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Hello everyone,

 

I spend nearly every day on this forum so I figure why not make a post of my own. Well where to start??? 9 months ago I was a hard headed, intense, body building, drug abusing party animal. I had just graduated college, and immediately became an assistant manager. The job was perfect for me, being sales minded and very outgoing. Then one day, mid March everything in my life came spiraling out of control. I drank heavily at a party and experimented with some cocaine. I woke up the next morning feeling off, eeew withdrawals, I told myself I would make it through this week and it would get better. It didn't... I was having panic attacks at work, so I went to an urgent care clinic. He tossed me a prescription to Prozac and sent me on my way.

 

A huge sigh of relief came over me.... What I didn'the know is that cocaine withdrawl was nothing. I was about to be put through the most brutal hell I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. I took the Prozac for about 3 months without a Pdoc, diagnosing myself online and hearing about "startup effects" I persevered through this lobotomy, surprisingly sober (despite my best efforts).

 

Until one day I went on vacation with my family and I Snapped, I drank a few beers and went completely manic...started throwing plates in this beach house my brother rented and hid from my brothers because I didn'the want them too see me. At this time i'd been seeing a doctor for a week and she said it was fine to cold turkey Prozac. So I did, and ever since I have been slowly crawling out of hell. Withdrawl and being on the drug feel no different to me, extreme depersonalization, which is mostly gone, sensitivity to everything, food, vitamins, etc. Short term memory loss, and the list goes on.

 

2 months in my doctor put me on Lamictal, but due to my extreme sensitivity I started to feel crazy again, so I got off. Felt good for a week then things spiraled out of control again. I finally convinced her to give me 5 MG tabs that I break in to quarters because that'she all my nervous system can handle. She thinks it's a placebo, but I was insistent that she give me the micro dose. It helps tremendously with my depersonalization. But this is a success story, so i'll get to the positive.

 

I learned that 1 year ago I was "happy" but my life was way off balanced. I was addicted to drugs and would anything to impress others, and I hated the person I saw in the mirrior. For once in my life I was thrown a curveball where I was forced to work on myself, and luckily through all of these terrible events I have achieved a level of balance in my life.

 

I still have a lot of residual side effects of treating my brain like a piñata for the last 5 years. I still occasionally drink, if I feel like I can handle it but I usually cap out at 2-3 beers. I have a psych doctor that will literally throw any potent benzo I want at me (which I refuse to even pick up my perscription). I am far from perfect, but i'm learning, and feeling myself recovering.

 

I have an amazing support system consisting of my girlfriend, my family and a friend that literally went through the exact same experience as me. For all of those who think you will be stuck like this forever, you will recover. If someone like me, with no self control can make it through this, you can too. I now get why heroin addicts never get off of it, because they just want to feel "normal" again. Your drug dealer just does it by the books.

 

We can only take life one day at a time, spread positivity and try to do a little good in every day. And don'the beat up on yourself for your mistakes. Thank you Altostrata and everyone on this forum. You have all helped me grow in to an individual I am liking more and more every day. I will be sure to give updates in future months.

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So glad you are doing so well! Can you give details as far as when your symptoms improved?

Prozac 10 mg 03-15 to 10-15.

Prozac 20 mg 10-15 to 12-15.

Taper prozac 01-16 to 03-16.

Last Prozac 03-14-16.

 

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After 2 months the food sensitivities decreased a lot. When I started the Lamictal, I started experiencing all of my symptoms again because the dosage was far too high. And it took another month to get back to where it was before. My short term memory is getting better, especially in the last 2 weeks. I find myself saying, "oh yeah, that's how I used to do that" a lot more now. I still feel like my cognitive function is somewhat impaired, but when I start to feel a panic attack coming on. I am able to snap myself out of it before I go back in to the hole. That has been a major step for me. Not worrying about slipping in to depersonalization :)

