Frogie: how to taper off Lexapro and Xanax?

[AliG]

I do understand the " stuck " feeling and even now ~ I still very occasionally experience it  ~ so, don't feel bad ~ it's all part of the process. It's going to be ok.   

[Frogie]

21 minutes ago, joy2730 said:

Hi Frogie

 

You are clearly homesick and not in a good place with the people you are closest to.  You must feel that you have little control over your life at present which is rotten.  I know you think the people in your area are difficult, but they may be shy and awkward socially, can you not give them a chance.  It is just such a shame that you are waiting to go home and in the meantime are not getting anything out of where you live now.  In any given group of people there tends to be a mixture of types.  I know the volunteering didn't work out, but there must be more than one place you could volunteer? 

 

It is a case of changing something in your life that will help your 'attitude' that those closest to you are finding difficult.  All this crying is not good, you are clearly distressed, something is wrong and something needs to change for you.  I hope I have not said too much.  Life really is a gift for us all, no matter how difficult it is, it is such a shame that you are not enjoying it or getting anything out of it.

 

Joy

Hi Joy:

 

No you haven't said too much.

 

We talk about moving and my fiancé just said you have nothing to worry about. He has to start a new job. I told him it would be a better job. And we would be near family and friends again. He told me that 1st he wants me to look for houses and jobs, then he says in the next breath I'm shoving it down his throat. It's a losing battle. I have NO control over my life right now and it is horrible. I can't say anything or do anything right.

 

I have been here almost 5 years. If you aren't from here you don't belong here and they tell you that in no certain terms. They completely ignore you and talk behind your back. That's why I stay home. I don't play games like that. I have no interaction. My fiancé may not like his job but at least he has interaction with people. He doesn't understand that at all.

 

I have called everywhere I can. No one is needing volunteers. 

 

I'm working with my therapist to try to find things to do to keep me busy so I don't sit here with an attitude and crying.

 

But I'm not happy. That's for sure.

 

Thanks for talking to me though. At least I have a few on here.

 

i just try to stay off of here. No one needs to hear my problems, you all have problems of your own. 

[Frogie]

6 minutes ago, AliG said:

I do understand the " stuck " feeling and even now ~ I still very occasionally experience it  ~ so, don't feel bad ~ it's all part of the process. It's going to be ok.   

I hope so. I don't like the stuck feeling at all. And my fiancé is anything but helpful...

[AliG]

Well, men can be so very stupid ~ try not to take any notice ... they eventually come to their senses .....

[Frogie]

1 hour ago, AliG said:

Well, men can be so very stupid ~ try not to take any notice ... they eventually come to their senses .....

They are so very stupid. But I can't live without him. Or should I say I can't survive without him.

[Rosetta]

I'm sorry, Frogie.  I know the type of place where you live.  People are not welcoming.  The women are especially bad.  People from the city can't believe the gossip.  They are ugly to each other, too, but they are at least tolerant of each other to some extent.  It takes years to find and make friends with the few people who grew up there and are not that way, and they are usually slightly outcast, but not entirely.  You have to find other "refugees" like yourself.  It's not easy.  In WD it must be almost impossible.  I can tell you that if you watch carefully you will see people who would be thrilled to have friend.  They may be a little odd, but they exist.  Of course, you need the ability to get out and meet them.

 

Try to show your fiancé that you appreciate him even if you are furious.  This wears on the caregivers, too.  No, he doesn't understand.  This is like no other illness except maybe dementia.  It's impossible to imagine the non-linear nature being real.  

 

Your uncle is a jerk.  He's your uncle, he's staying in your house, he sees you for only two days, he goes to the tavern with your fiancé without inviting you, and then the next day he doesn't want to "hear it?"  Maybe not, but where are his manners?  He is your family, not your fiance's.  Did you cook for this man?  Make him a fresh bed? Unless you have been complaining for hours, I call BS.  I think I would not invite him back for a while - a long while.

 

Rosetta

[Flowers]

Hi Frogie

 

Sorry you are feeling bad. Sometimes we just need to find a way to talk through these problems with our nearest and dearest. Being ganged up on is awful even if they think they have your best interests at heart which I am sure is the case.

