tryingtosurvive: fluoxetine tapering

January 9, 2015

Maybe this would give you some ideas about what is happening? http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/392-one-theory-of-antidepressant-withdrawal-syndrome/

January 9, 2015

then I guess I have to buy the liquid... feel unsure with doing it my self...and 10 ml water would be satured to fast to handle a 10mg pill right?

but the whole thing with rutines and taking at the same time everyday is not possible since I dont get out of bed and eating habits etc are not at all working as I am by my self thats why hospital has come up... but then will they understand I need help tapering...either way rutines and somewhere to lie as I am tortured by anxiuosness thats what I look for also to not make my boyfriend need to deal with this by him self since he is about to leave me ... and my friends thought it should be over by now ... crashed in august 2014 ... soon its one year since I took 40 mg ... The fact that I got really horrible brainzaps while I was on the 40 what does that mean that it already stopped working ? also severe excema and gastric problems and backproblems while I was on steady dose and had been for many years

Btw I get excema and pimpels gastric problem brainzaps and also feel sick taking the medicine again...

Really don't think its god for me.... I saw breggin had a book about tapering was mentioned is it constructive ? or just scary facts ? I saw his page and I just wish I was not living this nightmare so want to think aboiut it as little as possible but still do the right thing to get out best way ASAP :// even if it takes time ..

Again grateful for your answer

//

January 9, 2015

I don't know if this is good advice, I am just going to throw it out so mods can give their response.

I think you might be too sick to taper right now, and that organizing for a 9 mg dose might not be your highest priority. You are sick with side effects and withdrawal, so stopping is not possible. You have to wait for stability, and I'm not sure it matters a lot whether you wait at 10mg or 9mg. So unless someone thinks otherwise I would just take one pill once a day. We can help you with the solution when you feel better.

Probably too much cortisol is a big part of your problem. A regular schedule will help some over time in regulating this. You really must take the pill at the same time everyday. Set an alarm, set it by your bed with water (from personal experience I've learned that a covered container is best!). That becomes your first goal for getting better, if that is all you do, you have succeeded in your big goal of the day. Please realize the Prozac is not fixing you, you are just trying to provide a consistent environment for your brain.

When you can, start regulating your day. Making myself get up at the same time every day really helped me in depression last winter, although it is not easy. Getting bright light at the same time everyday would be awesome.

January 9, 2015

Also, many of the skin and GI symptoms could be indicative of some type of chronic gastrointestinal issue. It doesn't sound serious, I don't mean to alarm you. But those issues can contribute to depression and anxiety. The point is that, once you are stable, many things are probably available to help you. Please don't despair...this is just a very rough patch you are going through.

January 10, 2015

Also, many of the skin and GI symptoms could be indicative of some type of chronic gastrointestinal issue. It doesn't sound serious, I don't mean to alarm you. But those issues can contribute to depression and anxiety. The point is that, once you are stable, many things are probably available to help you. Please don't despair...this is just a very rough patch you are going through.

what kind of gastrintestinal issue ? Gluten ...? or what should I test for ?

I felt more depressed since I went back on 10mg thats why I think the medicine is hurting me I already tried to stabilize on that for 6 weeks but only felt worse so what makes you think stabilizing on this dose will make me better ?

i was more anxious but less depressed and felt better on 5 mg even though I just tried to stabilize for 2 weeks before increased to 10 mg ONLY because someone said the anxiety would come down then ....

now I have taken 10 mg 5 days an 0 mg 2 days last weeks ... feel less sick when I take 0mg ...:///

still your advice is to go back 10mg everyday from this ??

grateful to your thoughts ... and still hospital is an option next week cant bare lying home alone longer :/ have been so from december...

January 10, 2015

I am going to try and explain. Alto suggested you take 2.5 but someone else told you to go to 10 so you did

what they advised. Now you have taken 10 for 6 weeks and it is making you ill. Your brain is now used to the 10

and if you cut back to 5 you may be more sick. That is why I suggested 9. You need to be very careful now because

your nervous system is struggling to cope.

