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direstraits

Hi @Frogie

so happy to read how well you're doing!

you're getting there my friend.

hugs,ds

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pinkfairy

Just stopping by to say a quick hello froggie ūüíď

take care 

pink xxxx

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Frogie

Hi DS and Pink:

 

Thanks for stopping by. I don't get on much anymore. I'm doing ok.

 

If you want to chit-chat I have a thread called Frogie's Topic. 

 

This thread is for me to talk to the mods and to post questions.

 

Would love to talk to you there. 

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

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manymoretodays

Hi Frogie,

I had looked at your tapering with your last posting and once again and I'm not sure I'm following your rationale of dosage drops.

30 April- 1.5 mg 

31 May- 1.0 mg (34% drop from 1.5 mg)

30 June- 0.9 mg (10% drop from 1.0 mg)

31 July- 0.8 mg (12% drop from 0.9 mg)

 

So I'm a bit concerned that the 34% drop at the end of May may catch up to you.   As well as the 10% reductions rather than a more micro tapering approach.

You may want to consider a longer hold rather than a race to the finish.  As I said in PM.........often too rapid reductions may have a way of catching up with you.  And if you are considering something like a move in the near future.......... you may find it better to take a good long hold of several months until your home situation is less stressful, and more settled.

 

What is the concentration of your liquid solution? mg/mL........I know we clarified on this awhile back.  And I want you to get the empowerment of finding and then knowing these things for yourself going forward.  Taking charge if you will.

 

How much are you taking in millileters(mL)?

 

We may need to consider further dilution for your dosage decreases as well.

I know you report feeling super, etc..........several times in your signature.........but I did note that you also were reporting super anxiety after one of your drops.

Thankfully you have reached a point of no nauseau(as reported in PM).......your liver healing hopefully as you have decreased your medication load quite a bit.

 

Xanax continues at 1 mg. three times a day?

 

All for now.......and mainly just wanted to clarify your rationale and math.  A bit concerned too........ with your 34% decrease at the end of May.  Feel free to double check my math there as well.

 

Love, peace, healing, and growth,

mmt

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19 minutes ago, manymoretodays said:

Hi Frogie,

I had looked at your tapering with your last posting and once again and I'm not sure I'm following your rationale of dosage drops.

30 April- 1.5 mg 

31 May- 1.0 mg (34% drop from 1.5 mg)

30 June- 0.9 mg (10% drop from 1.0 mg)

31 July- 0.8 mg (12% drop from 0.9 mg)

 

So I'm a bit concerned that the 34% drop at the end of May may catch up to you.   As well as the 10% reductions rather than a more micro tapering approach.

You may want to consider a longer hold rather than a race to the finish.  As I said in PM.........often too rapid reductions may have a way of catching up with you.  And if you are considering something like a move in the near future.......... you may find it better to take a good long hold of several months until your home situation is less stressful, and more settled.

 

What is the concentration of your liquid solution? mg/mL........I know we clarified on this awhile back.  And I want you to get the empowerment of finding and then knowing these things for yourself going forward.  Taking charge if you will.

 

How much are you taking in millileters(mL)?

 

We may need to consider further dilution for your dosage decreases as well.

I know you report feeling super, etc..........several times in your signature.........but I did note that you also were reporting super anxiety after one of your drops.

Thankfully you have reached a point of no nauseau(as reported in PM).......your liver healing hopefully as you have decreased your medication load quite a bit.

 

Xanax continues at 1 mg. three times a day?

 

All for now.......and mainly just wanted to clarify your rationale and math.  A bit concerned too........ with your 34% decrease at the end of May.  Feel free to double check my math there as well.

 

Love, peace, healing, and growth,

mmt

Hi:

 

I didn't realize it was a 34% drop. It never bothered me though. You are correct on your math. I was going by a spreadsheet that I saw on the site. Maybe I was reading it wrong?