 

Here is a big hug from me !

 

Flowers xxx

 

 

[Frogie]

10 hours ago, Rosetta said:

I'm sorry, Frogie.  I know the type of place where you live.  People are not welcoming.  The women are especially bad.  People from the city can't believe the gossip.  They are ugly to each other, too, but they are at least tolerant of each other to some extent.  It takes years to find and make friends with the few people who grew up there and are not that way, and they are usually slightly outcast, but not entirely.  You have to find other "refugees" like yourself.  It's not easy.  In WD it must be almost impossible.  I can tell you that if you watch carefully you will see people who would be thrilled to have friend.  They may be a little odd, but they exist.  Of course, you need the ability to get out and meet them.

 

Try to show your fiancé that you appreciate him even if you are furious.  This wears on the caregivers, too.  No, he doesn't understand.  This is like no other illness except maybe dementia.  It's impossible to imagine the non-linear nature being real.  

 

Your uncle is a jerk.  He's your uncle, he's staying in your house, he sees you for only two days, he goes to the tavern with your fiancé without inviting you, and then the next day he doesn't want to "hear it?"  Maybe not, but where are his manners?  He is your family, not your fiance's.  Did you cook for this man?  Make him a fresh bed? Unless you have been complaining for hours, I call BS.  I think I would not invite him back for a while - a long while.

 

Rosetta

Thanks Rosetta:

 

I can't believe you understand how I live. It's awful. People are just hurtful and full of hate if you don't live here. The only ones that I've met, want to use you. Then when they are done with you they throw you to the curb. I don't need that especially in WD. So it's easier to just stay home where I only get it from my fiancé. People are so cruel in this town it isn't funny.

 

I really got ganged up on from my fiancé and therapist the other day. I have cried so much my eyes are wrinkled and purple underneath. I was told I need to learn to help myself and not rely on other people all the time. But I did hear my fiancé talking to his son last night and he said he was going to start putting out resumes and we were going to start looking for a house in September-October. So maybe it is finally going to happen!

 

My Uncle isn't completely all there if you know what I mean. Yes, he had a clean bed and I cooked for him. But I really didn't care if I went or not. I don't drink. I got to watch a show on tv that I wanted to watch instead of what we could all agree on. It was kinda nice. But my fiancé made me mad by not asking me to go. I would have said no, but it would have been nice to be invited. Oh well...

 

Thanks for understanding. I'm just staying away. I check in here and there. But no one should hear my attitude right now. Everyone has their own problems.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Frogie]

I don't know what's wrong with me.

 

I know I'm not happy living here, but never have been as everyone knows.

 

I know we are moving. We have been talking about it quite a bit latley. And my fiancé has told his son and parents we are going to start looking September-October. Can't come soon enough for me lol...

 

But, I have been in the foulest mood I have ever been in. I'm grumpy all the time. I just don't care. I don't know if being on lower dosages of Lexapro is doing it or what. And then I'm told I need an attitude adjustment, so I've been crying until my eyes are wrinkled and purple underneath them.

 

And then like I said I was ganged up on by my therapist and fiancé last week. Telling me that I need to find things to do and stop relying on people. Well, how can I rely on people when you have no friends here? I ask my fiancé to do things with me, but he's tired when he gets home from work. We eat dinner, he sits on the couch and goes to sleep. That's really doing things lol... There is no nature here. You see cows, wheat, corn and tumbleweeds, and a highway. And you have to drive 50 miles to even go to Walmart. I have to drive 16 miles one way to go to my dr or a 1/2 way decent grocery store. No deli or bakery. As I've said there is a Shopko (small, way overpriced Walmart type store) and 2 dollar stores. You can only go there so many times. 

 

There  are no places to walk unless you want to walk around the block in the 50 mph wind. No weather like people are having. It's already been in the 60's most days and some 70's. No rain, snow, nothing. We are under a fire weather watch because it's so dry. There are no gyms, yoga, anything like that. One of the two restaurants we had in town burned down.

 

Those adult coloring books drive me crazy! They are way too busy.

