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On 2/13/2020 at 10:23 AM, Gridley said:

 I'm having a good morning

 

Hello Gridley

 

Good news! Sorry - I meant was it raining or cloudy when I asked good weather.

 

The shrimp dish sounds delectable! Being the clever one that you are, I wonder if you can 'guess' at the ingredients and make it yourself? 😉   I love swordfish and salmon. I imagine they are things you can't get in Ecuador?  Maybe a dumb question....

 

16 hours ago, Frogie said:

I’m on the 3rd day of a very low dosage steroid because of my tapering. But it’s running down my arm. Not pinching today though, so I think I’m on the uphill with healing.

 

I am very glad your pinched nerve improved and hope it is doing better today as well. 💓

 

Hope a good day for you  both

G.

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1 hour ago, Giulietta said:

. I imagine they are things you can't get in Ecuador?  Maybe a dumb question....

Salmon is available but it's GMO and raised in Chile.  No wild salmon.  No oysters or crab, so when I make gumbo it has to be only with shrimp.  The most readily available fish is sea bass.  

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements

Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg 

Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper.  Current dose as of Feb 22, 2022: 4.8mg 

March 22, 2022: hold at 4.8 and shift to Imipramine taper

Taper is 74% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan-Sept 2016 tapered to 16mg.  

Held until Aug 2021, tapered for 4 weeks to 14.4mg

March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper.  Current dose as of April 19: 11.7mg 

Taper is 84.4% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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33 minutes ago, Gridley said:

GMO and raised in Chile

 

33 minutes ago, Gridley said:

gumbo it has to be only with shrimp

 

Tunafish here (canned) is all from East Asia and likely GMO. I hate to buy it. Canned Salmon I think is mostly the same.

 

I've enjoyed homemade cajun shrimp gumbo by a southern friend and it's delicious. 😉

 

 

 

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Hey @Gridley, just dropping by to say hello and hope you are bearing up in these challenging times. 

Sending love and good wishes xxx

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, sunnysideup69 said:

Hey @Gridley, just dropping by to say hello and hope you are bearing up in these challenging times. 

Sending love and good wishes xxx

Love to you too, Sunnysideup.  I am bearing up and hope you are too.

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements

Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg 

Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper.  Current dose as of Feb 22, 2022: 4.8mg 

March 22, 2022: hold at 4.8 and shift to Imipramine taper

Taper is 74% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan-Sept 2016 tapered to 16mg.  

Held until Aug 2021, tapered for 4 weeks to 14.4mg

March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper.  Current dose as of April 19: 11.7mg 

Taper is 84.4% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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Just now, Gridley said:

Love to you too, Sunnysideup.  I am bearing up and hope you are too.

 I am! A bit wavey here and there, but nothing I can't cope with :) 

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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I am glad you are continuing to be well and not having to add stress by going out. An article in the NYT says that going outside is very important. Will copy/paste in my thread.

 

 

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51 minutes ago, Giulietta said:

going outside

Done.  Thanks for reminding me.

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements

Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg 

Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper.  Current dose as of Feb 22, 2022: 4.8mg 

March 22, 2022: hold at 4.8 and shift to Imipramine taper

Taper is 74% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan-Sept 2016 tapered to 16mg.  

Held until Aug 2021, tapered for 4 weeks to 14.4mg

March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper.  Current dose as of April 19: 11.7mg 

Taper is 84.4% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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16 hours ago, Gridley said:

Done.  Thanks for reminding me.

 

I forget as well as I can be hyperfocused on activities - which are often indoors. I will try a timer to go out when the weather is good. I am trying to avoid out of doors when it is cold, damp or windy to minimize the chances of catching a cold, weakening immune system.

 

Do you like listening to music?

 

I new CD arrived yesterday - piano music - so that is relaxing and helps with mindfulness. Unfortunately it will takek me 30 min or so fo sync it with my iphone.

 

Hugs,

G.