 

This last taper though, the last 2 mornings I have woken up with a headache and a little nausea. But it goes away by noon at the latest so I wasn't worried about it. I'm sure it will go away in a few days, like it always has. I haven't lost my appetite or anything lol...

 

Right now I¬†am taking .8 ml. Isn't that the same as mg? Guess I'm confused ūüôÉ My liquid is a 1:1 ratio. I hope you can help me when the time comes to dilute it.¬†

 

We aren't moving until the end of the year/beginning of next year. I wish we were moving sooner, but the timing is not right.

 

Still taking 1 mg Xanax 3 times a day. The dr wanted me to start tapering that, but I talked to him and he gave me a 6 month refill. So I'm good for at least 6 months on that.

 

I really appreciate you checking on me. I'm greatful to have people helping me with this. And this site, it's fantastic.

 

I hope you are doing well.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

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Frogie

I woke up this morning with no nausea and no headache.

 

Maybe I'm going to make it ūüėä

 

Hope everyone is doing well.

 

Thank you MMT for all your help yesterday! Please write me when you have time. ūüėéūüĆĽ

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

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Happy2Heal

that's wonderful Frogie

I'm so happy for you

 

 

 

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14 minutes ago, Happy2Heal said:

that's wonderful Frogie

I'm so happy for you

 

 

 

Thank you. And thank you for your kind thoughts and words about Brownie. Yes she was sick but doing well. Then in one day she was gone. She was my soulmate as you know and it's still tearing me up. She will be gone 3 months this Friday. Thank you for being so kind.

 

Hope you are doing well.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

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Junglechicken
1 hour ago, Frogie said:

I woke up this morning with no nausea and no headache.

 

Maybe I'm going to make it ūüėä

 

Hope everyone is doing well.

 

Thank you MMT for all your help yesterday! Please write me when you have time. ūüėéūüĆĽ

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

 

Great news Frogie!

 

there is a general shift in a positive direction re: your updates :)

 

This time, you're inspiring me, lol.

 

JC xx

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1 minute ago, Junglechicken said:

 

Great news Frogie!

 

there is a general shift in a positive direction re: your updates :)

 

This time, you're inspiring me, lol.

 

JC xx

Thanks JC:

 

I'm really trying to be positive through all of this, although it does get difficult once in a while. I just don't get on a whole lot anymore.

 

I'm glad I could inspire you a little, instead of the other way around.

 

I hope you are doing better since being on your AB's.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

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Junglechicken
4 minutes ago, Frogie said:

Thanks JC:

 

I'm really trying to be positive through all of this, although it does get difficult once in a while. I just don't get on a whole lot anymore.

 

I'm glad I could inspire you a little, instead of the other way around.

 

I hope you are doing better since being on your AB's.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

 

You're doing really well Frogie.

 

My therapist wants me to work through the CBT book "Mind over Mood - Change how you feel by changing the way you think".

 

Once we move into more positive thinking, this reduces our physical symptoms as we are less stressed/depressed.

 

Its my last mountain to climb, however, ND says I don't need to climb any mountain, I can choose the easy route through the valley.

 

All part of our recovery "journey".

 

jC xx

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7 minutes ago, Junglechicken said:

 

You're doing really well Frogie.

 

My therapist wants me to work through the CBT book "Mind over Mood - Change how you feel by changing the way you think".

 

Once we move into more positive thinking, this reduces our physical symptoms as we are less stressed/depressed.

 

Its my last mountain to climb, however, ND says I don't need to climb any mountain, I can choose the easy route through the valley.

 

All part of our recovery "journey".

 

jC xx

I'm doing CBT with my therapist. She doesn't take no for an answer lol... It's helping a lot. You really need to do CBT with your therapist. It's not one program to do alone.

 

I have a lot of mountains yet to climb. I'm not off Lexapro and have Xanax next. But I'm going to make it.

 

I appreciate you saying I'm doing well. That helps a lot.

 

If you want to chit chat come over to my Frogie's Off Topic. Would be great to hear from you.

