On Keeping On. Effexor XL 2009-2012. CT 150mg Effexor XR 2012, Effexor XR 75mg 2012 then rapid taper to 0, Reinstated Effexor XR 13mg then updosed to 20mg, Tapered to 18mg Effexor XR 4/9/12, Off Effexor XL ?Reinstated Effexor XL 150 mgs August 2012, Crashed in November 2012, Prozac 40 mgs 2012 to Feb 2018, Buspar 60 mgs 2012-stopped 2015, Remeron 7.5 mgs as needed for sleep-stopped Feb 2017, Prozac 50 mgs Feb 2018 to March 2018, Lexapro 5 mgs March 18 2018 to May 17th 2018, Lexapro 2.5 mgs May 18th to May 26th 2018, Prozac 10 mgs May 15th 2018, Prozac 5 mgs May 19th 2018 to current day May 28th 2018, Xanax 0.25 mgs to 0.5 mgs daily for over 15 years. Increased Xanax to 1.5 mgs Sept 2012, Tapered Xanax to 0 mgs May 2013.Reinstated Xanax Feb 2017 at 0.125 mgs as needed, Gradual increase of Xanax to 1.5 mgs daily till May 22nd 2018, Xanax 1.25 mgs daily. Holding Link to comment
peng Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share Posted June 25, 2018 Wow - what a relief. Felt very slighty less low and anxious yesterday. Today even better. I feel a window has moved in. For the record, I have been holding at 62.5mg for 28 days. Thanks for message and sweet sounds from Curtis M, Daisy. Right up my street as we say. I am old enough to remember his version of the song when it first came out. Born 1945. 1999 - First Effexor/Venlafaxine. 2016 Withdrawal research. Effexor. 13Jul - 212.5mg; 6Aug - 200.0mg; 24Aug - 187.5mg; 13Sep - 175.0mg; 3Oct - 162.5mg; 26Oct - 150mg 2017 9Jan - 150.00mg; 23Mar - 137.50mg; 24Apr - 125.00mg; 31May - 112.50mg holding; 3Sep - 100.00mg; 20Sep - 93.75mg; 20Oct - 87.5mg; 12Nov - 81.25mg; 13 Dec - 75.00mg 2018 18Jan - 69.1mg; 16Feb - 62.5mg; 16March - 57.5mg (-8%); 22Apr - 56.3mg(-2%); CRASHED - Updose 29May - 62.5mg; Updose - 1Jul - 75.0mg. Updose - 2Aug - 87.5mg. Updose - 27Aug - 100.0mg. Updose - 11Oct 112.5mg. Updose - 6Nov 125.00mg. 2019 Updoses 19 Jan - 150.0mg. 1April - 162.5mg. 24 April - Feeling better - doing tasks, getting outside. 7 May - usual depression questionnaire gives "probably no depression" result. Supps/Vits Omega 3; Chelated Magnesium; Prebiotics/Probiotics, Vit D3. Link to comment
wantrelief Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Very happy to hear you are feeling better, Peng! -1/06 - 3/07 Cymbalta. Fast taper (essentially CT); withdrawal symptoms after 4 mos (didn't realize was WD) -10/07: 100 mg Zoloft; 1 mg Klonopin - tapered off Klonopin after 4 mos. Several unsuccessful slow tapers of Zoloft; went up and down in dose a lot -Spring 2013 back on 1 mg Klonopin to counter WD symptoms; switched over 5-6 mos from Zoloft to 35 mg citalopram -Two attempts at slow tapering citalopram, always increased dose due to WD; also increased Klonopin to 1.25 mg in 2014, then to 1.5 mg in 2015 -8/17-9/17: After holding one year at 20 mg, feeling withdrawal symptoms due to stress - slowly increased to 25 mg. No change in symptoms after 6 months (? tolerance ?) - decided to start citalopram taper February 2018 (still on Klonopin 1.5 mg). Supplements: fish oil; magnesium; vitamin D3; curcumin Citalopram taper: 2/2018 - 12/2019: 25 mg - 11.03 mg I 2020: 10.89 mg - 7.9 mg I 2021: 7.8 mg - 5.26 mg I 2022: 5.2 mg - 3.36 mg I 2023: 3.3 mg - 1.47 mg 2024: 1/5/24: 1.44 mg; 1/19/24: 1.40 mg; 1/26/24: 1.37 mg; 2/2/24: 1.34 mg; 2/9/24: 1.31 mg; 2/23/24: 1.28 mg; 3/1/24: 1.25 mg; 3/8/24: 1.22 mg; 3/15/24: 1.19 mg Link to comment
peng Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 Thanks, wantrelief, good luck with the taper of your stuff, I see in your signature. Born 1945. 1999 - First Effexor/Venlafaxine. 2016 Withdrawal research. Effexor. 13Jul - 212.5mg; 6Aug - 200.0mg; 24Aug - 187.5mg; 13Sep - 175.0mg; 3Oct - 162.5mg; 26Oct - 150mg 2017 9Jan - 150.00mg; 23Mar - 137.50mg; 24Apr - 125.00mg; 31May - 112.50mg holding; 3Sep - 100.00mg; 20Sep - 93.75mg; 20Oct - 87.5mg; 12Nov - 81.25mg; 13 Dec - 75.00mg 2018 18Jan - 69.1mg; 16Feb - 62.5mg; 16March - 57.5mg (-8%); 22Apr - 56.3mg(-2%); CRASHED - Updose 29May - 62.5mg; Updose - 1Jul - 75.0mg. Updose - 2Aug - 87.5mg. Updose - 27Aug - 100.0mg. Updose - 11Oct 112.5mg. Updose - 6Nov 125.00mg. 2019 Updoses 19 Jan - 150.0mg. 1April - 162.5mg. 24 April - Feeling better - doing tasks, getting outside. 7 May - usual depression questionnaire gives "probably no depression" result. Supps/Vits Omega 3; Chelated Magnesium; Prebiotics/Probiotics, Vit D3. Link to comment