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I am on month 9 after cold turkey quitting prozac. My panic attacks have lessened to a state of general anxiety, I no longer struggle with depersonalization but will still get waves of derealization from time to time. The improvements i've made in the last 2 months have been significant, so I should be greatful and patient about my current circumstances. But spending a year in a dream like state has made me grow very impatient. My current symptoms are very a rattling noise in my head when I attempt to talk to others, and a very impaired short term memory. Both of these make it very difficult to do my job, and relate to others. I really believe these will subside eventually, but I need some encouragement, i've always been a very outgoing person, so it kills me to know that most of my conversations have no substance, and i'll forget what I am talking about mid sentence. I am under a lot of pressure at work to succeed, and my boss is not understanding at all. Does anyone have any suggestions how to improve short term memory? Or a success story about how your memory has improved? Thank you for any input, I wish you all a speedy recovery. We can make it through this!

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That's awesome! I totally agree with your username btw  ;) ). Do you ever get physical symptoms or are they mainly mental ones? Are you going through the windows and waves phases too? Are you still taking the Lamictal?

 

I have short term memory as well (even before Prozac) so I too would like to know how to improve on that! 

My medication -- Prozac
August 2015: Started on 10mg/day
September 2015 to May 2016: Increased to 20mg/day
May 2016: Abruptly stopped 20mg for 2 weeks (withdrawal symtoms arose but assumed it was worsened depression)
June 2016 to August 2016: increased to 40mg (my body reacted very badly to this dose)
August 2016: decreased back to 20mg
September 2016: tapered off 10mg this month alone
September 30, 2016: last day of Prozac
October 2016: month long window
November 2016-Present: WD symptoms (too many physical sxs and some mental sxs)
February 5-20, 2017: Reinstated at 1-2mg // February 21, 2017: Back to no meds

 

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I decided to stop lamictal, without the supervision of a doctor that actually knew how to micro dose, I didn't feel safe doing it by myself. After I stoppedon't, after 4-5 days of withdrawl off the Lamictal I saw a lot of improvement in short term memory. I still have a lot of issues with short term memory, but not as severe as before. I have really made some major breakthroughs lately, I don't have constant panic attacks and generally I am living a normal life. (I still have issues with short term memory) I literally wrote that again so I decided to leave it lol, and I also constantly have to burp. Also minor but tolerable food sensitivities. I feel pretty confident that I will be 100% in the next year! So things are on the up and up!

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Hello, PWCBS.

 

How long were you taking Lamictal? Did you take 1.25mg throughout that time? What was its effect?

 

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Try a little bit, one at a time, and see how it affects you. Many people find these helpful.

 

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I was taking around 1 MG, my doctor was willing to give me 5 MG tabs and I would lick one every morning. She didn't let me take it to a compound pharmacy so I ended up quitting. 1 MG made my mind short term memory somewhat fogger. When I would bump up to anywhere between 2-5 mg, I would get very bad headaches. I feel I would have had better results with lamictal if I could get it compound ed, but I was basically firing from the hip. My vitamin sensitivity has significantly decreased, so I am able to take a multi vitamin/mineral supplement with glutathione support, adrenal support, and a digestion aid all prescribed by a doctor in functional medicine. I also take fish oil and a magnesium supplement as well.

 

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I just wanted to say that is the best screen name.  It is so true.  I am 17 months off Prozac and my w/d has been awful.  I had times that I thought I was going to die and I had times that I would wish I would die because I felt so bad.  I know that is awful to say but it was true. 

 

I am glad that you have been able to snap yourself out of a panic attack. What tricks have you used to help snap yourself out of the panic?  I was put on Prozac because of having panic attacks. 

Discontinued Fluoxetine cold turkey after taking it for 12 years. Stopped taking Fluoxetine in August 2015.

My current withdrawal symptoms: Itchy skin, smell hallucination, hot flashes, night sweats, insomnia, and anxiety. 

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I finally convinced her to give me 5 MG tabs that I break in to quarters because that'she all my nervous system can handle. She thinks it's a placebo, but I was insistent that she give me the micro dose. It helps tremendously with my depersonalization. But this is a success story, so i'll get to the positive.