It will be better if you can get the liquid from your doctor, then you can see what the concentration of

there is from ml-mg, so you can dilute it if necessary to get the correct dose.

You can make the liquid from tablets, dissolve the tablet in water, 10 mg tablet to 10ml of water. Then use a syringe

to take out 1ml. Throw away the 1ml and take the rest. I am not good at maths or science either but that is how I

would do it. Side effects are dose related and should ease as you get lower.

We do not recommend the CITAP method, we do not advise skipping doses or varying the doses. You need to take

the same dose every day to stabilise. If you want to try the CITAP method then you will need to ask them to support

you. You felt better on the days when you took 0, that will happen because it is side effects. No drug no side effects

but if you continue to do that your nervous system will never get stable. If you quit c/t you will have withdrawal that

you have already experienced.

You will get better but need to get stable to improve and you will not do that by changing things all the time.

We want you to get better and we are here for you.

January 11, 2015

did taurine help you ?

get liquid and go down to 9 ml now and hold so for one month is that what you suggest?

just so I understand you right ...

kindest regards

/trying..

January 11, 2015

Yes that is what I am suggesting. I hope you start to feel better soon.

Magnesium and fish oil have helped me a lot, taurine does help a little with sleep but I do

not take it every day. I hope you start to feel better soon, please stick to the same dose every day

and let us know how you get on.

( Stay with 10 every day until you can get the liquid or make it from tablets. You need to get a

syringe from the phamacy that measures 1ml )

January 12, 2015

Yes that is what I am suggesting. I hope you start to feel better soon.

Magnesium and fish oil have helped me a lot, taurine does help a little with sleep but I do

not take it every day. I hope you start to feel better soon, please stick to the same dose every day

and let us know how you get on.

( Stay with 10 every day until you can get the liquid or make it from tablets. You need to get a

syringe from the phamacy that measures 1ml )

I can get the liquid now should I do that ?

taurine I havent tried ... but read it could calm down the sympathic nervous systeme is that true ?

maybe thats what I need too then ...

magnesium and fish oil I do use..

I just got my period again first time since like 3 months ... can that be a sign that things are stabilising ? or maybe just because I gained weight from overeating again...

I still get all shaky and strange feeling in my head after taking the 10 mg fluoxetine (

January 12, 2015

Are you under the believe that fluoxetine is bad for anxiety - that it causes it ? because I am afraid still that my anxiety might need some medicine ...:/ have you experienced people who acctually need anitanxiety drugs?... you here feels safe to ask and hope you can answer in an objective way from what you learned from all stories here...

kindest regards

thanks again

January 12, 2015

What we have seen as causing anxiety in situations as yours is changing the drugs and their doses. Anxiety is a sign of a destabilised nervous system and nervous system gets destabilised by going up and down in doses as you were doing.

Choosing a dose and sticking with it means stability which we found to be the only thing that actually heals.

These drugs work in such a way that the way you feel today is the result of all the changes you did over the past moth and before. So nothing you can do today will make you feel better instantly but it will make you feel better or worse in the future.

The key is to stop reacting to symptoms and accept that for some time you want feel as you would want to. But rushing this process will only make you feel even worse than you are.

It would be helpful to update your signature with the date of when you went to 10 mg.

Try to read this several times. Maybe now you are ready for the message:

I'm going to post this here so everyone can see it.

Our basic rules of succeeding with tapering off psychiatric drugs or recovering from withdrawal syndrome are the rules of 3KIS: Keep it simple. Keep it slow. Keep it stable.

1. Keep it simple.

When the body reacts, often it's difficult to tell what the cause might be. When you're tapering or trying supplements or other treatments, keeping it simple helps reduce confusion during trial-and-error. Keeping it simple minimize confounding factors. For example:

1.a. Do not CHANGE the dosage of more than one drug or supplement at a time.
When you change 2 or more drugs at once and you get a bad reaction, you won't know which drug is causing it.