peng Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 Previously (20th June 2018) ".......I am feeling a bit low the last 4 days after having to updose to 62.5mg Effexor XL after a mainly trouble-free taper (after finding SA) from 225mg [to 56.3mg] over the past two years. Hope not to upset [anyone] of the "this site is for folks wanting to come off ADs" mantra, but I fear that at almost 73 yo I even may have to updose a bit more, as I now realise I prize quality of life more than getting completely off this med. The obsession of getting to "zero" [with a broad-brush obsessional hatred of the health service] I can see means that [several people] are suffering hell on earth every living day. Browsing my journal notes/Flickr photos for the past c40 years makes me realise I did a lot of active things and enjoyed life, even when I was on up to 100-225mg of Effexor during most of this millenium. What do you think? ..........Clearly, from SA threads worded like "are you glad you came off meds?" means some of us are destined not to. Fighting gets harder when you are old and you want to enjoy life a bit and see your granddaughter growing up, etc...." Warmest regards Six days ago when I felt low and dispirited and that the two-year taper just hit by the need for an updose was not working, I sent this email (above, edited) to one of our esteemed mods. I include it here in my thread just to demonstrate the fickleness of our moods in WD, and also to try and inspire those of you in tapering WD, like myself, who may hit a very tough spell. (In my case, worst for 2 years). Now, in a better frame of mind and having stabilised (I hope), it may give food for thought. The main thing, of course, is that due to the nature of the beast with which we are dealing, as long as there is life, there seems to be hope, if one is well-disciplined in this incredibly difficult journey we are all on. Hoping you all find encouragement and good things awaiting round the corner. Maybe I am just voicing the close held thoughts of others? Patience, people, above all, perhaps. Love, peng. Born 1945. 1999 - First Effexor/Venlafaxine. 2016 Withdrawal research. Effexor. 13Jul - 212.5mg; 6Aug - 200.0mg; 24Aug - 187.5mg; 13Sep - 175.0mg; 3Oct - 162.5mg; 26Oct - 150mg 2017 9Jan - 150.00mg; 23Mar - 137.50mg; 24Apr - 125.00mg; 31May - 112.50mg holding; 3Sep - 100.00mg; 20Sep - 93.75mg; 20Oct - 87.5mg; 12Nov - 81.25mg; 13 Dec - 75.00mg 2018 18Jan - 69.1mg; 16Feb - 62.5mg; 16March - 57.5mg (-8%); 22Apr - 56.3mg(-2%); CRASHED - Updose 29May - 62.5mg; Updose - 1Jul - 75.0mg. Updose - 2Aug - 87.5mg. Updose - 27Aug - 100.0mg. Updose - 11Oct 112.5mg. Updose - 6Nov 125.00mg. 2019 Updoses 19 Jan - 150.0mg. 1April - 162.5mg. 24 April - Feeling better - doing tasks, getting outside. 7 May - usual depression questionnaire gives "probably no depression" result. Supps/Vits Omega 3; Chelated Magnesium; Prebiotics/Probiotics, Vit D3. Link to comment
powerback Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 HI Peng reading this pulled on my heart ,your so brave and maybe in many years to come your grandkids can see this for themselves if they ever become aware of your journey and help them in there own troubles on any kind if it darkens there door. Your paving the way for so many that youl never even realise . Take care peng and keep strong . Alcohol free since February 2015 1MG diazepam 4.5MG PROZAC. Link to comment
peng Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 Well, that's a nice post, pb - appreciate your thoughts, many thanks. Keep strong and remain the vital member of SA you are. Born 1945. 1999 - First Effexor/Venlafaxine. 2016 Withdrawal research. Effexor. 13Jul - 212.5mg; 6Aug - 200.0mg; 24Aug - 187.5mg; 13Sep - 175.0mg; 3Oct - 162.5mg; 26Oct - 150mg 2017 9Jan - 150.00mg; 23Mar - 137.50mg; 24Apr - 125.00mg; 31May - 112.50mg holding; 3Sep - 100.00mg; 20Sep - 93.75mg; 20Oct - 87.5mg; 12Nov - 81.25mg; 13 Dec - 75.00mg 2018 18Jan - 69.1mg; 16Feb - 62.5mg; 16March - 57.5mg (-8%); 22Apr - 56.3mg(-2%); CRASHED - Updose 29May - 62.5mg; Updose - 1Jul - 75.0mg. Updose - 2Aug - 87.5mg. Updose - 27Aug - 100.0mg. Updose - 11Oct 112.5mg. Updose - 6Nov 125.00mg. 2019 Updoses 19 Jan - 150.0mg. 1April - 162.5mg. 24 April - Feeling better - doing tasks, getting outside. 7 May - usual depression questionnaire gives "probably no depression" result. Supps/Vits Omega 3; Chelated Magnesium; Prebiotics/Probiotics, Vit D3. Link to comment