 

 

 

 

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Good morning Gridley:

 

I jumped on really quick to write something and noticed how low you are getting with your Lexapro.

 

 I just wanted to say congratulations! You’re almost there!
 

I hope you are doing well. Miss talking with you 😊Give the fur babies a hug from me.

 

Take care,

 Frogie xx

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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42 minutes ago, Frogie said:

Give the fur babies a hug from me.

 

Frogie,

 

Consider it done.  Humphrey is on the coffee table in front of me eyeing my scrambled eggs.  He and Yapa get to lick the plate when I'm finished.

 

Thanks for your encouragement.  I'm getting pretty low.  So are you--July is not far off.  0.30mgai is really getting down there.  I'm hope you're bearing up well with the taper.

 

Gridley

 

 

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements

Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg 

Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper.  Current dose as of Feb 22, 2022: 4.8mg 

March 22, 2022: hold at 4.8 and shift to Imipramine taper

Taper is 74% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan-Sept 2016 tapered to 16mg.  

Held until Aug 2021, tapered for 4 weeks to 14.4mg

March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper.  Current dose as of April 19: 11.7mg 

Taper is 84.4% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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6 minutes ago, Gridley said:

Frogie,

 

Consider it done.  Humphrey is on the coffee table in front of me eyeing my scrambled eggs.  He and Yapa get to lick the plate when I'm finished.

 

Thanks for your encouragement.  I'm getting pretty low.  So are you--July is not far off.  0.30mgai is really getting down there.  I'm hope you're bearing up well with the taper.

 

Gridley

 

 

I can picture him watching you take the last bite. Delilah had an egg this morning and gobbled it down, along with her food. We call her Chunky Monkey lol...

 

You are getting really low, that’s wonderful. You’ll be off in no time, then on to the Ativan. Just be careful. It’s so much different than the Lexapro taper, at least my Xanax is.

 

 I’m pushing through the taper. No choice. And life goes on through this awful way of the world right now. I’ll be so happy to see summer and my family and friends again😊

 

Hang in there. You’re almost there!

 

Take care,

 Frogie xx

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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On 3/22/2020 at 3:34 PM, Gridley said:

Done.  Thanks for reminding me.

Are you able to taper faster now that you're under 1 mg.?  I'm down to 0.79 sertraline and looking forward to zero!

Terry

2007 - 2008          Paxil and Klonopin

2008 - 2012           Mirtazapine following CT from Klonopin/Paxil.  

2012                       Unsuccessful taper of mirtazapine; reinstated.     

7/2013 - 1/2014   Successfully tapered mirtazapine from 7.5 mg to 0.00.

 

Sertraline (Zoloft) Taper  Aug 4, 2017 - July 18, 2021 - Current dose 0.00

Alprazolam (Xanax)  July 19, 2017 - Nov 15, 2021 0.25 mg.

Began 10% taper  Nov 16, 2021 - 0.25  Jan 11, 2022 - 0.203;  Feb 8 - 0.182;  Mar 7 - 0.165;  Apr 12 - 0.148; May 9 - 0.133; Taper is 47% complete.

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11 minutes ago, Terry said:

Are you able to taper faster now that you're under 1 mg

No, I'm still trying to stick to 10% of current dose every 4 weeks.  Due to the limitations of the scale, I'm tapering by dropping by 1mg pill weight every four weeks (so I dropped for 7mg  pill weight to 6 last week).  This is a bit higher than 10% but the end game is different from before due to the measurement difficulties.  Once I get the the limits of the scale (it doesn't measure accurately below 4mg pill weight), I'll be doing a visual division.  I'm a couple of months from that point.  Brassmonkey, one of our moderators, is putting together a post on exactly this subject, which should appear soon.  