1.b. Do not ADD more than one drug or supplement at a time.
When you add more than one thing at a time -- or, worse, throw the kitchen sink into some kind of cocktail -- and you get a bad reaction, you won't have any idea what to do. Should you drop one thing or all of them?

This is also true of mixed supplements, supplements that contain more than one ingredient. It's better to try one ingredient at a time to see how you react.

2. Keep it slow.

Many people become very sensitive to drugs and supplements after they've experienced withdrawal symptoms for even a short time. Do not count on taking the big risks you used to take. Make changes slowly.

Introducing a drug or supplement or changing a dosage very gradually gives you the ability to sample how it might affect you before you go too far.

A big dose or big change probably will cause a worse bad reaction than a very small dose or change. You can injure your nervous system pretty badly with a big change -- it might take you months or years to feel better.

For example:

2.a. If you are tapering, we recommend a 10% reduction every month, based on the LAST dosage. (The amount of the reduction keeps getting smaller. Read this explanation: Why taper by 10% of my dosage?

2.b. Do not expect to feel better immediately. There are no silver bullets for withdrawal syndrome. There is no pill of any kind that will immediately put you back to normal. If you make a good change, the effect is likely to be slight at first. Be patient. Read this: What is withdrawal syndrome?

2.c. Do not jump around in dosage. For most drugs, it takes about 4 days for the change to fully register in your system. Unless you have an IMMEDIATE bad reaction, wait at least 4-7 days to see how the change affects you. (If you have an immediate bad reaction, go back to the dosage you were taking before.)

Since withdrawal symptoms ordinarily fluctuate, you might have hours or days here and there when you don't feel well. One episode does not a pattern make. Do not panic and throw in another drug or supplement. Keep notes on paper of your daily symptom pattern. If you feel worse and worse over a week, the change was not a good one. It may be the decrease or increase was too large. Rather than jumping around in dosage, make an adjustment half-way.

2.d. Be patient, recovery is inconsistent and gradual. The nervous system is very complicated. It can repair itself, but it takes time to do this. In the meantime, you may experience The Windows and Waves Pattern of Recovery

3. Keep it stable.

The nervous system is delicate and very complicated. Normally, the autonomic system runs your body with numerous checks and balances, constantly gauging what hormones and transmitters need to be increased and which need to be decreased. Its job is to keep your body stable, at a tolerable temperature range, with everything running smoothly.

Psychiatric drugs interfere with the entire nervous system, not just the brain. This is why changing dosage of just one drug can affect your eyesight, your digestion, and your sleep. Taking psychiatric drugs affects the functions of the nervous system.

The nervous system, which works so hard to keep your body running smoothly, thrives on stability. When you take a psychiatric drug over a period of time (usually a month or more), your body becomes dependent on the drug. This is called physiological dependency.

The nervous system adapts itself to the drug like a plant growing on a trellis. If you tear the trellis away, the plant will be damaged. You need to remove the trellis gradually and allow the plant to retrain itself to its natural growth pattern.

Thus, the nervous system does best in a stable environment. Help your nervous system adapt to life without drugs by maintaining as much stability as you can. This is the way you can take care of yourself and help your nervous system to recover. We are our own worst enemies when it comes to stressing our nervous systems! Examples:

3.a. Do not suddenly quit taking your drugs. Do not skip doses to taper. These big, fast changes are the opposite of providing stability for your nervous system. Skipping doses causes the amount of the drug in your bloodstream to go up and down. Do not do this for any psychiatric drug.

3.b. Avoid binges. Even if you had no problems with them before, avoid overindulgence in alcohol, food, partying, sugar, staying up late, even exercise. All of these put the body and the nervous system under stress.