Daisy Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 I found Effexor XL a difficult drug to get off of. My sympathies Peng. Keep on Keeping On. You can do this. I failed and ended up on Prozac, Buspar and Remeron 7.5 mgs as needed for sleep. I attempted to take my own life in 2012. It was not worth it and I ended up hating myself for my weakness and for messing up my life. I thought others looked down at me for a very long time. I am recovering my self esteem, but it is taking a long time and very many visits to a therapist. Hang in there and stay strong. Your family needs you and loves you for your determination. Have you thought of bridging with a long acting antidepressant such as Prozac? Just a thought..... I am not an expert or give medical advise. 🌻 Effexor XL 2009-2012. CT 150mg Effexor XR 2012, Effexor XR 75mg 2012 then rapid taper to 0, Reinstated Effexor XR 13mg then updosed to 20mg, Tapered to 18mg Effexor XR 4/9/12, Off Effexor XL ?Reinstated Effexor XL 150 mgs August 2012, Crashed in November 2012, Prozac 40 mgs 2012 to Feb 2018, Buspar 60 mgs 2012-stopped 2015, Remeron 7.5 mgs as needed for sleep-stopped Feb 2017, Prozac 50 mgs Feb 2018 to March 2018, Lexapro 5 mgs March 18 2018 to May 17th 2018, Lexapro 2.5 mgs May 18th to May 26th 2018, Prozac 10 mgs May 15th 2018, Prozac 5 mgs May 19th 2018 to current day May 28th 2018, Xanax 0.25 mgs to 0.5 mgs daily for over 15 years. Increased Xanax to 1.5 mgs Sept 2012, Tapered Xanax to 0 mgs May 2013.Reinstated Xanax Feb 2017 at 0.125 mgs as needed, Gradual increase of Xanax to 1.5 mgs daily till May 22nd 2018, Xanax 1.25 mgs daily. Holding Link to comment
bubbles Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Quote Hope not to upset [anyone] of the "this site is for folks wanting to come off ADs" mantra, but I fear that at almost 73 yo I even may have to updose a bit more, as I now realise I prize quality of life more than getting completely off this med. The obsession of getting to "zero" [with a broad-brush obsessional hatred of the health service] I can see means that [several people] are suffering hell on earth every living day. I'm sorry you've had such a bad wave, peng, and very glad that you are doing better now. 2005 St John's Wort / 2006-2012 Lexapro 20mg, 2 failed attempts to stop, tapered over 4.5 months in early 2012 January 2013 started Sertraline, over time worked up to 100mg July 2014 Sertraline dropped from 100mg to 75mg, held for six months, slower tapering until 2019 22 Dec 3.2mg 2020 Sertraline 19 Jan 3.1mg, 26 Jan 3.0mg; 1 Mar 2.9, 7 Mar 2.8, May (some drops here) 24 May 2.5, May 29 2.4, June 21 2.3, June 28 2.2mg, July 4 2.1mg, July 24 (or maybe a bit before) 2mg, early Nov switched to home made suspension; 29 Nov 1.8mg; approx 25 Dec 1.6mg) 2021 Some time in about Jan/Feb realised probably on more like 1.8mg and poss mixing error in making suspension; doses after 10 Feb accurate; 10 Feb 1.6mg; 7 Mar 1.4, continued monthly 10% drops until 1mg, then dropped 0.1mg monthly. May 2022,0.1mg, now dropping 0.01mg per week 29 August 2022 - first day of zero! My thread here at SA: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/1775-bubbles/page/21/ Current: Armour Thyroid Link to comment
peng Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 Many thanks Daisy & bubbles for your kind sentiments and your honest posts. Good luck with your own missions! Love peng Born 1945. 1999 - First Effexor/Venlafaxine. 2016 Withdrawal research. Effexor. 13Jul - 212.5mg; 6Aug - 200.0mg; 24Aug - 187.5mg; 13Sep - 175.0mg; 3Oct - 162.5mg; 26Oct - 150mg 2017 9Jan - 150.00mg; 23Mar - 137.50mg; 24Apr - 125.00mg; 31May - 112.50mg holding; 3Sep - 100.00mg; 20Sep - 93.75mg; 20Oct - 87.5mg; 12Nov - 81.25mg; 13 Dec - 75.00mg 2018 18Jan - 69.1mg; 16Feb - 62.5mg; 16March - 57.5mg (-8%); 22Apr - 56.3mg(-2%); CRASHED - Updose 29May - 62.5mg; Updose - 1Jul - 75.0mg. Updose - 2Aug - 87.5mg. Updose - 27Aug - 100.0mg. Updose - 11Oct 112.5mg. Updose - 6Nov 125.00mg. 2019 Updoses 19 Jan - 150.0mg. 1April - 162.5mg. 24 April - Feeling better - doing tasks, getting outside. 7 May - usual depression questionnaire gives "probably no depression" result. Supps/Vits Omega 3; Chelated Magnesium; Prebiotics/Probiotics, Vit D3. Link to comment