 

0.79mg active ingredient is way too high to jump to zero.  Wait until Brassmonkey's post appears, which will give very good guidance on when to jump to zero,

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements

Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg 

Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper.  Current dose as of Feb 22, 2022: 4.8mg 

March 22, 2022: hold at 4.8 and shift to Imipramine taper

Taper is 74% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan-Sept 2016 tapered to 16mg.  

Held until Aug 2021, tapered for 4 weeks to 14.4mg

March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper.  Current dose as of April 19: 11.7mg 

Taper is 84.4% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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18 hours ago, Gridley said:

0.79mg active ingredient is way too high to jump to zero.  Wait until Brassmonkey's post appears, which will give very good guidance on when to jump to zero,

Oh, I would never jump off at this point.  I'm guessing I'll have maybe another year of tapering.  I look forward to seeing Brassmonkey's post.

 

Did you ever try making a solution of your Lexapro for tapering?

2007 - 2008          Paxil and Klonopin

2008 - 2012           Mirtazapine following CT from Klonopin/Paxil.  

2012                       Unsuccessful taper of mirtazapine; reinstated.     

7/2013 - 1/2014   Successfully tapered mirtazapine from 7.5 mg to 0.00.

 

Sertraline (Zoloft) Taper  Aug 4, 2017 - July 18, 2021 - Current dose 0.00

Alprazolam (Xanax)  July 19, 2017 - Nov 15, 2021 0.25 mg.

Began 10% taper  Nov 16, 2021 - 0.25  Jan 11, 2022 - 0.203;  Feb 8 - 0.182;  Mar 7 - 0.165;  Apr 12 - 0.148; May 9 - 0.133; Taper is 47% complete.

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41 minutes ago, Terry said:

 

Did you ever try making a solution of your Lexapro for tapering

No, I've always stuck with weighing powder from the tablet.

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements

Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg 

Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper.  Current dose as of Feb 22, 2022: 4.8mg 

March 22, 2022: hold at 4.8 and shift to Imipramine taper

Taper is 74% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan-Sept 2016 tapered to 16mg.  

Held until Aug 2021, tapered for 4 weeks to 14.4mg

March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper.  Current dose as of April 19: 11.7mg 

Taper is 84.4% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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Hello Gridley

 

Stopping by to see how you are doing with the lexapro. It's nice that BrassMonkey and another moderator are writing a post on measuring small dosages with limited tools. 

 

On 4/1/2020 at 1:59 PM, Gridley said:

No, I've always stuck with weighing powder from the tablet.

 

Did you consider this? Out of curiosity I wonder why you stuck with the powder. I wonder if if is for the sake of consistency?

 

Hope you are well. sending a quick PM

 

G

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1 hour ago, Giulietta said:

 

Did you consider this? Out of curiosity I wonder why you stuck with the powder.

 

I was just never comfortable with the liquid and couldn't wrap my head around how to do it.  

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements

Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg 

Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper.  Current dose as of Feb 22, 2022: 4.8mg 

March 22, 2022: hold at 4.8 and shift to Imipramine taper

Taper is 74% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan-Sept 2016 tapered to 16mg.  

Held until Aug 2021, tapered for 4 weeks to 14.4mg

March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper.  Current dose as of April 19: 11.7mg 

Taper is 84.4% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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2 hours ago, Gridley said:

I was just never comfortable with the liquid and couldn't wrap my head around how to do it.  

 

I understand the 'comfortable' concept after my experience. 🤕 I not sure about the distribution of the drug ingredient in the liquid either, etc.

 

That being said - do you put your powder in capsules?

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41 minutes ago, Giulietta said:

 

That being said - do you put your powder in capsules?

Yes, I weigh the powder then pour it onto a piece of bent LabExact weighing paper and pour it into the capsule. I make a week's worth at a time.  I discovered this week if I don't grind the powder too fine it won't stick to the weighing paper so I get my full dose (I was having trouble with that the last batch).

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements

Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg 

Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper.  Current dose as of Feb 22, 2022: 4.8mg 

March 22, 2022: hold at 4.8 and shift to Imipramine taper

Taper is 74% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan-Sept 2016 tapered to 16mg.  