3.c. Manage emotional stress. Yes, that abusive relationship can be keeping you from recovering from withdrawal syndrome. You may wish to reduce contact with any people who tend to upset you. If you are an argumentative person, you may wish to minimize your confrontations.

3.d. Direct your time and efforts to pastimes that are calming or pleasurable. Calm is good for the nervous system. Always make time for a pleasant walk of at least a half-hour every day. Many people find a place for meditation in their lives because it makes them feel better. Spending time with pets or in nature ("forest bathing") can also be soothing. See our Symptoms and Self-Care forum for more suggestions.

3.e. Keep your daily circadian rhythm steady. Your body runs on a daily pattern governed by sunrise and sunset -- the circadian rhythm. Our bodies do best when we wake in the morning, go to sleep at night, and eat at about the same times every day. You may wish to reduce artificial light at night. Do what you can to maintain a regular daily schedule, this helps your nervous system function. See Important topics about symptoms, including sleep problems.

January 13, 2015

since I went up to 10 mg I feel more depressed then ever and not it has been 1 1/2 month I was even better of cold turkey now I don't get out of bed and the anxiousness is killing me ((((( even though friends trying to support ...( cant make it

can there be an "ease" in trying to bridge to some other drug ? I don't want to but like this I am loosing my life conmpletely (

January 13, 2015

Also according to what the medicalprescription for fluoxetine they say that 20 mg is the lowest effective dose for anxiety ... what do you say about that ?

I mean would it maybe help me increasing to terapeutic dose ... or will it settle if I do as now and try to stay trough it with antihistamines and bensodiazepines ? I am scared I just make it worse by waiting to "treat" it ..cause my life is really falling more and more appart....((

please gratefull to your advices again..

//trying

January 13, 2015

even if there was such a thing as a "therapeutic dose", this would apply to a brain that is for the first time exposed to this drug.

Your brain is very different after all the changes it has been subjected to. These drugs work totally different than antibiotics. More is not better. More is just a change and change manifests as anxiety. We can't offer you any other "cure" for anxiety which is a result of constant change than stability.

Even using your logic I don't see how increasing the dose again might seems a solution to you. At 5 mg you said you were extremely anxious, Alto suggested going down to 2.5. You went to 10 instead and found out that anxiety and other symptoms can be even worse. Since you are saying you are feeling worse at 10 than at 5 how can you think 20 would help?

In situations like our it is not a particular dose but stability over time that heals.

January 13, 2015

should I get the liquid and start taper down now ? or how long should I hold on 10 mg ? I have been here for 1 1/2 month now ........still super anxious and depressed. what kind of stabilizing should I wait for before I taper down ?

Grateful to your reply!

//trying

January 13, 2015

Bubble is right, things are different now. You are reacting to the prozac and the higher you go it gets worse.

You have skipped some doses and taken 10 on other days. I am thinking that if you can take 9 the side effects may

be a little less without making the withdrawal any worse. . I don't know what other medication a doctor would give you, I am

sure they will give you something but we can't say that it will help . Are you taking a benzo? You don't have it listed in

your signature. I am sorry that we can't make you better, you tapered at your doctor's advice and it was too fast. That

is not your fault but all you can do now is try to taper very slowly. I would get the liquid and reduce to 9mg then hold there

for a few weeks, hopefully it will help lessen the side effects. Stay at 10mg until you can get liquid, take it every day and do

not skip doses.

January 16, 2015

Cant find the one I wanted to quote ... the nurse I talked to yesterday suggested me seroquel

I have benso 5 mg or antihistamine to take for anxiety thats all ..

But seriously : maybe I need something to numb my anxiety ... do you think that it really will go away after finishing fluoxetine ? Maybe It is me ??

Maybe I need something ?

As I am now I don't get out of bed for several weeks and then I have been stable on 10 mg for more than one month so the theory of "stabilizing" doesn't hold ://// ? I mean it is not the unstable brain that gives me anxiety (

maybe its me (??