 

I have said it many times, if you aren't from here you can't make friends. You are an outcast. No one will talk to you. And if they do, then they talk behind your back when you walk away. I did find a neighbor that we were seeing each other here and there. I guess she used me enough like they do here, because she doesn't have the time of day for me anymore. She waves if I wave 1st, but otherwise I'm completely ignored by her. And I have driven her to the city 2 1/2 hours away to see specialist dr's. That's how you get thanked, ignored.

 

But my TSH level actually went down from 7.03 to 5.01. The dr still put me on a small dosage of NP Thyroid. This is the 4th medication that I've been on and the 1st one that hasn't made me sick! 

 

I'm so tired. I get up, feed Brownie, take my Lexapro and Xanax and I want to go back to sleep. That's not me. Usually when I get up in the morning, I'm up. What's wrong with me? Maybe the thyroid meds are making me tired?

 

I stay off of here because everyone has their own problems they don't need my problems or attitude. Does anyone have a bad attitude, and what do you do for it? I would welcome any ideas. And I would welcome any ideas that I could do to keep occupied.

 

I apologize now before I say anymore.

 

I hope everyone is doing well.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

 

 

[apace41]

20 minutes ago, Frogie said:

I stay off of here because everyone has their own problems they don't need my problems or attitude. Does anyone have a bad attitude, and what do you do for it? I would welcome any ideas. And I would welcome any ideas that I could do to keep occupied.

 

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Frogie, you have the freedom and the right to come here and b**** and moan if you want and it's pretty clear that you were in a bit of a tizzy and wanted to get it out of you and onto "paper."  

 

But, you know as well as anyone that the only person who can change your situation is you.  People have thrown out a ton of suggestions to you and (in many cases with valid reason) you have rejected them.  Where you are and the situation you are in both sound like they suck.  But, it's up to you to find ways to keep occupied and make yourself happy.  Figure out how to start an online business.  You don't have to see people and you can make some extra cash for when you finally do get to move.

 

Best,

 

Andy

[Frogie]

2 minutes ago, apace41 said:

 

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Frogie, you have the freedom and the right to come here and b**** and moan if you want and it's pretty clear that you were in a bit of a tizzy and wanted to get it out of you and onto "paper."  

 

But, you know as well as anyone that the only person who can change your situation is you.  People have thrown out a ton of suggestions to you and (in many cases with valid reason) you have rejected them.  Where you are and the situation you are in both sound like they suck.  But, it's up to you to find ways to keep occupied and make yourself happy.  Figure out how to start an online business.  You don't have to see people and you can make some extra cash for when you finally do get to move.

 

Best,

 

Andy

Thanks Andy:

 

Yuppers, my life does suck, just like you said. I know I can come on here to b**** and moan and groan. But, just like you, I'm sure everyone else is sick and tired of hearing it.

 

I was doing online surveys for a while but then the companies ran out of surveys for the area I live in. I wish I could start an online business, but I'm not very creative lol... I can make wreaths. But who wants a Christmas wreath in July lol...  I'm on disability so I can't make any money or they will send me back to work. I was a bookkeeper for 30 years and can't do it with my hand or I would. I peck at the computer with 1 finger.

 

I wish I could go back to serving papers but the attorneys around here, for some reason don't use process servers? I don't know how they serve papers. Guess people just come pick them up. That's how it is out here. There are only 4 attorneys between the 2 towns here.

 

I guess I'm just tired of being so bored. You can only watch so much tv. And when you are in WD you can only watch certain things.

 

I just want someone to talk to. You get tired of talking to yourself. And it's sad when you answer yourself lol... Then I really think I'm crazy.

 

I wish it was time to start packing. If I go get boxes, people will start to talk and then we will be moving next week. My fiancé can't lose his job over that. And we have no where to go yet. I have been researching houses and jobs.

 

I know I can only change the situation. I'm going back to therapy. Maybe that will help.

 

Your new baby is precious.

 

Thanks for caring. It means a lot.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

 

 

[Frogie]

I started a new topic.

 

Thanks,

Frogie xx

[Frogie]

Mod Question (not life threatening)

 

I think the dr and I have figured out my nausea, finally! 

 

My problem is eating chocolate. Everytime I eat it I am nauseous the next morning. I'm stopping that.