Held until Aug 2021, tapered for 4 weeks to 14.4mg

March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper.  Current dose as of April 19: 11.7mg 

Taper is 84.4% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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18 hours ago, Gridley said:

 I discovered this week if I don't grind the powder too fine it won't stick to the weighing paper

 

I don't follow. Do you mean you need to grind it very fine - or you shoudl not grind it very fine?

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5 minutes ago, Giulietta said:

you shoudl not grind it very fine?

 

I was grinding it too fine, so that some of the powder was sticking on the weighing paper.  I'd say medium fine.  You can experiment to see what works best for you.

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements

Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg 

Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper.  Current dose as of Feb 22, 2022: 4.8mg 

March 22, 2022: hold at 4.8 and shift to Imipramine taper

Taper is 74% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan-Sept 2016 tapered to 16mg.  

Held until Aug 2021, tapered for 4 weeks to 14.4mg

March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper.  Current dose as of April 19: 11.7mg 

Taper is 84.4% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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A little "bad housekeeping" can be helpful.  Reuse the same paper each time. After the first use there will be a small amount of powder that will stick to the paper. This will keep subsequent powder from sticking and you will be getting the full dose.  You can "prime" the paper by applying some unweighed powder and pouring it off then gentally tapping the paper to remove the loose powder a couple of times before you start actually weighing your dose.

 

Also it doesn't matter if a tiny amount is lost. Firstly because the amount of powder that actually sticks is so small it doesn't contain enough Active Ingredient to really measure, and because consistency is the most important thing. If your dose is off by the same amount each time your body doesn't know the difference. The actual numbers are more for record keeping and reference. Making your reductions by the set percentage each time is more important than the actual dose weight.

20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Final Dose 0.016mg.     Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking

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Hello, Gridley.  I hope you are doing well. -Rosetta

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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On 4/5/2020 at 10:35 AM, Gridley said:

I was grinding it too fine, so that some of the powder was sticking on the weighing paper.  I'd say medium fine.

 

I see now. Makes sense. Hope things are going better now with this.

 

On 4/5/2020 at 1:57 PM, brassmonkey said:

Reuse the same paper each time.

 

On 4/5/2020 at 1:57 PM, brassmonkey said:

Also it doesn't matter if a tiny amount is lost.

 

Good tips on recycling the paper particularly on a long taper and being consistent. 

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On 4/5/2020 at 11:54 PM, Rosetta said:

Hello, Gridley.  I hope you are doing well. -Rosetta

Thanks for dropping by, Rosetta. I'm doing well.  Maybe 5-6 more months to get off the Lexapro, maybe a little less, depending on how I'm able to handle the tiny amounts of powder, then on to the Ativan.  Very few symptoms except that sleep is just so-so.  

 

Ecuador has a very strict lockdown, we can only drive one day a week, one person per car,  and there's a 2pm to 5am curfew.  

 

I hope you're doing well.  I'm glad you got your trip to Spain in before all this.

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements

Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg 

Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper.  Current dose as of Feb 22, 2022: 4.8mg 

March 22, 2022: hold at 4.8 and shift to Imipramine taper

Taper is 74% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan-Sept 2016 tapered to 16mg.  

Held until Aug 2021, tapered for 4 weeks to 14.4mg

March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper.  Current dose as of April 19: 11.7mg 

Taper is 84.4% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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Me, too!  I’m glad that trip was when it was, and that we didn’t find a way to stay until June.  
 

Our rules here aren’t that intense, but the only place we go is to the store one person at a time.  We can go for a walk on the streets anytime.  Some parks are closed others are not.  Today, we are having a rainstorm.  The most intense storm in quite a while.  There’s no lightening or thunder, but a lot of water is falling.  Not a good day to be out.