 

 

^This sounded like you had some benefit from the lamotrigine?

 

What is your supplement regimen? 

 

Can you describe the rattling in your head in more detail?

 

Have patience, your memory will come back. A stress reduction course might be helpful.

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Yeah I do think I benefited from what from the lamotrigine. It definitely inhibited the fight or flight response I would get to most stimuli, but it increased my forgetfulness at work. Especially at high doses (when I took larger bites of the 5mg tab). The inability to measure how much I was taking was a large portion of the reason I quit taking it. My vitamin sensitivity has significantly decreased, so I am able to take a multi vitamin/mineral supplement with glutathione support, adrenal support, and a digestion aid all prescribed by a doctor in functional medicine. In addition I take take fish oil, coq 10 and a magnesium supplement.

 

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The rattling in my head is almost a buzzing noise/ vibration that seems to come from the center of my head when rather than something you can actually hear through your ears. It has also lessened a lot in severity. According to most websites it is an anxiety symptom and has relation to your fight or flight response, so it makes sense why I'd be experiencing it.

 

I agree a stress reduction courses could definitely benefit me. Do you have any suggestions?

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I don't think the buzzing is an anxiety symptom, I think it is either tinnitus or another withdrawal symptom, related to brain zaps. Good to hear it has reduced. Is it worse at any particular time of day?

 

What is your supplement schedule, when do you take each supplement, what is the dosage?

 

How much fish oil are you taking?

 

Re stress reduction: See if a medical center near you has courses, or Google to find videos on the Web.

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I definitely think it'should a withdrawl related symptom. The article below says it's related to the brain being in a hyperstimulated state.

 

http://www.anxietycentre.com/anxiety-symptoms/humming-sound-in-your-head.shtml

 

Hyperstimulation can cause the electrical activity in the brain to increase. This increased electrical activity can cause neurons to act erratically, which can cause all sorts of abnormal and unusual nervous system behavior, such as causing this symptom – a humming, droning, rumbling, throbbing, vibrating-like, hissing, fizzing, or other types of sounds in your head. Since the brain receives and interprets auditory information, it can also interpret heightened and erratic neuronal activity as a ‘sound.’ This symptom is an example of that.

 

Fish oil 2000mg in the morning and 2000mg at night. I take 2 multivitamin tablets in the morning and at night. I take two adrenal support tablets, and 100mg coq10 every morning and 2 bio gest caps before meals.

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Hey everybody! I just hit my 9 month Mark after a horrible experience, cold turkey quitting Prozac after a 3 month long adverse reaction. So about 1 year of madness. That being said, it is amazing the progress I have seen! I have to say most days I am mostly happy, I don't feel like I belong in a mental Institution like the early days. For all of you that feel like you are drowning, it does get better, so much better!

That being said, I still struggle with a buzzing in my head when I converse with people, which makes it very difficult to articulate myself when talking to other people. And I have some mild issues explaining myself in conversations like I used to be able to.

 

Ideas will come in to my mind crystal clear; unfortunately when I attempt to express my thought verbally the buzzing noise will overwhelm me when I talk, or I will have a cognitive delay when trying to add input to someone else's thought. This is very frustrating because I find myself sounding stupid or awkward when conversing with others.

 

Does anyone have experience with similar side effects? And if so, did you find something that helped at all? I have found eating breakfast, drinking a lot of water and exercising have been beneficial to me. Any help is appreciated.

 

I expect to write my 100% success story sometime in the next year! Stay strong, and keep fighting. And if you are too weak to fight now, just exist, because you will be able to fight this withdrawl soon. Coming from a guy that was begging his mom to take him to a psych ward 9 months ago. To someone who can actually say he is happy most days, you can do this.

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From What is Happening in Your Brain

 

"Temporal Lobe  These lobes are on the side of your brain on each side near your ear. It makes up the whole left and ride side of your brain.  This is where auditory information is processed, including hearing itself, but also the "Meaning" of what we are hearing, as well as part of speech and language, emotion, and buncha other stuff.  In early recovery, someone was talking to me and I couldn't tell you what they said past the first sentence.  My auditory processing was ALL messed up.  I couldn't picture what a person was saying to me in real time - and by the time I caught up to them, I was lost and they were talking about something else!"