 

The dr found my thyroid out if whack. I'm now on meds for that and haven't been nauseous since, except when I ate the chocolate.

 

So... My question is... Since we got it straightened out, can I taper Lexapro a little faster that 30-45 days or not?

 

Thanks for the information.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

 

 

[Frogie]

Also, 

 

How do I get some of the "flags" off the top of my page?

 

Prilosec

Omeprazole

Ranitidine

Zantac

 

Also, can I change my title to Frogie: How to taper off Lexapro and Xanax? Or once you have a title you can't change it? When you sign up you are kinda desperate to just write anything to get help lol...

 

Thanks again! 

[Rosetta]

Frogie, I think it may be that members are tired this time of year.  Winter has been very hard on all of us.  I'm very, very tired, and I've stopped posting as much.  I cannot read about other people's struggles right now as I am so worn out myself.  I attribute it to the Winter and also the activation of cortisol due to the lengthening of the days.  I am just completely spent.  I'm dealing with my own WD as best I can, and I don't have anything left for anyone else.  That's why my posts are so short.  I just say hang in there in the hopes that will help somewhat.  I think some people think they have to find more than a few words or they shouldn't post at all.  As Summer comes people will start to feel better.  

[Frogie]

3 minutes ago, Rosetta said:

Frogie, I think it may be that members are tired this time of year.  Winter has been very hard on all of us.  I'm very, very tired, and I've stopped posting as much.  I cannot read about other people's struggles right now as I am so worn out myself.  I attribute it to the Winter and also the activation of cortisol due to the lengthening of the days.  I am just completely spent.  I'm dealing with my own WD as best I can, and I don't have anything left for anyone else.  That's why my posts are so short.  I just say hang in there in the hopes that will help somewhat.  I think some people think they have to find more than a few words or they shouldn't post at all.  As Summer comes people will start to feel better.  

Maybe you are right. We didn't have a winter that we should have had. We had snow on Friday and a little Saturday. A total of 2 inches and then this week it's supposed to be in the 80's. Go figure.

 

Like I said, I'm not a dr or mod by any means. But maybe you should have your thyroid looked at. Have a full work up. It can't hurt. I've read a lot about how much your thyroid does for your body.

 

I just like to say hi, hope you're doing well.

 

I'm sorry to bother you.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Rosetta]

No bother, Frogie. I wanted you to see another possible reason for fewer posts being made, not to feel bad because I'm tired!!  

 

I'm sure nothing in my body is operating properly, but I don't want to see a doctor.  I'm too angry with the medical profession.  Thanks for the suggestion.  I'll check it in a year or so if I'm not more energetic.

[apace41]

18 hours ago, Frogie said:

I just haven't been posting because no one replies.

 

Seriously?  Frogie, nobody gets more responses on SA than you do.  You have 77 pages in your thread.  I just can't understand how you can think this.

 

18 hours ago, Frogie said:

So... My question is... Since we got it straightened out, can I taper Lexapro a little faster that 30-45 days or not?

 

There is no "permission slip" that you need for your taper.  It is all a matter of how your body feels and how you are reacting.  We suggest 10% a month.  If you are feeling fine with that and you see a basis for accelerating your taper, who are we to tell you no?  If you felt adverse consequences you would then slow down.  There are no hard and fast rules.  Everybody is different.  You may well be able to taper faster since you have the Xanax that provides a cushion for your nervous system.

 

Best,

 

Andy

[Frogie]

1 hour ago, apace41 said:

 

Seriously?  Frogie, nobody gets more responses on SA than you do.  You have 77 pages in your thread.  I just can't understand how you can think this.

 

 

There is no "permission slip" that you need for your taper.  It is all a matter of how your body feels and how you are reacting.  We suggest 10% a month.  If you are feeling fine with that and you see a basis for accelerating your taper, who are we to tell you no?  If you felt adverse consequences you would then slow down.  There are no hard and fast rules.  Everybody is different.  You may well be able to taper faster since you have the Xanax that provides a cushion for your nervous system.

 

Best,

 

Andy

Hi Andy:

 

I have 77 pages of a lot of nothing too. Lol... Junglechicken isn't far behind me.