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/16629-rosetta-ct-may-2011-too-fast-taper-feb-2017/?page=25

2001-2011 Celexa 10 mg raised to 40 mg then 60 mg over this time period

May 2011 OB Doctor's Cold switch Celexa 60 mg to 10 mg Zoloft sertraline (baby born)

2012-2016 - Doctors raised dose of Zoloft up to 150 mg

2016 - Xanax prescribed - as needed - 0.5 mg about every 3 days (bad reaction)

2016 - Stopped Xanax

Late 2016- Began (too fast) taper of Zoloft

Early 2017 - Trazodone prescribed for bedtime (doseage unknown)

Feb 2017 - Completed taper/stopped Trazodone

Drug free since Feb 2017

2017 - Unisom otc very rarely for sleep

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Hello @Gridley! You have helped me so much these last few weeks, I wanted to stop by your string and see how you are doing. Thank you!

2008-2016 - Lexapro 10 mg, tapered to 2.5 mg over one year then CT without issues
Feb 2 - July 24, 2019 - restarted Lexapro 5 mg for insomnia

July 25 - Nov 19, 2019 - Lexapro 10 mg, resulted in increased anxiety and depression
Nov 20 - Dec 11, 2019 - 3-week FT from Lexapro 10 mg to 7.5 mg to 5 mg to 0
Dec 12, 2019 - Feb 4, 2020 - drug-free and feeling good until horrible WD hit
Feb 5 - Feb 16, 2020 - Paxil 10 mg, adverse reaction
Feb 18, 2020 - reinstated Lexapro 5 mg

Nov 22 - Dec 12, 2020 - transition from pill to homemade liquid

Dec 13, 2020 - 4.7 mg; Jan 3, 2021 - 4.5 mg; Jan 24 - 4.3 mg; Feb 14 - 4.2 mg; March 7 - 4.1 mg

 

daily meditation 10-40 minutes, yoga 30 minutes; CBT & ACT therapy

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1 hour ago, Cigale said:

and see how you are doing

I'm doing pretty well.  Thanks for asking.  Some symptoms but managing okay.  Tomorrow I drop to 0.4mg Lexapro, so I have just a few more months before jumping to zero.  Then I'll move on to the Ativan.  Poco a poco, as they say in Spanish (little by little).

 

 

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements

Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg 

Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper.  Current dose as of Feb 22, 2022: 4.8mg 

March 22, 2022: hold at 4.8 and shift to Imipramine taper

Taper is 74% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan-Sept 2016 tapered to 16mg.  

Held until Aug 2021, tapered for 4 weeks to 14.4mg

March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper.  Current dose as of April 19: 11.7mg 

Taper is 84.4% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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Congrats on getting so low Gridley!  

2002 Escitalopram 10 mg

2018 2.5 mg - stopped by Dr./Reinstated, up-dosed to 7.5 mg

04/19 Began BM slide

CURRENT  0.85 mg 🌼

 

"If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth."

Mark 9:23

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Wow, Gridley - you should be so proud of this accomplishment!!

-1/06 - 3/07 Cymbalta. Fast taper; withdrawal symptoms after 4 mos (didn't realize was WD)

-10/07: 100 mg Zoloft; 1 mg Klonopin - tapered off Klonopin
-Tried several times to slowly taper Zoloft by 10%, then 5% every 4-6 weeks; could never get below approx. 40 mg - spring 2012 experienced major WD symptoms due to stress; tried to updose but no relief, back on Klonopin 1 mg.
-Switched over 5-6 mos from Zoloft to Citalopram. Finished Zoloft 1/13; Citalopram 35 mg and 1 mg Klonopin.
-8/13: 27 mg Citalopram; 1 mg Klonopin

-11/14: 12.6 Citalopram - began to have bad withdrawal symptoms; out of desperation increased to 1.25 mg Klonopin at the beginning of December.  12/13/14 16 mg Citalopram - going to stay here to try to stabilize; stabilized on 16 mg Citalopram after 4-5 months

-7/15 - 3/16: reduced to 15 mg; ~ 2 months later w/d hit hard (probably r/t stress); 6/16 updosed to 20 mg Citalopram and trying to stabilize. Updosed to 1.5 Klonopin as well. Stabilized on 20 mg Citalopram after 4-5 months

8/17-9/17: feeling withdrawal symptoms at 20 mg Citalopram (due to stress) - slowly increased to 25 mg. No change in symptoms after 6 months (? tolerance ?)  - decided to start citalopram taper February 2018 (still on Klonopin 1.5 mg).

