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LesleyAshmall

I'm a British BBC TV reporter and I want to make a film about the problems of withdrawing from antidepressants. I'm keen to hear from people who've struggled with SSRIs, particularly if you like in the UK. Also what you think about the lack of support groups, or if you HAVE a support group, how do you help?

Please email me your stories, confidentially at first, of course, although ultimately I'm looking for people who will be willing to stand up and speak about what's happened to them.  I think few people know or report this sort of problem and I know many of you are really really struggling for help.  My BBC2 programme wants to expose all this, so please get in touch.

Lesley.ashmall@bbc.co.uk

 

Thank you very much.  This forum has been recommended to me by several long-term members, so forgive my intrusion.

 

 

 

 

 

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nz11

Hi Lesley

So glad you are doing a programme on this. 

Its soo needed.

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Altostrata

Welcome, Lesley.

 

I've moved your topic to our forum for such announcements.

 

The difficulty of going off psychiatric drugs should get a lot more attention. Many physicians still do not acknowledge withdrawal syndrome.

 

You'll find a lot of background information in the Introductions, Tapering, and Symptoms and Self-Care forums on this site.

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nz11

I think few people know or report this sort of problem

When the problem is reported or answers sort for trauma experienced when coming off a chemical proclaimed to be not addictive the patient is blamed.

Often what results is people are told they are having a relapse, they have an underlying depression , they have a genetic predisposition to depression, they are labeled bipolar well actually you can read it all here What should I expect from my doctor about withdrawal symptoms?  and they are sent home with 'double the dose.' A learned helplessness sets in because getting off the drug is so difficult and the suffering so unbearable, long lasting and inescapable that many resign themselves to being on for life.

 

Please email me your stories

I would just like to tell you that there are over 16,000 stories already here available for public viewing.(checkout the intro threads..threads like mitch and tgirl and blue)...and that number is added to daily as people stumble upon this site seeking answers having lost all trust in their doctors.

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peng

Ah, the revered BeebBeebCeeb 2!

 

Should do a reasonably balanced presentation of the subject, with a bit of luck.  I have been a viewer for over 60 years.

 

Science/medical programs tend to be done reasonably well compared with other networks, I guess, but everything under the sun is liable to descend into dubious, sensationalist, tabloidism to attract viewers and attention.  A sign of the times and, such is the fare we have to expect to be served up nowadays, as "disgusted of Bexhill-on-Sea's" flood of letters to the editor over the decades have had no impact.  [wink].

 

"The Proms" - an annual summertime, several-week long, classical music concert & discussion event - is the only thing I think I trust almost 100%, now.

Earth Wind & Fire in concert with the BBC Philharmonic Orchestra a couple of years ago - couldn't have thought up a better gig myself.

 

I watch a lot of the BBC's other offerings, and I wish them well with the subject in question, which seems to become a more topical concern with every day that passes.

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Junglechicken

At long last!

 

A programme to be our voice......tell our story or should I say drama?

 

Relieved that you are here Lesley.

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Daisy1

Is this pecificilally withdrawal ? Would you also be interested in hearing from people who have had severe adverse reactions too ?

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westcoast

Dear Lesley,

 

The only thing that will stop the ongoing assault on life and happiness that is caused by psychiatric drugs is publicity. The FDA knows. MHRA knows. Some doctors know. But there is no pressure on them to do anything. And since some people benefit greatly, namely drug makers and prescribers who get patients-for-life from the drugs, and those people are (on the face of it) more credible than former patients, there is pressure on them to do nothing.

If a car is known to have a design flaw that makes it crash, catch fire, or explode, no matter how rarely, the problem has to be fixed. It's understood that people don't deliberately crash their cars.

 

When a psych drug is known to cause suicide, mania, psychosis, or violence, warnings are added to the labeling. There's no recall. No redesign. It is believed that the problem is in the patient. Maybe it is, in some patients. But not in most of us. If someone says "I am not suicidal and never had been before I took this drug, and three days after starting it, I tried to hang myself," that person should be believed. I think a lot of people want to believe them, but are swayed by the loudest experts, who happen to be wrong. At any given time, there are only a tiny number of these experts. At present, in the US, it's Jeffrey Lieberman, who said, during an "Ask Me Anything" session on Reddit last year:


Psychiatry has the dubious distinction of being the only medical specialty with an anti movement. you never hear of an anti dermotology movement or anti cardiology movement. [because they're not full of mind-controlling drug prescribers? Any by the way, Accutane has an anti-accutane movement; it causes psychosis. Statins have an anti-statins movement; they cause memory defecit, severe depression, physical weakness, and pain.] 

 

Apart from scientologists, the majority of these people including Robert Whitaker, have unfounded idealogical grudges against psychiatry [False. Whitaker's investigation of Lieberman's cruel experimentation on first episode psychosis patients, to whom he gave speed in order to see how much worse it made them, is what got Whitaker interested]

 

...or have had bad personal experiences. [Yer dern'd right about that, sonny.]

 

Unfortunately it's also the case that some people with severe mental illness and don't believe that they are ill criticize psychiatry because to do otherwise would be to acknowledge their infirmity. [Maybe, but more people without serious mental illness criticize it, and people who do acknowledge their "infirmities" criticize it. Being diagnosed with a serious mental illness doesn't mean someone is stupid or illogical, and if they are illogical at times, that does mean they are always illogical. Such people can read, and can read the medical literature that informs and supports what they have to say.]
 

and 

 

In virtually all cases the perpetrators who were uniformly young men had a severe mental disorder and were not receiving treatment. [False. The only exception I know of was Jared Loughner. He used recreational drugs.] So in my opinion, the key factor which permitted these disasters was the lack of treatment that was available but not administered for whatever reasons to these 

individuals. In this regard, the notion that SSRI's being a causal factor is completely inaccurate. First because most of these people were not receiving medications and were impelled by their symptoms and even if they were receiving an SSRI this does not motivate violent behavior. [False! It's on the warnings that come with the drugs for a reason.]
 

As long as he is the most-consulted expert in the US, people won't be safe. The incredibly harmful falsehood about school and mall-shooters being untreated mentally ill people was used to promote a terrible mental health bill called SR2646 (aka the Murphy bill), which is now just one voting session away from passing the senate. Lieberman testified and also advised Senator Tim Murphy. Of the hundreds of representatives in the House of Representatives, only two voted against it. I was wondering whereby Murphy came to believe that and write it in "one-pager" PDF on murphy.house.gov. It could have come from Lieberman. (At what point does someone sue Lieberman for these false public pronouncements? He intends to influence people, to cause them to decide in favor of drugs. Someone who did so and was harmed should take him to task.)

 

Many of us have written letters to doctors, reporters, the FDA/MHRA, and drug companies and made it very clear how badly harmed we were, or are. It hasn't made a difference. If the media were relentless on this issue, treating it the same way they treat pedophilia, cigarette smoking, and defective automobiles, the status quo might finally be seen for what it is: wrong, and unacceptable. 

What would it take to sway writers, magazine and newspaper editors, and video producers? Do you think they could all be "come onboard" (as they already have regarding pedophiles, for example) in the next ... 5 years? 

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Altostrata

I believe Lesley would like to interview people personally. Please contact her if you would like to do this.

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btdt

WC these companies have many investors they take their cut.... we don't know who they may be it is not just the pharma owners top brass workers ect... investors... surely they see something of this conflict still they invest it is a money making proposition.  Publicity may cause some to pull out their bucks we could hope... not sure how much difference it would make at this point.

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