 

How are you feeling since you are on AB's? I hope better.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

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Junglechicken
25 minutes ago, Frogie said:

I'm doing CBT with my therapist. She doesn't take no for an answer lol... It's helping a lot. You really need to do CBT with your therapist. It's not one program to do alone.

 

I have a lot of mountains yet to climb. I'm not off Lexapro and have Xanax next. But I'm going to make it.

 

I appreciate you saying I'm doing well. That helps a lot.

 

If you want to chit chat come over to my Frogie's Off Topic. Would be great to hear from you.

 

How are you feeling since you are on AB's? I hope better.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

 

Yes, the ABs knocked the infection on the head, but my gut is now playing up.

 

will pop over to your off-topic thread next time.

 

Glad the CBT is helping you!

 

TC,

JC xx

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Frogie

I have a mod question. It is not life or death, but if someone could get back to me that would be great!

 

I have been on liquid Lexapro since January, 2017. The brand name is Camber.

 

When I went to get it refilled, the brand is now Lannett. I talked to the pharmacist and because it is a small town, family owned pharmacy they are ordering medicine that is the least expensive for them. I can understand that. I explained that I really didn't want to change brands, could they order the Camber for me and they talked to the owner. Unfortunately, the owner said no because the price had gone up quite a bit.

 

My question is: Is the brand change going to hurt me? The pharmacist looked up the information on both brands and said there was no difference in the ingredients.

 

I appreciate someone answering me when you get time. 

 

I hope everyone is doing well...

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

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Rosetta

How much do you have left of the old brand?  If none, try offering to pay the difference to get a bottle of the old stuff so you can have the option of mixing old with new until you gradually get over to the new. I've seen other people say they are doing this, but   I hope a Mod can help you determine how to slowly switch over.  I'm not sure exactly how you would do it in this case 

 

Maybe you feel well enough to drive to a different pharmacy?  I hope so.  You are moving in January?

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32 minutes ago, Rosetta said:

How much do you have left of the old brand?  If none, try offering to pay the difference to get a bottle of the old stuff so you can have the option of mixing old with new until you gradually get over to the new. I've seen other people say they are doing this, but   I hope a Mod can help you determine how to slowly switch over.  I'm not sure exactly how you would do it in this case 

 

Maybe you feel well enough to drive to a different pharmacy?  I hope so.  You are moving in January?

Hi:

 

I have enough of the old brand for maybe 3-4 weeks.

 

Unfortunately, there isn't another pharmacy near me in the same state. The next pharmacy is in the next state 50 miles away and they don't take my insurance. It's about $200 a bottle. My co-pay is $3.35.

 

I'm sure a mod can help me. 

 

We are hoping to be able to move the beginning of next year. Not soon enough for me lol...

 

Thanks for your help. 

 

I hope you you are doing well.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

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Rosetta

Perfect!  Get your new bottle right away and keep bumping your post if you have to.  

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3 minutes ago, Rosetta said:

Perfect!  Get your new bottle right away and keep bumping your post if you have to.  

I went ahead and got my bottle.

 

I don't know how to "bump" my post?

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apace41

Frogie,

 

Unfortunately, there is no way to know for sure whether one generic form of a medicine is exactly the same as another generic form of a medicine.  There are stories on the site of people who have had issues when they are forced to switch from one generic to another, but I believe them to be more the exception rather than the rule, and that most people do reasonably well switching from one generic to another.  You have not seemed to be overly sensitive to the medicine (as compared to some) so my best guess is that you won't have a major problem -- maybe a couple of days of minor symptoms.  If you want to be more careful you can do something to change over more slowly, for example use your medication day 1, the other day 2 and so on for a week, then do yours for a day and the other for 2 days, etc.

 

I don't think you should stress too much about it.

 

Happy to hear from others who have different ideas.