Supplements: fish oil; magnesium; vitamin D3; curcumin

Citalopram taper:  2/2018 - 12/2019: 25 mg - 11.03 mg I 2020: 10.89 mg - 7.9 mg I 2021: 7.8 mg - 5.26 mg

2022: 1/5/22: 5.2 mg (1.25%); 1/12/22: 5.1 mg (1.25%); 1/19/22: 5.07 mg (1.25%); 1/26/22: 5.0 mg (1.25%); 5/1/22: 4.9 mg (1.25%); 5/8/22: 4.88 mg; 5/15/22: 4.8 mg  (1.25%)

 

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Way to go Gridley. Just don't rush things, listen to your body and take the time it asks for.

20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Final Dose 0.016mg.     Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking

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@brassmonkey @wantrelief @mdwstrx  Thanks for your kind words.  I am definitely going to go slowly here at the end.  4mgpw is the lowest the scale will measure, so next month I'll eyeball to divide the 4mgpw into four 1mgpw  doses to get my next dose of 0.3mgai, then to get 0.2mgai, then to get 0.1mgai.  Then I'll divide that in half to get 0.05mgai, after which I'll jump to zero.  

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements

Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg 

Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper.  Current dose as of Feb 22, 2022: 4.8mg 

March 22, 2022: hold at 4.8 and shift to Imipramine taper

Taper is 74% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan-Sept 2016 tapered to 16mg.  

Held until Aug 2021, tapered for 4 weeks to 14.4mg

March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper.  Current dose as of April 19: 11.7mg 

Taper is 84.4% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, zinc, melatonin .3mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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48 minutes ago, Gridley said:

@brassmonkey @wantrelief @mdwstrx  Thanks for your kind words.  I am definitely going to go slowly here at the end.  4mgpw is the lowest the scale will measure, so next month I'll eyeball to divide the 4mgpw into four 1mgpw  doses to get my next dose of 0.3mgai, then to get 0.2mgai, then to get 0.1mgai.  Then I'll divide that in half to get 0.05mgai, after which I'll jump to zero.  

 

Thats really great gridley that you are about to jump to zero; i very happy for u❤️.

I hope a long life in happiness for u after u are drug free.

You are my friend gridley; oneday, i had a friend from america who is gridley❤️.

i wasn't on a certain drug all the period. i took many drugs many times and for no very long period but to simplify.

--fluvoxamine maleate100 mg + amisulpride 200mg------started july 2012 and total taper in february 2015 ( 9 months without drugs then)

--sertraline 100mg -------started november 2015 and total taper (withoud reduction slowly) in november 2016( 4 months withoud drugs then).

--sertraline 100mg + quetiabine 25mg ( started in mars 2016 and for 7 months) then fluvoxamine maleate 100mg again for another 7months and after that a something like to use every drug for 14 days and for about 1.5 years.

--my last drug was trintellix 10 mg ( used it in 12/2018and total taper in 4/2019).

symptomts i have now ( bad concentration and problems in short and long memory+ bad depersonalization).