 

I don't know if I want to speed up my taper because it just scares me I'll start getting nauseous again. But since taking the thyroid meds I haven't been nauseous except for eating the chocolate cupcake. That was my fault.

 

I'm having a hard time breathing today. I can't catch my breath. I'm sure I'm fine.

 

Thanks again.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[apace41]

21 hours ago, Frogie said:

Also, 

 

How do I get some of the "flags" off the top of my page?

 

Prilosec

Omeprazole

Ranitidine

Zantac

 

Also, can I change my title to Frogie: How to taper off Lexapro and Xanax? Or once you have a title you can't change it? When you sign up you are kinda desperate to just write anything to get help lol...

 

Thanks again! 

 

I made the changes you requested, Frogie.

 

Best,

 

Andy

[Frogie]

Just now, apace41 said:

 

I made the changes you requested, Frogie.

 

Best,

 

Andy

Thank you Andy, you are so sweet!

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Frogie]

I have a question. And it probably sounds stupid to a lot of people on here, but here it goes.

 

Everytime I eat chocolate, I am sick and I mean sick like the flu type sick the next day. It never bothered me before until I got below 2mg Lexapro.

 

I can eat about anything else. I drink a coke a day.

 

Does anyone have this problem?

 

Thanks.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[RachelSusan]

 

3 hours ago, Frogie said:

Does anyone have this problem?

Too much sugar will make me nauseous, but it's not just chocolate, it's all sugar. It will be interesting to see if anybody else has issues with chocolate.  Either way, at least you have narrowed it down.  Poor Frogie, no more chocolate for you. How about carob? Will that do?

 

 

[Frogie]

24 minutes ago, RachelSusan said:

 

Too much sugar will make me nauseous, but it's not just chocolate, it's all sugar. It will be interesting to see if anybody else has issues with chocolate.  Either way, at least you have narrowed it down.  Poor Frogie, no more chocolate for you. How about carob? Will that do?

 

 

I know RS, bums me out. I love chocolate but it doesn't love me anymore. I haven't tried carob, wonder if I could handle it. Sorry you can't have any sugar. At least I can drink my 1 coke a day. How are you doing? 

[RachelSusan]

I'm doing ok Frogie. 

 

By the way Carob comes from a different plant than chocolate and while it doesn't taste as rich as chocolate it's better than nothing.

 

xo

[Frogie]

1 hour ago, RachelSusan said:

I'm doing ok Frogie. 

 

By the way Carob comes from a different plant than chocolate and while it doesn't taste as rich as chocolate it's better than nothing.

 

xo

Goad you are doing ok. 

 

I will ill have to try to find some carob.

 

Thanks

 

[Frogie]

16 hours ago, Frogie said:

Goad you are doing ok. 

 

I will ill have to try to find some carob.

 

Thanks

 

Sorry RS I can't spell... I meant to say glad you are doing ok

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Frogie]

I started NP Thyroid 15mg  on March 31,2018. This is the 4th thyroid medication I've tried. The other 3 caused too many symptoms.

 

My TSH was 5.06, so the dr started me on the low dose. I have to go back the middle of May to be re-checked. All my other numbers were ok. If you want to see them, you can go to the hypothyroidism thread that Karma started. I have had a high TSH for almost a year now.

 

Since I stared this I haven't had any nausea (imagine that for me), except when I ate a chocolate cupcake, that was my fault. But I'm still so tired and my feet are cold. I have absolutely no energy. I just want to sit all day and do nothing. My temperature is running 97.9 everytime I go to the dr, and my blood pressure is low, example 107/71, when I was at the dr.

 

It's 68 degrees outside and I have a blanket on me.

 

If anyone has this problem, how long does it take to get your energy back? And not be cold? I'm sure I will have to have my dosage increased, but it's a start.

 

Thanks for the help.

 

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

 

One more question. When I go to get my blood work done do I take my meds 1st? Or wait until after I have my blood drawn. I've heard different answers from different people. Thanks again.