 

Other SA discussions:

 

brain-fog-blank-mind-comprehension-cognitive-and-memory-problems

 

tinnitus-what-does-all-that-noise-mean

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I don't think the buzzing is an anxiety symptom, I think it is either tinnitus or another withdrawal symptom, related to brain zaps. Good to hear it has reduced. Is it worse at any particular time of day?

 

What is your supplement schedule, when do you take each supplement, what is the dosage?

 

How much fish oil are you taking?

 

Re stress reduction: See if a medical center near you has courses, or Google to find videos on the Web.

 

I agree with Alto on this one. 

 

Love the name and agree with you too. 

 

I am curious what sort of "glutathione support" your taking or getting?  

 

That seems like a lot of fish oil to me if you have any easy bruising talk to your doc or lower you dose as it can thin the blood. 

 

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Does anyone have experience with similar side effects? And if so, did you find something that helped at all? I have found eating breakfast, drinking a lot of water and exercising have been beneficial to me. Any help is appreciated." 

 

Couple of ideas for you.  Heat on the spine with a cold pack on the neck... for head pain or any pain for some reason this seems to reset my system. I suspect my body senses it has some malfunction sensing two extreme temps and calls in a high part of the brain to sort it out... works is what I know.  Great for headaches. 

 

Heat on the spine 45% angle deep relaxation video... this is the one I used after I could tolerate people talking ...before then I listened to a cd of the ocean. 

 

Reaching a state of deep relaxation was the first thing that helped me and has remained one of the best things in my tool kit. 

 

 Epsom salt baths you will find a lot on here about them.  There is a skin spray too but I have not used it. 

 

Vitamin B1 I tend not to be able to think without it. 

 

I took a look at your multi vit... noticed glutathione is one ingredient is this the only source your taking?  Many things in the multi I learned I can't tolerate can't take a multi either. 

 

We are all a bit different... my best advice eat your vitamins in food if you can... second do not harm seek things that are safe... hot cold packs videos walks and baths... are all the very safe things. 

 

Does anyone have experience with similar side effects? And if so, did you find something that helped at all? I have found eating breakfast, drinking a lot of water and exercising have been beneficial to me. Any help is appreciated.

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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Thank you BTDT, Guided meditations have been a life saver for me. I also have started going back to the gym which has been a great for me too. I do take a lot of fish oil, but it seems to immediately relax me within 20 minutes of taking it. I drink a lot of water throughout the day too.

BTDT, I know you've had it harder than basically only one on this forum. How are your symptoms now? I know things were beyond terrible, so it'should good to hear you are able to still make it to the gym.

For Altostrata and BTDT, do most people you see recover from tinnitus? The buzzing in my head still makes it really difficult to communicate with others at work. Water, exercise, and fish oil seem to be the best help. But I want to know if this is generally a temporary or permanent condition, thank you.

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Hi PWCBS1,

I can't speak for anyone else, but I still have my tinnitus. It started 2 weeks after my too fast taper off lexapro at the end of 2010. A medium pitch ringing right in the middle of my head and I can still hear it now as I'm typing this.

 

But, it has improved a lot, either that or I've got used to it. Most of the time I don't even notice it now, only when its quiet or I think about it.

 

I also get another tone sometimes, in my right ear, much higher pitch and way more annoying. That one comes and goes, mostly these days its gone. At one point, that one was driving me insane. I think I'm stuck with the other one though.

 

But I've heard that it does go away completely for some people, after a time.