 

Best,

 

Andy

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14 hours ago, apace41 said:

Frogie,

 

Unfortunately, there is no way to know for sure whether one generic form of a medicine is exactly the same as another generic form of a medicine.  There are stories on the site of people who have had issues when they are forced to switch from one generic to another, but I believe them to be more the exception rather than the rule, and that most people do reasonably well switching from one generic to another.  You have not seemed to be overly sensitive to the medicine (as compared to some) so my best guess is that you won't have a major problem -- maybe a couple of days of minor symptoms.  If you want to be more careful you can do something to change over more slowly, for example use your medication day 1, the other day 2 and so on for a week, then do yours for a day and the other for 2 days, etc.

 

I don't think you should stress too much about it.

 

Happy to hear from others who have different ideas.

 

Best,

 

Andy

Thanks Andy:

 

I'm just going to switch. Like you said I shouldn't have much trouble. Hopefully a couple of days with minor symptoms. I'll just push through them.

 

I appreciate you helping me out.

 

Hope you are doing better.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

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On August 19, 2018 at 4:09 PM, Rosetta said:

Perfect!  Get your new bottle right away and keep bumping your post if you have to.  

Hi Rosetta:

 

I forgot to say thank you for your help. I'm sorry for being rude.

 

It was greatly appreciated. 

 

You are very kind. I hope you continue to do well.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

 

 

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Blondiee1915

Hi Frogie, 

 

Hope you are doing well.  

 

I was recently diagnosed with hypothyroidism and see that you were on Armour Thyroid which is the medication that I got prescribed as well.  It looks like you were not tolerating it well?  Can you share a little bit about your experience with it and how you are doing now and your thyroid labs?  Also, when did you develop thyroid issues while on lexapro or when you were tapering?  I started medication 3 days ago and today feeling flu like symptoms.  I am hoping it is my body adjusting and not an allergic reaction. 

 

B

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1 hour ago, Blondiee1915 said:

Hi Frogie, 

 

Hope you are doing well.  

 

I was recently diagnosed with hypothyroidism and see that you were on Armour Thyroid which is the medication that I got prescribed as well.  It looks like you were not tolerating it well?  Can you share a little bit about your experience with it and how you are doing now and your thyroid labs?  Also, when did you develop thyroid issues while on lexapro or when you were tapering?  I started medication 3 days ago and today feeling flu like symptoms.  I am hoping it is my body adjusting and not an allergic reaction. 

 

B

Hi:

 

I was diagnosed in May, 2017. My TSH was high, everything else was perfect. I was prescribed Levothyroxine first and took it for 4 days and threw up for 4 days. The dr changed me to Armour, and I felt like I had the flu and shook internally the whole time I was on it. So we tried synthroid. My heart felt like it was going to beat right out of my chest. The last one was NP Throid. I did ok with it. It took my TSH down to 3.03, but when the dr upped the dosage my TSH went up. In July of this year my TSH was 4.38 (high is 4.50). The dr decided since it was just my TSH and everything else was normal he would just watch it. I watch what I eat, no soy, broccoli, things like that. He thinks it might be subclinical hypothyroidism because it happened since I have been tapering. My brother in law had the same problem with Armour. He felt like he had the flu and shook internally. As long as you don't have any tumors or anything on your thyroid and your other numbers are ok, you can just watch your TSH. It can even be a little high as long as you feel alright.

 

Hope that helps. Good luck.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

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Blondiee1915

Thank you so much Frogie for sharing.  From what I read TSH is really not a good indicator and even when you get a full thyroid panel (T3, T4, Reverse T3) and the results are within range/normal it does not necessarily mean it is optimal.  I would not have looked into thyroid but my fatigue is still bad 2 years later.  My TSH is within range/normal but T3 and T4 are not optimal (even though they are within range).  So after measuring my temperature and doing additional test the doctor finally declared me hypothyroid.  Thankfully, I do not have any inner shakes just flu like feeling.  I will give it a bit more time.  

 

So you are off all thyroid medications?  And doing okay it seems?  You are almost off lexapro, that is amazing!

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