Daisy Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 On 6/25/2018 at 2:16 PM, peng said: Thanks for message and sweet sounds from Curtis M, Daisy. Right up my street as we say. I am old enough to remember his version of the song when it first came out. I am 65 years old, so this song also holds meaning for me. I think maybe it does get harder as we get older because we are looking more at the quality of our lives vs the quantity. But we are still living and breathing and our minds are clear except for the darn brain fog tapering or C/T an antidepressant can bring on. Be proud of yourself for taking on this beast. The end results will be good. I used to go through withdrawal within 2 days if I was out of Effexor XL or neglected to take it. I hallucinated at least 2 times that I remember and the weird dizziness was hard to endure. Once you have safely tapered of this drug, you will be free from suffering W/D after a period of time. My suggestion is do not hide your symptoms from a medical professional or your family. I did and I paid it. So little is understood by the medical profession or people we are close to. The Pharmacist where I work had never heard about antidepressant W/D. And the belief that it lasts only 1 to 2 weeks after stopping is BS. I am going to give you a link to print out to show your MD. If he/she will not read it or at least try to understand what you are going through, find someone else who does. My PD sent it to me when I was questioning if he really believed in antidepressant W/D and how hard it can be for some of us. I found the article helpful. You may too https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/07/health/antidepressants-withdrawal-prozac-cymbalta.html 🌻 Effexor XL 2009-2012. CT 150mg Effexor XR 2012, Effexor XR 75mg 2012 then rapid taper to 0, Reinstated Effexor XR 13mg then updosed to 20mg, Tapered to 18mg Effexor XR 4/9/12, Off Effexor XL ?Reinstated Effexor XL 150 mgs August 2012, Crashed in November 2012, Prozac 40 mgs 2012 to Feb 2018, Buspar 60 mgs 2012-stopped 2015, Remeron 7.5 mgs as needed for sleep-stopped Feb 2017, Prozac 50 mgs Feb 2018 to March 2018, Lexapro 5 mgs March 18 2018 to May 17th 2018, Lexapro 2.5 mgs May 18th to May 26th 2018, Prozac 10 mgs May 15th 2018, Prozac 5 mgs May 19th 2018 to current day May 28th 2018, Xanax 0.25 mgs to 0.5 mgs daily for over 15 years. Increased Xanax to 1.5 mgs Sept 2012, Tapered Xanax to 0 mgs May 2013.Reinstated Xanax Feb 2017 at 0.125 mgs as needed, Gradual increase of Xanax to 1.5 mgs daily till May 22nd 2018, Xanax 1.25 mgs daily. Holding Link to comment
peng Posted June 29, 2018 Author Share Posted June 29, 2018 This is a copy of the post I put on "Alto's story", thread. I suspect it should be on my own thread, too, mods? ....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... "Alto, firstly, well done for recovering from withdrawal and inspiring countless others, including myself. You have given us hope, where before there was only ignorance. Now, it appears from your youtube video, at least, that you were prescribed an antidepressant for what you term a physical illness (vitamin deficiency/menopause)? Maybe it is reasonable to say you were not predisposed to mental illness, unless precipitated into it by psychotropic drugs like Paxil? Presumably, those of us who were prescribed AD(s) for, say, depression following a delayed catastrophic mental breakdown due to childhood PTSD, are likely to encounter greater, if not insurmountable, difficulties in achieving complete withdrawal from psychotropic meds and regaining a good quality of life totally without them? This is the way I am starting to think now, having hit the buffers recently after a slow taper of two years (225.0 to 56.3mg Effexor). By the way, I do not subscribe to the view that there is "no such thing as mental illness". Finally, which of the heroes like David Healey, Peter Breggin, Joanna Moncrieff, Robert Whitaker, Thomas Szasz, etc, have experienced mental illness themselves. I asked a question like this on a separate thread sometime ago but did not see any response at the time. The silence spoke for itself, I suppose. Sincere regards." PS - I have read several books by authors who have suffered from depressive illness and have experience of both antidepressants (on & off/reduced) and other therapies. Born 1945. 