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Just dropping by to say hello @Gridley and reading the news of your taper. I am so pleased for you :) 

January 2008 to April 2015 Citalopram 20mg to 5mg, reducing in 50 per cent leaps. Jumped off at 5mg

March 2016 used MDMA triggered setback

April 2016 Citalopram 10mg October 2016 cut to 5mg, May 2017 cut to 2.5mg

May 2018 used MDMA triggered setback

June 2018 Citalopram 2.5mg up to 10mg, then back to 5mg

July/ August 2018 7.5mg, then 10mg

June 2019 updosed to 20mg Citalopram

August 2019 cold switch to Venlafaxine 75mg XR

Supplements; 1100mg fish oil daily; also 100mg Magnesium Glycinate. Tried Vagifem 10mcg from mid May 2021 to mid June 2021; caused depression, so stopped.

 

 

 

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Way to go gridley!

 

I'm looking forward to your experiences while tapering that low. I really hope you are doing very well. I have faith in you going to be just fine. Good luck with that.

 

About running out of medication.... I was affraid about this also although here in the Netherlands things are pretty well regulated. They also changed brand all the time and that really made me very unwell.

 

What I did was the following. I went to my GP and told him I wanted to updose because I felt my citalopram wasn't working that well anymore. I was on 15 mg and went to 20 and a few weeks later I went to 30, anyway, that's what I told him....( I was still on 15 mg actually and tapering even lower).

 

I am on about 10 mg now but I have 30 mg prescribed daily. I have 20 mg per day left!

 

I get a 2 month supply every time but in my case that is actually 6 months(which costs me about 12 EUR). I did this a couple of times so I have enough citalopram to complete my entire taper!

 

I know this is not the fairest way to do things but the thought of not having enough medication is very distressing also. The doctor doesn't really care if I take 10 mg or 30 mg as long as I don't show up too often ;)

 

I don't want to encourage anyone to do this but it's just how I ended up doing things.

 

 

Hope you are doing great!

 

Jozeff

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- 2016 - Okt 2017 citalopram some months 15 mg some months 20 mg

- Nov 2017- Apr 2018 citalopram 25 mg

- April 2018 -  June 2018 citalopram 3 month TAPER too fast  from 25mg to 16.5 mg (0.1 mg per day decrease, felt horrible and crashed)

- June 2018 - Aug13th 2018 citalopram trying to stabilize at 16.5 mg for 5 weeks, felt absolutely awful.

- August 14th 2018 - April 29th 2019  citalopram 18 mg (1.5 mg updose). Try to stabilize.-

2019 apr 27 : START taper citalopram @ 18 mg: 29Jun 16.4 mg / 19aug 15.4 mg / 25aug 15.2 mg / 30sep 14.0 mg / 4dec 13.1 mg

2020  03Jan 12.75 mg / 28Jan 12.29 mg / 18Feb 11.83 mg, 25Feb 11.68 mg hold.. / 7May 11.33 mg hold...., 4Aug 10.98 mg / 5Dec 10.0 mg 4 month hold...

2021 30mar 9.8 mg / 06apr 9.5 mg /  13apr 9.4 mg / 14may 8,5 mg / 04jun 8,0 mg / 11jun 7.75 mg, 02jul 7.35 mg /  09jul 7.2 mg hold 3 weeks during holiday /31jul 7 mg/ 8aug 6.8 mg / 15aug 6.63mg / 22aug 6.5mg / 1sep 6.3 mg / 8sep 6.15 mg / 15sep 6.0 mg / 22sep 5.9 mg / 29sep 5.8 mg / 04 oct 5.65 mg / 10oct 5.55 mg / 17oct 5.45 mg / 24oct 5.35mg / 30oct 5.25 mg hold 3 wks / 22nov 5.15 mg / 01dec 5.1mg / 12dec 5.0mg / 20dec 4.85mg / 30dec 4.70mg / 

2022   08jan 4.5 mg / 16jan 4.4 mg / 23jan 4.3 mg / 27jan 4.2 mg / 18feb 4.1 mg / 25feb 4.0 mg / 04mar 3.9 mg / 11mar 3.75 mg / 18Mar 3.65 mg / 09apr 3.55 mg.

 

 

 

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