 

It would be great if you would put your drug and withdrawal history in your signature. Doing this helps people understand your context, it appears below each of your posts. Here are instructions for how to do it:

 

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Brief Summary

Several SSRIs for 13 years starting 1997 (for mild to moderate partly situational anxiety) Xanax PRN ~ Various other drugs over the years for side effects

2 month 'taper' off Lexapro 2010

Short acute withdrawal, followed by 2 -3 months of improvement then delayed protracted withdrawal

DX ADHD followed by several years of stimulants and other drugs trying to manage increasing symptoms

Failed reinstatement of Lexapro and trial of Prozac (became suicidal)

May 2013 Found SA, learned about withdrawal, stopped taking drugs...healing begins.

Protracted withdrawal, with a very sensitized nervous system, slowly recovering as time passes

Supplements which have helped: Vitamin C, Magnesium, Taurine

Bad reactions: Many supplements but mostly fish oil and Vitamin D

June 2016 - Started daily juicing, mostly vegetables and lots of greens.

Aug 2016 - Oct 2016 Best window ever, felt almost completely recovered

Oct 2016 -Symptoms returned - bad days and less bad days.

April 2018 - No windows, but significant improvement, it feels like permanent full recovery is close.

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The constant ringing stopped it comes and goes now.. for me it is a marker I have done something not good for me it could be eating a certain food...watermelon comes to mind or over doing stress. 

 

Now I have something called multiple chemical sensitivity and a movement disorder started last summer.  I am not sure what to make of it to tell you the truth.  I am told mcs is related to chronic fatigue fibromyalgia and if you read my post about chronic fatigue and prozac it says straight up I think the chronic fatigue fibro stuff started after taking prozac.  I drew the connection long ago after reading prozac cause mitochondria damage and chronic fatigue and fibro were caused by mito damage... in my case the short use of prozac was a severe adverse reaction I took it less then a month... in my mind I have not been the same since.  Now had I known what was going down... I may have said no to the next antidepressant to treat the fibro ect. I did not know anything back then and for me this story started in 89-90... so many years ago. 

 

It may well have been that given enough time in a supportive place I could have healed eventually without subjecting myself to further drugging but we will never know.  Back then I trusted doctors the internet did not exist and information on ssri drug was all favorable... Time magazine ran cover about putting proac in the drinking water as it was the best thing since sliced bread.  

 

I have had my genetic testing done at 23 and me and ran it thru the prothease program lately and learned I have a few drug metabolizing defects. I posted one of them in my thread but I have others.  I don't think so great these days and have memory problems but that has been rather consistent for me over the last 10 years since quitting effexor cold turkey.  I have had stints of clarity and I am hoping for more so I can sort out how to try to deal with the information I have gathered.  I can read science it just does not go into my brain. 

 

Give it time keep doing the things that help stay away from toxins and drugs as much as possible I think time may be the next biggy... I hope it is for your sake. 

It is a good sign that you can go to the gym and it sound like you are young both things should go in your favour. The gym is not in the cards for me I have trouble walking some days and feel lucky on days I can get around the block... which I have not done in months... I know I am ashamed to say but I can only do what my body allows now. 

 

I suggest you and everybody here get their genetics done and see what drugs will not be good for them since it can be done now for not a whole lot of money and could be a real God send the next time you need to take a pill. 

This is where the drugs can be checked once you know your genetics

http://www.mayomedicallaboratories.com/it-mmfiles/Pharmacogenomic_Associations_Tables.pdf

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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I have recognized that it is coming and going too. I agree treating my body well makes a major difference in the buzzing noise. I too had a very adverse reaction to Prozac and for some reason stayed on for 3 months. I think that is a large part of the reason I am healing so quick.

I believe if I didn't find this site and listened to my doctor, my situation would be very similar to yours by btdt. I am very sorry these drugs have had such a negative impact on your life. Survivingantidepressants has literally been a lifeline to me, and I can't thank each and all of you enough. I have finally gone sober at this point. I think toxins for example alcohol and benzos did help at times when my hypersensitivity decreased and was able to use them as a temporary crutch to feel 10-15 minutes of relief a day.

Now my nervous system can technically handle them, but hangovers come in the forms of waves and last about a week. I can say I am legitimately happy when I'm sober, which 6 months ago seemed unfathomable. I really sympathize with your situation BTDT, I've read some of your other posts and as far as all the stories I've heard, your story is probably the worst. Thank you for your help, I wish you a happy and fulfilling life.

