powerback: tapering no 2

[joy2730]

Hi Powerback

 

I agree with you entirely, I have taken myself off many meds including lithium, sodium valproate, diazepam and many others and can honestly say they never ever helped me at all. 

 

I am just in the situation of staying on a certain dose to maintain my life as it is.

 

I have read a lot of David Healey's work and I agree it is all a sham.  Other people do need to believe that it is not a sham for their own sanity and so that they can carry on trusting their doctors.  It is a lonely road when you realise there are no magic cures.

 

I regret all my years of taking meds, it has been such a waste of life, but I have suffered a lot getting off them and on to them.  I just still work at seeing all sides, I find it helps me to be less angry.

 

I reported my ill treatment to NHS England and they just white washed what I was saying. 

 

Joy

[powerback]

2 hours ago, joy2730 said:

Hi Powerback

 

I agree with you entirely, I have taken myself off many meds including lithium, sodium valproate, diazepam and many others and can honestly say they never ever helped me at all. 

 

I am just in the situation of staying on a certain dose to maintain my life as it is.

 

I have read a lot of David Healey's work and I agree it is all a sham.  Other people do need to believe that it is not a sham for their own sanity and so that they can carry on trusting their doctors.  It is a lonely road when you realise there are no magic cures.

 

I regret all my years of taking meds, it has been such a waste of life, but I have suffered a lot getting off them and on to them.  I just still work at seeing all sides, I find it helps me to be less angry.

 

I reported my ill treatment to NHS England and they just white washed what I was saying. 

 

Joy

HI joy all us members and mods are paving the new road of change .total respect to your  maintenance dose ,I'm finding I'm painfully sensitive to cuts but I'm learning a lot and I'm not as in a rush to be at zero like I was last year .

your journey and experience is invaluable albeit painful for you .

we got to sign them petitions and follow the great sites and people that advocate change .

Take care joy .

[powerback]

12 hours ago, dj2010 said:

sorry to hear you had a rough day PB, how are you feeling today? try get out on a hike if possible and clear your head

 

take care

Hi DJ ,a lot better today thanks ,my critic was raging all weekend ,very scary .I think its connected to a cold I cant shake off ,it has me  weak and tired  .

I had a job on today ,it was a long day but got it done ,I was like a snail but accepted my body is weak and let my workmate pick up the slack .

 I even had one of them intense belly laughs today ,I really enjoyed it . 

Thanks DJ .

 

[powerback]

7 hours ago, pinkfairy said:

i know where you are PB your making that tee-shirt aren’t you 😂

 

Hope your feeling a tiny bit better...

 

 

Hi pink ye the tshirt .

As I said to DJ there it was a better day by far ,ile be tired tonight  after a long day working but I took my time today .

Hope the school week got off to a good start for you and your son  today .

I couldn't sleep until nearly 1am but I watched a good documentary for distraction .

I hope you well .

 

[powerback]

 

[dj2010]

11 hours ago, powerback said:

Hi DJ ,a lot better today thanks ,my critic was raging all weekend ,very scary .I think its connected to a cold I cant shake off ,it has me  weak and tired  .

I had a job on today ,it was a long day but got it done ,I was like a snail but accepted my body is weak and let my workmate pick up the slack .

 I even had one of them intense belly laughs today ,I really enjoyed it . 

Thanks DJ .

 

only couple months now until out of the cold and flu season and the weather starts warming up, will be a relief to get through it,

 

thats great to hear, keeping self occupied and distracted from withdrawal is very important,

 

glad your feeling better,

 

take care

[peng]

"The Body Keeps the Score".

by Bessel Van der Kolk.

 I got it a few months ago.

A lot about PTSD.  Not for reading if sensitive.  Some folks have had horrific experiences most of us could not relate to.  

With respect, some on here do seem to have had equally bad experiences from childhood on.

Bless them all.

[powerback]

2 hours ago, peng said:

"The Body Keeps the Score".

by Bessel Van der Kolk.

 I got it a few months ago.

A lot about PTSD.  Not for reading if sensitive.  Some folks have had horrific experiences most of us could not relate to.  

With respect, some on here do seem to have had equally bad experiences from childhood on.

Bless them all.

Peng do I press the ignore button or do you ,because I dont appreciate your tone .no one on this site has the right to judge others experience .

If your going through hard times im sorry for you ,but stop coming to my thread and dumping these posts .

Kindly back off and ignore my thread because theres enough antaganism in the "real world".

Respect .

PB

[powerback]

6 hours ago, dj2010 said:

only couple months now until out of the cold and flu season and the weather starts warming up, will be a relief to get through it,

 

thats great to hear, keeping self occupied and distracted from withdrawal is very important,

 

glad your feeling better,

 

take care

Cant claim to have the flu DJ  but bring on spring thats for sure .

Take care 

[peng]

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Shucks, only giving details of the book an earlier poster could not remember author of.

Sorry I accidentally triggered something PB.

[powerback]

5 hours ago, peng said:

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Shucks, only giving details of the book an earlier poster could not remember author of.