 

 

[Altostrata]

Frogie, you will get more of a discussion about thyroid treatment by joining a thyroid support site, such as Hypothyroid Mom - Home | Facebook on Facebook or the list here https://stopthethyroidmadness.com/talk-to-others/

 

I strongly recommend you do this. You'll find lots of friendly people to chat with there, too.

 

Thyroid treatment can be complex. Karma has other things to do. Her job here, and that of the other staff, is not to provide peer support for thyroid treatment. SurvivingAntidepressants.org is not a site for general medical conditions. It is strictly about going off psychiatric drugs.

 

Good to hear you've figured out a piece of your medical puzzle.

[Frogie]

1 hour ago, Altostrata said:

Frogie, you will get more of a discussion about thyroid treatment by joining a thyroid support site, such as Hypothyroid Mom - Home | Facebook on Facebook or the list here https://stopthethyroidmadness.com/talk-to-others/

 

I strongly recommend you do this. You'll find lots of friendly people to chat with there, too.

 

Thyroid treatment can be complex. Karma has other things to do. Her job here, and that of the other staff, is not to provide peer support for thyroid treatment. SurvivingAntidepressants.org is not a site for general medical conditions. It is strictly about going off psychiatric drugs.

 

Good to hear you've figured out a piece of your medical puzzle.

Thanks Altrostra:

 

I read threads on stopthethyroidmadness a lot. But I didn't know about the Hypothyroid Mom. I will definitely check it out.

 

I know Karma isn't on much anymore. She is/was great for helping and wanted my lab results when I had it done (Waited for insurance approval  gotta love insurance companies) lol...

 

I did post my question this morning just general. To see if anyone else that has hypothyroidism would give me some insight. I know there are some people with hypothyroidism on here, I just can't remember who.

 

I'm glad my dr and I have figured out a piece of my medical puzzle. Hopefully the dr is right. He thinks it might be subclinical from tapering off Lexapro and I may not have to take the thyroid meds forever. I can only hope.

 

Thanks for helping me out. I really appreciate it.

 

Hope you are doing well.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

 

 

[Frogie]

I have a question. Not an emergency.

 

I tapered on March 31st and my nausea stopped almost immediately.

 

Saturday, I had nausea but that was my fault, I ate chocolate.

 

But, this morning I woke up nauseous again. Could it be a WD symptom or could it be that my body wants me to taper a little again? But would it show up 2 weeks later? Usually I'm nauseous a day or two after a taper as everyone knows. Do I just keep holding? I'm confused 

 

It felt so good not to be nauseous for 13 days!

 

Thanks for the help.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Altostrata]

As we have discussed many times before, your nausea may be unrelated to the psychiatric drug or tapering. No one can answer your question.

[Frogie]

1 minute ago, Altostrata said:

As we have discussed many times before, your nausea may be unrelated to the psychiatric drug or tapering. No one can answer your question.

Thanks Altrostra: I was hoping since my nausea was almost immediately gone after tapering, maybe my body was telling me something. Wishful thinking I guess.

 

Thank you so much for the information on the Hypothyroid Mom. I'm going to read some of it over the weekend.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[joy2730]

Hi Frogie 

 

Please don'the take this the wrong way but our stomachs are like a second brain and if someone or something is upsetting you it can cause nausea.  Eg 'he/she makes me sick' is a common expression.  Is it homesickness or health anxiety or are you lacking distraction in your life.  My own GP says there are only 3;things that make people psychologically ill - work money and relationships.  I know you don't work so its not that.  Sometimes our bodies are trying to tell.us we are not happy and to ignote the signals is to set up yourself for trouble.

 

The symptoms are still real and valid but they are not physical illness as such.

 

Did you say you were in counselling and working on things recently.

 

I can't meditate at the moment and find it hard to learn how to but I wondered if.it would help.

 

Also people on this site swear by healthy eating so do you think that would help.  The nausea might be caused by your diet perhaps sugar or food colouring or gluten - anything really.  Do you drink alcohol or smoke?  Does your nausea cause weight loss?