Gratefull to your thoughts!

//trying but getting more and more lonely

January 16, 2015

I understand what you are going through. I is a nightmare for many opeople here. I would avoid another drug because they all have their own side effects and all need tapering to get free of them. Did you ask for the liquid prozac?

January 17, 2015

I understand what you are going through. I is a nightmare for many opeople here. I would avoid another drug because they all have their own side effects and all need tapering to get free of them. Did you ask for the liquid prozac?

yes I already have it but didnt get it out yet very expensive ...and I am scared how I would react on the liquid there have been others getting more anxiuos by trying to take liquid cant deal with that ..... why not take 5 mg less one day for two weeks and then 5mg two days for two weeks etc ? it will get me of faster and I dont risk getting worse by trying the liquid.

January 17, 2015

gratefull to your reply

January 17, 2015

Oh my Trying, please do yourself a huge service and don't even consider doing what you wrote.

I thought that your aim by now would be to get better and not get off the drug. Maybe you forgot but trying to get off the drug too fast got you into all this mess.

I disagree with you that stability is not working for you. Although you wrote that you actually weren't maintaining as stable environment as should be (missing doses as far as I remember), you are still improving: you don't talk about suicidality and sound calmer.

It's just that it takes time. After everything you did to your brain, 1 month is not enough to bounce back to the level of functionality that you had before cutting too fast. You also, against the advice here went to 10 mg (we advised 2.5). Despite all of that you are improving. And if you STOP TRYING you will continue to do so. In my case it took 4 months of very gradual improvement.

The best thing you can do for yourself is to focus on increasing your wellbeing and stop focusing on the drug and doses. Inform yourself of how to manage anxiety and live with it. Gentle walks and exercises, eating healthy food, taking magnesium, meditation... That's what you should be exploring and not the doses.

I will copy something for you here that might help you understand what is actually happening to your brain. Maybe it will help you to stop trying things out, following different advice and as a result making yourself feel worse.

For me it was very important to understand the basics of science behind what is happening to us on these drugs. It helped me endure and understand why changing doses and drugs is bad, why stability is go and why it takes so long to stabilise.

We are very lucky that our member Rhi can explain it so clearly to us. I'm coping who she wrote for another member. I just deleted things which don't relate to your situation but you will see that many do.

Rhi, on 16 Jan 2015 - 5:10 PM, said:

(...) Every time we start these drugs, stop them, go up and down in dosages, whatever, our bodies struggle to reestablish homeostasis, turning genes on and off, attempting to activate and deactivate complex nanosecond feedback loops, synthesizing proteins, breaking down proteins, and that's just the little bit that I've learned about it; there's much, much more.

Neurophysiology is incredibly complex (a couple of orders of magnitude more complex than even the most exquisite device ever created by humans)(amazing what nature can do with four billion years of tweaking time). And as organisms, we have never before encountered anything anywhere close to what these drugs do to disrupt neurochemistry and the endocrine system. Evolution hasn't had the chance to develop ways to adjust, heal, tweak and adapt to these drugs. Our brains are accustomed to much more subtle and gradual variations in neurotransmitters (caused by things like hormonal changes of puberty, seasonal changes in day length, aging, etc.) and even those can mess us up.

And the drugs affect more than just neurotransmitters.

So you've been through the wringer. Your brain has been in the blender in the Chop Ice mode. Be gentle with it.

(...) benzos.. (...) are just as disruptive as ADs. They cause brain changes/adaptation, maybe even faster than ADs. They do have an immediate effect, it's true, but they cause the same kinds of problems if you take them daily, even just for a week or two for some people. None of these psych drugs are like aspirin or alcohol, only having an effect while they're in your body and then going away. (Actually aspirin causes permanent changes to coagulation factors which take months to replace, come to think of it. I'm not sure that ANY drug$ are as benign and temporary as we have been told.)