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Thanks for the well wishes.. it is a process still... still hoping I don't give up easily if I did I would be long gone.  All that said I was rereading one of my other threads and came to this... about vitamins... 

 

"At least 50% of pharmaceuticals interfere with the absorption and excretion of essential nutrients. Among the various classes of psychiatric medications, the most renowned “depleters” of vitamins are the anticonvulsants (such as Dilantin, Depakote, Tegretol). Particularly for patients maintained on combinations of prescription drugs, clinical providers should consider the possibility of cognitive, emotional, and/or behavioral changes which may reflect inadequate tissue levels of B vitamins, vitamin D3 (e.g., 1,25-dihydroxycholecalciferol), and Co-enzyme Q10 (ubiquinone). B1 = thiamine B6 = pyridoxine B9 = folate B12 = cyanocobalamin"

 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/6109-grace-e-jackson/page-2

 

Now I don't always put much faith in what I read but this person has impressed me and I have found some of these things helped me.. I did not read this before taking B1 for instance... and I do NOT recommend taking a B complex as some could really mess your system up.  Best to find your vitamins in food but if you reach a place where you can't think... B1 could help that is one thing I notice when I don't take it my brain fails me.  It is good to find things that back up what you already know... but be warned tho she reports D3 may be depleted and needed... I can't tolerate it at all ... so act accordingly... start low one thing at a time and watch carefully.  

 

I am thinking finding out early on having a support place where you get the right information could be the best possible case scenario... short of never taking these drugs.  

 

SA has been a lifeline to many... for a lot of years there have been other sites to over the years seems they come and go I hope SA stays but who knows... 

 

We have all been where you are and understand how it is no problem there.  A time will come when your not relying on this site as much as you once did and hopefully you will stick around some and help others who are just starting out. 

peace to you

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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ProzacWasCreatedBySatan1

Thank you once again BTDT, I will make sure to write a success story as soon as I'm feeling 100%. As for an update, I have cut out all alcohol, something I picked up again when my job stress was getting out of control working for my sales hungry boss. I don't know why I picked it up honestly, with my nervous system the way it was it wasn't even enjoyable. The buzzing in my head has decreased significantly, and most of my conversations have become much more fluid. I am going to stick to healthy eating now I can tell it has a positive noticeable effect. Life has been good, something I haven't been able to say in over a year :)

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I am about a year and a half in to protracted withdrawl from Prozac, and many of my symptoms are now gone. The only part that remains is my sensitivity to any optekenetic stimulus, driving, scrolling on a computer...etc. I work from home, so I am scrolling on a computer 5 days a week. It seems like it could be setting me back, and not allowing me to improve. I'm not sure how much of this is just anxiety, and if there is any validity to this. I can live with panic attacks, especially if it means I can work from home while dealing with this. I just don't want to make myself worse. Did anyone else deal with these sensitivities at any point, and have them get better? Does anyone knowledgeable in Neuroplasticity know if I could be harming myself?

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On 11/25/2017 at 3:01 PM, ProzacWasCreatedBySatan1 said:

I am about a year and a half in to protracted withdrawl from Prozac, and many of my symptoms are now gone. The only part that remains is my sensitivity to any optekenetic stimulus, driving, scrolling on a computer...etc. I work from home, so I am scrolling on a computer 5 days a week. It seems like it could be setting me back, and not allowing me to improve. I'm not sure how much of this is just anxiety, and if there is any validity to this. I can live with panic attacks, especially if it means I can work from home while dealing with this. I just don't want to make myself worse. Did anyone else deal with these sensitivities at any point, and have them get better? Does anyone knowledgeable in Neuroplasticity know if I could be harming myself?

How are you doing with your protracted withdrawal symptoms?  I am also tapering from prozac and looking for support.

