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Sorry I just saw this, how is it going

I've been on Remeron for 17 years for insomnia. In 2015, my doctor dropped my dose from 15 mg. to 7.5 for a month and then CT'd... then he substituted Tamazepam for 2 months and then I CT'd that. I reinstated Remeron after 2 months. I tried to withdraw Sept. 20, 2016 until the first week of November 2016. I tapered too fast... going from 15 mg. to around 10.75 mg. After 5-6 weeks I reinstated to 15 mg. I waited about 5 months to taper again because my insomnia was really bad. I started tapering again in April of 2017. My current does is 8.5 mg.

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Hi Sunny:

I finished 7 nites at 3.50 mg. and so far, so good (where's the wood cause I'm knocking).:blink:

 

My next reduction will be 3.25 and then 3 mg.  I'm just glad to be going in the downward reducing direction.

 

You will be off soon and your advice and knowledge is priceless!!  Hope you stick around...

 

Best regards,

Shebon

Started 3.75 mg. remeron 4/2013.  Had tapered off benzo 4/2011.  Had tapered down to 1.87 mg remeron but mistakenly thought I was in bad withdrawals, when it was Synthroid again.  Stopped  Synthroid 3/31/3021-side effects are the same as hyperthyroid symptoms, but doctors have no knowledge of this side effect.  Started taper end of 7/2021, now at 3.48 mg. daily. 

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Rachellynn Newbie

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Hey Remeron people - anyone have poop out with remeron? Should i still taper even though it’s no longer working? I’m guessing YES. 😕

 

I was taking it for Insomnia. From 15mg to 7.5mg after 6 months (i was HORRIBLY constipated). 

 

Anyhow. I’m not sleeping but am still taking 7.5 - thoughts? Thank you!!

 

Rachel - 1998-2012 Prozac 20mg

2012-2014 Prozac 40mg

Sept 17 Remeron 15mg, March ‘18 7.5mg

Jan 31 - Feb 13 1/4 - 1mg Ativan

Jan 31 - feb 5 - 2mg Prozac, 4mg feb 7

feb 10 - 10mg rem, Feb 27 - 7.5mg rem

Feb 27 - March 6th - 5mg Baclofen 

March 12th - Keppra 250mg

March 24 - 30mg phenobarbital 

 

 

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No poop out for me, but yes, I would still advise a slow taper. I’m almost done!

OFF Paxil 1996-1997 CT, no w/d sxs

OFF Celexa 2002 (6 months) CT, mild and brief w/d sxs

OFF Ativan 1mg-Cold Turkey 2014, WD Syndrome for several weeks despite intermittent use over 9 months rather than daily use.

OFF Lexapro 3 doses only February 2015 (increased depression)

OFF Paxil 3 doses only July 2016 (increased anxiety)

ON Remeron 15mg daily since AUG 2016 for PPD/PPA/PPOCD Tried cutting dose by 1/4 tablet  December 1, 2016, one week of intense withdrawal headaches, reinstated 15mg dose December 8, 2016.

ON bioidentical Progesterone cream 50mg/day originally started for self diagnosed estrogen dominance April 2015, continued use during pregnancy to alleviate hormonal headaches October 2015-July 2016, continued postpartum to help with mood July 2016-present.

Supplements: Magnesium, Fish Oil, Probiotics, Quercetin

Tried Methylfolate Sept 2016 to "potentiate" Remeron - ended up experiencing worsened side effects (mainly irritability bordering on rage) Discontinued after two doses.

BEGAN REMERON TAPER Feb 2 2017 by switching to different manufacturer of tablet mirtazipine (manufacturer that matches my liquid solution). Holding 15mg dose until adjusted. Plan to eventually do half liquid, half tablet (still 15mg), then all liquid (15mg), then .95ml of 15mg per ml liquid (a 5% reduction) depending on how I respond to adjusting from tablet to liquid.

August 2017 9mg liquid mirtazipine, cutting by 2% every week.

July 2018 3mg liquid Mirtazipine,cutting by 2-3% every week.

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Yes, you should still taper slowly.

2010:  Escitalopram (Lexapro) 10 mg.   Mirtazapine (Remeron) 15 mg. 

2011:    Tapered Mirtazapine: 5 month successful taper.  Then tapered Lexapro:  4 month successful taper

May 2011 to August 2017:   No medications, full recovery

September 6, 2017:  started Mirtazapine (Remeron) 15 mg  - due to severe sudden insomnia (I believe caused by statin use)

November 16, 2017:   started Escitalopram (Lexapro) 10 mg

January 1, 2018 to October 30. 2020 -- 34 month taper off of Mirtazapine 15 mg to 0.00 mg

June 16, 2018:  Started slow taper of 10 mg Escitalopram (Lexapro)

Current (mgai):    0.23 mg  Escitalopram

Supplements:  Fish Oil, Curcumin, bio active B vitamins, zinc, magnesium glycinate, Vitamin D, Vitamin C, saffron, citrus bergamot, ashwagandha

 

"Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own."  Matthew 6:34

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mikeyboy Newbie

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Hello Remeron / Mirtazapine people. I am in the same boat as you. After a 15 month taper from 15mg to 1.8 with manageable symptoms I got cocky and decided to jump off 4 weeks ago after my GP told me that was not a "therapeutic dose". It was fine for three weeks then WD hit me like a train; insomnia, extreme agitation, anhedonia, tinnitus, etc . Looking at advice on here I decided to reinstate at 1mg. Things eased a bit but got worse again. I'm not sure whether to go back up to 1.8  or 2, I really want me life back.