(...) The brain and body are not, not, NOT machines. We have this unconscious bias in Western science, due to human arrogance or what-have-you, that makes us think we humans are smarter than nature, and we talk about bodies as if they were like cars, just an assemblage of parts, easily understood. Not, sadly, true. Biochemistry is amazingly, incredibly, unbelievably complex, and nowhere more complex than in the nervous system. Far, far beyond anything humans can even imagine creating. Not mechanical in function. And much more poorly understood than anyone wants to admit.

January 17, 2015

what about taking benzo and/ antihistamines to be able to even think about taking a walk ...?

a girl took benzo for 4 months and then just quit...

what is the least worse I can do ??....antihistamines ?

I need something !

January 17, 2015

I don't wish to think in terms of drugs for help BUT I am panicing and I just see how all my life is disaappearing ....going back to something that will neutralize my mood ? I might have an emotional instability ://////// and all this years I haven't managed life well at all since I was a teenager ...only because I got help ... so now I might just surrender and take the "help" again ... maybe I need that ? :/ my father do .... he takes cymbalta now and zoloft before and also benzo for all his grown-up life ...

how can you be sure I dont need drugs ? like my bipolar friends...

grateful to your thoughts!!

January 17, 2015

Well, I am one of your "bipolar friends." I think you have to decide which route is best for you. You're certainly not alone if you choose drugs. What made you even think of going off Prozac in the first place?

I personally think there is more than one thing "wrong" with me. And I have quite the genetic pedigree for mental illness...I had one grandmother with extreme problems at times and two grandparents with enormous "behavioral" issues, my dad probably fit the diagnosistic criteria for bipolar II. But the struggles going off drugs and sorting things out have been more than worth it to me. From a spiritual perspective, I really don't like not even knowing what is me and what is drugs. Even if life is harder, I want it to be real. Also, my drugs were masking some real physical problems. I have a daughter who is set up for mental health issues...I want her to see me fight hard, I want to be an inspiration to her. So that's why I am putting myself through this process. In April I will have been working on it for three years. But you are correct that at this point in time most people take medications for these symptoms, and the choice is yours. Right now, the distress you are going through is completely normal for your drug history, so no one can say it will quickly be resolved by staying off/reinstating a small amount of medication. But no one can promise trying other drugs will be successful, either. I went through a doctor-instructed cold turkey when I got sort of manic on Cymbalta. I had no idea that was the problem, nor did the doctor, and the doctors did stabilize me...but I ended up on six drugs.

If you google "Harm Reduction Guide" you can find a paper about making the decision whether to come off drugs. Maybe that would be helpful.

I just have to say that your English is amazing given all the stress you are under! If anything I write doesn't make sense, please just say so.

I wish you a joyful life, whatever you decide.

January 17, 2015

trying, it seems that 10mg Prozac is too much for you. If I were you, I would reduce it by 1mg, to 9mg, as soon as possible.

Then I would reduce by 1mg per week until 5mg and hold at 5mg -- as we suggested before.

Doctors will try to treat you with other drugs. There is no prediction as to whether the drugs may make you feel better or worse. Doctors do not know how to treat withdrawal syndrome or other adverse effects from psychiatric drugs.

January 18, 2015

Well, I am one of your "bipolar friends." I think you have to decide which route is best for you. You're certainly not alone if you choose drugs. What made you even think of going off Prozac in the first place?

I personally think there is more than one thing "wrong" with me. And I have quite the genetic pedigree for mental illness...I had one grandmother with extreme problems at times and two grandparents with enormous "behavioral" issues, my dad probably fit the diagnosistic criteria for bipolar II. But the struggles going off drugs and sorting things out have been more than worth it to me. From a spiritual perspective, I really don't like not even knowing what is me and what is drugs. Even if life is harder, I want it to be real. Also, my drugs were masking some real physical problems. I have a daughter who is set up for mental health issues...I want her to see me fight hard, I want to be an inspiration to her. So that's why I am putting myself through this process. In April I will have been working on it for three years. But you are correct that at this point in time most people take medications for these symptoms, and the choice is yours. Right now, the distress you are going through is completely normal for your drug history, so no one can say it will quickly be resolved by staying off/reinstating a small amount of medication. But no one can promise trying other drugs will be successful, either. I went through a doctor-instructed cold turkey when I got sort of manic on Cymbalta. I had no idea that was the problem, nor did the doctor, and the doctors did stabilize me...but I ended up on six drugs.