1999 - First Effexor/Venlafaxine. 2016 Withdrawal research. Effexor. 13Jul - 212.5mg; 6Aug - 200.0mg; 24Aug - 187.5mg; 13Sep - 175.0mg; 3Oct - 162.5mg; 26Oct - 150mg 2017 9Jan - 150.00mg; 23Mar - 137.50mg; 24Apr - 125.00mg; 31May - 112.50mg holding; 3Sep - 100.00mg; 20Sep - 93.75mg; 20Oct - 87.5mg; 12Nov - 81.25mg; 13 Dec - 75.00mg 2018 18Jan - 69.1mg; 16Feb - 62.5mg; 16March - 57.5mg (-8%); 22Apr - 56.3mg(-2%); CRASHED - Updose 29May - 62.5mg; Updose - 1Jul - 75.0mg. Updose - 2Aug - 87.5mg. Updose - 27Aug - 100.0mg. Updose - 11Oct 112.5mg. Updose - 6Nov 125.00mg. 2019 Updoses 19 Jan - 150.0mg. 1April - 162.5mg. 24 April - Feeling better - doing tasks, getting outside. 7 May - usual depression questionnaire gives "probably no depression" result. Supps/Vits Omega 3; Chelated Magnesium; Prebiotics/Probiotics, Vit D3. Link to comment
peng Posted July 3, 2018 Author Share Posted July 3, 2018 Due to particularly low mood and irritability, had to updose to 75mg on 1st July. Anyone able to answer the question I have posed on SA twice, so far? The response has been tumbleweed blowing along the street. 🤔 viz:"......................which of the heroes like David Healey, Peter Breggin, Joanna Moncrieff, Robert Whitaker, Thomas Szasz, etc, have experienced mental illness themselves?" Born 1945. 1999 - First Effexor/Venlafaxine. 2016 Withdrawal research. Effexor. 13Jul - 212.5mg; 6Aug - 200.0mg; 24Aug - 187.5mg; 13Sep - 175.0mg; 3Oct - 162.5mg; 26Oct - 150mg 2017 9Jan - 150.00mg; 23Mar - 137.50mg; 24Apr - 125.00mg; 31May - 112.50mg holding; 3Sep - 100.00mg; 20Sep - 93.75mg; 20Oct - 87.5mg; 12Nov - 81.25mg; 13 Dec - 75.00mg 2018 18Jan - 69.1mg; 16Feb - 62.5mg; 16March - 57.5mg (-8%); 22Apr - 56.3mg(-2%); CRASHED - Updose 29May - 62.5mg; Updose - 1Jul - 75.0mg. Updose - 2Aug - 87.5mg. Updose - 27Aug - 100.0mg. Updose - 11Oct 112.5mg. Updose - 6Nov 125.00mg. 2019 Updoses 19 Jan - 150.0mg. 1April - 162.5mg. 24 April - Feeling better - doing tasks, getting outside. 7 May - usual depression questionnaire gives "probably no depression" result. Supps/Vits Omega 3; Chelated Magnesium; Prebiotics/Probiotics, Vit D3. Link to comment
bubbles Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 @peng I'm sorry that you've been feeling unwell. Has the updose kicked in? I'm sorry, I don't know the answer to that question about the heroes. B 2005 St John's Wort / 2006-2012 Lexapro 20mg, 2 failed attempts to stop, tapered over 4.5 months in early 2012 January 2013 started Sertraline, over time worked up to 100mg July 2014 Sertraline dropped from 100mg to 75mg, held for six months, slower tapering until 2019 22 Dec 3.2mg 2020 Sertraline 19 Jan 3.1mg, 26 Jan 3.0mg; 1 Mar 2.9, 7 Mar 2.8, May (some drops here) 24 May 2.5, May 29 2.4, June 21 2.3, June 28 2.2mg, July 4 2.1mg, July 24 (or maybe a bit before) 2mg, early Nov switched to home made suspension; 29 Nov 1.8mg; approx 25 Dec 1.6mg) 2021 Some time in about Jan/Feb realised probably on more like 1.8mg and poss mixing error in making suspension; doses after 10 Feb accurate; 10 Feb 1.6mg; 7 Mar 1.4, continued monthly 10% drops until 1mg, then dropped 0.1mg monthly. May 2022,0.1mg, now dropping 0.01mg per week 29 August 2022 - first day of zero! My thread here at SA: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/1775-bubbles/page/21/ Current: Armour Thyroid Link to comment
peng Posted July 5, 2018 Author Share Posted July 5, 2018 Thanks for your visit, bubbles. The first updose 56.3 to 62.5mg worked after 28 days, then failed. Four days so far on 75mg. No dramatic improvement, but I am able to function. Don't expect me to pack and go on a holiday, though! (Anhedonia). Born 1945. 1999 - First Effexor/Venlafaxine. 2016 Withdrawal research. Effexor. 13Jul - 212.5mg; 6Aug - 200.0mg; 24Aug - 187.5mg; 13Sep - 175.0mg; 3Oct - 162.5mg; 26Oct - 150mg 2017 9Jan - 150.00mg; 23Mar - 137.50mg; 24Apr - 125.00mg; 31May - 112.50mg holding; 3Sep - 100.00mg; 20Sep - 93.75mg; 20Oct - 87.5mg; 12Nov - 81.25mg; 13 Dec - 75.00mg 2018 18Jan - 69.1mg; 16Feb - 62.5mg; 16March - 57.5mg (-8%); 22Apr - 56.3mg(-2%); CRASHED - Updose 29May - 62.5mg; Updose - 1Jul - 75.0mg. Updose - 2Aug - 87.5mg. Updose - 27Aug - 100.0mg. Updose - 11Oct 112.5mg. Updose - 6Nov 125.00mg. 2019 Updoses 19 Jan - 150.0mg. 1April - 162.5mg. 24 April - Feeling better - doing tasks, getting outside. 7 May - usual depression questionnaire gives "probably no depression" result. Supps/Vits Omega 3; Chelated Magnesium; Prebiotics/Probiotics, Vit D3. Link to comment