 

Alcohol periodic excessive 1963-1976, Valium sporadic 1964-1973,  Imipramine off & on 1982-1985, Fluoxetine 10mg-80 mg. Oct., 1995-Jan., 2014; Cymbalta, other ADs 1/2014-3/2014; Abilify 5 mg. 3/2014 - 8/8/17; Trintellix 20 mg. 3/2014 - 9/2017; Propranolol 60-80 mg. sporadically Sept-Oct, 2017; Seroquel few days Sept 2017 (c/t); Wellbutrin 150 mg. Sept, 2017 updosed to 300 mg. few days till c/t Oct 8, 2017, fish oil, vitD, vitE Oct 16, 2017-pres. Lipoflavonoid 4/2017-pres.  Fluoxetine 10 mg. Sept-Oct 8, 2017, 20 mg. 10/9- 10/15; 10 mg. 10/16 - 12/29;  9 mg. 12/30 - 2/9; 2 mL liquid (8.1mg) 2/10 - 3/7; 1.8 mL (7.29 mg) 3/8 -3/20; 1.6 mL (6.561mg) 3/20-4/2; 1.4 mL (5.9 mg) 4/3-4/14; 1mL (4 mg.) 4/15-4/22; .9mL (3.6mg) 4/23-5/1; .81mL (3.24 mg) 5/2-5/24; .73mL (2.916mg.) 5/25-6/8; .65mL 6/9-6/23; .6mL 6/24-7/17; .58mL 7/18-7/28; .525mL 7/29-8/13; .5 mL 8/14-21; .45mL 8/22-31; .4mL 9/2-21; .35mL 9/22-10/4; .3mL 10/5-28; .25mL 10/28-11/10; .2mL 11/11-11/24; .18mL 11/25-12/3; .1mL 12/4-12/18. Zero-12/19/18-present.

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I was wonder if SSRI an damage brain tissue?  People have taken MRI scan that come back negative , or is it mostly neurological/chemical?

Short Term Case: 7 pill of 10 mg of Modafinil in a 3 month span, but last 3 I took back to back causing severe withdrawals, lasting 3 weeks. Than 2 pills lexapro to help withdrawal lead to more withdrawal.  I have most symptoms Pssd, emotional loss, cognitive issues, nerve damage in legs.  Also 2 benzodiazepines.  Not much to damage me long term...

 

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ProzacWasCreatedBySatan1

I am starting to do quite well. I am seeing a Functional Neurologist, and he has done wonders for me. The field of medicine is very new and somewhat experimental, but I believe can help people. My story was a nightmare story though. Started with a seizure, in May of 2014 from MDMA consumption/ overhydration at a music festival. Came in to an urgent care clinic complaining of fatigue.

Adverse reaction to Antidepressant (was kept on 3 months) doctors confused why "startup effects" lasted so long. Transferred to a psychiatrist, doubled my dose. Made me go insane, then ripped off cold turkey. Put on Lamictal/ trazodone 2 weeks, things became worse. Ct'd that too (very low dose though) put on buspar/ xanax (Made things worse), put on Ritalin (became better for two weeks) then worse than ever. Then at this point I found this website, and my recovery journey began. 

I still deal with depersonalization, tension headaches, digestion issues, and neurological fatigue. Especially after prolonged work hours. But I have also had some pretty good days as of lately. My doctor confirmed that scrolling does aggravate my nervous system, because I have a bilateral spasm of accommodation in my eyes. Which is a clear sign of a neurological lesion near my brainstem. We are in the process of retraining my my eyes to track together, and hopefully eliminate some or even all of my symptoms. Which seems to be true because of the rate I am improving at.

 

Tapering is the way to go, and go as slow as possible. Do not cold turkey! I experienced a constant level of anxiety and trauma that will haunt me forever. But on a brighter note, if I can recover...anyone can. And you will make it! I plan to write my success story in the next year. Feel free to let me know if you have any other questions, and I'll do my best to answer :)

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Topic title:  Still Chipping Away at 3 years

 

I’m still getting better at 3 years, but I am very tired. Remaining symptoms (Tardive Dyskinesia- Constant, anxiety mostly social because of TD, and stabbing pain in ears). Does anyone know any success stories of people past the 5-8 year mark? I have a feeling I may be one of those people, and I need inspiration. I’m usually very positive, but today I am shameful about my past choices in life.