If you google "Harm Reduction Guide" you can find a paper about making the decision whether to come off drugs. Maybe that would be helpful.

I just have to say that your English is amazing given all the stress you are under! If anything I write doesn't make sense, please just say so.

I wish you a joyful life, whatever you decide.

hi, I wonder weather you are ironic or not saying my english is amazing I feel really ashamed how bad english I write here since I am so desperate and scattered in my mind :/

January 18, 2015

trying, it seems that 10mg Prozac is too much for you. If I were you, I would reduce it by 1mg, to 9mg, as soon as possible.

Then I would reduce by 1mg per week until 5mg and hold at 5mg -- as we suggested before.

Doctors will try to treat you with other drugs. There is no prediction as to whether the drugs may make you feel better or worse. Doctors do not know how to treat withdrawal syndrome or other adverse effects from psychiatric drugs.

that means getting the fluid ... just scared what I will experience with taking the fluide ...since other persons experienced more anxiousness by doing so (

1 mg per week ... ok why this pace ?

and will antihistamine or benzo make it worse if I take it ?

I feel that my life now is put "on hold" cause I can't engage in studies or anything cause I feel so anxious all day ( only now at night I am a bit less anxious but my eyes are clearly affected by this drugs (((

January 18, 2015

[quote name="Meimeiquest" post="
hi, I wonder weather you are ironic or not saying my english is amazing I feel really ashamed how bad english I write here since I am so desperate and scattered in my mind :/

Oh my word, I am totally serious. I was just thinking how hard it would be to process all this in one's second language when feeling so sick.

January 18, 2015

now I disolved 20 mg in 100 ml and took 45 ml which is equal to 9mg according to my boyfriend who got crazy with all my talking and complaining calculated this ...and 100ml water only for it to disolve better

so I keep this 45 ml for one week ? and then go to 40 ml which is 8 mg and so on untill on 5 mg like you said ...does that sound like a plan ?

please confirm!

Just now after taking the dose I feel speeded and anxious again...

you think this will work ? please talk to me:/

January 18, 2015

Yes that is the plan Trying, hopefully the side effects will lessen as the dose gets lower.

January 19, 2015

Yes that is the plan Trying, hopefully the side effects will lessen as the dose gets lower.

could taurine help with anxiety ?

//trying

January 19, 2015

It helps some people, and it especially helps with a "racing heart." Here is the taurine thread. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/5759-taurine-for-heart-arrhythmia/

Inositol, GABA, and niacin (and magnesium, which many use) also help me, but I seem to be more tolerant of supplements than many people. If you decide to try something, try just one thing at a time, and start with a very small dose. And let us know how it goes!

January 21, 2015

bought taurine yesterday... magnesium , D vitamin and omega 3 as before but now added one teaspoon taurine... feel strange in my eyes and a bit tired in my body ... can it be from that ?

January 21, 2015

Trying please don't take all the new supplements together. Introduce them one at a time so you can see which

ones affect you and which ones help. It could be too much taurine, leave that out for a while, try just one of the

supplements for a week and see if you feel any better, then add another one. I would start with fish oil, that made

the biggest difference for me. Start with a low dose of any supplement and increase if needed.

January 21, 2015

fish oil I already take and magnesium and D vitamine and this works ... just thought taurine could help with the cognitive part... but maybe just stick to what I have then ...:/?

January 21, 2015

in what way did fishoil help u ?

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