2005  Mirt 15mg For insomnia

January 2018 started to taper October 2018 discovered this site and started 10% taper from 3.75

April 2019 got to 1.8, jumped

Reinstated at about 1mg April 26

Aug 2019 severe myoclonic jerks

Doc proscribed 3.75 Zoplicone

Now taking 1.35 mg mirt at 11.30, 1x3.75 Zop At 12.30am, 1/4 on waking at 5amish, 1/4 at 4pm 1/4 at 8pm. No supplements 

 

 

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Hi Mikey,

I’m sorry you’re going through this. It’s helpful for me to read your experience because I am also feeling cocky and wanting to speed up my last mg. I’ve been at .75 for two weeks and so eager to be done (I’ve been tapering for over 2 years), that I’m tempted to cut to .50 next week, then to .25a few weeks later, then stop.

you've been off for 4 weeks, so at this point reinstating my not be effective. You might feel better in a few weeks. I always noticed my WD symptoms seemed to ease up by week three after a cut. There are also some things you could try while you’re enduring this wave of symptoms:

brain support supplements like high quality omega-3’s, quercetin for histamine intolerance, highly absorbable magnesium for muscle relaxation.

meditation

guided body scan relaxations

regular walks in nature

clean clean food and lots of water to flush your system-as well as gentle epsom salt baths to help your body detox.

good luck 🙏🏻

OFF Paxil 1996-1997 CT, no w/d sxs

OFF Celexa 2002 (6 months) CT, mild and brief w/d sxs

OFF Ativan 1mg-Cold Turkey 2014, WD Syndrome for several weeks despite intermittent use over 9 months rather than daily use.

OFF Lexapro 3 doses only February 2015 (increased depression)

OFF Paxil 3 doses only July 2016 (increased anxiety)

ON Remeron 15mg daily since AUG 2016 for PPD/PPA/PPOCD Tried cutting dose by 1/4 tablet  December 1, 2016, one week of intense withdrawal headaches, reinstated 15mg dose December 8, 2016.

ON bioidentical Progesterone cream 50mg/day originally started for self diagnosed estrogen dominance April 2015, continued use during pregnancy to alleviate hormonal headaches October 2015-July 2016, continued postpartum to help with mood July 2016-present.

Supplements: Magnesium, Fish Oil, Probiotics, Quercetin

Tried Methylfolate Sept 2016 to "potentiate" Remeron - ended up experiencing worsened side effects (mainly irritability bordering on rage) Discontinued after two doses.

BEGAN REMERON TAPER Feb 2 2017 by switching to different manufacturer of tablet mirtazipine (manufacturer that matches my liquid solution). Holding 15mg dose until adjusted. Plan to eventually do half liquid, half tablet (still 15mg), then all liquid (15mg), then .95ml of 15mg per ml liquid (a 5% reduction) depending on how I respond to adjusting from tablet to liquid.

August 2017 9mg liquid mirtazipine, cutting by 2% every week.

July 2018 3mg liquid Mirtazipine,cutting by 2-3% every week.

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mikeyboy Newbie

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Thanks Bhudda. I suppose I should try and hang in there

2005  Mirt 15mg For insomnia

January 2018 started to taper October 2018 discovered this site and started 10% taper from 3.75

April 2019 got to 1.8, jumped

Reinstated at about 1mg April 26

Aug 2019 severe myoclonic jerks

Doc proscribed 3.75 Zoplicone

Now taking 1.35 mg mirt at 11.30, 1x3.75 Zop At 12.30am, 1/4 on waking at 5amish, 1/4 at 4pm 1/4 at 8pm. No supplements 

 

 

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Mikey,

I'm sorry you are having a rough time.  I've had a similar experience to Buddha in that after some of my cuts it takes about 3 weeks to settle down.  My cuts are usually 4-5% at a time, though.  

I am confident that whether you reinstate or gut it out your CNS will start to settle and calm.   It's never soon enough though, huh?  How long have you been at 1.0 mg of Mirtazapine?

You'll get through this!

2010:  Escitalopram (Lexapro) 10 mg.   Mirtazapine (Remeron) 15 mg. 

2011:    Tapered Mirtazapine: 5 month successful taper.  Then tapered Lexapro:  4 month successful taper

May 2011 to August 2017:   No medications, full recovery

September 6, 2017:  started Mirtazapine (Remeron) 15 mg  - due to severe sudden insomnia (I believe caused by statin use)

November 16, 2017:   started Escitalopram (Lexapro) 10 mg

January 1, 2018 to October 30. 2020 -- 34 month taper off of Mirtazapine 15 mg to 0.00 mg

June 16, 2018:  Started slow taper of 10 mg Escitalopram (Lexapro)

Current (mgai):    0.23 mg  Escitalopram

Supplements:  Fish Oil, Curcumin, bio active B vitamins, zinc, magnesium glycinate, Vitamin D, Vitamin C, saffron, citrus bergamot, ashwagandha

 

"Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own."  Matthew 6:34

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mikeyboy Newbie

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I've been on it 8 days now. Feeling a bit better. 

2005  Mirt 15mg For insomnia

January 2018 started to taper October 2018 discovered this site and started 10% taper from 3.75

April 2019 got to 1.8, jumped

Reinstated at about 1mg April 26

Aug 2019 severe myoclonic jerks

Doc proscribed 3.75 Zoplicone

Now taking 1.35 mg mirt at 11.30, 1x3.75 Zop At 12.30am, 1/4 on waking at 5amish, 1/4 at 4pm 1/4 at 8pm. No supplements 

 

 

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