Sorry I accidentally triggered something PB.

so would the name of the  author not of been enough besides the fact you also had to underline the word  do in your explaining of others on the site having bad experiences since childhood .

I wont be drawn into this again peng ,the seed was sown a while ago in our posts .

I had answered the member on her own thread about the author .

I'm afraid you haven't left much to the imagination with how you worded the post .

I wont play mind games .

ile press the ignore button myself .

We have massively different opinions that have shown up before ,I was happy to leave it at that .there's no point coming near another persons thread if there's no common ground .

Take care and respect . 

[peng]

Wow! - I cannot believe how you are adding 2 and 2 and getting 6, PB.

You are totally misinterpreting my post in the worst possible way.

Sorry, I won't bother you again.  Hope you get better soon.

[powerback]

23 minutes ago, peng said:

Wow! - I cannot believe how you are adding 2 and 2 and getting 6, PB.

You are totally misinterpreting my post in the worst possible way.

Sorry, I won't bother you again.  Hope you get better soon.

 If that be the case explain why you had to underline the word "do".

You can pm me the answer .

As I said already you didn't leave me to think anything else with that response on my thread to a member I was in conversation with.

I mean no ill what so ever peng to yourself .I'm sticking by what I think and  am judging it  as a critical reply on our previous interactions .

Respect to your recovery . 

 

[pinkfairy]

On 22/01/2018 at 7:59 PM, powerback said:

Hi pink ye the tshirt .

As I said to DJ there it was a better day by far ,ile be tired tonight  after a long day working but I took my time today .

Hope the school week got off to a good start for you and your son  today .

I couldn't sleep until nearly 1am but I watched a good documentary for distraction .

I hope you well .

 

 

Glad it went good for you  

Bad start to the week,tidal wave descended urgh!!

 

how do you copy & paste links?like from you tube 

am so knew to this lol 

xxx

[powerback]

1 hour ago, pinkfairy said:

 

Glad it went good for you  

Bad start to the week,tidal wave descended urgh!!

 

how do you copy & paste links?like from you tube 

am so knew to this lol 

xxx

Hi pink .we keep going thru hell ,just remember itl pass ,that's what i say to myself but soo hard at times .ive crushing headaches for days ,my brain is on fire for 2 days  .

when you are  in youtube go up to the top were it has the web address part ,double click this part until it is highlighted ,then right click on mouse or the right button down at the touch pad on laptop ,this will bring up a caption with options,click on copy ,then go out of youtube and into were ever you want to put the video up and right click again and paste will come up ,click that and it will appear .

 

I hope I explained it ok .I'm no wiz myself ,youl be fine .

 

If I haven't explained it clear enough go into youtube and type how to copy and paste . 

Take care pink .

[SkyBlue]

On 1/22/2018 at 1:52 PM, powerback said:

 

 I even had one of them intense belly laughs today ,I really enjoyed it . 

Thanks DJ .

 

 

That is great!

[powerback]

6 hours ago, SkyBlue said:

 

That is great!

Ye SB it was brief but enjoyed .

[SkyBlue]

[powerback]

I wonder is there any validity to this video .one for the mods and members  .

Thanks in advance .

[powerback]

http://www.martincwiner.com/effexor-venlafaxine-is-a-narcotic/

This is web address from the end of the video .

[dj2010]

10 hours ago, powerback said:

I wonder is there any validity to this video .one for the mods and members  .

Thanks in advance .

interesting video PB, the withdrawals are certainly worse than any opioids! I don't believe for 1 second that doctors and psychiatrists don't know how devastating this drug is

[joy2730]

Thank you for posting about the opiode narcotic aspect of ADS. 

 

When I took venlafaxine and mirtazepine I did feel.they were different from the cital opram I am stuck on now.

 

I once licked a spoon of a clients oral morphine by mistake and it was the same floating I got when on mirtazepine

 

Heroin was originally used as an antidepressant.

 

Joy

 

[powerback]

1 hour ago, joy2730 said:

Thank you for posting about the opiode narcotic aspect of ADS. 

 

When I took venlafaxine and mirtazepine I did feel.they were different from the cital opram I am stuck on now.

 

I once licked a spoon of a clients oral morphine by mistake and it was the same floating I got when on mirtazepine

 

Heroin was originally used as an antidepressant.

 

Joy

 

Your welcome joy,oh wow did ye ,im terified what my brain is like on this drug ,I wonder do I need a bridge off this drug,is there anyone out there I wonder thats got off it ,I have cold Turkey symptoms still on it ,do most people use a benzo to come off these drugs .

I cant function in society like this .

Take care joy

 

[powerback]

Is anyone aware high doses of vitamin c to adversely affect the body  in withdrawl .I cant tell myself, for weeks I was taking high doses to ward off the flu because I now don't get the flu jab after years of being told I needed  it  by the human robotic prescription machines ,seriously did you ever hear the noise of that machine while siting outside to go in for an appointment,its constant  .

[powerback]

5 hours ago, joy2730 said:

Thank you for posting about the opiode narcotic aspect of ADS. 