 

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Hey don’t be so hard on yourself. You can’t change the past, just move forward. I’m 5.5 years off and still seeing improvements.  Acceptance and Claire Weekes method has helped me so much. Look her up.  Learning to float through symptoms, rather than react has made a big difference to me. Good luck!!

Paxil 20mg from 1998-2011 

Paxil 40mg from 2011-2012 while experiencing poopout

October 2013 quit cold turkey

Oct-mid Nov 2013 great window

Late November WD nightmare 

Windows and waves pattern 

Now: 28 months cold turkey...doing decent learning to deal with the windows/waves pattern fighting it every step of the way. 

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Current from 17 Apr 2021:  Pristiq 0.2665mg  now holding each dose for 3 weeks

ADs since ~1992:  25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering Oct 2015 

My tapering program   My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)  My website

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.

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Prozac, how are you doing?

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ProzacWasCreatedBySatan1, how are you doing nowadays? Hoping the best for you.

PRN = as needed; WDR = withdrawal reaction; ADR = adverse reaction

2007: Started BC pills  2008: Prozac 0 --> 80 mg  2010: Tapered Prozac 80 --> 0 mg  2015: LSD/shrooms/MDMA once; Xanax 0.25 mg PRN; Prozac 0 --> 40 mg; Lamictal 0 --> 150 mg  2018: Tapered Prozac 40 --> 0 mg (WDR); Klonopin 0.125 mg PRN  2019: DC'd BC pills (WDR); Klonopin 0.125 mg PRN; tapered Lamictal 150 --> 35 mg (WDR); Trileptal 0 --> 4 mg   2020: Jan: one BC pill (ADR + hormonal effects); Apr-Jun: curcumin cream daily + Elidel cream PRN (ADR + hormonal effects); Oct: started melatonin 0.375 mg; Nov: acupuncture treatment (ADR + hormonal effects); Dec: tapered off melatonin 0.375 mg

2021: Jan: benzoyl peroxide cream (ADR); Feb: started probiotic; Mar: tapered off probiotic

Current medications: Lamictal 35 mg, Trileptal 4 mg 

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Hi Everyone. Just giving an update. I'm still alive. I seem to still be improving, but still have a decent amount of issues that may or may not be withdrawl related. All psychosis related symptoms are gone. Honestly the only symptoms that I currently deal with are intense pressure headaches that make me black out 5-6 times a day. I found out that didn't ever have TD, the pressure headaches just make my facial muscles scrunch. My doctor thinks that I may have lyme disease based on labwork. I'm going to see a neurologist in a month, so I will be sure to check back in again afterwards.

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I just read your story and have seen u ve been through a lot but I am happy You are recovering. I was curious about your depersonalization , how bad was it and when did u start noticing improvement? I suffer non stop severe depersonalization just following a few weeks on a low dose of Zoloft, still persisting 2 months OFF the drug. Can’t recognize my voice or my self in the mirror and feel disconnected from my own brain. How did your depersonalization manifest?

August 15,16 cipralex:went CRAZY

August 28, 2020 sertraline :25mg -3&1/2weeks,tapering 4&1/2 weeks; last dose 4mg Oct 26th

March 1st: 20-25mg 5htp/day

- DPDR/crazy/ brain disconnection/ bedridden, soul despair/feeling dead;eye floaters/ tinnitus/no appetite;inner terror/ anxiety/panic attacks;mild insomnia 

4 months OFF: pure hell, I regret not reinstaining, too late to do now?

- soul despair, anxiety/fear

- brain numb/crazy/off feeling 

- housebound, barely functioning

- stronger tinnitus

- mild eye lid twitches stopped after a week of 20-25mg 5htp.

- DPDR reduced by 50% since two months ago but no further progress

- sleep & appetite are fine

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