bubbles Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 How are you feeling now Peng? 2005 St John's Wort / 2006-2012 Lexapro 20mg, 2 failed attempts to stop, tapered over 4.5 months in early 2012 January 2013 started Sertraline, over time worked up to 100mg July 2014 Sertraline dropped from 100mg to 75mg, held for six months, slower tapering until 2019 22 Dec 3.2mg 2020 Sertraline 19 Jan 3.1mg, 26 Jan 3.0mg; 1 Mar 2.9, 7 Mar 2.8, May (some drops here) 24 May 2.5, May 29 2.4, June 21 2.3, June 28 2.2mg, July 4 2.1mg, July 24 (or maybe a bit before) 2mg, early Nov switched to home made suspension; 29 Nov 1.8mg; approx 25 Dec 1.6mg) 2021 Some time in about Jan/Feb realised probably on more like 1.8mg and poss mixing error in making suspension; doses after 10 Feb accurate; 10 Feb 1.6mg; 7 Mar 1.4, continued monthly 10% drops until 1mg, then dropped 0.1mg monthly. May 2022,0.1mg, now dropping 0.01mg per week 29 August 2022 - first day of zero! My thread here at SA: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/1775-bubbles/page/21/ Current: Armour Thyroid Link to comment
peng Posted July 23, 2018 Author Share Posted July 23, 2018 I am in "amber mode" just now, bubbles, thanks for asking. In my excel table/journal (back to 2002 - what a geek!) I mark each day/week with a colour - red, amber or yellow. Amber is "not bad"! Holding at the 75mg since 1st July. No red (bad) days this month - even a couple of yellows (good). Hope your own taper keeps going fine, as it appears? Going for an MRI scan this evening. As Skeeter describes it quite correctly, I believe, pain due to cervical radiculopathy. No - I do not have a womb - cervical vertebrae in the neck on which our all-too heavy heads sit! Born 1945. 1999 - First Effexor/Venlafaxine. 2016 Withdrawal research. Effexor. 13Jul - 212.5mg; 6Aug - 200.0mg; 24Aug - 187.5mg; 13Sep - 175.0mg; 3Oct - 162.5mg; 26Oct - 150mg 2017 9Jan - 150.00mg; 23Mar - 137.50mg; 24Apr - 125.00mg; 31May - 112.50mg holding; 3Sep - 100.00mg; 20Sep - 93.75mg; 20Oct - 87.5mg; 12Nov - 81.25mg; 13 Dec - 75.00mg 2018 18Jan - 69.1mg; 16Feb - 62.5mg; 16March - 57.5mg (-8%); 22Apr - 56.3mg(-2%); CRASHED - Updose 29May - 62.5mg; Updose - 1Jul - 75.0mg. Updose - 2Aug - 87.5mg. Updose - 27Aug - 100.0mg. Updose - 11Oct 112.5mg. Updose - 6Nov 125.00mg. 2019 Updoses 19 Jan - 150.0mg. 1April - 162.5mg. 24 April - Feeling better - doing tasks, getting outside. 7 May - usual depression questionnaire gives "probably no depression" result. Supps/Vits Omega 3; Chelated Magnesium; Prebiotics/Probiotics, Vit D3. Link to comment
bubbles Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Glad to hear no reds, and some yellows! Glad to hear you are doing better. Yes, my taper continues to go well, albeit slowly. Thanks! 2005 St John's Wort / 2006-2012 Lexapro 20mg, 2 failed attempts to stop, tapered over 4.5 months in early 2012 January 2013 started Sertraline, over time worked up to 100mg July 2014 Sertraline dropped from 100mg to 75mg, held for six months, slower tapering until 2019 22 Dec 3.2mg 2020 Sertraline 19 Jan 3.1mg, 26 Jan 3.0mg; 1 Mar 2.9, 7 Mar 2.8, May (some drops here) 24 May 2.5, May 29 2.4, June 21 2.3, June 28 2.2mg, July 4 2.1mg, July 24 (or maybe a bit before) 2mg, early Nov switched to home made suspension; 29 Nov 1.8mg; approx 25 Dec 1.6mg) 2021 Some time in about Jan/Feb realised probably on more like 1.8mg and poss mixing error in making suspension; doses after 10 Feb accurate; 10 Feb 1.6mg; 7 Mar 1.4, continued monthly 10% drops until 1mg, then dropped 0.1mg monthly. May 2022,0.1mg, now dropping 0.01mg per week 29 August 2022 - first day of zero! My thread here at SA: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/1775-bubbles/page/21/ Current: Armour Thyroid Link to comment