 

When I took venlafaxine and mirtazepine I did feel.they were different from the cital opram I am stuck on now.

 

I once licked a spoon of a clients oral morphine by mistake and it was the same floating I got when on mirtazepine

 

Heroin was originally used as an antidepressant.

 

Joy

 

Check out the website joy ,its much more detailed on it .

[joy2730]

I think high doses of any vitamin can be dangerous if taken for a prolonged period.

 

Vitamins are apparently more effective if you get them.from food.

 

I spent years taking multivitamins plus iron and when I stopped taking them as an experiment I felt better.

 

I hated venlafaxine and was cold turkeyed by a psychiatrist and I was a total mess for months.  I will never take it again.

 

Joy

 

[powerback]

Just now, joy2730 said:

I think high doses of any vitamin can be dangerous if taken for a prolonged period.

 

Vitamins are apparently more effective if you get them.from food.

 

I spent years taking multivitamins plus iron and when I stopped taking them as an experiment I felt better.

 

I hated venlafaxine and was cold turkeyed by a psychiatrist and I was a total mess for months.  I will never take it again.

 

Joy

 

Thanks joy for your reply ,really ile be careful in future ,I can never tell what irritates  my system .I watched a seminar about vitiman c ,it all sounded good ,but thr withdrawl factor adds to it . the doctor recommended a powder called "sufficient c .its not cheap .

Oh no don't take it again ,why would you .I just wish I had the back to the future car

Take care .  

[powerback]

Who's got the wave machine key ,please make it stop ,japers like please .what's  with these headaches .

This can not continue while tapering ,I'm on a hold for months .

this is as far from the mods advice as you'll get on here but I need off this drug  quick ,this drug is paradoxical and its ripping me apart ,I'm scared what ile do . 

Sorry for triggers I just want to note today .could be the worst day I've had .this day week I'm going on a little break and I just pray I'm ok for it because if I'm like this I cant ,breathe man breathe . 

 

[powerback]

Ok so I'm coming down from that extreme episode ,I can actually feel it in my system ,in the last hour ive gone from oh sh*t I wont even be able to do dins to coming down and hey were are  the mushrooms lets start dinner .the mind boggles . it actually feels something like a bad trip and I'm coming out of it .

[Rosetta]

Hi Powerback

 

Thanks for your comment about my post on someone else's thread.  I'm glad to see that your strange feelings have subsided.  I really don't know what the leaders of the pharmaceutical companies are "thinking" except about $$$$$.  It's bizarre.  It's very much like the cigarette fiasco, but much worse.  I did have to laugh when I thought about how one determines whether a mouse is responding to an anti-depressant.  (I don't want to know, actually, as I suspect it would depress me.)

 

Peace,

Rosetta

[powerback]

1 hour ago, Rosetta said:

Hi Powerback

 

Thanks for your comment about my post on someone else's thread.  I'm glad to see that your strange feelings have subsided.  I really don't know what the leaders of the pharmaceutical companies are "thinking" except about $$$$$.  It's bizarre.  It's very much like the cigarette fiasco, but much worse.  I did have to laugh when I thought about how one determines whether a mouse is responding to an anti-depressant.  (I don't want to know, actually, as I suspect it would depress me.)

 

Peace,

Rosetta

Hi Rosetta your welcome ,thanks for popping to my thread .Its the human condition  these company's are up there with the Bernard  Madoffs   of the world .there just the same as government lobbyists with doctors also .George Orwell had it so correct a long time ago .now don't get me wrong I'm no Debby downer but we were forced to look at the reality .we can only hope to save future generations .

Be safe . 

[powerback]

I'm siting here awake 2 hours wondering why the connection between my extreme noise sensitivity is intertwined with me having such a bad mood ,I do everything not to snap ,a drawer being closed near me  or a books pages turning is painful and impossible to like .Anyone got a spare cave I can borrow .why do I have the urge to put my head through the wall .sorry for triggers .

Maybe if this virus ever leaves my system it will get better .what's with the burning brain lately also .

 

[miT]

Don't snap PB. Face it, feel it, accept it. Your CNS will switch mode soon. Practice your coping techniques. It's all we have in the waves.

[powerback]

I  need to note that the this is the strongest overwhelming feeling ive ever had in my chest/heart ,its actually physical ,I'm trembling a little and the only thing I can compare it to is grief,i am not  totally afraid of it .its obviously the process when you make the decision to stop adding meds to a meds problem.

Had a little walk and back at home lying on the bed with curtains pulled ,my body feels this is what's best today .    

[powerback]

16 minutes ago, miT said:

Don't snap PB. Face it, feel it, accept it. Your CNS will switch mode soon. Practice your coping techniques. It's all we have in the waves.

Thanks miT .your so kind ,you always pop up and pick me up out of the trenches when needed .your so correct ,its all we have .

[pinkfairy]

Oh Pb am in that deep grief too..

 

your not alone my friend.Xx

 

hey I made some soup yesterday 

butter nut squash,lentils,celery,onions,garlic,carrots & veg stock it was lovely.So thank you for the ideas of soups.

 

Hope it passes soon Pb 

xxx