 

Please don't take offence

 

Your internet friend

 

Joy

 

[Frogie]

17 hours ago, joy2730 said:

Hi Frogie 

 

Please don'the take this the wrong way but our stomachs are like a second brain and if someone or something is upsetting you it can cause nausea.  Eg 'he/she makes me sick' is a common expression.  Is it homesickness or health anxiety or are you lacking distraction in your life.  My own GP says there are only 3;things that make people psychologically ill - work money and relationships.  I know you don't work so its not that.  Sometimes our bodies are trying to tell.us we are not happy and to ignote the signals is to set up yourself for trouble.

 

The symptoms are still real and valid but they are not physical illness as such.

 

Did you say you were in counselling and working on things recently.

 

I can't meditate at the moment and find it hard to learn how to but I wondered if.it would help.

 

Also people on this site swear by healthy eating so do you think that would help.  The nausea might be caused by your diet perhaps sugar or food colouring or gluten - anything really.  Do you drink alcohol or smoke?  Does your nausea cause weight loss?

 

Please don't take offence

 

Your internet friend

 

Joy

 

My nausea was caused by eating a chocolate cupcake last weekend, but that was just one day. But WD had always caused me nausea. It causes other issues with other people.

 

I don't take offense with you at all, hopefully you don't take offense with me either.

 

Didn't you say you had to take Phenergran because you would lay on the bathroom floor sick? It's awful to feel that way, I'm sorry it happens to you.

 

I'm trying to clean up my diet, but it's hard. I haven't had any bread for I think 4 days now maybe? I love bread. But I'm not giving up my 1 coke a day. I drink water. I don't drink and quit smoking 2 years ago.

 

Sorry you can't meditate. I have an app on my phone called Calm. It helps. You don't really meditate but it calms you down, just like the title says.

 

I am going to counseling. Because I'm angry right now and don't know why. I have to get over it and be thankful for what I have.

 

I have nothing where I live to distract me. It's all open. No stores. I say that all the time. Cows, corn, wheat, and tumbleweeds. It's awful. I'll be glad when we move back to civilization.

 

Thanks for trying to help me. I appreciate it.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

 

 

 

[joy2730]

Hi Frogie

 

You may be angry because you don't feel you have full control over your life?  It is awful not to have control over everything around you but in my experience you need a lot of money to be able to do just what you want to make you happy and most people don't have a lot of money.

 

Yes, I said I took Phenergan for stomach nausea, and yes it has been so bad for me that I haven't been able to stand up properly.  Still Phenergan, an antihistamine, in itself, is not a good drug to take. 

 

How often do you have therapy and what is it like?  I have never had any sort of counselling and have often fancied it.  I was diagnosed with manic depression and it was considered dangerous to give people with my diagnoses therapy and would hindered progress.  Now I believe that I never had manic depression at all and that it was really mainly from an abusive childhood and abusive relationships.  What a load of twaddle, counselling might have been good for me.

 

Perhaps you should keep a diary of your nausea to try to work out your triggers.

 

My daughter is convinced her Mirena contraceptive device is causing her to feel tired and gain weight, but I know it is the trouble she is having with her father, my husband, at present.  We are planning to leave our farm and move to a house but it is all going wrong as everyone is falling out over the finances and my son is trying to dupe everyone to his advantage.  So my daughter has managed to persuade her GP to change her coil to one called Copper 7, but I know it is because she loves her father deeply and her father is now not wanting anything more to do with her in life, as she has asked for a financial settlement herself.  I suppose the point I am trying to make is that our health problems tend to be more complex than we think and sometimes are rooted in our social relationships.  My husband and I are possibly getting divorced over all this trouble as it may be the only way to get things sorted, but I am strangely fine with that, and would love to live on my own, away from all the hassle.

 

How is Brownie these days?   What is your weather like at present, as you like it, or not what you would want?  Are you sleeping OK, how is your appetite, do you cook?  Do you read books, watch TV, do housework?  Or does your nausea and withdrawal interfere with all this type of activity?

 

I note from your signature you are on a very low dose of AD now, and having put 'feeling great' in brackets on 31 March so it can't always be that bad.  Do you feel more depressed and anxious than when you were taking a full dose and before starting to taper?

 

I am just curious to get a picture of your life, no need to reply if you don't wish Frogie and no need to answer the questions?  You said you were on disability money, is it sufficient to live well, or is lack of money always a background stressor.