peng Posted July 26, 2018 Author Share Posted July 26, 2018 Over the last 2 year period, my taper from 225mg went mostly smoothly. I was able to report good (good) or not bad colours on my daily excel spread sheet until I got to about 60mg in the spring and early summer of this year, 2018, when some bads came in. Even the, at first glance, cautious 5-10% taper caused me to overshoot what, in my opinion, was my minimum effective therapeutic dose for the time. Looking further back (pre-SA era) I did go down to 0.0mg once in 2006 and was still feeling great, doing lots of projects, legal reports, expert witness attendances in court, etc. However, typically for the beast, it came back to bite me within a few months. In my ignorance (again, no website help) I reinstated slowly but ended up on 187.5 to 225mg again. On the plus side I was able to resume my very active part-time professional and leisure facets of my life until 2015 when the drug seemed to poop out, as you US guys say. Anyway, please be wary when you start passing down through, say, the 75mg mark, and do not take chances by thinking you are "good enough to go" faster. Euphoria and deceptive self-confidence are other tricks in venlafaxine's armoury. Not trying to rain on anyone's parade here - just spreading the word about the sneaky dangers this, at times effective, drug is liable to hammer us with when we are feeling "free". The more I read and experience personally, the more I believe venlafaxine (withdrawal) is a special case, being an exceptionally difficult drug from which to withdraw. In the early 1980s, I withdrew from Ativan, started in 1977. Difficult enough, I thought, with my doctor poo-pooing the fact that I was weaning myself off it by having to cut the small tablets into slivers with a razor blade. The outcome showed that my own instincts (no websites then) proved correct and, worryingly, the trained professional was wrong. Best wishes & success, folks peng. Born 1945. 1999 - First Effexor/Venlafaxine. 2016 Withdrawal research. Effexor. 13Jul - 212.5mg; 6Aug - 200.0mg; 24Aug - 187.5mg; 13Sep - 175.0mg; 3Oct - 162.5mg; 26Oct - 150mg 2017 9Jan - 150.00mg; 23Mar - 137.50mg; 24Apr - 125.00mg; 31May - 112.50mg holding; 3Sep - 100.00mg; 20Sep - 93.75mg; 20Oct - 87.5mg; 12Nov - 81.25mg; 13 Dec - 75.00mg 2018 18Jan - 69.1mg; 16Feb - 62.5mg; 16March - 57.5mg (-8%); 22Apr - 56.3mg(-2%); CRASHED - Updose 29May - 62.5mg; Updose - 1Jul - 75.0mg. Updose - 2Aug - 87.5mg. Updose - 27Aug - 100.0mg. Updose - 11Oct 112.5mg. Updose - 6Nov 125.00mg. 2019 Updoses 19 Jan - 150.0mg. 1April - 162.5mg. 24 April - Feeling better - doing tasks, getting outside. 7 May - usual depression questionnaire gives "probably no depression" result. Supps/Vits Omega 3; Chelated Magnesium; Prebiotics/Probiotics, Vit D3. Link to comment
peng Posted August 2, 2018 Author Share Posted August 2, 2018 Been on updose to 75mg for 32 days now. Really low yesterday. Fatigued. Painful arm, shoulder, neck from pinched nerve. Anhedonia. Nausea yesterday from ibuprofen, probably. Seriously considering further updose any week now. Maybe after 5 or 6 weeks at 75mg that is a fair trial? When I refer to my journal of the many years up to about March 2018, when I was mostly on the dose 225mg decreasing 2016-2018 to 62.5mg, I wonder if it is worth this purgatory. I see that I led a happier life in a lot of ways. Maybe trying to get off the AD is not for me? Sorry, folks, at 73, quality of life seems more important than waging a bitter battle with my feelings and Effexor. 'Tis a beast by all accounts - maybe younger folks will beat it easier? On 6/26/2018 at 11:03 AM, peng said: Browsing my journal notes/Flickr photos for the past c40 years makes me realise I did a lot of active things and enjoyed life, even when I was on up to 100-225mg of Effexor during most of this millenium. Born 1945. 1999 - First Effexor/Venlafaxine. 2016 Withdrawal research. Effexor. 13Jul - 212.5mg; 6Aug - 200.0mg; 24Aug - 187.5mg; 13Sep - 175.0mg; 3Oct - 162.5mg; 26Oct - 150mg 2017 9Jan - 150.00mg; 23Mar - 137.50mg; 24Apr - 125.00mg; 31May - 112.50mg holding; 3Sep - 100.00mg; 20Sep - 93.75mg; 20Oct - 87.5mg; 12Nov - 81.25mg; 13 Dec - 75.00mg 2018 18Jan - 69.1mg; 16Feb - 62.5mg; 16March - 57.5mg (-8%); 22Apr - 56.3mg(-2%); CRASHED - Updose 29May - 62.5mg; Updose - 1Jul - 75.0mg. Updose - 2Aug - 87.5mg. Updose - 27Aug - 100.0mg. Updose - 11Oct 112.5mg. Updose - 6Nov 125.00mg. 2019 Updoses 19 Jan - 150.0mg. 1April - 162.5mg. 24 April - Feeling better - doing tasks, getting outside. 7 May - usual depression questionnaire gives "probably no depression" result. Supps/Vits Omega 3; Chelated Magnesium; Prebiotics/Probiotics, Vit D3. Link to comment
powerback Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 4 hours ago, peng said: Been on updose to 75mg for 32 days now. Really low yesterday. Fatigued. Painful arm, shoulder, neck from pinched nerve. Anhedonia. Nausea yesterday from ibuprofen, probably. Seriously considering further updose any week now. Maybe after 5 or 6 weeks at 75mg that is a fair trial? When I refer to my journal of the many years up to about March 2018, when I was mostly on the dose 225mg decreasing 2016-2018 to 62.5mg, I wonder if it is worth this purgatory. I see that I led a happier life in a lot of ways. Maybe trying to get off the AD is not for me? Sorry, folks, at 73, quality of life seems more important than waging a bitter battle with my feelings and Effexor. 'Tis a beast by all accounts - maybe younger folks will beat it easier? I feel your pain peng ,my sciatic nerve is back to haunt me after many years dormant ,its never ending when we get bombarded from all directions . Im forcing myself to do exercise for my traped nerve ,hard when not motivated. Im considering the prozac bridge myself because of no let up and only side affects from the dam drug . Take care and I hope you find peace soon . Alcohol free since February 2015 1MG diazepam 4.5MG PROZAC. Link to comment
peng Posted August 2, 2018 Author Share Posted August 2, 2018 Hey, thanks for dropping by, pb, with such kind sentiments. I appreciate your humanity a lot. I really hope you find a solution soon - I know from your determined posting while suffering terribly, you have not been getting anywhere good. Here's to some overdue relief for you. Born 1945. 1999 - First Effexor/Venlafaxine. 2016 Withdrawal research. Effexor. 13Jul - 212.5mg; 6Aug - 200.0mg; 24Aug - 187.5mg; 13Sep - 175.0mg; 3Oct - 162.5mg; 26Oct - 150mg 2017 9Jan - 150.00mg; 23Mar - 137.50mg; 24Apr - 125.00mg; 31May - 112.50mg holding; 3Sep - 100.00mg; 20Sep - 93.75mg; 20Oct - 87.5mg; 12Nov - 81.25mg; 13 Dec - 75.00mg 2018 18Jan - 69.1mg; 16Feb - 62.5mg; 16March - 57.5mg (-8%); 22Apr - 56.3mg(-2%); CRASHED - Updose 29May - 62.5mg; Updose - 1Jul - 75.0mg. Updose - 2Aug - 87.5mg. Updose - 27Aug - 100.0mg. Updose - 11Oct 112.5mg. Updose - 6Nov 125.00mg. 2019 Updoses 19 Jan - 150.0mg. 1April - 162.5mg. 24 April - Feeling better - doing tasks, getting outside. 7 May - usual depression questionnaire gives "probably no depression" result. Supps/Vits Omega 3; Chelated Magnesium; Prebiotics/Probiotics, Vit D3. Link to comment
peng Posted August 2, 2018 Author Share Posted August 2, 2018 Powerback, PS - I know you walk and do active stuff when you can. I once got rid of a rare attack of sciatica by going on a walk - some of it uphill - with the Mrs. a few years ago. Quite surprised me. At my last visit to the physio in our town (ex-NHS) for my pinched nerve (cervical radiculopathy from neck vertebra C6, so they say!), she said that any walking/exercise that gets your blood pumping around is good for things like our problems (nerve) as fresh oxygenated blood gets to the finest capillaries at the ends of our veins to flush away inflammation toxins. Sounds plausible, anyway. Hope you can give it a try and add in a splash of faith with it! Born 1945. 1999 - First Effexor/Venlafaxine. 2016 Withdrawal research. Effexor. 13Jul - 212.5mg; 6Aug - 200.0mg; 24Aug - 187.5mg; 13Sep - 175.0mg; 3Oct - 162.5mg; 26Oct - 150mg 2017 9Jan - 150.00mg; 23Mar - 137.50mg; 24Apr - 125.00mg; 31May - 112.50mg holding; 3Sep - 100.00mg; 20Sep - 93.75mg; 20Oct - 87.5mg; 12Nov - 81.25mg; 13 Dec - 75.00mg 2018 18Jan - 69.1mg; 16Feb - 62.5mg; 16March - 57.5mg (-8%); 22Apr - 56.3mg(-2%); CRASHED - Updose 29May - 62.5mg; Updose - 1Jul - 75.0mg. Updose - 2Aug - 87.5mg. Updose - 27Aug - 100.0mg. Updose - 11Oct 112.5mg. Updose - 6Nov 125.00mg. 2019 Updoses 19 Jan - 150.0mg. 1April - 162.5mg. 24 April - Feeling better - doing tasks, getting outside. 7 May - usual depression questionnaire gives "probably no depression" result. Supps/Vits Omega 3; Chelated Magnesium; Prebiotics/Probiotics, Vit D3. Link to comment
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